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[Ythan]

Morning friends.

[Ythan]

VOTE: hercule

[Ythan]

yeah hercule you snowed me really bad i had you in my top tier with oka hopkirk and unwnd.

bro i was trying probably harder than i've ever tried as scum i'm a little mad it got ruined

Don't worry you weren't going to make it very far.

[Ythan]

me have top sekrit meta read on hercule

ftr my team were briefed on hercule's scum meta and had we flipped xtoxm, hercule would have probably been bye bye, i will say koba gave us some tips on scum!hercule and even though dkkoba was like "he's town", everyone else on the team were like "but u just described his play this game"

no mention of that top sekrit thing in hercules wall so hehehehuehuehuehe

ahem then again the only reason why we wanted to flip hercule was because we thought xtoxm/hercule/mastina was it and i didn't want to push mastina

wait you scumread me the whole time???? damn

the thing is if you read my iso that game i kept hinting at a fake townread and it was you lmao xd

but i really wanted to kill xtoxm and you were helping so i made a political choice

If we're doing this I called the whole scumteam and just never got a chance to say it.

[Ythan]

My book:

Lol

[Ythan]

guys do you think we're shitposting too much in here

I think it's better than trying to put a lid on it and giving people an excuse to talk less.

[Ythan]

I forgot to say vibe a bunch at the beginning of the day I was gonna do that. Vibe vibe vibe.

[Ythan]

It's astounding.

[Ythan]

Greeting

Best Replacement

Checks out.

[Ythan]

ill make you townread me dgb. i will. just you wait~~~

You know I'm town.

This works.

VOTE: innocentvillager

[Ythan]

there's more content in the above post than your entire iso in the first game

I knew better than to waste my time on the last one.

[Ythan]

Holy shit if you get ninja'd and you suddenly wish your post had context you can click quote on a post in that area down below and the quote will be added above your post in progress I never knew that that's amazing.

[Ythan]

I was really hoping someone would ninja me so I could test it again lol.

Pedit hell yeah it works!!

[Ythan]

Thank you mod for making the first vc about Neoplatonism.

[Ythan]

Vc also feels pretty familiar lol.

[Ythan]

i townlean you too now!

Oh good I'm already voting for you.

[Ythan]

Holy shit if you get ninja'd and you suddenly wish your post had context you can click quote on a post in that area down below and the quote will be added above your post in progress I never knew that that's amazing.

Weird when you do this it just includes the name and not the post number or a link, as in my previous.

[Ythan]

A few more strategically timed game throws and we can keep this going to 2022

[Ythan]

VOTE: hercule

[Ythan]

e'pjyp ns' ]tl / rup oouph /lm nmblbnbi

Stop though.

[Ythan]

It's in poor taste.

[Ythan]

Noise noise noise noise noise. Happy with where my vote is parked.

[Ythan]

SHOOTING FUCK I RUINED THE RITUAL IGNORE THE ABOVE POST

NEVER EDIT YOUR POSTS

Layers of failure.

[Ythan]

he's refusing to give ANY of his reads until LLD apologizes to RC and makes good restitution on the defamation of his holy image.

Yeah that totally makes sense.

[Ythan]

I'll bite.

VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta

[Ythan]

I hope you plan on making him back it up if you're gonna ask a suspect a question like that about themselves.

[Ythan]

What is your goal Oka?

[Ythan]

In isolation this whole exchange leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

[Ythan]

But the burden of evidence is.

[Ythan]

But the burden of evidence is.

the fact that we vote to lim d1 means burden evidence is not really on the accused lol

Who said the burden of evidence is on the accused??

[Ythan]

But the burden of evidence is.

the fact that we vote to lim d1 means burden evidence is not really on the accused lol

Who said the burden of evidence is on the accused??

way to go me

sorry burden of evidence is not really on the accuser

I intentionally said evidence and not proof. You need something or I don't even believe you're voting honestly yourself.

[Ythan]

so ythan, why are you voting LLD

Biggest wagon I agree with, and she hasn't been by since I hopped on. No sense hopping on Oka right now if that's what you mean.

[Ythan]

Then say that.

@Oka

[Ythan]

no that's not what I mean

I mean why do you agree with it?

I don't buy all that bombastic noisy bullshit and I don't think she's hunting scum.

[Ythan]

Oh I didn't even see those two posts when I made that.

[Ythan]

why the fuck are you town reading ythan and not A50

fingerguns

[Ythan]

i'm fully aware that i look like an LLD partner right now but i am not going to let that stop me from pointing out that the game state is completely irrational.

It's

very

rational.

You might even call it

super

-rational.

[Ythan]

Votes are going to go somewhere. I guess I'd recommend presenting a more attractive alternative.

[Ythan]

Oka you are incomprehensible right now.

[Ythan]

VOTE: dgb the chicken Is making a lot of sense lately and I’m starting to tr lld

I want multiple examples of chicken posts you're referencing here.

[Ythan]

I've been ???ing at Oka all day so it's an odd comment to see from IV.

[Ythan]

Yeah stop bumping your noise.

[Ythan]

Okay totally gonna catch back up tonight. Not right now though.

[Ythan]

Endorsing what Titus is saying right now as a good general rule in mafia. Think about it.

[Ythan]

Can you stop answering for my scumreads? It's very frustrating.

Except you didn't resolve anything but just gave Dunn an answer to hide behind...

These tbc

[Ythan]

Is that a crumb? I'll totally take it for one.

UNVOTE:

Doesn't make me feel good about you.

[Ythan]

Monkeys do what monkeys see.

[Ythan]

Doors anyone else feel lie this game has really slowed down over the post~24hours

[Ythan]

i literally should not care about defending her at all if she's not going to post more

Yeah it's strange.

[Ythan]

VOTE: ythan
VOTE: dgb
VOTE: titus

Maybe. How is Ythan different from last game/ will they ever be readable?
Why do so many people townread dgb?

ythan cared about something last game

You're right

Ythan, do you have reads?

Ythan
Dun
Cephrir
Luca
Jjh
Mastina
Winter
Dan
Hopkirk
Titus
Xtoxm
Drip
Innocent
AGar
Almost
Lady
Oka

Something like that. Many adjacent positions are somewhat equivalent especially toward the middle.

Worst I'm unclear on, I have plans to settle that slot into the list somewhere some time since it's relevant.

[Ythan]

VOTE: ythan
VOTE: dgb
VOTE: titus

Maybe. How is Ythan different from last game/ will they ever be readable?
Why do so many people townread dgb?

ythan cared about something last game

Explain yourself by the way.

[Ythan]

Hi Bell.

[Ythan]

you cared about hercule being scum last game

I have not gotten the impression you care about much anything this game

like I guess you scum read LLD? but,,, why

I answered this and that answer hasn't changed. She's just not trolling material that's what you're picking up on.

[Ythan]

no that's not what I mean

I mean why do you agree with it?

I don't buy all that bombastic noisy bullshit and I don't think she's hunting scum.

I'd expect you to remember given you were the one who asked me before.

[Ythan]

You know there was a previous game right?

[Ythan]

You got it.

[Ythan]

That's not what you asked, so you can wait.

[Ythan]

In fact, don't wait. You asked and I answered you. Now you're asking for a spoon.

[Ythan]

it's demonstrably not the answer to the problem I have with you

I think the meaning of my initial answer is more obvious than your purportedly demonstrable intentions.

idk why you're being hostile

Tom Brady won another super bowl.

[Ythan]

I'd still like to address you presenting me last game as caring. This feels illegitimate.

[Ythan]

Last game I picked a fight with a no name and then trolled and tunneled him senselessly until the game was called. I don't buy presenting that as caring.

[Ythan]

And I'm speaking to Dan first and foremost Dun.

[Ythan]

Says OkaPoka of all people can you believe it.

[Ythan]

Surprise surprise.

[Ythan]

Oh I thought I was voting Hercules last game. Whatever.

[Ythan]

That's how much I cared about it.

[Ythan]

Look at you still trying to find a believable place to put your vote on February 7th.

[Ythan]

I'd still like to address you presenting me last game as caring. This feels illegitimate.

I think you cared about hercule being scum last game

Eh I guess that's plausible.

[Ythan]

Pump it up a little more get the party goin on the dannflor

[Ythan]

I wish I could throw this game and start day one again

Are you listening scum

[Ythan]

all im saying is ythan resembles from my admittely limited experience, how some d1 scum players like to play

Oh is that what you're saying now

[Ythan]

all im saying is ythan resembles from my admittely limited experience, how some d1 scum players like to play

Oh is that what you're saying now

Hey chicken you gonna address how you just pulled this out of your ass?

[Ythan]

Same question to Ythan.

Scum unless I get a really fun role.

[Ythan]

Please end me you're all terrible.

[Ythan]

Dann's preparing for when I flip town.

[Ythan]

VOTE: OkaPoka

[Ythan]

for most players i feel like that's a towntell but it might be NAI for Ythan especially since we saw some of it last game

I was town last game you

this is an insult

[Ythan]

"Why should I think you're town" is a stupid question to ask Anna a stupid question to answer.

[Ythan]

whereas i could potentially see town!Ythan being genuinely tired of how long this game has dragged out for and not really caring

ythan am i right that this is kind of your headspace rn?

Why would you even feed me this and then ask ME if it's correct are you even trying??

[Ythan]

Still with the goodposting

[Ythan]

I think you'd be asking more meaningful questions than "why are you town" and "are you frustrated town" if that were the case.

[Ythan]

I'm not complaining I'm attacking you based on what I view as insensible questions.

[Ythan]

And no I'm not going to answer "talk about your headspace" that goes on the same pile.

[Ythan]

@2462 I'm tired of this idiotic game obviously.

[Ythan]

...

[Ythan]

im going through your iso and trying to figure out specifically why you are "tired of this idiotic game", like what specifically i guess, and i am not really succeeding

im willing to look like the idiot in this back and forth but please i just want... something from you :/ not sure what else to say

IT'S DAY ONE I FEBRUARY 9TH AND STILL NOTHING HAS HAPPENED YET IT'S THE MOST OBVIOUS FEATURE OF THIS GAME

[Ythan]

"Why on Earth would anyone be tired of this game?"

Every question you ask me seems less meaningful than the last I don't think you're trying to generate information asking these pointless questions.

[Ythan]

Hey now I'm accusing you of fluffing

[Ythan]

Hey now,

[Ythan]

You know what

[Ythan]

This is mine.

[Ythan]

It seems plausible in retrospect that you were reaction fishing and not asking those questions for their own sake.

We'll see about that when I'm sober.

[Ythan]

Ur a clown that's all I got rn

[Ythan]

i don't really think this is a scum reaction

[Ythan]

Lol mindmeld

[Ythan]

I was just messing with Ceph but you're an accrual clown.

[Ythan]

also ythan is very reminscent imo to how wisdom played baton pass and honestly how voldemort played last game barring you know, yeah

honestly some shades of me in starry night

This is such mad lib level nonsense someone-else's-meta garbageposting.

[Ythan]

Alt of Uncrowned

[Ythan]

You not gonna address the shitfire that was your last post?

[Ythan]

I wish I knew whether you were actually any good at this game AGar.

[Ythan]

Because calling that chickenshit goodposting requires some kind of deficit.

[Ythan]

You want me to stick a spoon in your mouth?

[Ythan]

Why do I even want to stay in this game I thought a TM playerlist was supposed to be able to read games.

[Ythan]

Sick burn keep voting for an admitted fakeread and pretending you're trying.

[Ythan]

i rolled town this time and i'm so relieved

sry for being so cute before, the boys can't resist me u know how it is.

idk part of me is going "is... this... really Ythan's scumgame?" low-effort no-cares okay compromise elim me if y'all want y'all suck? and this is his favorite alignment?

me too, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

G A R B A G E A T M A F I A

[Ythan]

I'm the morning I'll be sober but you'll still be bad at mafia.

[Ythan]

You're certainly not going to find out making jokes.

[Ythan]

VOTE: lld

[Ythan]

Ahem

[Ythan]

VOTE: lld

Mod

Fixed.

[Ythan]

Tyty

[Ythan]

IV is pretty null. Ended up basically at the bottom of my null reads but in the middle of the pack exact positioning doesn't mean much for me.

[Ythan]

Do you think I'm going to change my answer when you ask that or what.

[Ythan]

It seems plausible in retrospect that you were reaction fishing and not asking those questions for their own sake.

We'll see about that when I'm sober.

I sober endorse this post. He gets no scum points for yesterday.

[Ythan]

Drink you'll stop caring

[Ythan]

Alcohol is poison

[Ythan]

If you find you have to choose one might I recommend not voting with the person you're currently voting for.

[Ythan]

We can spend all game discussing how invested you feel I am if you like.

[Ythan]

I can't wait for people who know me to respond to that.

[Ythan]

Glory.

[Ythan]

I feel like it's most believable from someone actually currently voting me thanks bud.

[Ythan]

which would require a total reset of the game.

eyebrowwaggle

[Ythan]

I'm inclined to say he also defended me last page in a way that would not to helpful to miselim me, but he's also one of the people who obviously has to acknowledge that this is just me regardless of his alignment.

[Ythan]

That is to say, smells town but he had to say something. That is a town smelling thing to say though.

@ythan

[Ythan]

at the very least we know bell is 100% mobile posting with those autocorrects

I've gotten the lld>old correction more times than I can count and this is the truth.

[Ythan]

is literally everyone but me voting ythan doing it as a compromise/nullflip -_-

I'd say "almost makes you wanna reassess your reads doesn't it" but you already have last game to look at.

[Ythan]

Nah it just takes a while to adjust to

[Ythan]

I think it is!

Pedit fuck

[Ythan]

Lld didn't get the reputation people have been talking about all game playing like this. I think it's lazy scum.

[Ythan]

Idk the fine details. This play just seems very unconstructive (we're not talking about me right now hehe)

[Ythan]

like as it stands i feel like the vibe is that lld is scum and im the partner trying to dig her out

well obviously im not scum so i mean? what is lld scum doing then

of course you scumreaad me but ahh id love to hear you out anyways

If you're town shouldn't you consider that you're defending scum mistakenly.

[Ythan]

I don't particularly scumread dgb and don't want to eliminate it d1. Titus I don't really have much feeling on. I can take a look some time soon but I do scumread lld and don't feel compelled to move.

[Ythan]

you think she is so big brained to know that a townie like me is going to save her as scum?

I don't think that's particularly big brain considering how the day has fin gone so far.

[Ythan]

VOTE: lld

i guess its whatever

ythan you better keep this up

Quote this post at me when you feel I am not.

[Ythan]

I would also request that you explain the SR on each slot, but I feel like I won't have much to respond with if you do, so I'll make it optional

Try to act like you want to accomplish something.

[Ythan]

I would also request that you explain the SR on each slot, but I feel like I won't have much to respond with if you do, so I'll make it optional

Try to act like you want to accomplish something.

That would be voting you (being the top wagon) because my most sincere wish is for this day to finally end

Being snippy doesn't make handling your suspects with baby gloves any more believable.

[Ythan]

Is that Oka vote just about what you addressed in the post?

[Ythan]

I for one am not voting lld for personality I actually feel bad about her being the day one elimination from a people I'd like to play with perspective.

[Ythan]

According to the birthday paradox, in a group of 23 (or more) randomly chosen people, the probability is more than 50% that some pair of them will have the same birthday.[13] A related coincidence is that 365 times the natural logarithm of 2, approximately 252.999, is very close to the number of pairs of 23 items, 253.

woah this is wild

[Ythan]

Is it really over

[Ythan]

Yo dgb is dead.

[Ythan]

DrippingGoofball has been killed on Night One. It was a Town Tracker.

[Ythan]

Oh I think I see what you did. Explains the long post.

[Ythan]

The players in this category are all scum or honorary scum, we need the mod to sort out the rest.

honorary scum? chill lol

Jumpy.

[Ythan]

Hi,
Driving home in an hour then full attention.

I have never seen Dunnstrall effort this hard. In addition, in the individual comments nice touch on talking about flipping DGB when DGB is dead if scum.
What's a neopolitan?

probably town!Dunnstral tbh

sucks that he's tunneling me

Wow this feels hyperbolistic.

[Ythan]

I don't recall having any unkind thoughts about jjh yesterday, are we sure iv isn't worse? He's next on your list.

[Ythan]

our reads all suck and people who are confident tunnelling should probably tone it down

There's five names on the list nobody is tunneling you.

[Ythan]

The last game had no repeat modifiers. For what that's worth.

[Ythan]

There are 4 mafia players and 14 town players.

[Ythan]

It's at the bottom of the second post.

[Ythan]

Well near the bottom.

[Ythan]

What are you failing to understand this game has fourteen town and four mafia. At eighteen players that's all there is.

[Ythan]

The last game had no repeat modifiers. For what that's worth.

The last game didn't have a whole lot of things. What's your point?

I was answering a question you chattering monkey.

[Ythan]

Stupid.

[Ythan]

Actually, Dann also had the Announcing Modifier. Can everybody ask their "more-experienced-in-moderating team members" what that could mean?

[Ythan]

Almost50 is being actual monkey level stupid you need to specify why you're voting and not just sheep a moron.

[Ythan]

Ty

[Ythan]

Thank god I'm not playing this game with seventeen almost50s.

[Ythan]

I'm contributing nothing while this insipid monkey can't read the fucking thread.

[Ythan]

it's literally absurd that people are scumreading (???) and im just getting pissing looking at it again so i will have to delay my return to the thread for longer

Dude why you so nervous.

[Ythan]

VOTE: a50

[Ythan]

I'd be careful of applying that theory too generally, because paranoia is a natural scum reaction.

[Ythan]

I'd be careful of applying that theory too generally, because paranoia is a natural scum reaction.

For shit scum players maybe

But scum are actually more informed than town

90% of everything is shit including scum.

[Ythan]

@a50 do you believe there is a chance of an sk?

Lol I almost asked this in response to his last post. I'm enjoying you today.

[Ythan]

Well second to last.

[Ythan]

Jfc a

[Ythan]

Why would he care about your other town reads' opinions

[Ythan]

Arrested Development narrator voice: it was in response to a50 speculating on the presence of a third party

[Ythan]

Have the decency to drink if you're going to post like it regardless.

[Ythan]

I weep for the future where I can't say idiot on mafiascum.

[Ythan]

We should be impressed a monkey can type.

[Ythan]

this makes me laugh so hard he really just said ythan is ioa for describing the setup oh my god its so troll

Again, this is why you are overly scummy to me. Describing the setup (referencing what the mod had already told us) serves absolutely no purpose here, not to mention it was in response to ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. It was a quote of YOUR post (Or was bit IV's??). Why on the planet did he feel it necessary to quote a quote of the mod without saying anything else?

Remember when a50 posted this gem.

[Ythan]

What are you failing to understand this game has fourteen town and four mafia. At eighteen players that's all there is.

Back to Mafia 101

VOTE: ythan

IoA (or something like that)

What a fucking joke.

[Ythan]

To be clear I won't be offended if anyone calls me an anime girl that's why it's my avatar.

[Ythan]

Oh it's you.

Ever acknowledge how much of your posting today has been predicated on completely failing to read the thread?

[Ythan]

P.S. For once I managed to read the next post before I submitted my response. Don't get used to it.

Reading two posts is nothing to brag about in your position.

[Ythan]

Oh it's you.

Ever acknowledge how much of your posting today has been predicated on completely failing to read the thread?

If I have to post it again I'm blowing the font up real big.

Has realizing your mistake wrt to the mod confirmed information in the second post influenced your reads on any thing in any way?

[Ythan]

@a50 obv(?)

[Ythan]

Just as planned.

[Ythan]

4-5

It's 4 by the way.

[Ythan]

It's a phone!

[Ythan]

while you're here, is there literally any way to read you? i want shameless self meta here

Idk I haven't played a large in a long time and I'm finding it hard to be useful.

[Ythan]

while you're here, is there literally any way to read you? i want shameless self meta here

Idk I haven't played a large in a long time and I'm finding it hard to be useful.

do you think you're a player that can be sorted... ever?
in all of your 13k posts worth of game
i'm not even getting null vibes, i'm getting no vibes which is weirding me out on an 'oh god what's happening to the world, hey is that Cthulhu?' level. i should always have vibes. this is kind of mean of you to not let me have vibes

I'm solidly ??? tier.

[Ythan]

What has Ythan contributed though? What will Ythan contribute?

Jjh has contributions and reassessments. I don't really get why you're voting there.

This is your takeaway from the immediately preceding post?

[Ythan]

Wow cool.

[Ythan]

Yeah that was a hell of a response.

[Ythan]

i didn't go back to check and i thought it was a warm beverage.

I would change to this if it were any other character.

[Ythan]

I will effort but a50 deserves my vote.

[Ythan]

Big brain there.

[Ythan]

Did I ask YOU to give an opinion? Are you am experienced mod? Which one of your team members gave that response? And -most of all- WTF does the answer have to do with the question?

The previous game didn't have a repeated Modifier. This game does. I am asking what that means from the perspective of setup speculation done by experienced mods in Normal Games. What does the fact a game didn't have something have to do with the fact another game does?

You know what? I'll stop it at this. I was just trying to make it clear to EVERYONE how you are pretending to be engaged but are actually contributing absolutely nothing.

This feels like someone genuinely trying to make sense of the game and being frustrated by a lack of cooperation
.

This is a bad take.

[Ythan]

I'll sit and nod at being voted for my toxicity in that interaction but anyone building reads on thinking a50 is trying is full of shit.

[Ythan]

Like looking at that a50 post Luca's take is obscenely bad.

[Ythan]

jjh927: The only good thing in this iso is the part where he tries to figure out Titus. Their reads suck: They are wormhole tier and are better served upside down, but their individual play and pushing of the LLD/Titus wagons pushes them up to wormhole tier.

So I'm looking deeper into this jjh wagon and this is a bad start. I don't think this paragraph is true at all and there's nothing following it that makes the vote more palatable.

[Ythan]

Oka explicitly just sheeping Dunn.

[Ythan]

VOTE: jjh i do not townread this slot

Then this

[Ythan]

And now a regretful Ceph. Eh.

[Ythan]

Yeah this jjh wagon is a shitty wagon I'm calling it.

[Ythan]

OkaPoka - Oka feels kind of like me this game, in that if he is scum, he has been faking all the highs and lows of the deadline scramble, being present when it's urgent, and actively pushing the town to be productive at times when it felt pretty natural to do so.

Am I too high that this looks like you're just casually talking about being scum rn

[Ythan]

Yeah this jjh wagon is a shitty wagon I'm calling it.

Who do you think we should be voting?

I think it's pretty obvious I'm doing some reading right now to settle that but maybe that's asking too much.

[Ythan]

alright ythan, do you agree there are a lot of bad slots this game that need purging?

It's not constructive to say there's a lot it's better to focus on the worst ones.