Fire on the Mountain [Over]

[Jingle]

No. I see absolutely no reason town would be more likely to make that mistake than scum. The mistake itself is NAI.

Jingle
You think scum doesn't know their own dousing mechanic, and if they are unsure
they wouldnt ask mod that the first thing?

You didn't sound unsure. You sounded like you'd made a faulty assumption. And in my experience modding, it's far more likely for someone to attempt to use the ability the way they assume it works than seek clarification.

[Xtoxm]

if dann ends up being scum it possibly spews prince-slot as town

[Xtoxm]

Like until this game you were not really a person I had any conscious opinion on

nah you dont get to play innocent

i'd lynch him because he's obnoxious

like I know that xtoxm hates me, but him hating me isn't alignment indicative

you knew full well replacing into this game would create conflict and/or make me rep out
well, i chose to stand up to you this time

[Reiuji Utsuho]

my understanding from what others have said is that she's a strong player and i imagine she's capable of putting the kind of stuff on the board that she's done this game.

It's kinda funny actually. This is my second mafia game ever and my first game on this site.
I played my first game in over a year ago.

And yet some people are calling me alt account <_<

[Extrapolated Eagle]

my understanding from what others have said is that she's a strong player and i imagine she's capable of putting the kind of stuff on the board that she's done this game.

It's kinda funny actually. This is my second mafia game ever and my first game on this site.
I played my first game in over a year ago.

And yet some people are calling me alt account <_<

You don't talk too much but when you do it's usually to say something worth saying.

I think that goes a long way to make a decent first impression.

[RAS]

Like yeah i agree its weird and it doesnt help that dolittles missing a bunch of shit but i dont see the point in scum choosing to fake any of the shit you say hes faking
Like when jingle shoved the thing in his face dolittle responded to it
I dont think his postings all that strong here but its not rly scummy

Fair enough. While I don't think there's any benefiting factor behind the things I'm claiming DDL has faked, the posts themselves are alarming. DDL has been responding to very select posts of mine, and coincidentally enough it's all of the posts where I'm not accusing him that he's responding to. He never gives me anything to work with, other than "I would fake better than that"--which doesn't mean anything.

To respond to your awfully formatted post: DDL saw the post in Post 3059. The "i knew it if i kept repeating im not scum people would believe me" comment proves that since it was right after Jingle's unvote in Post 3058. There's nothing else that this could be referring to. I don't buy that he completely forgot that Jingle had a case on him in the previous page simply 5 posts (Post 3064) after saying that.

you're posts are not very good and i don't feel like responding. and besides, maxwell responded pretty much what i wanted to say anyways

That's gonna be a yikes from me, dude. I'm very likely not unvoting this, at this stage--unless Dannflor gets very close to being lynched, in which case I might change my vote. I'm getting way too many red flags from DDL, and it could just be the fact that he's been playing awfully as a whole, but it's getting to the point where it's just too much.

I went back and looked at this cause I initially looked at the sample when this was first brought up, but DDL was quoting the line in the rules. The rules and the sample have different wording for it. Funnily enough, DDL picked the one that helped benefited his initial comments regarding dousing/igniting the most.

tell me when you are learning how to play the game. do you look at the rules or the character cards?

I look at role PM's to figure out the roles, not the rules. Why is this relevant?

[Liger_Zero]

my understanding from what others have said is that she's a strong player and i imagine she's capable of putting the kind of stuff on the board that she's done this game.

It's kinda funny actually. This is my second mafia game ever and my first game on this site.
I played my first game in over a year ago.

And yet some people are calling me alt account <_<

Congrats

[northsidegal]

Votecount 3.6

Xtoxm(3)

~ mcqueen⁽¹⁹⁾, Vedith⁽¹⁸⁾, Prince of Renais⁽⁸⁵⁾

Dannflor(3)

~ Extrapolated Eagle⁽⁶⁸⁾, Ankamius⁽⁷³⁾, MaxwellPuckett⁽⁴⁶⁾

Ankamius(3)

~ Karmeleon⁽⁸⁷⁾, Dannflor⁽³¹⁾, DrDolittle⁽⁸⁸⁾

Vedith(2)

~ Liger_Zero⁽⁶⁰⁾, NerfedBuJ⁽²¹⁾

DrDolittle(2)

~ RAS⁽³⁹⁾, Jingle⁽⁸⁷⁾

Prince of Renais(1)

~ Xtoxm⁽²¹⁾

MaxwellPuckett(1)

~ Reiuji Utsuho⁽⁵⁷⁾


Not Voting (0):

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2019-04-05 16:49:59)

[Dannflor]

Hm that's an interesting vote count

UNVOTE:

Something is weird

Anyway, I have a lot I want to say and do. I'm just trying to figure out whether I want to do a gigantic wall post or spam the thread.

I'll probably do a few walls as that's more my style and hopefully easier to digest, despite how tempting replying to things one at a time is. I'm gonna start with a post that responds/comments on things that catch my interest since I've gone V/LA, since I've only skimmed since then. Then, I'll probably town case myself. I've seen a lot of passive support for my wagon skimming through, which means I think it's worthwhile to present a few arguments as to why I should be obviously town. I know the arguments will always hold less weight with me being the one presenting them, but I

know

I'm capable of obv towning and if I don't try my hardest to make that clear with a wagon on me then I won't be playing my best game. I'll finish up with a reads list and hopefully analyze the votes over the last 10 pages, something feels off there I'm just not sure what yet.

Oh also, I plead that people try not to get too intimidated by walls if these end up being big and read the actual words that I have to say and engage with them. Don't just look at a wall and town read me for it please

I will try to be concise.

[Dannflor]

wait enter

You said you remember rolling scum twice and being lynched D1 both times, but No Deadlines??

or are you not counting that because replacement

Yeah.
I'm not counting it because replacing in is different. Also ND was the first game I replaced in and wasn't immediately lynched and that was only because the game day had gone on for a month at that point and my predecessor was locktown

This is fair. Your play there is very different from your play here anyways, and you ended up getting lynched eventually anyway so...

If this is your scum game people will definitely have to respect you a lot more from here on out but I believe I can say with 90% confidence you're town here.

Scum have 3 ignites iirc, why not ignite N2 if it destroys town core or a dangerous player like Prince?

It's...still not a good idea.

But why? Obviously, in an ideal world mafia doesn't ignite until endgame so as to give the least amount of information possible. However, I can see scenarios where igniting early on could be beneficial to either destroy town cohesion or get rid of a particularly dangerous town leader.

Maybe it's mechanically sub-par but I don't think it's an out of the question scum strategy.

town reading because "shitton of posts" is lazy

what about the posts are town to you

this is just avoiding explaining yourself

also terrible vote

Not townreading Ank bc she had a shitton of posts
My impression of Rei questioning the read was that i wasnt allower to have any reads bc Id barely read anything. But I had read Anks posts bc shed posted a lot right then and

I thought her whole thing w Enter was p towny

That's what I'm looking for. Thank you. I glazed over that because I couldn't figure out why Ankamius was scum reading Enter to begin with, but I'll revisit it because the progression itself is interesting.

guys lets have some conviction and consolidate on a lynch.

this game is getting quagmired imo, and the enviroment feels borderline apathy (or maybe it's just me)

i want to vote alisae to save the mod from finding yet another replacement, but that slot is probs town.

This is all very towny

dannflor are you scum

no enter imma prove it to you

dannflor almost guaranteed flips sucm here

noooo you can't read me ;_; you promised you could read me

It's okay

EE/Ank jam out session exudes towniness, despite them reaching some incorrect conclusions

reading more

There's A LOT of town spew on these pages I feel

I think this game is solvable just by PoE

DDL's dumb tell isn't AI imo

Dann has this feeling of wanting to have a rapport w players and his defence of Renais felt kinda out of place at the time
Like his vote on Ank after asking if its just playstyle differences and being unable to understand her doesnt feel like a great reason for a scumread
Conclusions feel kinda surface like after I replied to him abt my ank townread he didnt rly followup or push me where id expect to be pushed
Feels kinda like not making waves??
Should put more time into this but yeah

I have been very open about wanting to have a rapport with players. My whole fucking crusade this game has been about trying to maintain town cohesion, which I think is particularly important when nearly half the playerlist has replaced out, no? Why is my defence of Renais out of place?

I had not been in the thread since you replied to me about your Ank town read. I didn't even have cell service. How do you expect me to "followup or push you where you'd expect to be pushed" if I'm literally not here.

Yuck.

if dann ends up being scum it possibly spews prince-slot as town

Why?

[Extrapolated Eagle]

noooo you can't read me ;_; you promised you could read me

my scumread on you is based on your predecessor.

your play specifically seems somewhat towny but isn't ai enough for me to think you're not scum., but i like your recent posting

[Dannflor]

The Somewhat Narcissistic Self-Towncase

Aight so I really really feel I should be conf town or close to it based off my interactions with Shoshin yesterday.

I tried really fucking hard yesterday right before Shoshin replaced out. Call it my weakness for AtE but I had an inkling Shoshin could be town, and I got very active trying to engage her and get her thoughts because even if she was going down they'd be useful to have and also because I thought if I did a good enough job I could swing the lynch elsewhere and actually steer us away from the drama that happened. Unfortunately, Shoshin still replaced out and I felt forced into voting her after that.

Below is a pruned copy of my ISO from yesterday. It begins with Shoshin at L-4, which rapidly progresses to L-3 with a Shoshin self vote. I am already on the wagon at this time. As scum I have no reason to make any of these posts and in fact should just be sitting back and hoping the lynch goes through.

Spoiler:

quote="In post 1836, Dannflor"]Shoshin, can you link a scum game or two?[/quote]

You have two completed games as scum. That's not a sizable sample size in anyway. A 0% winrate literally means nothing, it could just be an anomaly, especially in an somewhat RNG-based, team-based game like mafia is.

That's why I don't believe this AtE about always losing as scum is genuine.

Shoshin, if you're town you need to do a better job leaving your mark on the game before you're lynched. Your attempts at pushing Lycan have been half-hearted at best and obviously not very successful. If you have the energy still left for this game, build a case.

My reads haven't changed much from yesterday. I'm not lynching Vedith, DDL, or EE today unless it's me or them.

Lycan or Clem gives us the best shot of hitting scum. Gamma's still plausible scum. Xtox needs to be reevaluated given the extent of his lurking.

PR needs to be lynched if still alive at LYLO, especially if he continues to push mislynches.

At the very least, explain why Vedith and DDL are on your never-lynch list, considering they seem to be somewhat supported lynches. Like, you claim you've been scum hunting, but I don't see you actively trying to do anything today beyond feign a push towards Lycan.

I don't make cases, Dann. Remember Suka? That was me.

Oh, interesting. Hm

I don't have any energy for this game because it doesn't matter what I say or do, everyone's always just going to sheep PR.

He's given you opportunities to be involved. Aside from yourself, do you think his read/approach on the game is wildly off?

shoshin if we gave you complete control over the next two lynches who would they be?

Do you have an answer to this?

Please don't either of you

Okay, I looked through some of Grapes games. I understand the wagon now.

VOTE: Grapes

Shoshin, can you tell me why you needed to look through some of Grapes games to understand the wagon? Did you really believe his meta was a major factor behind the wagon?

Sorry for interrogating you right now especially if you're energy levels are low, but I need this and if you're town I really need this

If Lycan's town, Clem's scum. Don't think that needs explanation.

Is this because you believe one of the last votes on the Grapes wagon has to be scum? I'm dumb and might need an explanation

Vedith's town because he's defending me, period. There's no reason for scum to defend me here. And maybe Vedith isn't town, I don't know, but I'm not lynching him today because at least he's doing the pro-town thing of trying to keep me alive.

I agree with the DDL point, but I'm not following this. If you're a lynch that's probably going through anyway, as you've said yourself, Vedith loses nothing by defending you. If he's scum and you're town then he would already know this is a mislynch and is just setting himself up to not be associated with it. Plus he gets the added bonus of pocketing you since we'll be more likely to sheep your reads after a green flip.

Is scum defending you harmful here? I'd probably expect them to, or at least to feign hesitation.

FWIW, the frustration here is real. It's something I'm actually good at catching. The problem is that it's NAI.

Yea, that's my problem here too. But I'm trying not to let it interfere with my reads because I'm very susceptible to AtE which is a weakness of mine.

I don't think this should be a lynch we just push through out of apathy though or because it's easy. If this is the lynch today we have to talk about it or we aren't actually going to gain as much as you hope from the flip. I think this situation is delicate enough that scum could slip up very easily here regardless of Shoshin's alignment. Likely, scum isn't posting much at all right now and is just hoping the lynch goes through so they can hide under the radar.

Is Lycan town or scum? Everyone in this game has made me feel like I'm crazy for thinking he's scum. Am I crazy?

I think Lycan can be scum. He was one of my weaker town reads when I came in and Jingle pointed out my reasons for town reading him weren't very solid. I also don't understand why he goes after me and completely ignores commenting on the Shoshin wagon or anything. Like, it feels like it could be a vanity vote or setup for the next day.

Jingle, can you link other bored-Jingle games you've been in?

UNVOTE:

Earlier, I only voted Shoshin just to help out with whatever PR was trying to look or find.

Now I actually want her lynched regardless of her alignment just to find out which storyline fits the most from many conjectures I have about the last few pages.

that's the easy way out

it's hard

hard but possible

to figure out which conjecture is real by discussing it

play mafia

What are the chances everyone who has posted in the last several pages is town imploding on itself and scum have lurked out of the game/are hoping we destroy ourselves?

ok fine

VOTE: shoshin

this slot living might make it hard for people to play regardless so

and im not ready to quit this game just yet

So, the above consists of my consistently trying to engage with Shoshin and

work

with her that day. She came dangerously close to being lynched and I really do think I played a hand in lessening the pressure on her for a short while. People started talking about other lynches, namely Jingle—who wasn't my ideal choice but the discussion was still healthy. There's just no reason for me to go to all that trouble as scum when I could have an easy mislynch just shutting up. Like, yes. I am capable of faking big wall posts and faking analytical style reads on players as scum. I do not think I am capable of 99% of the above posts I listed.

That progression from yesterday culminates in me actually unvoting Shoshin because I thought I'd bought us enough time to continue discussion and settle on a lynch that wasn't just borne out of apathy. But then Shoshin replaced out, which really sucked. I gave up then and went back to the Shoshin wagon because it would've been twice the up hill battle it already was to convince people not to lynch that slot than it already had been to peel pressure off of it.

Like, people are saying Vedith had no good reason to be WKing Shoshin yesterday, but I feel like I actually did and encouraged a lot more there and almost turned the day around. Unfortunately, it was not to be.

But I was pro-town. Of course, because I'm pointing it out right now you can say I was just faking it. But why? I really don't have much to gain there.

Anyway, that's the main reason I'm town. That's the part of the game I've been most present for and put the most energy into, otherwise I have not been playing my best game and I do hope to fix that. There are a few other small things, like me not letting the Jingle lynch go through when it presented itself as an alternative to Shoshin yesterday, and also me

not

immediately voting Grapes when I replaced in (which I absolutely would have done as scum). But those posts revolving around Shoshin D2 spew me as town IMO and at the very least mean that I'm playing pro-town enough that I shouldn't be the lynch today over other slots.

That's all about that.

[NerfedBuJ]

If you don't want to fight, don't respond to each other. It's that simple. Mafia talk only.

[NerfedBuJ]

Votecount 3.6

Xtoxm(3)

~ mcqueen⁽¹⁹⁾, Vedith⁽¹⁸⁾, Prince of Renais⁽⁸⁵⁾

Dannflor(3)

~ Extrapolated Eagle⁽⁶⁸⁾, Ankamius⁽⁷³⁾, MaxwellPuckett⁽⁴⁶⁾

Ankamius(3)

~ Karmeleon⁽⁸⁷⁾, Dannflor⁽³¹⁾, DrDolittle⁽⁸⁸⁾

Vedith(2)

~ Liger_Zero⁽⁶⁰⁾, NerfedBuJ⁽²¹⁾

DrDolittle(2)

~ RAS⁽³⁹⁾, Jingle⁽⁸⁷⁾

Prince of Renais(1)

~ Xtoxm⁽²¹⁾

MaxwellPuckett(1)

~ Reiuji Utsuho⁽⁵⁷⁾


Not Voting (0):

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2019-04-05 16:49:59)

I now townread all of these lynchees except vedith and max.

[NerfedBuJ]

That is if my assumption that the scumteam is losing and are not efforting much.

If I have reason to suspect a deepwolf exists here then my reads will change also.

[Dannflor]

Let's do some reads. I'm excited. Because reading back the last 10 pages or so and doing my catch up post, I think we can narrow down the lynch pool enough to make hitting scum today very likely.

Using the player list in the OP for this in order to keep track of all the replacements.

Ankamius replaced Lycanfire *

- I played with Ankamius in Merchant's Daughter where she played very different from how she's playing here. That's why I initially had an averse reaction to her posting because I hadn't seen her do this style of rapid-fire posting and questioning before. Based on how I perceived her in Merchant's Daughter, she seemed more analytical and reserved. I peeked at some of her other games and realized this game is closer to her standard than my previous experience was, and is probably closer to town-indicative.

The discussion between Ank and Enter on 105 isn't faked, which means they cannot be S/S. Reading it closer, it's probably T/T. The only situation where it makes sense for scum to opt into this back and forth is if Ank is trying to pocket EE here. It's a possibility if only because of how widely town read EE is. However, it's not a progression that was forced by Ank, and I don't think you start off a pocket by null-reading somebody. This interaction specifically couldn't really have been orchestrated and that makes me think it's more likely town from Ank than scum. The mini-town jam session with Enter a couple pages later is more points for Ank town as well. In fact, I like a lot of her posts since then, reading back.

I scum read her on entrance because her questioning seemed empty and she wasn't reaching any conclusions, but I think that was a product of having to catch up. She's been following through on her lines of questioning and forming reads/conclusions from those in ways that I don't think are easily faked by scum.

Liger_Zero replaced Gamma Emerald **

- Gamma has like 3 posts before replacing out or something? I remember absolutely nothing alignment indicative from her and flaking out certainly isn't. Liger is snarky as fuck and I almost want to town read him just for that, but a few specific posts of his town pinged me.

Starting to get disinterested in this. We gonna get everyone on a wagon or something?

Towwwn. A variety of wagons is good for scum imo. Especially if they are on largely town players, which I think they are right now. I don't think scum is very likely to draw attention with a post like this, it's so blatant.

Like why am I here all scum Maxie shopping for reads when theres an entire thread of opinions i could grab for convenience
idk i feel like im pretty obvious trying to interact w people and talk abt their reads and your conclusions arent making any sense
@Liger

Because your opinions do look like they are being shopped so far? Not seeing much in terms of original thinking but I haven't been really reading your posts as of late so theres that.

Also mind melding with him on Max. I picked at Max's weird progression on me in my catch up post, but there's a lot of ??? stuff from him.

He also shuts down other wagons or at least closes them off to himself, and is pretty tunneled on Vedith. I think scum is more likely to try and leave their options open given the game state.

RAS replaced Alisae

- Snarky again but less obv town imo. His #3114 really town pings me though because it's transparent, and outlines a townie thought process for switching wagons when scum would have no reason to do so. With me being MIA from the thread, there's no real incentive for scum to not just sit on me until I at least return and respond so the switch here is unnecessary. Bonus points for reconsidering reads. Alisae replacing out because of apathy also matches er behavior from Merchant's Dance, and I believe Jingle said e tends to go hard as scum. That's only very minor town points though.

Reiuji Utsuho

- I think obviously town and I'm not going to waste time talking about this too much unless people start disagreeing. Natural progressions, good thoughts and analysis.

Somebody do me a math and tell me how many mislynches we have right now, assuming that we are one horrible horrible towngroup and keeps mislynching every day starting now while magically managing to not lynch any of the doused people.

Kinda think this is a town slip too.

NerfedBuJ

- I think this is another mostly consensus town read now, so won't case it. He is
A. tonally very town
B. much more genuine and thorough in his analysis here than he is in his scum game

MaxwellPuckett replaced Clemency *

- Already commented on a post that was pretty yuck.

Idk im out the door rn but Dannslot looks kinds like scum u just lynch eventually

I also just flat out do not understand this while in the very same post calling DDL lynch bait. Really reads like an opinion that's only there because people started thinking I was scum in the recent pages before that post.

To quote Max, a poem:

"Conclusions feel kinda
Feels kinda like not making waves??
Should put more time into this but yeah"

I think this is scum.

Jingle replaced Frozen Angel

- This is town. I want to detail this explicitly, but it might have to be tomorrow because I don't think enough of my brain cells are awake right now for that. I do think I can make a good town case for Jingle though. He just has done a lot of things that don't really make sense for scum to do.

VOTE: Xtox

ngl, I still like my other wagon and I will totes hammer there if you build it, but apparently I missed a bunch of PR posts and I can grok it.

This is one off the top of my head. I don't think there's any reason to switch to xtoxm randomly here when he was already gaining support for wagons that he'd look a lot less suspicious on. There's a lot of other reasons too but will come tomorrow.

Extrapolated Eagle

- Town.

DrDolittle

- The dumb tell/slip whatever is not alignment indicative but all his other posts heavily town spew him. He's been trying to push the game in a positive direction even if his individual play hasn't been the best. The worst part about this slot is Maxwell's associations, but I'd wait until an actual flip there to sink here.

Vedith

- Vedith is a consistently hard read for me due to his play style. I really don't think his WKing of Shoshin clears him. His play yesterday basically just consisted of saying "don't lynch Shoshin" and sheeping her, in fact he's still just sheeping her today. I don't see that as outside of his scum range and I think scum defends doomed mislynches all the time. Otherwise, I don't like his associatives with grapes nor how he reacted to me and Prince pressuring him before Shoshin flipped. I feel like he's pretty apathetic and I feel like that could come from scum!Vedith only if his partner was someone useless like Clemency.

@Vedith, how do you feel about voting Maxwell?

Prince of Renais replaced PvtUrist

- I feel like I shouldn't have to explain this. I don't think scum!Prince is ever this paranoid about getting mislynched because of leading bad wagons. The case against him is "he's a really good scum player." If that were the case, he would not have lead a wagon on his partner Day 1. I don't think that's a good plan when Prince is somewhat likely to get mislynched by a paranoid or otherwise bad town. Scum!Prince would keep his team alive, drive mislynches, and probably die before endgame but get his team into a good spot imo. That would, at least, be the mastermind scum plan, which is what people who are suspicious of him seem to be scared of.

mcqueen *

- Literally the only thing I've seen this car do is call xtoxm out for doing nothing while doing nothing himself. I've brought this up before but I hate his posts on page 55 where he votes Rei (joke or not) and completely ignores the 6 vote grapes wagon. I realize he's been sick, but he's added nothing of substance except for a quick meta on xtoxm, despite lack of content being the driving force behind his tunnel on xtoxm.

thats funny cause i havent done a catch up

referring to your pop in and updated reads

is xtoxm your top scum read?

I was waiting for Booneytoonz extravaganza to finish before I truly call out xtoxm.

He’s scum here like he was in that game.

VOTE: xtoxm

Karmeleon what do you think?

I was waiting for Booneytoonz extravaganza to finish before I truly call out xtoxm.

He’s scum here like he was in that game.

Gonna need more than that tbh

Xtoxm is a master of pretending to do shit while doing nothing. Its a playstyle that should always be pressured, regardless of alignment, especially when he actually hasn’t done much as of late.

Don't like the claim that xtoxm is scum and then reframing it as his playstyle needing to be pressured regardless of alignment. Looks like a weak attempt to look like he's casing someone/doing something.

Xtoxm *

- My experience with scum!xtoxm is him completely flaking out of the game and he hasn't done that yet so bonus points to him. His reads are bad here but he is actually efforting. I find it hard to read this slot because of the AtE with Prince.

i fooled him in LNT and his suspicion of me here just kinda feels genuine
i think both scum are in
liger, rei, dann, jingle, ddl, prince

Idk Im townreading rei and prince and kinda dolittle too
Couldnt scum mcqueen rly easily cite meta on you to push you
Its kindve an unexpected read to me since you just said his meta was bad

town apply meta badly very often tho, it doesnt make him scum
it makes sense for him to be initially sus imo
if he just sits on the tunnel, does nothing else and never reconsiders then perhaps he is scum

This town pings me though.

Don't feel super big vibes either way with xtoxm. Max flip might incriminate him.

Karmeleon *

Karmeleon's catch up around the time I left is obv town. There's no reason for scum to go to such lengths anyway because Karmeleon was getting away just fine with being town read and not doing much at all. From a scum position, that burst of activity could be saved for a much later stage of the game.

[Dannflor]

So my lynch preference is:

Maxwell >> mcqueen >> Vedith >> xtoxm

If Maxwell flips scum I think xtoxm or (possibly) DDL becomes likelier

If Maxwell were to flip town I think scum lies in mcqueen/Vedith

VOTE: Maxwell

[Vedith]

in fact he's still just sheeping her today

This is false.
At least see where I'm voting before posting this kind of stuff.

[Dannflor]

Votecount 3.6

Xtoxm(3)

~ mcqueen⁽¹⁹⁾, Vedith⁽¹⁸⁾, Prince of Renais⁽⁸⁵⁾

Dannflor(3)

~ Extrapolated Eagle⁽⁶⁸⁾, Ankamius⁽⁷³⁾, MaxwellPuckett⁽⁴⁶⁾

Ankamius(3)

~ Karmeleon⁽⁸⁷⁾, Dannflor⁽³¹⁾, DrDolittle⁽⁸⁸⁾

Vedith(2)

~ Liger_Zero⁽⁶⁰⁾, NerfedBuJ⁽²¹⁾

DrDolittle(2)

~ RAS⁽³⁹⁾, Jingle⁽⁸⁷⁾

Prince of Renais(1)

~ Xtoxm⁽²¹⁾

MaxwellPuckett(1)

~ Reiuji Utsuho⁽⁵⁷⁾


Not Voting (0):

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2019-04-05 16:49:59)

I think this VC just feels so off because it's a lot of town pushing town IMO. Especially if xtoxm is town, scum probably feel good about having such a wide lynch pool. Even if he's scum, there are enough possible counter wagons that he's gotta feel safe.

I think Maxwell/Clemency slot is best lynch today. I was hesitant yesterday because it gave little information, but with Maxwell's posting it spews some about other players depending on his flip. Thoughts?

[Dannflor]

in fact he's still just sheeping her today

This is false.
At least see where I'm voting before posting this kind of stuff.

yes yes you're voting xtoxm now I'm sorry

Point is still, you're putting in a bare minimum effort today and I don't quite understand where your apathy is stemming from

Also no idea if you're voting xtoxm because you actually even think he's scum or not

It's like pulling teeth trying to get you to contribute reads/content and I know you can do better than that and I'm struggling with the town motivation behind your play rnow

[Xtoxm]

hes not sheeping sho tho is he
we had identified each other as town

[Xtoxm]

i like how you manage to have exclusively lynchbaity slots as scumreads
very nice

[Dannflor]

hes not sheeping sho tho is he
we had identified each other as town

He was earlier in the day

not anymore apparently

[Dannflor]

i like how you manage to have exclusively lynchbaity slots as scumreads
very nice

I think I have good reasons to town read the other slots and I don't think that alone is cause enough for major concern

if you have problems with specific reads or logic then engage with that please, don't blanket discredit because you don't like how it feels

[Vedith]

Point is still, you're putting in a bare minimum effort today and I don't quite understand where your apathy is stemming from

I mean, if you don't notice my change of vote then are you honestly going to notice if I put effort into today?