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VOTE: Zyla
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I have yet to play a scum game, so I would say I am more confident in my town play, but also would like to actually play scum at some point.
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I would say decently confident. I am coming into this game off of a pretty good game. Town win on Day 2In post 9, StrangeMatter wrote:Here's a random question to everyone.
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That-In post 13, Save The Dragons wrote:are we doing rqs instead of rvs?
i feel confident town will win, how's that?
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Clearly they got a N0 cop guiltyIn post 19, Haschel Cedricson wrote: StrangeMatter: Why Hockeyfan?I have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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Well there goes that theory lolIn post 22, StrangeMatter wrote:
An RVS no?In post 19, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Vanilla Town is the best role because not only do I get to give zero fucks about drawing the nightkill, it's actually good for me to draw it.
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I am not above bribery. PM me the addressIn post 26, Save The Dragons wrote:i'm willing to sheep anyone who provides me with pizzaI have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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Oh Zyla, must we always be on opposing sides?In post 28, Zyla wrote:
Honestly, it's hard to be confident at this stage, but Luke is a pretty good player, so if he's on the Town side I'm pretty optimisticIn post 9, StrangeMatter wrote:Here's a random question to everyone.
How confident or nervous are you about winning this game?
On the other hand, it would be hilarious if he were the scum this gameIn post 14, Lukewarm wrote:
I would say decently confident. I am coming into this game off of a pretty good game. Town win on Day 2In post 9, StrangeMatter wrote:Here's a random question to everyone.
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On the other hand, Zyla has not pulled out her random number generator for her RVS vote yet, maybe she is town this time lolI have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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Have you played IRL? Or have you read games on site?In post 30, StrangeMatter wrote:At this point I've never tried Forum Mafia before, so I'm not too confident myself about this game.I have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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Me, Zyla, and Pavowski all just finished a game.
I have also played with STD, I think twice before.I have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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For reference, in our last game zyla was scum, and I caught her because she kept mentioning masons, and I realized she was mason hunting.In post 39, HockeyFan wrote:Ahh Ok so its a meta read? Makes a little more sense, although I still SR luke a bit(less than before AND almost leaning null rn), because thier opening didnt sound that genuine from a townie perspectiveI have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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Reads are really hard to come by this early in a game usually, especially since half the players have not even checked in.
I am getting town pings from HockeyFan so far, his slight shift from 33 to 39 seems like someone genuinely trying to sort me / zyla
Zyla also seems a bit more relaxed this game, maybe? I think time will help me sort her since I have a scum game to compare her to.I have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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I don't usually have reads this early, into 3 town reads is an interesting juxtaposition.In post 51, Save The Dragons wrote:it usually takes me a few pages for reads to develop but i agree with lukewarm that your progression feels natural wrt lukewarm and zula
i think i like haschel and lukewarm so far for town but again it's pretty early
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This is the exact opposite of how I approach games lolIn post 69, StrangeMatter wrote:I'd prefer to do Town reads later, and focus on what we think about possible scum reads/leans right now.
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The more I think about this, the less I like it actuallyIn post 69, StrangeMatter wrote:I'd prefer to do Town reads later, and focus on what we think about possible scum reads/leans right now.
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@HockeyFan, what is your experience with Mafia?I have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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HockeyFan, I am trying to follow your read progression on STD. Can you explain it more. You gave him a really early "confident town read," then backed it off of it with
Who is he protecting there? Strangematter? Do you even scum read Strangematter? I thought I was your strongest scum read, at least you are voting me, so then why would you be of particularly suspicious of his interaction with Strangematter and haschel?In post 74, HockeyFan wrote:Also, speaking about SVD:I did call him town earlier but after seeing post#52 and post#56 idk about that anymore, He was trying to soft defend his possible scum partner so SVD is back to null leaning scum. I also really liked this questioning by Zyla and I feel like scum dont try to push on someone who was already TR'D by 1-2 people.
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The more you are explaining,
I think that this is just a matter of difference how we would describe reads. What I usually see here on the site is, more of a progression something like leaning town -> weak town read -> Town read -> Hard town read.
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At the moment, I think that I am leaning town on HockeyFan and Zyla. Zyla has both been more relaxed and more aggressive then she was last game.
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This lobby has an interesting vibe. I am used to the first like 5+ pages of a game being mostly just RVS votes and kinda chatting and getting a feel for people, but there are several people pushing for everyone to have scum reads already.
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I guess this stance confuses me? The first several pages are about chatting, so I was taking part in the conversation at the time. I can and will interject in plenty of conversations.In post 100, HockeyFan wrote:What is wrong with partnery reads? Imo you and Luke were paired because of his post #24
I saw Strange make a rvs vote, then someone asked them why they voted that person. But it was the rvs phase of the game, no one has real reasons on literally the 11th post of the thread.
I am just not unsure why you would read 24, and think oh, that is a scum defending his partner.
Do you really think that I saw my partner make an RVS vote, then someone ask why they voted that person, and in that moment I thought my partner needed defending there?I have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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D1 is always wild imo.In post 102, Pavowski wrote:This is fun... D1 is wildI have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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I feel like you are ignoring the fact that most partners are actually going to be trying to distance from one another, no step in to defend the other one on page 1 of the thread lolIn post 113, HockeyFan wrote:
I tend to go for partnery reads alot more since mafia partners tend to have associative tellsIn post 105, Azeru wrote:On the topic of HockeyFan, this is actually really interesting to me.
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I feel like partners more often list eachother as a weak scum lean. So they don't look like partners, but they generally have 2~3 people listed as scummier so that they can have the scum lean on them without ever pushing on them.In post 147, Lukewarm wrote:
I feel like you are ignoring the fact that most partners are actually going to be trying to distance from one another, no step in to defend the other one on page 1 of the thread lolIn post 113, HockeyFan wrote:
I tend to go for partnery reads alot more since mafia partners tend to have associative tellsIn post 105, Azeru wrote:On the topic of HockeyFan, this is actually really interesting to me.
As far as I can tell, it seems like all of your scum leans have been partner reads so far. Is that coincidence or is it just your style to look more specifically for pairs then any individual player?I have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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Do we?In post 121, HockeyFan wrote:^ Another intresting thing that makes the Strange Matter/Lukewarm pair plausible is that they have the same reads...?
I think we both have zyla leaning town. But when I said I had you leaning town, they disagreed and said they were not so sure.
And then there is the fact that I voted for Strange because of them saying we should not focus on town reads. Which I do not like. Town reads are just as good as scum reads. In the very last game I played, on Day 2 I managed to get strong town reads on 3 other players, and that is enough to win the game, because we had enough eliminations that worst case scenario, we could eliminate everyone outside the town block before we lost. Town Blocks are powerful for town, and the scum can and should do everything they can to keep them from forming - hense my vote on Strange there.
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This is way too early for anyone to be claimingIn post 137, cyrus62 wrote:or at lest say l1 and then tell them to clime.
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I would say that your expectation is closer to the normal on this site.In post 149, Pavowski wrote:Granted I guess that's the way the game gets played here but I'm used to the NK being the first bit of info the village gets.
For now I'm just checking vibes and getting a feel for people. There is a lot of time before we have to make any decisions. But since apparently the real game has started and jokey playtime is over,
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Are you reading my posts? You are so focused on finding partners protecting eachother, that you missed that I am currently pushing StrangeIn post 159, HockeyFan wrote:
Neither of them have shifted suspicions onto others yet tho? so idk just seems odd they have the same reads and likewise don't have much SR'S. Probably an agreesive+passive mafia teamIn post 157, Zyla wrote:
Inwardly, that's true, but a good scum player isn't going to show it. If they think that it's guaranteed that their partner is going to be eliminated they'll vote for them, if they don't they'll try and shift suspicion onto someone else.In post 153, HockeyFan wrote:
I admit the whole "you guys are partners" read was based on very few things, post#24 just seemed odd to me. I SR u 2 indiually and while going through liogs I saw this and I was like "Hey, possible partners?". That partner association is gone from my head BUT you 2 still are scummy and CAN be partners but not because of 24In post 145, Lukewarm wrote:snip
As for 147, again maybe its different expereinces but most poeple I've played with dont want to see their mafia partner condemmed d1(including me)
In post 151, Lukewarm wrote:I voted for Strange because of them saying we should not focus on town reads. Which I do not like. Town reads are just as good as scum reads. In the very last game I played, on Day 2 I managed to get strong town reads on 3 other players, and that is enough to win the game, because we had enough eliminations that worst case scenario, we could eliminate everyone outside the town block before we lost. Town Blocks are powerful for town, and the scum can and should do everything they can to keep them from forming - hence my vote on Strange there.I have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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I never said that me pushing them would stop me from being able to be their partner...In post 162, HockeyFan wrote:I am reading your posts. Just because you push someone early d1 does not mean you are not paired with them.
I am saying that when you said
I sure did read like you were completely ignoring my push on Strange.In post 159, HockeyFan wrote:Neither of them have shifted suspicions onto others yet tho?I have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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Claiming early is bad for us...In post 163, cyrus62 wrote:
you scared if they start ?In post 158, Lukewarm wrote:
This is way too early for anyone to be claimingIn post 137, cyrus62 wrote:or at lest say l1 and then tell them to clime.
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I think says you?In post 168, cyrus62 wrote:
saids who? we know theirs only two prs so if scum slip and clime something then the real prs will know and bam caught the scum.In post 165, Lukewarm wrote:
Claiming early is bad for us...In post 163, cyrus62 wrote:
you scared if they start ?In post 158, Lukewarm wrote:
This is way too early for anyone to be claimingIn post 137, cyrus62 wrote:or at lest say l1 and then tell them to clime.
If a PR claims a PR role, then the scum team can kill them. If a VT claims VT, then the scum team can avoid killing them, and be more likely to kill a PRIn post 98, cyrus62 wrote:i think as town we should draw the nk it protects the pr so they can help solve stuff for us.I have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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I agree that anyone should be given a chance to claim before they are hammered... but no one should be claiming any earlier then when we are approaching a concensus that someone should be the elim for the day.In post 171, cyrus62 wrote:the real prs wouldnt be outed becuse the real ones wil be the ones watching for fakes. you bring people to l1 and tell them to clime before you hammer if you just hammer you learn nothing. the real one would normaly soft if put to l1 to let the players know its a bad idea to vote them.
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Do you think that it is a good idea for us to be putting people at e-1 and forcing them to claim already?In post 171, cyrus62 wrote:
the real prs wouldnt be outed becuse the real ones wil be the ones watching for fakes. you bring people to l1 and tell them to clime before you hammer if you just hammer you learn nothing. the real one would normaly soft if put to l1 to let the players know its a bad idea to vote them.In post 170, StrangeMatter wrote:
And what if the real PRs are outted, then what?In post 168, cyrus62 wrote:
saids who? we know theirs only two prs so if scum slip and clime something then the real prs will know and bam caught the scum.In post 165, Lukewarm wrote:
Claiming early is bad for us...In post 163, cyrus62 wrote:
you scared if they start ?In post 158, Lukewarm wrote:
This is way too early for anyone to be claimingIn post 137, cyrus62 wrote:or at lest say l1 and then tell them to clime.
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Why are you arguing that that anyone should be claiming less then 24 hours into Day 1?In post 176, cyrus62 wrote:every one will clime vt unless its scum then they aim at pr role but smart scum know this and say vt any way. so yes even if we say clime and the person saids they are pr then chances are they are not.
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Absolutely, no one should claim rn.In post 182, HockeyFan wrote:Also this discussion about "claiming PRS or VT" and "forcing people to claim PR" is not beneifical to town. I do agree it in about some esne that people who are at E-1 should claim but this discussion shouldnt exist. Minor town points to Strange for 177
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So this was a reaction test?In post 186, cyrus62 wrote:
your learn the truth soon trust me one day your think the same . right now i could just be messing with your head to see what all i can get out of you so far . luckwarms reaction makes me think they are town so i wont vote them.In post 180, Lukewarm wrote:
Why are you arguing that that anyone should be claiming less then 24 hours into Day 1?In post 176, cyrus62 wrote:every one will clime vt unless its scum then they aim at pr role but smart scum know this and say vt any way. so yes even if we say clime and the person saids they are pr then chances are they are not.
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VOTE: cyrusIn post 189, cyrus62 wrote:
your right 1 town point for you.In post 181, Pavowski wrote:
I do not even begin to comprehend this logic. Basically you're saying everybody will/should claim VT?every one will clime vt unless its scum then they aim at pr role but smart scum know this and say vt any way. so yes even if we say clime and the person saids they are pr then chances are they are not.
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So far I have TR on you early, and then been engaging with you logic. I think that your logic has been.. not great, but I am not really sure if that is from you being scum or just because this is your first game on site. I have mainly been pushing back on it, because I was hoping you would see that the logic was faulty, and look over the game with fresh eyes. But I think that the more I have pushed on it, the more you have tunneled on it which... also not greatIn post 208, HockeyFan wrote:He didnt? I was getting the assumption by him pushing me by pressuring me about the fact that I SR him and Strange. and fwiw, A. I said a bit of and thats not even the main content of my post
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I think that you have higher expectations for read quantity then most people have at this point.In post 217, HockeyFan wrote:Okay if that is the case, then I rescind some of my SR on u but i think you still may be possible scum because your only read is that I am scum
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Maybe cyrus's posting style is a bit, but it is a bit that makes it way harder to sort him.
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Do you normally change in ways that make you harder to sort in your current game?In post 224, cyrus62 wrote:
i and that is why i change everygame not two games are the same. im like a snowflakeIn post 221, Lukewarm wrote:Maybe cyrus's posting style is a bit, but it is a bit that makes it way harder to sort him.
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Well there is a distinct difference between changing your play style to be harder to meta read, and changing your play style to make it harder to read you in game.In post 230, cyrus62 wrote:
cant answer that.In post 228, Lukewarm wrote:
Do you normally change in ways that make you harder to sort in your current game?In post 224, cyrus62 wrote:
i and that is why i change everygame not two games are the same. im like a snowflakeIn post 221, Lukewarm wrote:Maybe cyrus's posting style is a bit, but it is a bit that makes it way harder to sort him.
I did a quick look at his other games, and he did not post this way in them.
But I will say that your last few posts seem to lean less into you bit, even if I don't know if I agree with the takes.
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Insomnia has resulted in me giving this game a 4 am once over, so that's fun
Doing isos until sleep calls to me
HockeyFan- I am still leaning town here I think.
33->39->44 just seems like a really genuine progression, coming from someone actually trying to sort mine and zyla's alignment, as opposed to scum trying to shade us. Also, just in general they seem really open to putting their reads out into the thread, and also regularly trying to draw content out from other players. They are also the top person activity wise, when I would expect a newbie scum player to be a bit more hesitant to be in the thread.
I don't really like some of their logic, like I think they are weighing people's alignments using strange criteria. But I am still thinking town here. I also think I might have been a little when I said they were tunneling in post 210. Reading back through the iso, I see them adjusting more then I realized going through the first time.
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His approach to this game, just... seems anti-town. The only thing that is keeping me at a scum lean instead of a scum read is trying to find the scum motivation for the way he is posting, because it certainly drew a lot of attention to himself. Like it almost seems anti-town and anti-scum??
Very much did not like his back and forth over claiming.
Another thing that stood out to me while doing the iso was this
In post 227, cyrus62 wrote:day 1 read may change but as of now hockey and pev are my top scum reads.
@Cyrus, so is hockey one of your top scum reads, or is he one of your 2 top town reads? That is a big swing for him to have in like 1 page of the thread. Why were you scum reading him as of post 227? What changed his read so hard by 262?In post 262, cyrus62 wrote:I'm on phone right now but Luke and hockey seems town to me so I'm down to 6 to short
StrangeMatterscum lean
I still really do not like 69. I think my biggest issue with it was that they were not just saying the way that they handle the thread, they were actively telling other people not to be giving out town reads. Like, their 69 looks like it in response to STD's 67, where he gave out 2 town reads.
Pushing people to stop working on town reads, but instead focus on scum reads on page 3 of the thread, when several people had not even checked in yet. I just... don't like it.
The next section of their iso seems to be focused on defending themselves from Hockey's read on them, which I think they would do as either alignments, so NAI.
I reached the end of their iso, and realized I have no idea who Strange is even scum reading. Their only vote so far was their RVS vote. So I just scrolled back through, and I cannot find a single place where they have said they were scum reading anyone, or said that anything anyone said was scummy.
Which, I think makes post 24 look even worse looking back on it? Like, they told people to stop handing out town reads and focus on scum reads, but then never did that themselves. So it seems even more likely imo, that they were really just worried that if people were giving out town reads early that we would end up with a town block.
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ebwop: this should be post 69In post 266, Lukewarm wrote:Which, I think makes post 24 look even worse looking back on it?I have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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If cyrus is scum, then I have no idea what the scum team would do right now.In post 294, StrangeMatter wrote:
The goal, was to get people’s experience as Mafia to get an understanding what Mafia would do in situations that happened like the mess with Cyrus. I worded it really horribly by not adding specifics, but it was to gauge who was and wasn’t doing that action.In post 293, HockeyFan wrote:
I dont like this question much tbh. I think hes just baiting answers from certain town members SO him(less likely) or his maf partner can start not doing these thingsIn post 290, StrangeMatter wrote:What do you think Mafia will do in this current situation.
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Save the Dragons has only said positive things about me, starting with an early TR in post 51, might be a pocket attempt?In post 286, Save The Dragons wrote:this game has new pages
cyrus isn't the play today
i still like hockey for town, i like the way he is engaging the game, it just feels like it's coming from town. same with zyla. luke's push on strangematter seems legit.
i'm less convinced about haschel atm. i want to hear more from azeru. i don't quite like 268 i get that it's early and not based on much but it does seem a little forced. strangematter is null for me.
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If it is its a weak one, but also, I am paranoid of early town reads on me, like before I think I have done anything particularly townie, and as of post 51, I was not sure why I would be getting town reads already. Which is why I asked him about it in post 65. I got side tracked a bit after that with the things Hockeyfan and StrangeMatter said, so I did not get a chance to follow up on itIn post 296, Lukewarm wrote:
Save the Dragons has only said positive things about me, starting with an early TR in post 51, might be a pocket attempt?In post 286, Save The Dragons wrote:this game has new pages
cyrus isn't the play today
i still like hockey for town, i like the way he is engaging the game, it just feels like it's coming from town. same with zyla. luke's push on strangematter seems legit.
i'm less convinced about haschel atm. i want to hear more from azeru. i don't quite like 268 i get that it's early and not based on much but it does seem a little forced. strangematter is null for me.
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I will not be voting Cyrus today, for reasons.
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Do you think that zyla feels the same or different from last game?
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Oh, kept reading up, and I see that you are trying to read her without meta.In post 268, Pavowski wrote:Zyla - inclined to read as town but I need to try to separate out the meta.I have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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32/42 clears up a misunderstanding, when leaving the misunderstanding out there would make a townie (me) look worse, and did not really impact reads on her, so anti-scum equity
70 aggressive on pushing a scum read, when last game she was not very aggressive at all Day 1 (she was scum that game)
In general, see her prodding people, HockeyFan, Strangematter (101), STD(284, 306), cyrus (236, 251). It just feels like she is genuinely trying to sort people.
I think I would peg her as a town lean based solely on this game, but moving it up to a town read including the meta
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Still a little worried about the early TR on me.
I do like his progression on Haschel in 51->52 -> 56 though. Was leaning town, saw haschel drop a vote without saying anything, called it out, but then went back and looked to find why haschel would have done it, and realized that haschel had asked Strange a question, and not gotten an answer. I think that scum would be less likely to have followed through and double checked why haschel did it. Like you just call empty voting scummy, and move on.
But in the same post, I don't like the "give a newbie a little slack" line. The newbie in question had 1 vote on them, is that really too aggressive? lol
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I am probably going to be absent from the thread for the next 24ish hours. Having an allergic reaction to my cat's new flea medicine, completely with severe migraine and nausea.
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what dont tell me you can read code.In post 338, Save The Dragons wrote:christ on a stickI have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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The more cyrus says stuff like this, and mentions his code unprovoked, the less I believe it.In post 343, cyrus62 wrote:
its not ment for everyone to read its a codeIn post 341, HockeyFan wrote:
sigh, you are actually so hard to read because half of the time, idk what you're saying lolIn post 337, cyrus62 wrote:inch fast that hat earth right east. in soon after dont only count, shoot ant vest every . match empty.
good luck
Like, why bring up the code in the first place if it is real?
Why right this new message, but then be okay with hockeyfan not being able to read it, because if both messages are true, then for all he knows hockeyfan is the exact person he needs to read it?
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Azerulean scum
Their iso feels very empty. Not just post count, but even in the posts they have, it is mostly just asking questions without putting any of their own reads/takes out there. Like they feel like they are being overly careful putting their own opinions into the thread (like every post before 237 has none of their own opinions)
Then 237, is their fist vote/push, and it is on Cyrus, which is a very non-controversial take.
333 and 351 are their first posts that feel like they are putting anything of their own out there... and not a fan of those either. Their apparent strongest town read is the person with the least posts in the thread, and even requires them to dismiss the things they don't like from the iso. Then there is shade on me and my strongest TR
HaschelNull
There is not a lot to look at here. I guess, I don't think that he could be partners with either Strange or HockeyFan, but I don't have a real independent grasp on this slot by itself
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Again, there is less to look at here then most slots
I kinda like 149, and his vote on Cyrus was early enough that it seems less like it is joining in after it became a non-controversial bandwagon (166 for Pav, compared to 237 for Azeru)
But then, this is a really weird way to form your reads. Like, I also think that Zyla is town, but not because of this. RNG can easily spit out less then likely scenarios, like I have played a few games with a guy named Unwnd, and he has been scum in all 3 of them. We even joked about it after our last game.In post 265, Pavowski wrote:Zyla was mafia in our last game so law of averages says she's town this time. Since RNG can always be trusted, this feels ironclad to me.I have a GTKAS now! - Come ask me questions!
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