Gay Mafia II: RIDE THE LIGHTNING (Game Over)

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VOTE: Pretentiousdra

Ugh.

KILL IT WITH FIRE

VOTE: Pretentiousdra

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HEY

HEY YOU

YEAH YOU NACHO AND MATT

SUP

Vote:Nobody Special

SCUM DETECTED

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Dear scumbags,

We're lynching Pretentioudra before that monstrosity even posts.

Gammagooey is scum. If Gammagooey is on your team, sit tight. If Gammagooey isn't on your team, and you're ready for a X-kill, you know where to shoot.

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VOTE: quilford

hey babe what's up xx
txt me

Please do not post unless it's to vote Pretentiousdra.

That goes for everybody.

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VOTE: slumberpartybois

Matt hasn't called me scum yet? that can only mean one thing

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT

WRONG!

We're lynching

pretentiousdra

.

Please get on with programme.

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Why is Pretentiousdra "town"

I see nothing more than scumspam.

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I'm willing to lynch any of the below to make the game readable and analyzable:

SlumberPartyBois

66

Quilford

47

Om of the Nom

44

Ythan

33

Drench

27

Pretentiousdra

27

Kawaii

26

TheTrollie

25

Nachomamma8

22

[DrippingGoofball]

Can we kill this monstrosity?

Pretentiousdra

95

Ythan

90

Om of the Nom

83

SlumberPartyBois

71

Or you can kill

me

. Either works. Day, night, whenever.

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Wyrd is town.

Now, serious proposition.

Let's lynch a pain-in-the-ass spammer today. There are four to choose from. Chances are good one of them will be scum - hopefully we'll pick the right one.

Some of the spammers will die at night, if we're lucky - I wouldn't count on scum X-kills because there's nothing that scum loves more than to be inconspicuous is a sea of spam. Paradoxically, this is not inconsistent with the spammers being scum, since they obviously have no self-control.

The onus is on us to get rid of them during the day and hope we hit scum.

Once they're dead, we can actually have a game that moves at a reasonable pace and have more intelligent arguments (including ragecaps) instead of page upon page of witless one-liners.

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This game has 850 posts.

Pretentiousdra 99
Ythan 99
Om of the Nom 90
SlumberPartyBois 77

Together, these 4 players have 365/850 posts, or 42% of all posts.

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Om of the Nom is actually making the most effort at making posts with some intelligence instead of shitting the game, so I give him a pass.

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I have a town read on Wyrd/Fate, so that's that.

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The crap that p-dra does is nothing more than fill the game with useless posts that make little to no sense. The MOST annoying part is the fact that all of the useful stuff that he HAS said are, in fact, pro-town.

And what exactly, in that haystack, do you consider pro-town? What are your criteria to evaluate the alignment of a 3-headed spamming hydra with unsigned posts?

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chesskid, the thread's barely been open a full day, come off it


zoidberg, I'm gonna overlook your smartass post, but if you keep it up, you're gonna be in for a storm warning

I don't claim to be able to read fate after three fucking posts, nor should anyone with half a brain. I pride myself on being able to read DGB, btw, and I don't have a read on her because she's not fucking posting. I'm not willing to lynch her either.

My massive erection for fate? Oh, excuse me if I'm not willing to lynch a fucking null-read on day 1.

Zoid, consider this post your official Storm Warning.

OMG GUYS HE GAVE ME A STORM WARNING. I AM SO FUCKING SCARED RIGHT NOW.

kuribo is town, and Zoidberg may in fact be scum. His allcaps response to kuribo sounds like nervous bravado. You know. The kind of bravado when you've been caught.

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I'm out for the day while I calm the fuck down.

Yet this sounds townie.

Mmmmmmmmmmm

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I think Kawaii may be scum. He's all over the place with his vote, his suspicions appear both nebulous and opportunistic, his Fate-rivalry isn't as intense as it should be.

I think Nacho's i-wanna-hammer crumbs are SUPER THIRD PARTY. How 'bout that.

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I knew Wyrd was town. Wyrd is the towniest player in here.

In light of what has been revealed, my Kawaii-may-be-scum have been upgraded to Kawaii-is-scum.

Further, Pretentiousdra is likely scum, its actions appear

solidly

anti-town, and must die. I can't be bothered to re-read this spamfest, but whoever defended Pretentiousdra has greater than average likelihood of being scum.

Nacho looks like he has an alternative wincon that needs to be satisfied by hammering, so I doubt he has a NK.

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Who has defended Pretentiousdra?

There be the scum in there. My hunch is that Pretentiousdra was called "townie" by some elements way before there was any evidence in favor of such, and the reads were not justified in any way.

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How? Quilford claimed he'd done something for X reason. X reason did not appear to make sense. So I questioned him about it.

Yes, it didn't end up being a smoking gun, but that doesn't mean it was "silly" - nor does it mean I was "trying too hard" (hint: "The Interrogator" is my title for a reason)

It was dragged out far too long for how little sense it made as a push.

Time-wise, it lasted 45 minutes.

If you want to talk about things that don't make sense lasting too long, maybe try looking at the first 15 pages of this game.

More constructively:

- Quilford's 343 contained two relevant points:
1) Impliedly, that the p-dra wagon had a risk of going to lynch; and
2) Expressly, that Quilford had decided p-dra was town.

- 1) above was plainly false and 2) was unexplained

- In 350, quilford then added that the reason for the unvote was to "free" his vote. This doesn't make sense because, like I said, you're just as free to move your vote to a player when you are voting somebody else as you are when you are not voting anybody
- 355: I respond to Quilford's argument that the wagon was getting high (It wasn't)
- 361 is just me clarifying the same point about "freeing" (which Quilford argued was being too technical)
- 369: he explained at least the fact that he was compiling the list, so I ended pursuit there.

Here's something I was looking for.

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TOWNZ

24. DrippingGoofball
08. Wyrd (Nuwen/Fate hydra)
18. Om of the Nom
03. kuribo for post 330
09. dramonic

LEANING TOWNZ

17. vollkan - a little too IIoA to be in above category by spamfest IS a put off so I sympathize.

PURGATORIEZ

01. Nobody Special
02. DeltaWave
04. Iecerint
05. zoraster
06. Slumberpartybois (MattP/kanyeknowsbest hydra)
07. whispersilk
10. One Direction (Faraday/Empire hydra)
11. Gammagooey
13. Ythan
15. ThunderHog
20. JacobSavage
22. BT
23. TheTrollie
25. Drench

ALTERNATE WINCON

12. Nachomamma8

LEANING SCUMZ

14. Zoidberg - announcing that he's walking away is a townie move but rest is bad.

SCUMZ

16. Quilford - no read on vollkan or kuribo??? Too lynch-happy. Defended P-dra for nothing.
21. Pretentiousdra (chesskid/Ellibereth/Action Dan hydra)
19. Kawaii (Kise/Katsuki hydra)

If the spammers exercise some self-control I may be able to separate the giant blob of names in the middle without reads.

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@ Wyrd - can you elaborate on your take of Faraday/Empire/One-Direction?

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unvote vote wyrd

This vote is a sheepscum vote.

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BT looks town as well.

So we have 2 shitwagons.

BT - 6 (

Pretentiousdra

,

One Direction

, ThunderHog, dramonic, Zoidberg,

Kawaii

)
Wyrd - 8 (Slumberpartybois,

Kawaii

,

Pretentiousdra

, zoraster, Gammagooey, Nobody Special,

One Direction

, Quilford)

Two of my scumreads are on both shitwagons.

I'll trust Wyrd re:Faraday, and I agree that Ythan is sketch. Will be moving to leaning scum for now.

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DGB masterlist is ready.

TOWNZ

24. DrippingGoofball
08. Wyrd (Nuwen/Fate hydra)
18. Om of the Nom
03. kuribo for post 330
22. BT

LEANING TOWNZ

17. vollkan
10. One Direction (Faraday/Empire hydra)
09. dramonic
11. Gammagooey
23. TheTrollie

PURGATORIEZ

02. DeltaWave - acting strange
04. Iecerint - moar posts plz
07. whispersilk - flake
20. JacobSavage - post content plz

ALTERNATE WINCON

12. Nachomamma8 - hammer-related wincon
01. Nobody Special - really depressing bastard-mod wincon

LEANING SCUMZ

14. Zoidberg
13. Ythan
06. Slumberpartybois (MattP/kanyeknowsbest hydra)
05. zoraster - few posts, tone is disappointed-to-get-scum-role-PM
15. ThunderHog - isn't scum with P-dra, too much emphasis to explain why he might come off as "careful."
25. Drench - throwing random shit in hopes some will stick

SCUMZ

16. Quilford - no read on vollkan or kuribo??? Too lynch-happy. Defended P-dra for nothing.
21. Pretentiousdra (chesskid/Ellibereth/Action Dan hydra)
19. Kawaii (Kise/Katsuki hydra)

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Well we wern't planning on outing the hydra QT JUST YET but well scumFate decided he'd out it first to try and get the jump on us so.

I'm sorry but this sounds like complete BS.

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Well we wern't planning on outing the hydra QT JUST YET but well scumFate decided he'd out it first to try and get the jump on us so.

I'm sorry but this sounds like complete BS.

I'm sorry but everything you've posted thus far this game is like complete BS.

Why don't you explain this? Take everything I posted in the game, and please expose how it's BS.

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NO U FIRST!

I'm curious as to what you can say about #960. Hydra conspiracy maybay?

Well you know I raised someone from birth to adulthood, and it's given me invaluable insights into the way people lie. Your lie is at the 5 yr-old level.

"Well we wern't planning on outing the hydra QT JUST YET but well scumFate decided he'd out it first to try and get the jump on us so."

Translation:

"Well we wern't planning on confessing that Timmy has been voluntarily handing us his lunch money JUST YET but well scumTimmy decided he'd out it first to try and get the jump on us so."

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And another thing, I sense a textbook case of:

"I'd like to know

just how it is

that DGB caught us for the 'wrong reason' again"

Aren't you glad I've explained it to you so you don't slip up again next game. Don't worry; you'll make another mistake.

[DrippingGoofball]

Spoiler: a history of my unvotes without revotes, dedicated to: kuribo (warning: quote wall inside)

UNVOTE:

Subject: Micro 17 - Delayed Mafia - {Game Over!}

Okay you know what maybe I should sleep on this.

UNVOTE:

UNVOTE: because DeasWave isn't scum anymore.

Subject: Micro 17 - Delayed Mafia - {Game Over!}

UNVOTE:

Subject: Micro 17 - Delayed Mafia - {Game Over!}

UNVOTE:

Subject: Open 435: Great Idea Mafia (Day 4)

You know, while I want yellowbounder dead, I'm not sure I find him all that scummy.

UNVOTE:

Will do more stuff this weekend.

Subject: Otters vs. Tigers vs. Sharks - GAME OVER

UNVOTE: RedCoyote

Subject: Mini 1319: Divided Germany Mafia (Ende)

UNVOTE:

Subject: Animal Rescue: petsPick (Game Over!)

UNVOTE:

Subject: Open 328: Mad Social Science (2of4) (Game Over, Town wins)

Actually, I dunno.

UNVOTE:

Subject: Open 326: Pick Your Poison (Ende des Speils!)

UNVOTE:

Subject: Open 328: Mad Social Science (2of4) (Game Over, Town wins)

UNVOTE:

Same problem with VitR re: townreads.

Subject: Newbie 1135 - Game Over! Town Wins!

Again, it's not necessarily the case. It's just reasoning that supports the existence of a doctor or jailkeeper.

Actually.

I can see Rhinox's reactions as potentially coming from a power role.

UNVOTE:

Subject: Double-Dip Mafia, Game Over

UNVOTE:

Subject: Open 324 - Ninja Mafia (End. No Drama, please!)

UNVOTE:

Rereadinggggg

Subject: Double-Dip Mafia, Game Over

DGB, link me to a game where you have raged at the town like this when you were town.

Crazy's case is stupid and I don't have the patience to explain why.

UNVOTE:
UNVOTE:

Subject: Bowser's Revenge! 5p Vengeful -[LOSE]-

NS

WHAT

SLIP

UNVOTE:

Subject: Newbie #1118 (Game Over!)

Sigh.
UNVOTE: sanchocolates / The Tick

Subject: Anybody Awake? mafia - 5p vengeful. (GAME OVER. Mafia win.)

UNVOTE:

Subject: OPEN 310 - Medical Mafia - TOWN WIN

UNVOTE:
Conflicting reads on Tim.

Subject: Mini1147-Royal Mafia at the Round Table (Game Over!)

UNVOTE:

Reconsidering Twistedspoon.

Subject: Mini1147-Royal Mafia at the Round Table (Game Over!)

UNVOTE: Farside

ugh

Subject: Newbie 1103: Just Another Chaotic Town (Game Over)

Forgot.

UNVOTE: FireStorm

again more stuff later sorry for triple posting etc etc

Subject: Open 301: Friends and Enemies and Enemies: Over. Town Win.

I'm pretty sure after I said Empking was 'goodposting' waaaaaay back when, and Meransiel called it 'buddying', he instantly tried to distance from me. I'm also pretty sure he's been sheeping almost all game. Plus Mask's reactions have made me unsure about voting him.

UNVOTE:

Subject: Mini1147-Royal Mafia at the Round Table (Game Over!)

UNVOTE:
I now want a Maxous or LL lynch more than I do a farside lynch.

Subject: Newbie 1088 :: Game Over!

k

although we have massively different playstyles and opinions on the game, jedi's town

UNVOTE:

Subject: Mini1147-Royal Mafia at the Round Table (Game Over!)

D:

3 is a really, really good point

UNVOTE:

We're past that, you're scum for other reasons.

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How? Quilford claimed he'd done something for X reason. X reason did not appear to make sense. So I questioned him about it.

Yes, it didn't end up being a smoking gun, but that doesn't mean it was "silly" - nor does it mean I was "trying too hard" (hint: "The Interrogator" is my title for a reason)

It was dragged out far too long for how little sense it made as a push.

Time-wise, it lasted 45 minutes.

If you want to talk about things that don't make sense lasting too long, maybe try looking at the first 15 pages of this game.

More constructively:

- Quilford's 343 contained two relevant points:
1) Impliedly, that the p-dra wagon had a risk of going to lynch; and
2) Expressly, that Quilford had decided p-dra was town.

- 1) above was plainly false and 2) was unexplained

- In 350, quilford then added that the reason for the unvote was to "free" his vote. This doesn't make sense because, like I said, you're just as free to move your vote to a player when you are voting somebody else as you are when you are not voting anybody
- 355: I respond to Quilford's argument that the wagon was getting high (It wasn't)
- 361 is just me clarifying the same point about "freeing" (which Quilford argued was being too technical)
- 369: he explained at least the fact that he was compiling the list, so I ended pursuit there.

Here's something I was looking for.

This answers one of your questions Quilford.

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VOTE: Pretentiousdra

Ugh.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Drench
sorry babe :'( xx

VOTE: Wyrd

UNVOTE:

have at it kuribo and vollkan; with 40 pages i don't even know who to place a vote on

First you vote the P-dra for lulz, then you unvote the thing because you find it "townie" without explanation, then for some reason you're on Drench and then you sheep the crowd on Wyrd... no explanation. Then unvote? It's all very sketch.

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@Everyone on the Wyrd wagon: Who would you go after tomorrow if Wyrd got lynched today and flipped town? What if he flipped scum?

Let's not give the scum a roadmap to the most productive NK.

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because we were developing reads and wanted to be able to fish for reactions without it being public knowledge that we were working as a bloc.

I can't see townies agreeing to do this... I bet there are a lot of scum in the QT. Om is being facetious (I think), but he might not be all that far from the truth. Maybe some townies will be swayed by the will of a majority, but that does sound a lot more than a scum plan than a townie plan.

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The whole idea of a secret hydra voting block, unbeknownst to the rest of the players... that's not townie think.

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kill her plz plz plz

I find this reaction interesting. Only after I suggested that the hydra-gang might be composed of a sizable number of scumbags does "One Direction" finally give a "read" on me... in the form of "kill her plz." OMGUS much?

@Wyrd > One-direction doesn't look town to me, regardless of the shenanigans in the QT.

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Yes that was facetious but still somewhat true, there has to be at least one scum in the hydras, if not two. Otherwise it would be completely unbalanced. The scum is definitely not Wyrd, and it's most likely Kawaii. OD actually wouldn't be a bad choice for scum either.

fyi this isnt how neighborhoods work.

If I understand correctly this "neighborhood" is truly random (except the hydra membership requirement) across alignments, and we cannot make assumptions of balance.

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'OMGUS much' a thing said by an actual player outside of the newbie queue in this game

ad hom,

now?

[DrippingGoofball]

AM I VERY SURE of this one.

VOTE: One Direction

[DrippingGoofball]

You

are

scum. Butthurt caught-scum 'for the wrong reason.'

Now try to convince the rest of the players that you're not, and good luck.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, don't be ridiculous, there's no way we're getting them lynched D1.

Scum is scum, I don't care what Day it is. If find him extraordinarily obvious. If you agree he's scum, vote him.

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DGB is this the very earliest start of your OD scumread?

It is, until then I had a null read and based on faith on Wyrd's report of the multi-hydra QT, put One Direction in the leaning town list.

I didn't vote until the butthurt-caught-for-the-wrong-reasons became overwhelming, and he's cementing this with every subsequent post.

[DrippingGoofball]

mhmhrkmsoiurahtgr'u

I WILL NOT accept a Faraday+Chesskid team


Katsuki is the middle ground here, lets kill the fuck out of him

Unvote:
Vote: Kawaii

P-dra and Kawaii

will

die.

Let's do One-Direction today. I'm 100% on this. I'm rarely this certain. Have faith in my legendary scumdar.

[DrippingGoofball]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the ONLY thing that gives me pause is that it was FARADAY who proposed the "fakeclaim to get fate quicklynched" gambit and I don't think he'd so something that anti-town as town.

Faraday

would

do that. It's null, though. The recent in-thread behavior is total scum.

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Quick question for you, DGB.

Why have you spent such a large portion of this game whining about spam posting when you once posted 258 times in a single game (1/6th of the entire thread)?

(This is actually Empire.)

My frequent posting is quality posting. I caught most of the scum, who made the mistake of leaving me alive after they failed on night 1 on account of a doc-protect. There was a day where I voted three different players, all three were scum.

Om is frequent posting but a lot of it has insight.

Ythan's posting is complete trash, P-dra is just chest-beating.

I hope this answers your scumtastic question to your scumtisfaction.

[DrippingGoofball]

do you really think Faraday scum will make it to endgame though?

trust

me on this DGB

Especially if he's scum, that's the thing.

[DrippingGoofball]

do you really think Faraday scum will make it to endgame though?

trust

me on this DGB

Also, there is no substitute for a good old-fashioned scumlynch.

Why the defeatist attitude?

[DrippingGoofball]

Because it's impossible to lynch Faraday day 1 <_<

It is if no one will vote Scumaday for this stupid reason. Just vote him ans see what happens.

[DrippingGoofball]

But DGB Action Dan just made a craptastic scum post in the QT, like "Lol is he still trying to retroactively justify this fate scumread" levels of bad

Katsuki is the surefire lynch here

I don't get this. Action Dan is with that hydra again?

[DrippingGoofball]

@ Wyrd

Come on, grow some balls. Dram just voted for the scum, you can do it too.

[DrippingGoofball]

Pretentiousdra

P-dra is likely scum, but I'm more sure of Faradirectionpirescumdra on account of the thick stench of 'caught-wrong-reason' squirming. It's truly overwhelming.

For some reason, though we tried, we were unable to get a claim out of P-dra since the wagon chickened out, something that made me very sad.

[DrippingGoofball]

Argh fine
VOTE: One Erection

HUZZAH!

[DrippingGoofball]

Delta explain Om scumread.

Attempt to derail One Erection wagon DETECTED.

[DrippingGoofball]

So this is bullshit for a few reasons. 1) You are reacted to his vote on you by discrediting him immediately even though you have later admitted that he was caught for the wrong reasons. Ergo, that your initial reason he was scum was not correct. 2) We all have a scum read on you in the QT (besides Wyrd who hasn't said jack about anyone other than us/Kawaii being scum).

I think you misunderstand "caught for the wrong reasons." That's not my perspective, that's the scum's perspective. They're under the impression that they're playing swimmingly and all the little creatures are eating from their hand. Then suddenly, out of the clear blue sky, I turn on them.

I know I caught them for the

right

reason. But because they don't exactly get what it is that tipped me off into a lynch-rage, they feel that they shouldn't have gotten caught, and they're all butthurt about it.

If you have this powerful voting block that all seems to think I'm scum except Wyrd, why aren't you trying to lynch me?

There is a reason. That's because you don't have to go head-to-head against during the daytime, since you can NK me.

See, I can't kill One Erection at night, so I have to pursue it in the daytime and try to persuade players.

[DrippingGoofball]

There was a welcome pause in the spamming that gave me a chance to get a handle on the game, so that I can start spamming myself.

What's the matter Ythan? Did I catch your buddy?

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB what's the case, I want to believe. Is it just "he's mad I said he's scum for the wrong reason".

Are you asking for the long explanation instead of the standard DGB shorthand? If you say 'yes' I will deliver.

[DrippingGoofball]

@ Ythan re: One Direction

Isos 1-23 are pretty much useless trash talk of absolutely no value and the BT vote is worthless. That's kinda null for Faraday, and it hadn't drawn my attention in the sea of spam.

Post 24 is a defense of P-drascum. In light of the QT's existence, he might have been motivated to exploit the special bond between the hydras and nurture it.

Posts 25-54 are more trash. I hadn't iso'd OneDirection since Wyrd had vouched for them, but I would rate this whole spamfest as null-to-scum. I certainly have no rationale to put it in the townie column, but nothing that really stands out as totally scummy.

Of course I'm more aware of every word I write and how people react to me. After I made a few posts suggesting that the polyhydraQT was behaving in a rather anti-town way and might contain more scum than mere chance would suggest, OD, who until them had ignored me completely, decides to vote me. Therefore, my suspicion of the polyhydra entities, which is the first strong suspicion in the game made against the collective, caused OD to react with a vote against the attacker.

After I point out that this reaction is super-scummy, OD switches to adhom attack. He says I talk like a newbie game player, then answers to one of my posts with a bunch of question marks, then the next post is "lmao"... then I should "pay more attention", then he browbeats me TWICE to answer Ythan's question by repeating it (I was answering it, I was ninja's about 12 times), then accuses me of spamming "Ladies' Night" - a game where I was totally awesome - responds to my arguments with "this is BS." Then more adhom "can you not read."

Then he pushes weakly that I have inside multiball info (hey, I play large themes mostly, they're nearly always multi-ball) and calls it null??? It could be because he realizes he needs to look more reasonable to the other player if he wants to pass for town.

One DIrection is reacting like a big baby having a big old temper tantrum because his hand was caught in a cookie jar. He's going from frustrated to lashing out to pretend-lackadaisical to fake laughter to adhom to tail-between-legs. That fast rotation of emotions is from scum.

That's because he feels he was playing a great game and I ruined his stride by catching him. Now he's stomping his little feet.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, I'm not voting you because I think Fate is scum and there is more utility in getting rid of him in the QT so the rest of us can coordinate our roles. If it's impossible to lynch him I'll be voting you.

You're going to have to explain this better, I can hardly wrap my head around how enormously scummy this is on several levels.

(Longhand for Ythan)

Spoiler:

there is more utility in getting rid of Fate in the QT so the rest of us can coordinate our roles

I have to wonder, why on Earth are they coordinating roles in the hydra QT? If I were a townie in that hydra QT, I'd worry they're scum, and I sure wouldn't want to share my role... my role is my hidden card until I'm at L-1, right? So maybe Fate/Wyrd is the townie that is getting in the way of the scumhydras being able to exploit some of the towniehydras in the QT. It's definitely not a town motivation to want to be rid of a player in a neighborhood because he mind get in the way of role coordination.

The "I think Fate is scum" is not really supported by any credible arguments or evidence, so it's pretty weak.

Now, the other part is that he's saying he's not voting me because he hopes to lynch Fate, which isn't happening, and since it won't happen, he has a reason to vote me, even though he hasn't said anything about me being scummy? Where's his case against me? Is he wanting to vote me because I'm suspicious of him? Suspicious of One Direction? NOT suspicious of Fate? All three?

None of this makes sense, and if there is one thing I learned is that players that don't make sense are more often scum than town.

[DrippingGoofball]

I find plenty of their posts in 1-23 legit. Point on 24 could just as easily not be true, it's just an interpretation. Again, I do see useful posts in 25-54.

I don't find it legit. To me, it appears rudderless and not terribly useful, and I'm not seeing any towntells in it. Not seeing towntells doesn't mean scum, but I'm usually pretty good at picking out towntells so if they were there I expect I would find them. I do realize that these posts were made within the context of some pretty bad spamming, so I really can't positively categorize them as scum.

But then I take the lack of towntells during the spamfest together with his most recent reactions and I get total scum guarantee.

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unvote vote Zoidberg

I missed you.

See, that's the sort of thing that gets you a sweet, sweet spot in my scum category. Why Zoid, why now, are you derailing? Did I catch your buddy? Were you hoping I'd trip on my shoelaces and I disappointed you?

[DrippingGoofball]

Iecerint, please vote.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB: Kawaii vs. OneDirection vs. CHESSKIDhydra -- Why is OneDirection the (top) scum?

They are all really scummy and on my scum shortlist, you're asking me to find the most rotten apple out of three rotten apples. All of them need to die and soon.

None of these player slots are trying to figure out other player's alignments. They're sheeping, making unsubstantiated declarations, throwing their collective hydraweight around. There is zero evidence that they are trying to solve a puzzle, the way YOU are, Iecerint 9BTW you're town).

OneDirection tops the list because I give a lot of credence to his reaction to my pushing for his lynch as a scum reaction. My strength is my ability to read emotions. I'm reading that OneDirection is facepalming and stomping his feet at being caught, followed by trying to ooze out of it by declaring my multiball assumptions "null."

Again on reading emotions I sense that P-dra is trying to dominate the game, but NOT with an anti-town agenda, gleefully thinking he can get away with it and wielding the polyhydraQT power in secret. He knows that I can be overwhelming, but I'm town, so though I've been after him relentlessly, he has worked hard to ignore me in particular. So he's scum, too.

Kawaii is scum because of post #960 #967 #969 #970 with my response here. It's more baby-lah-lah boo hoo I've been caught for the wrong reasons.

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OD. DGB's explaining her read on you to me, could you do the same for your read on her? I read your initial vote as a hatevote but then you said you were calling her scum (which I didn't actually see).

What do you mean by hate vote? Hated her post or her playerslot in general and what she was doing.

You don't even know whether you hated my post or my playerslot in general, yet you never even mentioned me until I attacked the Hydra Collective QT as being full of scum.

There is NO WAY, NO THEORY under which OneDirection is town, and he's totally scum through and through.

================

Now people, we know that the Hydra scumbags won't vote OneDirection because they're cultivating their voting block.

Just like they made the righteous P-dra wagon melt away, they're trying to stop the OneDirection wagon from happening.

They can't push us around. We can do this. Let's lynch OneDIrection.

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Actually DGB we're paying you no attention because early game you decided it would be funny to not provide any content and attempt to form a wagon on us on the basis that we all hate [removeds].

And then you started bitching about people who post a lot, and we decided we really didn't care what you had to say at all, that this is exactly your scum meta of being useless as fuck until later in the game, when you come in with shit reads (oh hey we're at that part already!)

So yeah. SUP NIGGUH

I'll let the other players be a judge of this post. I don't think it needs explaining.

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There was no "slip" and Kats was sticking to the fake that he slipped plan at that point in town, which is obviously not going to work now.

So Kats was really that desperate to get Fate out of the way on Day 1 that he faked the existence of a scumslip to do it?
Wow, I just lost any chance of ever trusting him in this game.

can you replace out so someone with a double-digit iq can play this game thanks

Someone is sore at getting caught.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm just gonna do this now

Unvote, Vote: Thunderhog

if wyrd can get more votes and nuwen hasn't shown up yet then i'll probably hop back on

You're wasting everyone's time with a shitvote.

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@Gamma, you know what I mean. Signal:noise here means I'm going to be hearing about important points through Fate's eyes until weeeeekend. You can, you know, give me something worth looking into because I really don't want to pour over thirteen hundred posts for pings. The town NEEDS to help each other stay focused and on-target, otherwise it'll end up cannibalizing itself a'la DGB's lynch priorities.

I brought you guys a fruit basket.

http://gleigh.net/scum/gay-mafia-2-QT.htm

Huzzah, yes.

I see where you're coming from, there is a clear dichotomy between OD-in-thread and OD-in-QT. But then again, he's more invested in the secret QT, and puts more thoughts there, than in the thread, which is very odd. At times he even sounds townie among friends and under no threat but that conflicts sharply with his reactions when challenged and under stress. Still scum.

P-dra is total scum, in-thread and in-QT. The QT makes him look even worse. There's a lot of waa-waa-waa-DGB-hates-meeeeee so he's caught before he even posts, so he's really butthurt about that.

Kawaii is just mean. He's not playing to find scum. He's just mean.

SlumberParty & Wyrd are the two legit entities in that QT.

Strategically, I think Either P-dra or OD make a better lynch than Kawaii, who ought to just be vig-bait.

I'm only willing to lynch either of P-dra or OD today.

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@Gamma, you know what I mean. Signal:noise here means I'm going to be hearing about important points through Fate's eyes until weeeeekend. You can, you know, give me something worth looking into because I really don't want to pour over thirteen hundred posts for pings. The town NEEDS to help each other stay focused and on-target, otherwise it'll end up cannibalizing itself a'la DGB's lynch priorities.

I brought you guys a fruit basket.

http://gleigh.net/scum/gay-mafia-2-QT.htm

Hahahah, One Direction is super town from this.

In fact, I'm pretty sure all of the hydras are.

Thank you for solidifying my Quilford scumread.

[DrippingGoofball]

lol don't pretend you read that post

I think the players are able to judge that one for themselves.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hypothetically speaking, if my mason buddy had a one-shot vig power, who should he kill tonight?

[DrippingGoofball]

Zoidberg ain't no scum. Sorry.

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HEY WHATS ALL THIS TALK ABOUT ZOID/DELTA I HEAR


SOUNDS LIKE GREAT DISTRACTION WAGONS AMIRITE?

Sounds like good compromise wagons that don't involve lynching a good town player d1

You're suggesting a policy-lynch, now? That's rich.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB I hope you will remain vigilant in keeping his OD wagon alive, Faraday is rearing up for a hop onto Zoidbergmceasy lynch's wagon in the QT saying "ZOIDS VOTE ON ME WAS TRASH NUUUUDIEDIE"

Yeah, well, that's not happening.

[DrippingGoofball]

Not less town exactly, but more likely to be scum.
Please, show me these scenarios you're talking about.

PEDIT: Fate none of the top wagons right now are very appealing, however I am willing to switch to DGB now if it's needed.

Then do it.

Unvote

Vote: DGB

Why did you need Om's permission to vote me, scum?

[DrippingGoofball]

Hypothetically speaking, if my mason buddy had a one-shot vig power, who should he kill tonight?

[DrippingGoofball]

*Sigh*

Yeah OD is starting to look like he's looking for scum, but he could just be looking for the other scum team.

[DrippingGoofball]

See, now that's two multiball slips for you DGB.

The first one I just chalked up to your usual large theme paranoia, but now a second one?

Why are you assuming two scumteams?

(1) Large theme
(2) Reck game
(3) NS has basically fessed 3rd party
(4) A hammertime alternative wincon

I'm assuming multiball until proof I'm wrong.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'll point out that it's not a 'slip' when it's totally deliberate.

[DrippingGoofball]

That's impossible, I'm not scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

this is an obligatory mention that thunderhog is probscums too

Him, and Quilford, too.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm myself not as confident of OD-scum as I was before. His belief in my scum-ness, wrong as it is, does seem to come from a genuine inquiry. I may have to reconsider a few things.

[DrippingGoofball]

My mason is considering vigging Thunderhog.

[DrippingGoofball]

That, too.

[DrippingGoofball]

Since Iec seems to demand I place a vote, I'm going to put it right back where it was before.

O_o

Isn't this irritating Iecerint for nothing, though? I'm not sure what TH's intent is.

[DrippingGoofball]

The RL excuses of a 3-headed hydra bother me a great deal.

VOTE: P-dra

[DrippingGoofball]

Voting Pdra NOW avoiding TH wagon for horseshit "RL excuses" ?

I'm sorry but I really believe in this, I've caught a lot of scum with it, and most recently in Ladies Night. Check out Telo and Amrun in particular.

With a 3-headed hydra, there is even more reason to believe in a strategic choice rather than actual RL hindrances.

The thing about RL excuses is that you are beating potential attacks to the punch by making statements that are unverifiable to excuse past, present and especially future behavior. In Amrun's particular case, you can add pulling at heartstrings - she's now done this twice in games with me when she was scum.

I do think that Thunderhog IS scummy, similarly for beating potential attacks by using a "careful" playsstyle as an excuse.

I could have voted either right now, but P-dra's very blatant RL-excuses scumtell was just too gross for me to let it pass.

And then my mason is hot to vig him so... he's not voting for him either.

[DrippingGoofball]

hey dgb you are aware we all go to the same school right?

So if one of us is busy, there's a good chance the rest of us are too?

SHOCKING HOW THAT WORKS

DO NOT BUY

[DrippingGoofball]

He was active when under attack. The lurking started gradually when he was no longer a target, which is still within the realm of NULL, but the RL excusing is recent so I'm not willing to give the hydra a pass for earlier spamming and high post count.

[DrippingGoofball]

they were active before they were under attack too though

Didn't they have like 748219573298 votes before even posting?

[DrippingGoofball]

Fate/Wyrd

Take your head out of your keister.

[DrippingGoofball]

holy shit DGB, why does that remind me of the end of Weather Mafia II?

I'm getting old, I've played too many games but they are all a blur. What was I doing in an end game anyway?

My mason wants to vig TH, but thinks P-dra is town.

[DrippingGoofball]

Uh-oh

Everyone back to their QTs!

What are we going to do with this DGB bizniss?

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB kinda disappeared after maintaining that TH is town w/ no alternate wagon panning out.

Except I didn't say TH was town, I said he was scum, but I really believe in the RL excuse scumtell.

[DrippingGoofball]

SCHITZO HYDRA HERE

Still good with DGB and BT bullets. Fate can probably wait but he's dropped so many of my personal scumtells for him so if I'm wrong I'll be all sad and blame Nuwen for it (plus she was scumm too so).

Chesskid, if you're gonna go down the path of "HURR SOMETHING'S OFF WITH KAWAII" you mind as well spill it now.

Don't worry, scum.

If I don't get NK'd tonight, I'll get NK'd tomorrow night - depending on what you and your buddies decide.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm alive!

[DrippingGoofball]

T-Hog not scum with
DGB
Iece
P-dra
vollkan
Wyrd
Zoid
SPB


T-Hog may be scum with 1/3 below

OD = Town lean - I really don't see why there are so many votes there.
NM = Town slightly-further-than-leaning - Despite low post count, actually seems to be scumhunting. Seems to be one of the only ones too...
Kawaii = An arrogant jerkoff. I'm gonna put you in the same column as P-dra.

[DrippingGoofball]

Who is that NM T-Hog is referring to? There is no NM...

[DrippingGoofball]

T-Hog not scum with

DGB
Iece
P-dra
vollkan
Wyrd
Zoid
SPB
Drench * added from previous list, I had missed this one

T-Hog may be scum with 1/3 below

OD = Town lean - I really don't see why there are so many votes there.
NM

* who is that?

= Town slightly-further-than-leaning - Despite low post count, actually seems to be scumhunting. Seems to be one of the only ones too...
Kawaii = An arrogant jerkoff. I'm gonna put you in the same column as P-dra.

T-Hog may be scum with

DeltaWave
zoraster
TheButtonmen
Quilford
JacobSavage
TheTrollie

[DrippingGoofball]

UPDATE

TOWNZ

DrippingGoofball
Wyrd (Nuwen/Fate hydra)
Om of the Nom
dramonic
Zoidberg - announcing that he's walking away is a townie move but rest is bad.
Iecerint
vollkan - a little too IIoA to be in above category by spamfest IS a put off so I sympathize.
Slumberpartybois (MattP/kanyeknowsbest hydra)
Drench

LEANING TOWNZ

DeltaWave
One Direction (Faraday/Empire hydra)
Gammagooey
Ythan
BT
Nachomamma8

LEANING SCUMZ

zoraster
Pretentiousdra (chesskid/Ellibereth/Action Dan hydra)
Kawaii (Kise/Katsuki hydra)

SCUMZ

Quilford - no read on vollkan or kuribo??? Too lynch-happy. Defended P-dra for nothing.
Nobody Special - if that's the NM in T-Hog's list
JacobSavage
TheTrollieDeltaWave
zoraster
TheButtonmen

I'm going to check the reciprocals now, this was a mix of my reads + what I get from a T-hog iso.

[DrippingGoofball]

Sorry I might be splitting my posts because my computer is very wobbly and shuts itself off all the time. I'm getting a new one, I'm waiting for delivery.

I've played with Quilford scum and there is nothing re-assuringly town in his iso. T-Hog ignored Quilford and never mentioned him.
NS posted nothing at all but IFF that's who T-Hog means in his "town-list" of P-dra, Kawaii & "NM" I'm willing to bet NS is scum because there is no way he could have a read on him.

[DrippingGoofball]

Aw, Nacho. OK that still means 1/3 of NM, P-dra and Kawaii is scum but now I cannot tell which.

[DrippingGoofball]

UPDATE

TOWNZ

DrippingGoofball
Wyrd (Nuwen/Fate hydra)
Om of the Nom
dramonic
Zoidberg - announcing that he's walking away is a townie move but rest is bad.
Iecerint
vollkan - a little too IIoA to be in above category by spamfest IS a put off so I sympathize.
Slumberpartybois (MattP/kanyeknowsbest hydra)
Drench

LEANING TOWNZ

DeltaWave
One Direction (Faraday/Empire hydra)
Gammagooey
Ythan
BT

LEANING SCUMZ

zoraster
Nobody Special - actually, I'm too lazy for "neutral" category but should be neutral.

1/3 IS SCUMZ

Nachomamma8
Pretentiousdra (chesskid/Ellibereth/Action Dan hydra)
Kawaii (Kise/Katsuki hydra)

SCUMZ

Quilford

- no read on vollkan or kuribo??? Too lynch-happy. Defended P-dra for nothing.

JacobSavage

TheTrollie
DeltaWave
zoraster
TheButtonmen

JacobSavage only voted P-dra early on, pissed around, and then bus'sed T-Hog being 12 on a 13-person lynch.

Bolded means that they are still scum after reciprocal search.

[DrippingGoofball]

Why is TheTrollie on your scum list?

Because T-Hog never mentions Trollie. I have to check if the both ignored each other, if they did, I would move him.

ON QUILFORD:

I have also arrived at the conclusion vollkan is town.

Don't wanna lynch ThunderHog. Someone made some very salient points on him being newbtown (was it Gamma?).

I feel like there are gonna be a few scum bussing ThunderHog, that was a nice easy wagon imo

Quilford goes from boldly not wanting to lynch T-Hog because Gamma(?) made some VERY SALIENT points on him being newbtown, to viewing the T-Hog wagon as few scum bus'ing on it because it's an easy wagon. Quilford does not vote T-Hog.

There are several turnarounds here. First, he blames Gamma (a townie, it turns out) for a convincing town-read on his buddy. This town read is based on noobness so it's nice to excuse T-Hog for future mistakes/bad-play that he's bound to make.

But here's the kicker: Quilford, who has a noobtown read on THog borrowed from Gamma-town, now suggest that THog is an easy wagon with lots of scum on it... scum that is bus'ing!!!

WHAT???? THog was an easy wagon because the scum decided to bus,

en masse

??? It was a easy wagon because scum bus'ed their buddies with only few townies voting THog??? WHAT???

[DrippingGoofball]

So here's what happened in Quilford's head with the THog wagon.

What he really wanted to says is that it was an easy wagon with lots of scum bus'ing a noob player making noob mistakes.

But Quilford accidentally wrote in that THog was being bus'ed, which makes absolutely no sense at all.

[DrippingGoofball]

Trollie ignored THog until this point:

hog

Now, Trollie was 6/13 on the THog wagon.

So there is nothing in Trollie and THog's iso that excludes Trollie from being scum with THog.

[DrippingGoofball]

So here's what happened in Quilford's head with the THog wagon.

What he really wanted to says is that it was an easy wagon with lots of scum bus'ing a noob player making noob mistakes.

But Quilford accidentally wrote in that THog was being bus'ed, which makes absolutely no sense at all.

I checked the timing of Quilford saying that THog was being bus'ed. Someone else can double-check, but as far as I can tell, Quilford made this statement AFTER THog got his thirteenth vote.

If Quilford is scum, this might actually indicate that the THog wagon was predominantly town. Someone should think of verifying this after I'm dead and Quilford's alignment is known. Promise me please.

[DrippingGoofball]

From DeltaWave's iso

Can anyone explain to me real quick what the deal with hog is?

I'm just really behind. I'll ISO Thunderhog.

I don't see TH's "careful" post as meaning anything. I can see that sentiment coming from town or scum.

Kise, weren't you guys wishing for Wyrd's death?

Yeah the JS vote looks like a bus. That wagon materialized so fast that I'd venture that some hard bussing went on.

Frankly I'm not certain that this is scum hoping a quick lynch on a buddy won't disappear or town actually not finding TH particularly scummy.

DeltaWave's theory that JacobSavage might be bus'ing has some merit, and just the fact that DW would name a bus'ing suspect on the wagon (as opposed to Quilford who gives no names), tempts me into giving DW a pass away from my scumlist

[DrippingGoofball]

I feel like there are gonna be a few scum bussing ThunderHog, that was a nice easy wagon imo

Quilford goes from boldly not wanting to lynch T-Hog because Gamma(?) made some VERY SALIENT points on him being newbtown, to viewing the T-Hog wagon as few scum bus'ing on it because it's an easy wagon. Quilford does not vote T-Hog.

There are several turnarounds here. First, he blames Gamma (a townie, it turns out) for a convincing town-read on his buddy. This town read is based on noobness so it's nice to excuse T-Hog for future mistakes/bad-play that he's bound to make.

But here's the kicker: Quilford, who has a noobtown read on THog borrowed from Gamma-town, now suggest that THog is an easy wagon with lots of scum on it... scum that is bus'ing!!!

WHAT???? THog was an easy wagon because the scum decided to bus,

en masse

??? It was a easy wagon because scum bus'ed their buddies with only few townies voting THog??? WHAT???

Yes DGB, that was because ThunderHog had actually been flipped by the time I said that.

Huh. What about that.

That doesn't change much, you're still claiming that it was an easy wagon because scum decided to bus...

[DrippingGoofball]

Now, if we want to start a P-hydra wagon - I'm in. It's true that I do have a town-lean read on him, but this entire thread would be so much more bearable were he not in it - and in a game this large I'd be willing to sacrifice a town-lean for a much better rest of the game.

VOTE: Thunderhog

Getting tired of this line of reasoning. Waaah the thread is too long. Yeah. It is. And it kind of sucks. but you don't win games by simply lynching annoying people. He set up the whole "I hate hydras" thing in his first fluffy post, then said he'd "support" a wagon he does not support as scum. DGB also is guilty of this, but I get town from her.

zoraster is town. This is a town vote. Will move out of scumlist.

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UPDATE

TOWNZ

DrippingGoofball
Wyrd (Nuwen/Fate hydra)
Om of the Nom
dramonic
Zoidberg - announcing that he's walking away is a townie move but rest is bad.
Iecerint
vollkan - a little too IIoA to be in above category by spamfest IS a put off so I sympathize.
Drench
zoraster

LEANING TOWNZ

DeltaWave
One Direction (Faraday/Empire hydra)
Gammagooey
Ythan
BT
Slumberpartybois (MattP/kanyeknowsbest hydra) (their following Quilford-scum's vote is not good)

LEANING SCUMZ/NEUTRAL

zoraster
Nobody Special - actually, I'm too lazy for "neutral" category but should be neutral.
DeltaWave
TheTrollie (not liking mutual ignoring between THog & Trollie)

1/3 IS SCUMZ

Nachomamma8
Pretentiousdra (chesskid/Ellibereth/Action Dan hydra)
Kawaii (Kise/Katsuki hydra)

SCUMZ

Quilford

- no read on vollkan or kuribo??? Too lynch-happy. Defended P-dra for nothing.

JacobSavage

TheButtonmen (nothing in short iso warrants moving up)

JacobSavage only voted P-dra early on, pissed around, and then bus'sed T-Hog being 12 on a 13-person lynch.

Bolded means that they are still scum after reciprocal search.

Willing to lynch Quilford or JacobSavage today.
VOTE: Quilford

[DrippingGoofball]

CORRECTIONS

UPDATE

TOWNZ

DrippingGoofball
Wyrd (Nuwen/Fate hydra)
Om of the Nom
dramonic
Zoidberg - announcing that he's walking away is a townie move but rest is bad.
Iecerint
vollkan - a little too IIoA to be in above category by spamfest IS a put off so I sympathize.
Drench
zoraster

LEANING TOWNZ

DeltaWave
One Direction (Faraday/Empire hydra)
Ythan
BT
Slumberpartybois (MattP/kanyeknowsbest hydra) (their following Quilford-scum's vote is not good)

LEANING SCUMZ/NEUTRAL

Nobody Special - actually, I'm too lazy for "neutral" category but should be neutral.
DeltaWave
TheTrollie (not liking mutual ignoring between THog & Trollie)

1/3 IS SCUMZ

Nachomamma8
Pretentiousdra (chesskid/Ellibereth/Action Dan hydra)
Kawaii (Kise/Katsuki hydra)

SCUMZ

Quilford

- no read on vollkan or kuribo??? Too lynch-happy. Defended P-dra for nothing.

JacobSavage

TheButtonmen (nothing in short iso warrants moving up)

[DrippingGoofball]

No I'm not. I'm claiming that it was an easy wagon because he was an angry newb.

So now THog was an angry newb (first time you say he was angry), and you're recanting your earlier statement that he was bus'ed heavily?

I personally didn't find THog standing out as "angry" but that's neither here nor there.

You're scum, though.

DIE

[DrippingGoofball]

Or maybe you want us to believe he was bus'ed because he was an angry newb? Is that it, scum?

It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Hey why didn't your idiot scum team not kill me last night? It was a big strategic mistake.

[DrippingGoofball]

The two aren't mutually exclusive DGB. He is an angry newb who was therefore an easy lynch (because nobody liked him) and was probably bussed for towncred.

Now hush.

Pffffffffffffffft you know there were plenty of players that aren't your scumbuddies that would have been easy to lead to the lynch block.

[DrippingGoofball]

Now hush.

I don't give up when I find scum.

You really should have killed me.

Now, you're going to pay.

[DrippingGoofball]

There is tons of scum on my wagon right now and the rest are retarded. Quilford for sure. Kawaii for sure. SPB - maybe.

People don't know how to play this game anymore.

This town deserves to lose.

There is exactly ZERO case against me.

Enjoy losing to the scum.

VOTE: DGB

[DrippingGoofball]

Also I'm pretty sure that Wyrd

knows

I'm town so what's up with that. Om knows better, too.

[DrippingGoofball]

not to mention the obvious but we've obviously got a SK in addition to like ~5
mafia


*** Om are you the SK *** ?

ORLY

Please

Explain how this is "obvious"

SCUM

[DrippingGoofball]

there is no reason to vote yourself, and you know this.

Yes, I want you and your scum friends to win because this town is stupid.

We should have killed you yesterday on page 3.

[DrippingGoofball]

lol really?

KURIBO, Gamma? really town shots there?

when we've got what looks like single ball from the flip?

Where do you get 5 scum + SK

instead of two scumgroups

Or some shots that didn't reach their destination

[DrippingGoofball]

People don't know how to play this game anymore.

We discovered this a long time ago DGB.

Do

you

at least realize that P-dra cannot be anything but scum? Try to lynch him after you mislynch me and good luck with that.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB I'm voting you because you aren't making much sense anymore and it just looks like you're trying to get someone else lynched instead of you. You put in way more effort today when people were voting you than yesterday when there was a small amount of votes on you. Your attacks just sound weak, like you aren't even trying anymore.

You don't think that.

Please lynch me.

I will find the scum for you, and lynch me.

It doesn't matter anyway since I never live through Day 3. Lynched or NK'd doesn't matter, I end up spending most games in dead QTs anyway.

[DrippingGoofball]

I can pretty much guarantee P-dra scum and Quilford scum.

I'm going to tell who else who their buddies are. Remember to iso me after I'm dead.

[DrippingGoofball]

Jacob Savage for the obligatory lurkerscum slot.

[DrippingGoofball]

MOAR CORRECTIONS

UPDATE

TOWNZ

DrippingGoofball
Wyrd (Nuwen/Fate hydra)
Om of the Nom
dramonic
Zoidberg - announcing that he's walking away is a townie move but rest is bad.
Iecerint
vollkan - a little too IIoA to be in above category by spamfest IS a put off so I sympathize.
Drench
zoraster

LEANING TOWNZ

DeltaWave
One Direction (Faraday/Empire hydra)
Ythan
BT
Slumberpartybois (MattP/kanyeknowsbest hydra) (their following Quilford-scum's vote is not good)

IFF P-dra flips scum as expected, move these up to the town list

Nachomamma8
Kawaii (Kise/Katsuki hydra)

LEANING SCUMZ/NEUTRAL

Nobody Special - actually, I'm too lazy for "neutral" category but should be neutral.
DeltaWave
TheTrollie (not liking mutual ignoring between THog & Trollie)

SCUMZ

Quilford

- no read on vollkan or kuribo??? Too lynch-happy. Defended P-dra for nothing.

JacobSavage

- lurkerscum
TheButtonmen (nothing in short iso warrants moving up)

Pretentiousdra

(chesskid/Ellibereth/Action Dan hydra) >>> is the 1/3 scumz listed above, there is literally no way in hell this is a town slot.

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I can pretty much guarantee P-dra scum and Quilford scum.

I can pretty much guarantee you-scum. Nice AtE, by the way, but it won't save your scummy hide.

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L-5 by the way.

What's the matter, I'm hitting too many of your buddies? I'm getting too close?

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Next, I'm iso'ing these scumbags and finding the rest of their buddies. Kill me after.

Quilford - no read on vollkan or kuribo??? Too lynch-happy. Defended P-dra for nothing.
JacobSavage - lurkerscum
TheButtonmen (nothing in short iso warrants moving up)
Pretentiousdra

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Quick not in case my compy crashes again


BT is not buddy
DW is not buddy
Quilford is buddy

note to any vigs/etc in this game:

GOOD SHOTS :
01. Nobody Special
02. DeltaWave
04. Iecerint
05. zoraster
07. whispersilk
09. dramonic
18. Om of the Nom
20. JacobSavage
22. BT

Out of 9 players, I bet there is only one buddy. Lurkers NS, whispersilk are named before lurkerscum JacobSavage.

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note to any vigs/etc in this game:

GOOD SHOTS:
01. Nobody Special
02. DeltaWave
04. Iecerint
05. zoraster
07. whispersilk
09. dramonic
18. Om of the Nom
20. JacobSavage
22. BT

Iece comes right off the list the second he posts. Bonus points for hitting scumoraster the lurking scumbag who always lurks his balls off as scum, or dramonic who does the same.

Actually there is more. P-drascum is pointing out zoraster as a bad lurker, saving JacobSavage's keister.

Dramonic hasn't been lurking that bad, why is dramonic on that list.

So we have a list of 1 scum and 8 non-buddies put up for vig'ing, and P-drascum draws attention to zoraster and dramonic for unfairly applied reasons - these two players cannot be P-drascum buddies.

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MOAR CORRECTIONS

UPDATE

LEANING TOWNZ

DeltaWave

One Direction (Faraday/Empire hydra)
Ythan
BT
Slumberpartybois (MattP/kanyeknowsbest hydra) (their following Quilford-scum's vote is not good)

LEANING SCUMZ/NEUTRAL

Nobody Special - actually, I'm too lazy for "neutral" category but should be neutral.

DeltaWave

TheTrollie (not liking mutual ignoring between THog & Trollie)

lol

Sorry not much time for proofreading

Computer keeps dying on me

Though it's not that bad today for mysterious reasons it's burned me too many times.

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DGB THINK OF THE PATTERN YET?

I KNOW ITS REALLY COMPLEX BUT I THINK YOU CAN DO IT

I just did

Pattern solved

Jacob is your buddy.

Do you think he's town? Please tell us how you feel about JacobSavage.

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is it in dgb's townmeta to implode like this? y/n

Don't try to meta me

Just promise you'll take my conclusions seriously after I die

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hey look at that, jacobsavage is reading the thread. how are you jake?

He's copying and pasting from the scum QT give him a minute

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JacobSavage voted P-dra AND T-Hog (T-Hog vote not based on independent thought, but on zoraster's case).

In the middle of that, he complained attacked Kawaii in particular but no vote. Not 100% but would be willing to bet not scum with Kawaii - but that's gut. Objectively it could go either way.

NachoMamma would NOT be scum with JacobSavage, NM was pressuring JS in too aggressive a manner.

JS promised a re-read of P-dra to NM which took a while, and he concluded "neutral" with very poor reasoning, ie "lack of content."

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Interestingly with T-Hog's scumflip and JS scum-to-be-flipped, NM moves to town list.

Kawaii too, although not as clearly as NM.

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Hi. Fatewen, tell me what to think so I don't need to read the entire game, please?

Well there is this DGB wagon that you could sheep and not have to think till the morrow.

Said the scum

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Hi. Fatewen, tell me what to think so I don't need to read the entire game, please?

Well there is this DGB wagon that you could sheep and not have to think till the morrow.

Said the scum

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your little miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you could have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

MOD: Please replace me.

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I just want to say that poorly chosen copypasta is still pooly chosen copypasta.

Also, new computer!
VOTE: JacobSavage

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Someone needs to explain why zoraster is scummy, I don't see it.

This, however,

VOTE: Quilford

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Why thank you. You're continuing to point out the same things that I already do as either side...

@Mod: Not going to be able to post til Saturday Evening (GMT) and then will have limited access til the 6th January.

Strangely worded.

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" the same things that I already do as either side"

My mind snags at the odd self-meta.

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Yeah.

VOTE: JacobSavage

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zoraster goes first.

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DGB: Maybe I missed it, but was your neighbour vig buddy responsible for one of the night kills?

Fail

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Why did you hop on the Wyrd wagon? Do you still think DGB is town? These are the kind of things I want answered from you.

It seemed like a fair wagon at the time, and I wanted to see what they'd do. Yes I do think she is town.

EVASIVE ACTION DETECTED

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JS is being genuine as fuck Zoidy.

What throws me off is that JS says his wagon is

town

. Half of me thinks he's genuine, the other that his buddies are bus'ing hard.

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No there is no connection between them.

My thoughts on DGB would probably change though with how the early D2 surge of interest then silence that happened.

Sorry but my new drawing tablet is a delicious time suck and a steep learning curve.

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I'm not liking zoraster's evasiveness and disappearance myself. Maybe he has a new drawing tablet? I didn't find him scummy until he short-changed Om's very fair line of questioning with a quickie brush-off. It's highly possible that the more I see of him the more I'll want him dead. So maybe he should continue to hide, it's the most effective strategy for him.

JacobSavage gave very odd reads and dropped out, perhaps he has the new PhotoShop version installed?

Zoidberg is keeping a somewhat low profile but he doesn't strike me as scummy - he's probably installing all kinds of programs on his new computer. I'm beginning to be leery that he's being distanced if we have two scum teams, less so if there is one (something P-drascum seems to KNOW.)

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No there is no connection between them.

My thoughts on DGB would probably change though with how the early D2 surge of interest then silence that happened.

I'll add that I'm not impressed with you, and I'm especially not impressed with your recent contribution.

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THEBUTTONMEN IS SCUM HELLO

I see Fate's got an excellent track record of keeping accounts straight.

= Useless comment. Hidden among the spam, but TBM only has 13 posts total.

I'm slowly slogging through this disaster and I'm working on setting everything up for the MEGASUPERAWESOMEEXCITING MARATHON HOLIDAY EXTRAVAGANZA! so yeah ~excuses~

= excuses are scummy.

Everyone who has over one fucking hundred posts in the nine days this game has been running I want to extend a personal and heart felt stop fucking spamming I want to gouge my eyes out with goddamn spoons.

= While I sympathize, this is a third useless post out of 13.

TheButtonmen

)

so let's do it this way:

Big names get to tell me why they're not voting for Thunderhog right meow. If you've already said something to this effect,

QUOTE

your words in response to this post. I do

NOT

want to hear "my vote is on someone scummier," because it's not.

Everyone who has over one fucking hundred posts in the nine days this game has been running I want to extend a personal and heart felt stop fucking spamming I want to gouge my eyes out with goddamn spoons.

I have been in this game for just over a day now, it is 71 pages long, I hate everything.

= More uselessness, 4/13.

Huh.

Well that's good to know.

= More utter and complete uselessness, 5/13.

I'm busy christmasing yo I'll be back tomorrow night.

= More excuses and uselessness, 6/13.

Alrighty Im back from VLA, post should be going up later tonight.

= More excuses and uselessness, 7/13.

These wagons are bad.
@OD: Why is it so hard to lynch you again?

I don't care if you respond in bullet form but what's your top complaints with them?

= More excuses and uselessness, just asking a dumb question without follow up, 8/13.

Hmn I agree Jacobs play while I didn't see it happen in real time D1 doesn't seem at all scumlike to me so I'm also not interested in this wagon at all.

Thoughts on Zoidberg?

Now we have an OPINION! Unjustified "JS-not-scum" plus putting the onus back on someone else to make a case on Zoidberg.

Vote: Zoidberg

I endorse this wagon and/or service.

= one minute after asking for thoughts on Zoidberg, wagon push! So out of everyone, after making a bunch of worthless posts and excuses, TBM declares JS to be town. A minute ago, he needed someone's help to determine Zoidberg's alignment. After that minute, he gathered all the required facts and Zoidberg is scum!

I have read the game and zoid is consistently scummy through out. Jacob is just bad at mafia and flailing.

If TBM has read the game, why so few opinions, so many excuses, and complete uselessness?

Not be the sudden dog pile of a bad player wagon day 2. I'm not calling him town, I'm saying he's not done anything I want to wagon him down for and that there are much better calls to play out the day.

If anything I'd peg him as third party rather mafia.

After being challenged by DeltaWave, TBM suddenly decided that JS is THIRD PARTY!!! While he won't lynch JS, he's backing off calling him town, just some third party player WHOSE LYNCH HE'S STEADFAST AGAINST!!!

No there is no connection between them.

My thoughts on DGB would probably change though with how the early D2 surge of interest then silence that happened.

Willing to hop on another possible wagon that doesn't involve

not-town-but-maybe-third-party

JacobSavage.

I make terrible life decisions.

= Yet another useless post 9/13.

TL;DR

69% completely useless.
Only 13 posts.
Refuses to lynch "not-town-but-third-party" JacobSavage
It takes one minute to determine Zoidberg to be scum and only scum with no appeal.

VOTE: TheButtonmen

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Zor is hiding and being slippery so it's hard to make a case on him.

We could wagon him vigorously, he'd have to show up.

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Leaning Town

Dramonic
Wyrd

Zoraster

Ythan
Iecerint

If you insist

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Zor

om, OD, others: I agree zoraster looks scummy but let's focus on jacob please.

JS is town you fuck.

On what planet does town vote for one of his town reads, with no justification, because random player X asks him to?

Explain to me how JS it town.

Yeah but then, there's the above. It's more convincing that JS is scum, than zoraster.

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Metabullshittery. It's not a very strong read but he's raising some flags.

YOU're raising some flags.

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I'm not calling him town [...]
If anything I'd peg him as third party rather mafia.

On the basis of the above, you were willing to break the momentum of his (JacobSavage) wagon and vote Zoidberg, one minute after demanding a case on Zoidberg that wasn't delivered.

You realize that's the only thing you've actually done all game except 2 excuse posts and 7 nothing posts. Saving a player that you don't think is dropping town-tells, and that you're wagering is third party. That was worth saving? You objected strongly to his lynch.

In other words, I'm saying you're scum.

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vollkan while you're here your opinion on TBM would be appreciated.

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...the comment about third party was due to my knowledge that the last time I played with him and he sat about coasting like this he ended up being SK but I'm not really feeling that strongly at the moment either.

HE WAS LYNCHED DAY 1

PAGE 12

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...but I'm not really feeling that strongly at the moment either.

BACKTRACK DETECTED

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SOL now, JacobSavage has gone from ABSOLUTELY NOT GONNA LYNCH

to NOT CALLING HIM TOWN BUT MAYBE 3RD PARTY

to NEUTRAL

But you are strongly opposed to his lynch, still?

[DrippingGoofball]

Jacob's been stumbling over his answers like an incompetent player.
Zor is taking evasive action against anything presented against him.

And Thebuttonmen is scum too.

So basically today we have our choice of three scumbags to lynch.

My priority is TBM>JS>zor

Zor is last only because his evasive maneuvers are working on me.

VOTE: zoraster

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Fate if you're town, and these latest posts aren't evidence of its, you're a massive pile of suckage. Get back to Mafia 101, read the game, and say something intelligent.

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Hi. Fatewen, tell me what to think so I don't need to read the entire game, please?

There's a shit ton of scum to lynch through

DGB

Zor

Kawaii
Pdra (not scum with DGB but still scum cause chesskid)
23942 Lurkers

There's a couple obvtown but theres no need to point that out atm

If Zoraster is almost as scum as I am, why are you so displeased with the zoraster wagon and are you really calling your second biggest scum read LYNCH FODDER?

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I hate to fucking say it but I think Buttons is town here

OH please

Iso him and explain to the rest of the class why TBM is town. Post by post.

Do eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

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If Zoraster is almost as scum as I am, why are you so displeased with the zoraster wagon and are you really calling your second biggest scum read LYNCH FODDER?

JACOB IS LYNCH FODDER

AND ZOR IS EZMODE SCUM LYNCH THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN EXPLAINED

Oh, so zoraster is an easy scum lynch, but you're trying to derail an easy scum lynch wagon?

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Fate is scum, Nuwen is town?

Hey Fate

Are you per chance buddying to OneDirection?

[DrippingGoofball]

You did not answer my question.

If you think zoraster is scum, why are you derailing his lynch?

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HEY DGB

WERE YOU BY CHANCE TRYING OT BUDDY ME YESTERDAY?

I thought Nuwen was town. You, I'm not so sure.

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How is DGB's read on zor faked if you also agree he's scum?

Indeed, and I rescind my earlier read on Wyrd. TBM is chiming in to bus Wyrd for town cred, maybe we should accept his offer.

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Today is one of those days, no matter who I'm voting, I'm letting at least half a dozen obv scum get away.

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Like are you actually reading the game? My message has been pretty damn straight forward and repedative.

Is this some sort of soft claim?

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psst tbm was talking about killing zoidbergy

It sounded like he agreed that Wyrd needs rope, which seems like a more reasonable position to take given the evidence that Wyrd is going off the deep end and not reading the same game as the rest of us.

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ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

I HAVE HAD IT WITH ALL THESE MOTHERFUKING MORONS IN THIS MOTHERFUCKING THREAD

COP HERE GUILTY ON YTHAN

LRN 2 BREADCRUMB KTHXBAI

Vote: Ythan

Hammered in 2 pages or [removed]

This sounds like BS

Where's the breadcrumb

You accused Om of being SK

You voted DGB, JacobSavage, and zoraster

Now you say you have guilty on Ythan?

Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrright

[DrippingGoofball]

I do see the breadcrumb but...

[DrippingGoofball]

In addition the the breacrumb, P-dra accused Om of being SK, and voted 3 different non-Ythan people.

[DrippingGoofball]

the Om SK thing was just so the breadcrumb without our flip would be harder for scum to catch.

Quite the contrary, it was the most obvious "breadcrumb" - you (1) proposed a one-SK plus 5-scum setup, and (2) I do not read your posts with the n-word so I would have missed the Ythan thing absolutely.

OmNom would be the first to get rope with your "breadcrumbs."

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hi dgb it's called not claiming a guilty so that when you flip its an easy lynch

Once upon a time I was a Bodyguard and lived 3 nights. Before nightfall, I left very obvious breadcrumbs of who my night target was. Clear, unambiguous breadcrumbs. I hit scum and died, but my efforts weren't in vain and the scum I targeted was lynched.

Your "breadcrumbs" would have lead to the demise of perhaps 5 different people depending on what "breadcrumbs" we're supposed to believe. The most convincing one is Om-SK. Ythan's was quite cryptic.

Are you some kind of SCUM cop maybe?

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is there a reason you're not flavor claiming as well as power?

I support this motion.

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Hurry up chesskid you have 3 minutes to post flavor. Any extended delay points to you making stuff up.

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Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Pretentiousdra

HURRY

I grow tired of your foolishness.

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I smell fakery and a fast escape when caught.

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I thought you were gone.

More details and make it snappy.

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You should know your role PM.

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Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Pretentiousdra

Why did you feel the need to pretend to leave?

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DIFFERENT
HEAD

Then hurry up and spit out the details of your fakeclaim.

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I mean you're two of you in your hydra QT, how long does it take to produce a credible fakeclaim after you're dropped multiple confusing breadcrumbs? If you planned something, you must have prepared a fakeclaim, right? Just cut and paste it.

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Lol NPH, where's Umbrage when we need him.

What do you think about these recent shenanigans?

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omg which of you guys keep unsubscribing the thread form the subscriptions thing.

Why don't you post more details of your PM instead of wasting everyone's time?

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(P.S.: what would be hypothetical Pdra's scum plan here?)

I have noooooooooooo idea. Fake-guilty LOL? They could have pulled the same breadcrumb on Om-SK.

It's not making sense as scum - it's not making sense as town.

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@One Direction

In your opinion, there's nothing sketch about P-dra here? I'm really out to lunch with the concurrent Om-is-SK breadcrumbs, and P-dra's votes for 3 non-Ythan players? And lack of claim details?

[DrippingGoofball]

Except I'm not an SK DGB.
Do you think it would make more sense with that in mind?

First of all if you were an SK I would hardly expect you to own up to it...

But in P-dra's post, there are two breadcrumbs. One cryptic breadcrumb that Ythan is scum, and one much more in-your-face breadcrumb that you're SK, that he reposted several times in fact.

[DrippingGoofball]

No. Again, what is the scum motivation in fake claiming a guilty on someone D2 of a 25-player Large Theme with a scumbuddy down?

For the lulz? Reactions? Is this beneath P-dra?

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And how would an in your face breadcrumb be useful?

Even when I thought my breadcrumbs were super-obvious, people weren't 100% sure, and given that we're all ADD here, who would have picked up that Ythann breadcrumb? If P-dra would die and flip town cop, I'd totally believe that he had a result on YOU.

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For the lulz? Reactions? Is this beneath P-dra?

Yeah ok.

So DGB, do you want to get lynched on D3 or D4 (after Zoraster)?

Yeah. Scum love to argue endlessly about an alleged cop result that on the surface appears to have few plot lines for scum motivation.

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But the thing is, how would he know whether or not I'm the SK?
Wouldn't he just get a guilty on me?

What I'm saying is that P-dra has TWO guilty breadcrumbs. One for Ythan-Mafia, and one for Om-SK. So, yeah, I'd expect he'd get a guilty either way.

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No. Again, what is the scum motivation in fake claiming a guilty on someone D2 of a 25-player Large Theme with a scumbuddy down?

Two scum teams?

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VOTE: Ythan

But I better not hear P-dra claim that he's been re-directed if Ythan doesn't flip scum.

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Sorry guys I forgot to wait for nacho to hammer.

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Vote: Ythan

I'll see where this goes but I can't shake the feeling it's going to end with phydra going lololol we r just jokin' lolol.

I'm glad

someone

doesn't think I'm crazy for thinking exactly that.

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Yeah have you read the last few pages????

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If Ythan doesn't flip scum then Pdra is dead as shit for faking a guilty.

He can say he was bus driven or some other nonsense.

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VOTE: ythan

Yep, those crumbs look pretty legit to me.

Both crumbs look legit? The Ythan is mafia AND the Om is SK?