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Post Post #688 (isolation #0) » Mon May 30, 2011 3:16 am

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IH wrote:I don't know if you guys payed any attention to songs of the summoned, but my very good friend Alex (Raventessen) made this song, and won one of the grand prizes. I believe he bought riot singed with his prize.

He also won the costume contest with a singed costume.... who are his most played champs? Cho, AP kogmaw, and as of late Sona.


Ftr, this song is amazing.

Oh hi guys. I've been on RayFrost lately, but I've got a level 18 account that's named VoidenBlaze as well. I'm essentially terrible with everybody but annie, who I'm mediocre at.
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Post Post #690 (isolation #1) » Mon May 30, 2011 3:41 am

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I recall that being when I was level 5, had started the game two days ago, and was playing with you level 20+ people in five man premades.

HMMM.

Not to mention I have a more recent experience with cyberbob & co. where I actually did quite fine in my first time as alistar. You weren't there, though.

Edit: did I mention cyberbob
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Post Post #701 (isolation #2) » Mon May 30, 2011 4:43 pm

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[redacted: responding to your negative comments]

Actually, how about we settle on a very, very simple solution. You guys ignore me, I ignore you, and we simply don't play in the same games. I'll go with other scummers. That way, you don't have to deal with my oh so terrible play that costs you guys every game but I still get to play with the individuals in a community that I enjoy. That and we keep the quantity of threadshitting argument to a minimum.
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Post Post #705 (isolation #3) » Mon May 30, 2011 5:40 pm

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I prefer annie, myself.

Her buff was rather ridiculous, though. They didn't shave off enough from her base damage. Even in a roughly even game, her abilities will be doing around 400+ in damage before resistances (not counting any runes you might have to boost her even further / better builds than what I go with), and tibbers will be doing 100/sec. It's nice that they gave her the strength to scale into late game as something other than a stun whore, but they really overdid it.

Edit: after talking with hito, annie's just powerful at my level of play due to the fact nobody buys defensive items like... ever. Not a ridiculous buff.
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Post Post #713 (isolation #4) » Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:00 pm

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Axle is MoS.

Also:

I never played vayne, but I dealt with vayne's a lot in lane. Most everybody got phantom dancer, infinity edge, and black cleaver: is the main reason that infinity edge is purchased the passive more than the other stuff? Been wondering about the worth of stacking infinity edges compared to going with more unique items on AD carries in general that have strong AS already. Not really vane relevant, but the vayne talk reminded me of this.
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Post Post #734 (isolation #5) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:04 pm

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Zilean seems like a rather amazing support with his ult, speed buff/debuff, and ability to spam his bombs for early game harass. Late-game, he'll have quite a bit of healing on his ult to save people with (about 2:1 ratio on his ult, IIRC?), and the bombs start to hurt a lot in team fights. I suppose Janna's knock up and ult would be more useful in general but I think zilean's still a good support with some damage output with his q.
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Post Post #736 (isolation #6) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:12 pm

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I think the reason Brand isn't used that often is the fact he's reliant on his stun for great combo power. People don't really like having to rely on one skill to be super awesome with stuff. I mean, he's pretty good, but the fact he has to get his skill shot q off to make him as effective as other champs makes him rather iffy. I suppose in a team fight his ult would be supremely powerful in combination with pllar then conflag to make everybody ignited, but he is rather lacking in true CC while the higher tier magess (anivia / malz) have CC along with good AP ratios.

But I don't really know much, so I could be wrong.
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Post Post #748 (isolation #7) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:52 am

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I think more people would pay for different map types over new champs.
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Post Post #761 (isolation #8) » Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:56 pm

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Trynd and Swain are even more annoying in lane (mostly swain, though trynd's ult mean you can't really kill him at all unless he's dumb for the early game stuff): swain being practically impossible to harass after level 6, since he's got dat heal, and trynd being possible to harass but also having a rather decent heal that makes it somewhat nullified.
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Post Post #797 (isolation #9) » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:03 pm

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kiwieagle wrote:Also rayfrost...
what was wrong with my annie build?
I freakin pubstomped
16-5-20


I don't remember your exact build, but I can tell from looking at your match history just now that you're builds are off: rylai's crystal scepter is really one of the less useful AP items on annie. She has an AoE stun. Nobody that you can kill will be getting away. Only her q is a single target ability, meaning you get a minimal slow that really doesn't do much when the stun will actually last longer than the slow itself. You're better off getting a rod of ages earlier, meaning its benefits come into effect faster, and save the money you spent there on a deathcap.

Opening with doran's ring is probably less effective on Annie than the normal caster, since you really shouldn't need the mana regen (her q is a free farming ability, and her abilities are all rather cheap mana-wise), and nobody fucks with Annie enough that she needs that extra health. Even before level 6, her stun means she has free harass that's stronger than anybody that tries to get a one off shot on her. People need to be damn sure they want to pick a fight with you or that you're stun isn't up before they go for it, and you're stun should pretty much always be at around 4 so you can just pop molten shield and then stun without any worries. Those with longer range might be annoying (lux), but health pots and simply avoiding the attacks solves it. Ganks are still naturally an issue, but I find it really easy to escape them and they really shouldn't happen with a kill on you unless you're *really* overextended (in which case that extra health won't mean anything either).

After rushing RoA, getting deathcap before archangel's is a good idea (though obv you should have boots2 first). As before, annie really doesn't need a lot of mana to do her job, an RoA provides enough of a boost to that anyway. And I see that in one of your games you rushed a... thornmail. I don't know what the enemy team comp was like, but I'm not sure I approve of the decision, but keep in mind that her molten shield is probably going to be doing quite a sizable amount of damage once you get some AP.

Also consider getting void staff before archangel's if they're getting MR, etc.
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Post Post #814 (isolation #10) » Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:51 pm

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1v1?

*does not understand*


Two people fight it out in mid. First to get first blood or destroy a turret wins.

The people on the sides are commentators and also there to prevent any destruction of side turrets.
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Post Post #953 (isolation #11) » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:26 pm

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lichbane is just so bad on teemo.

Seriously. He has *no* spammable abilities unless you're holding onto three mushrooms to throw down pointlessly in a fight. Even then, you're still not going to be pric'ing it at sufficient levels to make it worth the gold cost. Nashor's is nice in general on teemo (imo), since it gives him cdr, as, and AP.

I personally tend to wait on deciding between merc treads / zerkers based on how much CC is getting thrown on top of me.
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Post Post #966 (isolation #12) » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:10 pm

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Tank: Not really good with any, but I'm a decent alistar
AD: Ashe
AP: Annie
Jungler: I don't have the runes for jungling at the moment.
Beefy dps: Xin, I guess? I never really play this role.
Support: Soraka/Janna with a possible Nidalee if I get good with her.

I mostly love support. I don't really enjoy playing carries, so I tend to fill the role of tank/support when I'm premade. I never trust the people in solo queue enough for me to go support, so I tend to end up playing one of my standard carries or trying out new champs.
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Post Post #1016 (isolation #13) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:11 pm

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Morthas wrote:
Espeonage wrote:Btw. anyone else get those shit talkers that literally know nothing of how to play with other humans?

Pfft, what? Nope.


Because he's one of them.
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Post Post #1018 (isolation #14) » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:03 am

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I know, I've played with him.

By the way, kinda happy fnatic won. They earned it.
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Post Post #1049 (isolation #15) » Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:54 pm

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Just had the extreme pleasure of having a nunu on my team that failed in jungle (dying to blue at level 1
with a leash
and then later dying to red) and then failed for the rest of the game (~40 minutes in and still level 15... everybody else was 18 by that point, and he hadn't even died as much as our janna). Was very, very frustrating. If we had someone competent instead of that nunu, the roughly even game would've been a win instead. Sigh.
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Post Post #1057 (isolation #16) » Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:33 pm

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xRECKONERx wrote:So I'm a bit lost on what all the different unit roles are, exactly... I've been playing Sivir as more of a big damage dealer to minions but not to champs, but I'm not sure what "class" or "role" she fits. I want to start practicing and playing around with a champion in each different unit role so I can see what position I like best.


Siv's a really, really strong lane pusher late game. You can push through towers while your team is fighting on the other side of the map and get a sizable advantage that way. Her "class" would be AD carry, but how she operates in that role is probably beyond my ability to say, as I can't play her worth a damn.

For different types of things...:

AD carries: trynd, ashe, corki, siv, miss fortune, caitlyn, yi etc
AP carries: malzahar, anivia, morgana, annie, fiddlesticks, etc
Tanks: amumu, singed, rammus, shen, alistar, etc
Junglers: amumu, rammus, warwick, udyr, nunu, etc
Support: soraka, sona, zilean, janna, orianna, lux, nidalee, etc

How you play the champs in each "class" is different, but their main objectives are pretty much the same. The carries kill shit, the tanks make sure the carries can kill shit, and the supports make sure the team is alive / buffed / the enemies are debuffed to extend the killing shit / enabling period. You definitely do
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I'd recommend trying to expand to some of the other AD carries and then creeping along the list. Ashe and corki are, from my understanding, top tier AD carries. Only try a support role when you've got people you know won't be terrible and waste your efforts (aka being in a premade). Since I kinda specialize with being a support player, my best advice would be for those roles, but I'm sure the others here can give better advice in general.
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Post Post #1059 (isolation #17) » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:43 pm

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One of the more prime examples of an "anti-carry" is poppy. Chrono's favorite champion.
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Post Post #1129 (isolation #18) » Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:34 am

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Well, two philos for just the regen doesn't seem the most efficient way now that the gp5 effect is unique. It won't help with the farm issue, and getting a heart of gold might be a better gp5 option unless you're turning your first philo directly into a eleisa's and then getting the second.
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Post Post #1191 (isolation #19) » Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:24 am

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Chronopie wrote:Were you playing "Support" Kayle, or "Hybrid-DPS" Kayle?

I'd have to say Myself | Izzy | Peg | ??? | ???. (Ankamius isn't bad, maybe Shanba, and a few others.)

Dram still has a way to go. And time to learn. Singer plays ok
when sober
. Quadz isn't bad. Shotty is about Dram's level, from what I've seen. Neither would make the five atm.
Still <3 Plushie btw.


I think hito would be a good addition, he knows his stuff. Dram's a damn good player for someone new-ish to it, but he's still new-ish to it and doesn't quite play his champions the way they fit into their role (backdooring with mummy comes to mind).

Agreed that ankamius isn't bad, little experience with the others.

Chrono, I'd like to see you play a champion not named poppy sometime. No doubt you're a pretty stellar poppy, but what about other champions?

Also: I still find myself only really feeling comfortable when I'm playing support (specifically one of these three: zilean, janna, soraka). I
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Post Post #1193 (isolation #20) » Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:32 am

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Arguing about what?
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Post Post #1221 (isolation #21) » Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:33 pm

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Guys, I find that I can only really play support well, and this obviously doesn't work in solo queue. I can manage an okay AP tf, but I'm otherwise not that good with non-support champions. Do you have any advice for picking some easier to control AD / AP carries and other workable solo queue champions? I want to expand my skillset a bit further and am not really sure on where to start.
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Post Post #1247 (isolation #22) » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:11 pm

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Try playing on twisted treeline if that's what you find boring about the game.

Two bot, one top, with quite often a 3v3 level one fight at bot, etc.
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Post Post #1276 (isolation #23) » Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:20 pm

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I think otolia's posts are things to be ignored.

Doing really, really well is dependent on more than just your own skill level. Forces that you have little control over can have a large impact on your ability to actually be useful (i.e.: if the rest of your team feeds, you're fucked even if you play brilliantly). Playing well is not indicated by the kills/deaths/assists score, so if you're using that as a metric stop. What I've found is that good play is dependent on things that make it easier for your
team
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to do well. Positioning, communication, placing down wards, making sure that you initiate if you're the tank, sacrificing yourself to save a more valuable teammate, moving with your team when it comes to things like dragon and baron, backdooring and split pushing (even if it means dying to get that damn inhib tower down) if it matches your role, etc. If you're paying attention to these things, you're probably doing quite well.

Since I tend to play tanks / supports, my efficacy is highly dependent on my teammates. Even if I do a good job, having teammates that don't make use of it makes it worthless. Similar things like your tank making sure you live when you're a carry can change you seeming to have done super amazing to suddenly having been bad when it had nothing to do with you. Similarly, having a lot of unnecessary deaths but then being a carry and as a result getting a shitton of kills to make a "positive" score doesn't mean you did well. This is why the kils / deaths / assists don't really matter when it comes to determining ability.
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Post Post #1343 (isolation #24) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:26 pm

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So am I doing fine for a jungler rune page with 9/9 arpen reds, 9/9 armor yellows, and 2 arpen quints? I don't really what would be good for my blues, so I've left them alone for the moment.

Also: support runes. Cdr is probably important buuuut... what else?
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Post Post #1500 (isolation #25) » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:54 am

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Against a team with even marginal CC, you'll want to drop swiftness / serkers and go for merc treads. They'll give you some mr *and* reduce dat cc duration. Means anivia poppy, teemo, kayle, and amumu's assorted CC (their entire team had a stun/slow, stun, blind, slow, stun/snare in order of CC stuff, so yeah) will be (slightly) less trollzy.
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Post Post #1550 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:53 pm

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TheButtonmen wrote:Soraka's silence lasts approximatly 8.7 years.

Also today was the day of awful random Kayles.


Pretty sure Sona's silence is eternal.

When it comes to "offensive" support, you'll want to look at lux or orianna, but they aren't really great
support
options since they're in the line between being mages and being supports (they *really* want to be ze burst damage gods and sacrifice support capability for that extra damage output). For actual support-y supports, sona/soraka are solid baselines. Soraka was my first support, and I found her pretty easy to pick up. If you just want generically solid supports, janna/soraka/sona/zilean are all pretty good (zilean's a bit of an aggressive support but most of his stuff is utility). Karma's probably another option, but I don't have any real experience with her.

When it comes to tanks, rammus is a pretty solid pick. Amumu and singed are also good, but I think singed is the hardest one to get a grip on.
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Post Post #1595 (isolation #27) » Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:37 am

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inHimshallibe wrote:Is jungling possible at low summoner levels? Kinda want to buy Fiddle and Olaf.

edit: found the answer, but I still want some Fiddleownage. Gonna buy him.


I have successfully jungled with some champs at low levels, but you can't do the big minion camps until later than usual. That said, lane fiddlesticks is fine (not as good as jungle, but still not *bad*).
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Post Post #1638 (isolation #28) » Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:42 pm

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Why lose gold selling it for different boots? They had some bothersome CC in the form of kayle slow, karthus slow, and phage slow, even if you're ignoring the potential for a ww ult. The mr isn't bad, and the cc reduction is hardly
bad
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Post Post #1701 (isolation #29) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:56 pm

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Panzerjager wrote:ARAM?


All random all mid.

It's a player-made game set where you set a custom game on summoner's rift to automatically randomize the champion selection process (still giving time to set summoner spells / masteries / runes). After the game starts, all players go to mid lane, and the teams duke it out.

The rules state you can't go b, can't buy snowball items (examples: mejai's soulstealer, sword of the occult), and can't jungle. You essentially stick to a mid lane brawl.
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Post Post #1706 (isolation #30) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:15 pm

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I'm /in as well.
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Post Post #1748 (isolation #31) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:08 am

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Panzerjager wrote:any advice on playing melee dudes? I get sooo underleveled and ctrushed when I use them.


Really depends on 1) which melee dudes and 2) what exactly the other team contains.

If you're playing someone like tryndamere / yi / similar melee AD carry, you want to try and move in last hit a minion, move out (or alpha strike as yi) to avoid getting harassed too much. If you're finding you can't get any last hits from harass, just stay near the back of the minion wave to soak up xp. The only reason you should become underleveled is your eating harass and then getting forced b / killed. Best solution is to stay back more and play a more passive game or to charge up to them and harass back (former is more recommended unless you're *really* sure you can handle a fight).

Aside from that, try to play around with using your skills to get farm if you've got any ranged ones or using blinks (katarina's shunpo, tryndamere's spin) to get away after last hitting a couple of minions. Primary thing is to not just sit there eating their attacks. You get one or two minion kills then you back up, if you've got an inbuilt heal (yi, tryndamere being most prominent examples in my mind), don't be afraid to use it to heal back from harass.

Also: if you're playing a melee tank, don't stress over getting last hits. Focus on sticking to experience range and harassing whenever possible.

Overall: Just stay back and level if you're too afraid to try and get gold from last hitting. Consider using any ranged skills you've got to get your last hits for you instead of going for the auto attack kill.

All the advice I can give, I'm sure others can improve on this.
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Post Post #1757 (isolation #32) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:52 pm

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Panzerjager wrote:Yeah I though I was just having issues as squishy guys like Yi, but I just got owned as Sion last night, So i'll try to stay in range xp range and not get harassed. I'm starting to get pretty passable as ranged characters but by melee ability is truly lacking. I'll try this and see if I get better


With sion, you can really do a lot of damage if you're building AP. At level two, you can pull up your shield stun an enemy, run up and pop your shield, and then walk away. It's a lot of damage, and you can decide if you want to use your shield for that or just stun for free harass.
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Post Post #1858 (isolation #33) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:09 pm

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That smack talk makes Zeph look almost as bad as shotty when it comes to talking-about-the-game.

Zeph's still a pretty chill guy to actually play with. Haven't dealt with any non-chill scummer play, in all honesty. Maybe I'm just around for the good games?
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Post Post #1862 (isolation #34) » Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:47 pm

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I meant it more as "zeph's apparent personality is almost as endearing as shotty's" than a comment about the play levels of anybody involved. Just saying zeph looks like a douche, but he isn't. Just like you seem to be an annoying brat, but you aren't
too
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Anyway, congrats on reaching 30.etc. Now you're a big kid.

Also: does anybody else find jax and singed to be rather ridiculous on twisted treeline? Singed moreso than jax, but I feel jax gets a worthy mention.
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Post Post #1883 (isolation #35) » Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:37 pm

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Pops is kirbyhero in game, but he hasn't been playing at all lately.

Your (?) ones are mostly correct (I don't know about brutal, though).
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Post Post #1885 (isolation #36) » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:11 pm

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Skarner's ultimate for most op in the game?

Essentially a free kill at 6 on anybody without qss / being gangplank due to >ult >flash into tower >q slow. Combine with an allied stunner of any kind and ggnore.
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Post Post #1904 (isolation #37) » Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:54 am

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You could read his sig:

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Post Post #1964 (isolation #38) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:20 am

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Espeonage wrote:
Hands off. Like seriously. I get really offended when people play Annie and they are worse than me. It makes me both happy and sad that this happens fairly often.

Try Veigar. He annoys me but is similar. Although, make sure you aren't outlaned in mid by Rammus. Been there done that.


Don't listen to this guy: keep playing annie if you want.

I personally don't tend to go above 300 latency on the NA servers, but I average around 12 fps and 120-140 latency at all times except when my graphics card farts and drops me to a black screen for four seconds, after which I tend to suffer ~4 fps for another ten before being back to normal (roughly 2-4 black screens per game = fun times).

EU west is weird, though. Average 400-500 latency. Same number of black screens, fewer fps problems.
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Post Post #1970 (isolation #39) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:46 am

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The assist bounty thing s something that seems like it might be a good idea, but I'm not entirely sure about it. It'd really need to have a lower average bounty than the killing spree ending, but keeping in mind the decrease on said killing spree bounty's max, the gold seems like it'd be negligible overall.

Also: In about 30 minutes to an hour, I'll be on league. Invs will be welcome.
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Post Post #2013 (isolation #40) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:06 pm

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Espeonage wrote:I was going to make a spreadsheet on google docs saying who people were and what champs they play most often.


Champs I play most often (when wanting to actually win): Soraka, Janna, Zilean, any of the free week supports

Champs I play most often (when having fun): AP Shaco, any champ I've yet to play, jungle yi
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Post Post #2015 (isolation #41) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:12 pm

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Quaroath wrote:Poppy sucks the marrow from the bones of pentakilled teams.

(They see me trolling, the forums...)


FTFY (finished that for you).
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Post Post #2023 (isolation #42) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:32 pm

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First game as galio, went up against (Ad) shaco and janna in lane with a wukong. Most of their team was ap. End of game, orianna said "gg gaylio." Galio's fun. Rape all laning phase, np.
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Post Post #2154 (isolation #43) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:12 pm

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Espeonage wrote:Hmm the Soraka changes look interesting. Having played alot of Soraka recently they seem like decent changes.


There's numerous issues with the changes, but I think the primary one is that the nerfs they're doing are actually contrary to their stated goal.

They say they want to make late game healing more powerful but then do the exact opposite by nerfing the shit out of soraka's ratios. The only time a support's likely to get any ap is late game, so ap ratio cuts are just horrible. Overall, soraka's no longer going to be viable after these changes. Guess it's time I get the ip to pick up karma....
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Post Post #2266 (isolation #44) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:18 am

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I'll play any type of game to help teach. It's something I do as a hobby, anyway.
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Post Post #2353 (isolation #45) » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:03 pm

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Brandi wrote:So I really really like Annie but I'm not too great with her. If anyone know of any good guides I should read about for her... or just the game in general, that would be helpful~ Because even though I'd love to play with most of you, you are all at or near level 30 and so I feel more accomplished being able to get a couple kills in noob games than maybe pulling off an assist and trying to die less than 10 times with all you pro's <_<;


I'd link some guides that I found on a quick search, but they all recommend mejai's soulstealer, which I feel is not at all a good item choice, so yeah.

I
can
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When it comes to playing annie specifically, a main thing is to use disintegrate (her q) as a last hit on minions. Since you get the mana back on each kill it's equivalent to an auto attack and makes farming gold
much
easier. Her ult is a really, really great way to make use of your passive stun, as it's got the largest area of effect / longest effective range of her spells. Don't forget to use alt + right click to control tibbers. Even after you've casted and someone has seemingly gotten away in a fight, you can alt + right click to send tibbers after them. This is actually an effective tool in lane if you miss a kill with your combo, as tibbers is essentially free harass and can sometimes even finish particularly low champions.

Even if you don't have tibbers for the stun ,using your w is also fine. Both of them are AoE, meaning it's possible to get multiple enemies (and in team fights you should be focusing on getting the more-than-one stun and then blowing up a squishy champion whenever possible). Also consider alternative uses for your stun other than offense: if you see a nunu charging his ult or katarina casting her ult, you should stun them asap, even if you have to use your q to do it.

When it comes to overall playstyle, I tend to play a more last-hit focused annie until about level 4, but you should feel free to act aggressively in lane before then. Charging up your stun and then using it on the enemy champ(s) for essentially free harass is an effective tool in lane. At level 6, annie has pretty much complete lane dominance against most, and you should abuse this. Charge up your stun and then push the opponents away from minions in fear of getting stunned, chase to have them pop a summoner's spell when you have no intention of blowing up on them, and slowly edge their hp down to the point where you can jump on them.

I happen to be a lover of annie even if I've not played her lately, so this is my generic advice regarding her.

Also: you should give us your summoner name, brandi. We can at least add you in game even if you don't want to play until you're better. Aside from that, I'm pretty sure most of us are even willing to play against bots to help you improve.
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Post Post #2427 (isolation #46) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:48 pm

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AD Carry
: Yi, Ashe, Urgot
AP Carry
: Annie, Fiddlesticks, Twisted Fate
Bruiser
: Urgot, Xin, (potentially) warwick
Tank
: Amumu, Cho'gath (on free week), Alistar
Off Tank
: Taric(?)
Jungler
: Warwick, Yi
Support
: Sona, Soraka, Taric, Janna, Nidalee, Zilean
Assassin
: Twisted Fate, Xin
Anti-Carry
: Urgot
Pushers
: TF, Nid, Yi

Now, if you want a list of the ones I play
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Support:
Soraka, Taric, Janna
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Post Post #2465 (isolation #47) » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:53 pm

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Level up or play with us "big kids"
Play better people
???
Profit

Pretty sure this is how it'd work out.
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Post Post #2472 (isolation #48) » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:00 pm

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Nexus wrote:
singersigner wrote:
Chronopie wrote:I can play under my Alt if you want someone closer by in level. [Greyscale Aeon - Level 9 atm]
Yeah, I'm gunna make a smurf account to play with her some more. : ) Yay! We can all start over!! :P


Oooh ooh could I maybe play I'm still only level 7? :D


Join us, young padawan. Best way to do so is actually giving us your summoner name, as I don't recall you doing so.

Though my lowest is 16, I'm sure that's not
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Edit: yay patching has 30 minutes left... an hour after I started it
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Post Post #2474 (isolation #49) » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:06 pm

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I have less than 300 wins on my 30. I don't even have 200.

Do I qualify for potential playing partner, hascow?
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Post Post #2487 (isolation #50) » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:41 am

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Espeonage wrote:OH HO HO.

I think I found my calling. You may now refer to me as Cho'God the unkillable bastard tank of awesome supportness.

Went 6/0/12. Which is good and all but. I also took the most damage for the team. I also had the least farm on the team because I had to lane with an Ezreal. I think that is the sign of an epic game. He is just so ... cool. So tempted to put money on. I wanteth gentleman cho.


I was there. T'was an awesome sight to behold. He got fat and sassy and sassed all game, allowing ez and myself (urgot) to rip their team in half.

P-edit: Nexus, linderfrost = me, if you've been wondering who that strange person trying to add you is.
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Post Post #2567 (isolation #51) » Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:04 am

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manho wrote:i'm at level 25, and no one playing jungler or tank here. my malphite can't jungle well, so any suggestion for a jungling tank?


Cho'gath / rammus / amumu are all valid jungling tanks. The most popular one of the bunch is amumu, I think. For actual routes and the like, I recommend stonewall for all your rune and route needs. He's essentially jungled every champion in the game and put it on youtube. Others can provide more resources, though. I'm not a good one for that.
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Post Post #2588 (isolation #52) » Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:59 pm

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The most impressive thing from that image for me was zarxes getting exactly 12k gold. (because chrono ripping things is par for the course)

Also:
malady
on janna? I don't even...
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Post Post #2623 (isolation #53) » Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:03 am

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pickemgenius wrote:
Espeonage wrote:fuck i hate my ELO. Noobs. EVERYWHERE. Like seriously. You don't towerdive a full health Talon as Jax. You don't start blue as Shaco. You don't build Lee Son tank when there is a Cho on your team.


1. idk you can(situational)
2. um you certainly can.
3. atmogs is super standard on lee sin.


not sure where you were going with this. ^_^


Not sure I'd agree with towerdive talon as jax. Talon stealth makes tower dives that aren't *superfast* ineffective. Jax can't be superfast on a ful health target.

I think brandon needs to complain about play quality instead of jungling / build stuff.
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Post Post #2626 (isolation #54) » Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:05 am

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pickemgenius wrote:Talon cant kill a jax with all his shit, and after all his shit is on cd its gg, youre never going to be right clicking him as talon or you're asking to die faster.

If I see a 2k health talon alone, and I see his teammates are on the map, I as Jax, with like 3500 health, 30+% dodge, like 100 somethin armor, and mr pre ult, then yes I'll dive the fuck out of a Talon, because resistances are low priority in a Talon build, and once he's blown all of his abilities(which won't kill you) he's useless.


I think you're missing the part about it being a tower dive. Talon won't kill your ass, but his tower will rip your shit while you're waiting for him to pop out of stealth, and that's assuming he even stays in touch instead of using that shit to gtfo.
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Post Post #2718 (isolation #55) » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:01 pm

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I suck too. We can all suck together. We can be the collaboration for fun sucking... or something.
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Post Post #2722 (isolation #56) » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:48 pm

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Amrun wrote:
xRECKONERx wrote:Amrun, I suck too. Can we get better together?


Yes!

Launching now.

My username is Amrun. Friend, me, all and teach me the way! I am a total newb.

Although my boyfriend is like magically good at all games and he is supposed to teach me.


We're going to need your
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Post Post #2733 (isolation #57) » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:15 am

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No guarantee you'll be suspended for it. Possible but not guaranteed. I've been reported before, no suspension from it.
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Post Post #2837 (isolation #58) » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:15 pm

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Username: RayFrost
Main Alt: VoidenBlaze
Main Champs: Janna, Taric, Nidalee
Preferred Lane/Area: Duo lane with an AD carry on bot or solo top with nid
Base Builds:
Janna - philo, hog, lucidity, defense item of whichever's killing me most, aegis if someone else isn't building it, wardshit, never get further
Taric - basically read janna
Nidalee - lichbane, deathcap, rageblade, lucidity/sorc (depends on whether support or damage is necessary), defense item of whichever's killing me most, wardshit
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Post Post #2887 (isolation #59) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:03 pm

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xRECKONERx wrote:I need some help refining my Garen/Corki builds.

I'm usually playing Garen in a duo lane and going solo mid with Corki.

Garen I usually just build AD as fast as possible.


Garen is tanky dps, so keep this in mind with your build. You want *some* damage, but the most important thing is to be tanky with your dps. You aren't meant to be doing 400 damage nukeshots with every hit. You're meant to be taking 400 damage nukeshots in the face while laughing them off since they're really only 200 with all your resistances and oh yeah you've got 3k health. And then you kill their things.

Some (imo) good items for garen are: frozen mallet (health, free slow proc, and ad, all things you want), merc treads (tenacity op), sunfire cape (health and armor, you're in the middle of skirmishes anyway so the passive is huge), force of nature (moar survivability + ms boost), atma's impaler (you're getting huge health amounts anyway, turn it into some ad), randuin's omen (armor item to counter large quantities of auto-attack).

This isn't necessarily a *build* guide on him, but these are all solid items. I tend to open doran's shield, get boots + giant's belt in my first one or two backs, and then get the resistance item of choice against whoever hurts more in lane (negatron / chain). Sunfire cape out of the belt if I need more survivability or mallet if I need to kill things. Then I get the other one later. Most games end before I get any further, but I'm typically at ~2.5k+ hp with over 100 mr and armor thanks to the passive on garen's w.

To be honest, I think garen can go more for health based survivability than other champions due to the w, making it potentially goodplay to be a bit like lee sin and go atmog's. I'd still say the above build is solid, but you can play around with other items.

Key gameplay point to remember with garen is the fact you've got the ability to essentially kick the shit out of any squishies on the enemy team and not give a damn. In a team fight, make a beeline toward their 1.5k hp ashe and tear her a new smile. You'll likely get some focus but turn on your w and continue to spin to win all over her face. She'll be so busy running away from your huge sword that she won't be doing damage. And you want to be focused anyway so the fact they're blowing half their total cooldowns to stop you going to town will give your team plenty of opportunity.

Necessary anecdote: I was garen, sf cape, frozen mallet, merc treads, doran's shield, ~3k hp and over 100 mr and armor. Team fight broke out and I ran toward their mf and tore at her, she had to run, and katarina tried to help save her (via killing me), leaving it a 4v3 in mid lane where the rest were fighting. I killed mf thanks to ultophuehue, and then chased katarina down from almost full health (she was full at the time I was attacking the half health mf, but spin to win and sf cape procs, etc) to dead while my team had already cleaned up. Aced, got baron, won the game. If mf and katarina had been in the team fight, their ults would've been a real pain in the arse, but instead we got a 5 for 1 exchange.

When it comes to key build points, remember that you are not meant to be a squishy little glass cannon like ashe or miss fortune. You're meant to take a beating and dish out a beating. Survivability is
crucial
for any tanky dps champion. I've seen people play lee sin and be all like "wahh I do nothing" because their items were... infinity edge and a phantom dancer. If you melt before you can do damage, your hueg dps won't be so hueg.

Edit: I'd like it if the better players could correct / expand on anything I said. I wanna learn toooo.
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Post Post #2890 (isolation #60) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:00 pm

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Also:

I fucking love jungle lee sin. Been doing this runeless on EU nordic. I love it. LEE SIN MUST BE PURCHASED.
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Post Post #2899 (isolation #61) » Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:59 am

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Trinity force on caitlyn? No. IE, a defensive item, or other such things. Cait doesn't need the ap and lacks the ability to proc the sheen very effectively. Better off getting frozen mallet with the phage for a better slow, etc..
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Post Post #3026 (isolation #62) » Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:19 pm

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xRECKONERx wrote:@MoS: Is that list of junglers only if you have proper runes/masteries? Like, Warwick was fine and easy to use in jungle without a bunch of runes/masteries, but I tried Lee Sin and got pwned.


I can tell you that jungle lee sin can be done without any runes, as I've done it successfully (and quickly compared to most non-setup champs I've tried) with only 9 mastery points. The key thing is to know the jungle route and skill order. Starting off with w provides you natural sustain through your entire jungle, which really makes the difference between having a rough time and getting through alright.

A
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Typical item order is cloth + five health pots, turned into wriggle's (usually get boots after madred's and then get wriggle's), warmog's, atma's, then either frozen mallet if I'm not taking much damage or negatron / chain depending on which is hurting more into force of nature or randuin's later for each.

My route's typically double golems (using smite at the start to make that faster, as I usually don't get a leash), wolves, wraiths (planning for smite to be up by this point, since it was used early on double golems), b, get a couple wards (possibly boots, though I prefer to get razors beforehand), clear again while warding the key points (dragon, jungle entry/exit points, etc).

With lee sin in general, I prioritize w -> q -> e. One point in e at level two and then leaving it there. At six, you should have no problems getting red and immediately jumping into a gank (you can choose to delay getting red if you don't think you *can* get a gank). I'd also recommend donating blue to a teammate, since it doesn't help your jungle as much and that early blue can win the lane for an ally (imagine mage vs mage in mid: the cdr and ability to spam abilities will change the tide).

In a lee sin gank, I'd recommend holding off on using your q if you can, since enemies that have a blink (anybody with flash, a leblanc, kassadin, etc, etc) will pop it when they want to run, and you can use q to close the gap and continue proc'ing the red slow along with your e. You do not want to use your q as the first gap closer unless you have to. It does more damage based on percentage of health missing as well, so delaying it improves your damage output. I'd also recommend walking a bit in front of people when they're trying to run and dragon kicking them backwards into your teammates after they've used their blink. Shouldn't be a problem to do when you've already slowed them, and it's the most effective way to use your ult at low levels (since the damage is unlikely to finish anybody off at that point, better to use it to keep them in range of getting pummeled).

As for masteries, 21/0/9 would probably work fine. Others probably have better advice when it comes to that than me.

Also, on yi jungles without perfect setups: you'll need sizable amount of luck to get a fast jungle. If the q doesn't proc, you'll have a much slower jungle than most. If it does, you'll be insanely fast. (Yi can potentially clear the entire wraith camp with a single q proc)
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Post Post #3030 (isolation #63) » Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:44 pm

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Intermediate bots are ridiculously overpowered... because they use summoner spells. (I'm just glad annie bot never has
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Post Post #3034 (isolation #64) » Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:38 pm

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hasdgfas wrote:
RayFrost wrote:Intermediate bots are ridiculously overpowered... because they use summoner spells. (I'm just glad annie bot never has
flash
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Intermediate bots aren't OP, but they're not inept.


I was joking. Still, the bots have some really, really powerful combinations compared to the beginner bots. Like seeing you at half health under the tower, ashe ulting you to allow cho to tank the tower while annie blows you to 0 kind of thing. Things that are done by actual players are pulled off by the intermediate bots.
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Post Post #3087 (isolation #65) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:36 pm

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>Get an account on EU nordic to avoid the people getting accounts on EU west that are unable to get on NA.
>Troll around
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>Profit
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Post Post #3115 (isolation #66) » Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:53 pm

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I can't do the skype bit (no mic), but I can do the rest, no problem.

<--- mainly plays support anyway
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Post Post #3117 (isolation #67) » Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:00 pm

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Espeonage wrote:The awkward moment when you are 4v1 and you get a kill.


The awkward moment you're 4v1, get a kill, and survive or...?

Also: I've seen a 100 hp tf kill a brand who also had a shaco and a galio with him. Well, I thought "tf's screwed" and looked away to hear... >an enemy has been slain! "the hell...?" >an ally has been slain! "oh... wat"
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Post Post #3118 (isolation #68) » Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:00 pm

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Also, the thing I look most forward to for dominion is... max feast stacks cho'gath's model size after he gets the storm rune in the center of the map (since it makes your champion bigger... imagine cho'gath with that shit).
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Post Post #3158 (isolation #69) » Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:58 pm

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GhostWriter wrote:So, excluding jungle, because I have absolutely no desire to learn it, is this a good group of Champs to know/be learning:
Sona


If you plan on ever really playing support, you'll need a (slightly) larger pool than just sona. She's likely to be picked before you get the chance. I suggest taric/janna/karma for a good base depending on what you're looking to do. Since you already have sona, I'd say janna / karma are better learning options.
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Post Post #3178 (isolation #70) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:35 pm

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I don't feel revive is viable on karthus either, ftr. Better off just getting ignite or flash, whichever one you drop for the revive.
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Post Post #3193 (isolation #71) » Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:01 am

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Because she only needs the damage from trinity force and can build pure tanky from there while still keeping up with other tanky dps in damage output, plus her passive gives her powerful cc reduction on top of merc treads, and you're also dealing true damage even if it's small amounts per hit, not to mention having a powerful blink + stun/slow combination that makes you a strong anti-carry in any fight.
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Post Post #3212 (isolation #72) » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:35 pm

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I lack the skills to be a hammer bro. She's kinda fun, but not my style. Then again... I'm a support / tank player for the most part. For some reason, I just don't like the style of carries and the like.
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Post Post #3292 (isolation #73) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:50 pm

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You can fix this by e ---> r ---> w ----> q very quickly on someone. It hurts a lot.
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Post Post #3305 (isolation #74) » Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:50 pm

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Oh I misunderstood talon's ult, then. I thought it sent out the ring and then came back for the potential to hit twice per blade, a la his w but less controlled. My bad. :P
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Post Post #3359 (isolation #75) » Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:30 am

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The awkward moment where the kayle that stole your jungle creeps and stayed way too long for you to get blue without losing xp calls you a retard for dying.
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Post Post #3381 (isolation #76) » Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:37 pm

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Espy, you were saying "gtfo" "gtfo" "run" "run" "oh I think he d/c'd..." "and now he's dead" from what I recall. :P

Amrun: if you want to make accounts on the EU servers, feel free to add me on them. Rayfrost for west and voidencblaze for nordic.
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Post Post #3382 (isolation #77) » Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:38 pm

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Also, you can see your fps by looking just under your kills/deaths/assists score. There should be a marker saying fps: #
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Post Post #3415 (isolation #78) » Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:13 pm

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Play mafia
watch youtube vids of lol games, of course!
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Post Post #3451 (isolation #79) » Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:36 pm

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Dat annie. D'awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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Post Post #3481 (isolation #80) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:47 pm

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Brandi Avatar is Cutest Avatar.

<3 cute reverse annie
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Post Post #3483 (isolation #81) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:49 pm

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Annie's the most fun of the champions I've played. Probably the only champion I'd take interest in getting a skin.
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Post Post #3486 (isolation #82) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:00 pm

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Yi tried to 1v1 me. He lost. Repeatedly.
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Post Post #3489 (isolation #83) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:41 pm

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Es still up on EU west. Es mordekaiser.
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Post Post #3494 (isolation #84) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:29 pm

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Eu servers are up.

And their ranked games are up.

After the server returns, ranked shall be brought with it.
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Post Post #3498 (isolation #85) » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:10 am

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Well, keep in mind that reck took w for level one.
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Post Post #3500 (isolation #86) » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:23 am

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What do you do if you give someone suggestions and tips in a polite manner and they're a dick? Just ignore them for the rest of the game? Tried this and they kept being mad.
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Post Post #3541 (isolation #87) » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:01 pm

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Espeonage wrote:Planning on learning; Udyr, Lux and Nid next. Tips? Good guides? Items?


Udyr: You better jungle that shit. And read previous talky talky on udyr. It's in the thread.

Lux: q, auto, e, auto, pop e with auto in *mid-air*, things get hurt. low bastard? q, ult shit. You have slain an enemy! Edit: Items. Think annie, then think annie that wants cdr. RoA, deathcap, sorcs/lucidity, morello's, zhonya's, all k. q > e > w - q has better early game usage.

Nid: W for level one, do not use spear until it's level two, get at least one point in e. Don't get more than one point in w: it's just to have ounce when you hit six. Good items: sheen, sorcs, rageblade, lichbane, deathcap. Throw spear, move backwards, watch it nuke. Your spear is your power poke to get them low for you to go cougar and DEVOUR THEIR FLESH. Cougar is super fast running, but remember to shift human for heals / quick spear. If they flash away, pounce once, human, spear their run path. LAUGH AS YOU KILL THEM. Use heal on biggest auto damage person when pushing tower: it gives an as steroid. Go cougar when ushing tower: free procs of sheen/lichbane. Going cougar gets you to lane faster, pounce gets rageblade stacks on the way.
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Post Post #3543 (isolation #88) » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:07 pm

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Just have tans do it.

Singer: pre-/in
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Post Post #3556 (isolation #89) » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:02 pm

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Tank nidalee is horrible. So many kinds of horrible. It's just wrong.

On the subject of e or q for priority: it's a matter of if you're dealing with harass. No harass? Q is far more useful. Taking a buncha damage: E is far more useful. Be flexible on this. Opening w is because e isn't mana efficient at level one either. Though I guess if you're doing it wrong and duo-laning nid you'd need the heal *very early*, but you should never be duo-laning nid. Nid shines most as a solo top. Healing's best when you use it at level two, and w is actually a decent zoning tool in early lane due to the mr/armor shred + damage + vision.

For opening items, there's two options: doran's ring or boots health pots. Doran's is what I typically go for on nid merely because she has a natural heal and is mana hungry early on.
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Post Post #3558 (isolation #90) » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:35 pm

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Espeonage wrote:I suck in jungle. I want to learn Lanedyr. I have seen it played really well a few times and looks amazing.

On that note I want to play a bit of Lanewick too.


Lane udyr has nothing on range. Both the enemies have ranged harass? You're screwed in that lane. I guess you could go with a roam udyr, but that's something you'd have to plan ahead with your teammates and won't be as effective as a straight up jungle. Laning udyr requires that you either prioritize turtle stance a lot to get the sustain or just somehow get torn apart by harass while still keeping up in farm.
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Post Post #3598 (isolation #91) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:23 pm

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Morgana, anivia, corki, malzahar, swain.

Funny, since I've played all but swain and dislike morgana
heavily
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New results: malzahar, teemo, kennen, vlad, fiddle.

And I didn't really enjoy kennen/vlad when I played them. Fiddle's meh, teemo's kinda fun to mess around with, and I still love malahar from the few times I've played him.
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Post Post #3612 (isolation #92) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:09 pm

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The highest I had for both results was 7, with yi at -5 for the second and the lowest being -3 for the first. I just don't feel either way about a lot of things.
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Post Post #3616 (isolation #93) » Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:43 pm

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So I just had a ranked game. It was beautiful. So beautiful.

We communicated, had organized swaps (well only me and our blitz, but etc), and our team comp was pretty solid (though lacking in a true tank), people warded and called mias.... I was happy, very very happy. We dominated the other team, and I tallied in the fewest deaths for the game at just one with janna while still helping a lot in fights, though I rarely ever ulted. I think I ulted twice that entire game fro the sheer destruction my team was doing on theirs. Never had a reason to ult.

I feel refreshed in my belief that it is possible to have good ranked games.
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Post Post #3627 (isolation #94) » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:52 am

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Just did a dominion game, even with 8 fps I topped the scores (from the objective side, not the combat side: I captured the most (Tied with jax) and neutralized the most, jax took highest combat score, though I still had the highest overall score). Went rammus. Got priscilla's blessing + tier two boots + phantom dancer.

One word: VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOM.
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Post Post #3659 (isolation #95) » Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:47 pm

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So far, I've found a few things that are annoying: quests are not always very reasonable. One time we had captured a point on their side of the map as a bd, and that was the point we had to defend while taking the windmill, which was across the map from our entire team.

And the fact that my fps is always below 10 is frustrating for me. OH AKALI WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME BUT WAIT THAT WAS FRAME FAILURE SO SHE WAS BEHIND ME WHEN I CAST MY Q TO KEEP HER IN TURRET RANGE AT LOW HEALTH FFFFUUUUUUU
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Post Post #3679 (isolation #96) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:33 am

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When it's available, you can also create dominion custom games and invite all your friends for an inhouse or somesuch.
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Post Post #3811 (isolation #97) » Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:59 pm

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Or you're me and you go on EUNE and just muck around there.
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Post Post #3853 (isolation #98) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:39 pm

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Espeonage wrote:There is both good news and bad news. The good news is that I can play LoL on this laptop. The bad news is that my peak FPS is 11.

However that didn't stop me being a part of half the team's kills and not dying. tbf it was a bot game but I was still wrecking shit. Can't farm at all though. :(


You can't manage to play on my level at 11 fps?
Weak
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Post Post #3854 (isolation #99) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:54 pm

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Staeg wrote:Hai
I play LoL mainly on EUNE with my RL friends, but I also have a NA account back from the days of beta when there were no European servers; both are lvl 30. I think I'm decent, at the very least; would look forward to playing with you

I read the first 20 pages and decided I wouldn't want to read the whole thread.


But what's your summoner name?
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Post Post #3888 (isolation #100) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:41 pm

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My fps is the reason I can't play dominion: it's
always
at 7 or below. On SR I can at least get a lucky 20, though it's usually hovering around 10-15 with my "black screens" being the times it drops to 0 fps (and the screen literally goes black).
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Post Post #3895 (isolation #101) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:03 pm

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I've gone afk and come back to being half health auto attacking a blitzcrank that was at like 300 hp. He died, I didn't. This was at level 4 or something. I was tristana. I didn't even bother casting any spells when I cam back, I just let him kill himself on me. Was... funny... kinda.
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Post Post #3909 (isolation #102) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:40 pm

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Just did maokai with teemo up top. Poor rammus. Got first blood by tower diving him, teemo got executed in the process. Then did work n the tower. Rammus ended up *so* far behind. Dem saplings. And then I ended the game with only one death and my team got two aces. The enemies were dumb enough to fight in my ult so even when I got hit by four of them, was at 300 health, flashed over a wall and ulted as I walked back into the fight I could kill rammus before they killed me and then my team got the rest easily.

Also: maokai's burst is hella strong. Even if you can't snare into your saplings, you can knock them up for enough time for it to blow up on them.
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Post Post #3917 (isolation #103) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:15 am

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Staeg wrote:
Oman wrote:I had a really bad stint. Sat back, reread some lit, and then STOMPED as an AD, and an AP teemo. Shame I have to go to sleep instead of playing more, I think I'm starting to conceptualise it all a little more.

Can you re-type this in the morning, please? I don't think I understood anything except you needing sleep...


Translation: I had some really bad games. I took a break and read some guides and then did really well as both ad and ap teemo. Too bad I need to seep instead of playing, I think I'm starting to understand how to think about this game.

That help?
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Post Post #3971 (isolation #104) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:56 pm

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His q and e both serve as gap closers / increasers, though he doesn't have a truepeel. With galio, it seems more a matter of not even needing one. Flash ult, EVERYTHING DIES. Peel? Peel their blood off your stone-y hide.
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Post Post #4037 (isolation #105) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:03 pm

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Annie and Karthus still benefit more from the blue than Sion, in my opinion. Karthus' e saps a lot of mana, and annie only get the mana cost back on her q, she eats *major* mana when she's tryiing to harass and blue makes it essentially amazing for her especially with her already low cooldowns.
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Post Post #4104 (isolation #106) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:35 pm

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Brandi wrote:Hmm, someone suggest a champion for me to draw to enter into the summoner showcase? I love kog'maw but I would rather draw something more "human"... preferably female. :p I just saw a Kog'Maw in the last showcase anyway <_<;


Poppy!

Alternatively: karma / irelia could use some love as well.
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Post Post #4116 (isolation #107) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:50 pm

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Had a game where one of us d/c'd in dominion and we basically got destroyed. Game lasted less than seven minutes because we got five capped in the first three or four.
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Post Post #4118 (isolation #108) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:31 pm

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Well, it was more a 3v5 since I ran on 5 fps that entire game, meaning not doing anything really.
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Post Post #4150 (isolation #109) » Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:31 pm

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Just played singed in a custom. Two of our players left, 3v5. The other team's fed zilean who got mejai's proceeded to complain about his internet failing as he died, left. Their trynd who was doing abysmally complained about internet, left. 3v3. Singed ends the game taking the most damage (i.e.: standing in the middle of four of them taking hits and then getting out alive) with the fewest deaths (2), even over the leavers. Singed's team wins (ww/fiddle/singed against initially trynd/zil/siv/wukong/veigar and then only the last three).

tl;dr: PHWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Post Post #4156 (isolation #110) » Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:29 pm

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Nasus makes me feel like a much better player than I really am. HUEG DAMAGES WHEEEEEEE. ULT FOR A TRIPLE KILL WHEEEE.
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Post Post #4161 (isolation #111) » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:38 pm

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Doesn't sound very feasible to me, but you should ask dram about that. He does all kinds of crazy things.
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Post Post #4271 (isolation #112) » Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:11 pm

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What problems are you guys having? I just logged on no problem.
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Post Post #4293 (isolation #113) » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:44 am

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I was there for brandon's first pentakill. I was the amumu that got focused by their entire team while he killed each and every one of them....
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Post Post #4348 (isolation #114) » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:12 pm

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Morgana's ult = one of the funnest things ever. I've ulted, had shaco stealth, and just walked toward where the tether was showing to keep pace, since he had to jump over me to get to his tower. q / w finisher.

She's also one of the champion I actually feel good about buying an early blue elixir with.

P-edit: Ank, what's your opinion of waiting to ult until after w in the case of your teammates having more cc to add to the pile? Example: ali pulv, morg q/w, then ult. Or poppy wallstun, w, ult, q.
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Post Post #4352 (isolation #115) » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:26 pm

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Xerath's more likely t be buffed than nerfed.

And morg is pretty ezpz. W MINIONS GET HEALTH BACK. Q BITCHES AND THEN W THEM. OH THEY PICKING A FIGHT ULT THEM ALL AND HAVE THEM SCATTER LIKE BUGS OR GET FREESTUN. Oh, and black shield the [insert team's largest damage dealer here].

And xerath is lovely for morg. "Oh, he's sitting still for me, how nice." >w >q upon locus deactivation WHERE IS YOUR PRECIOUS RANGE NOW?
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Post Post #4354 (isolation #116) » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:41 pm

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Lux summary: range/vision whore, LAZARS, strong early game drops off somewhat late game - needs farm.

Lux tips: q > e > w, e / q + auto / auto + pop e with auto in mid air = large burst. When six, e / q / ult / auto + pop e. Get cdr, have LAZARS every thirty seconds.

Anivia summary: Articuno. Egg es numero uno.

Anivia tips: Open q, prioritize e > q > w, stun into e or ult into e for large damages, get blue + r for ULTIMATE FARM. W provides vision into things and is a strong isolation ability

Soraka summary: PONIES.

Soraka tips: Open e, get q at four, prioritize w > e > q if support. If not support, then q > e > w with opening q.

Ninetails summary and tips: Spam foxfire.
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Post Post #4382 (isolation #117) » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:26 pm

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I have heard ank yell. Mostly "THESE FUCKING DELAYS" "ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME WITH THESE DELAYS" "OH MY FUCKING GOD THESE DELAYS SAVED HER LIFE"

Srsly. The delays.
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Post Post #4386 (isolation #118) » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:36 pm

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@ Ank: I wasn't saying you had little reason to complain. I was just saying that it happens to you a lot.

@ Myko: Brandi was talking about our (her-kog, chrono-poppy, me-morg) win streak as morg/poppy/kog. Though it really is a bit too easy to get mr and shut down the damage.

P-edit: Tans, have we played more than two games together?
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Post Post #4393 (isolation #119) » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:51 am

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I just played janna in aram.

One word.

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
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Post Post #4420 (isolation #120) » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:21 pm

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Espeonage wrote:I KSed twice as janna today. I feel like a failure. I'm sorry Ray, I can't live up to your standards.


It's no problem. If you want to practice JAAANNAAA, you should actually lane with me. I can practice TRISTANAAAAAA at the same time and everything will be k. We can give tips to each other.
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Post Post #4455 (isolation #121) » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:44 pm

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Any champion that's reliant on a lot regeneration (singed/mundo and to an extent garen for easy examples) can benefit
heavily
from perseverance. IIRC, karma is pretty heavy on the mana, so the bonus is good enough to at least be considering instead of instantly going "nope, good hands better."

Edit: For the guide itself, I agree that gameplay stuff needs to be included. Something I'd also mention is proper use of the skills. you say that she's hard to master but don't go into much detail on how/when to make use of the abilities. When do you choose to use a mantra'd soul shield? At the start of a fight? In the middle when they've chosen a focus target? I'd also make sure to emphasize that karma's heal has a base + a
% of missing health
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Post Post #4461 (isolation #122) » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:44 pm

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Brandi wrote:Mundo is the only one it would make a difference on. really.


Singed. Garen (atmogs / fon garen, to be more specific). Singed especially since he's getting strength of spirit
for sure
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On expanded mind: ryze, singed, and blitzcrank benefit from it more than they do from the mana regen per five, and both blitz/ryze are going all the way down the utility tree anyway (singed should get the xp boost instead, but this is due to the fact you aren't devoting more than 9 to the tree if any).

Edit: For what peg's written, it seems to me that he's more concerned about the laning phase than he is about late game when playing karma, which is why he'd prioritize perseverance.
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Post Post #4466 (isolation #123) » Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:33 am

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He was making a crack about you being at your wit's end.

Since you don't seem to have gotten the joke.
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Post Post #4484 (isolation #124) » Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:16 pm

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"Tier one non-summoner utility masteries are trash usefulness"

"Tier one non-summoner offense masteries are trash usefulness"

"Tier one non-summoner (and basically summoner) masteries are trash usefulness"

True statements. They're all gateways to better masteries.
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Post Post #4486 (isolation #125) » Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:21 pm

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So the issue is there's thought necessary for deciding between the two of good hands and perseverance?
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Post Post #4507 (isolation #126) » Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:32 pm

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Yay I wake up to watch the last eight seconds of the last game. :(
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Post Post #4527 (isolation #127) » Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:35 pm

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Espeonage wrote:Madred's Bloodrazor procs off his ult.


All on hit effects proc on his ult, and sunfire cape also procs while you're ulting them. It's not a tremendous amount, but it adds up. (wit's end is also a really strong mr item for ww)
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Post Post #4531 (isolation #128) » Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:57 pm

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A key thing your build is missing: boots. Get mercs, usually. Of those items, I'd say you could probably drop the banshee's for the boots (mercs give mr anyway, so not a huge loss on that) and have the HoG be what ank said in the end.
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Post Post #4535 (isolation #129) » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:42 am

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I'm suffering from a
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Post Post #4539 (isolation #130) » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:29 am

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Yeaahhh, that fix didn't work. I think I'm just stuck until they release a fullfix of the issue in a patch.

Edit: I managed to fix it by doing the fix (someone already told me about it) via making it a shortcut and dragging it onto my desktop. Also had to switch it to administrator and then off for some reason.
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Post Post #4563 (isolation #131) » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:30 pm

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Post Post #4593 (isolation #132) » Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:23 pm

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YOUR E HEALS YOU BUT YOU GOTTA HAVE MANAS SO GET A MANAMUNE AND OPEN MEKI PENDANT.

Yorick's a tanky dps. Atmogs would work (really well) on him, manamune is a good item to get to sustain your constant ghoul spam an get a use out of the tear mana boost.
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Post Post #4594 (isolation #133) » Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:24 pm

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Trinity is also possible, but I think it'd be better to spend the gold toward a warmog's or atma's.
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Post Post #4604 (isolation #134) » Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:30 pm

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LANE YI: OPEN DORANS RING.

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Post Post #4635 (isolation #135) » Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:39 pm

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Everything up to mercs is :goodshit: but never ever ever ever ever ever get mejai's on singed. Just don't. You are not an AP carry, do not stack ap. You're a tank, get tank shit.

Good items: sf cape, force of nature, rylai's, (situational items are as follows) raduin's omen / frozen heart / banshee's

Rylai's is more "I'm tanky as fuck, I want to have some super baller ice poison and have my flings be final." - don't get it before you're tanky.

Edit: Also never ever ever ever ever get a tear of the goddess. It looks good but it's shit. And if they don't have any cc but a lot of ad, you can consider getting ninja tabi instead of mercs.
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Post Post #4637 (isolation #136) » Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:53 pm

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Thornmail is very specifically "they're auto attackers and I need a lot of armor" - it shouldn't be core. More core items would be sf cape / fon / rylai's with situational additions or swap outs with rylai's to randuin's / frozen heart / banshee's if you're not tanky enough.

The situational items counter a specific thing: banshee's blocks the magic damage combo people (lb, for example), randuin's is a really good way to shut down ad dps teams (same as frozen heart, though people have differing presences on which one to get). Thornmail is very specifically I am being auto attacked, so it'd be good if you're being auto attacked but it is not the best value for armor otherwise.

You can also consider finishing mercs before finishing your RoA.

On singed I personally go: Sapphire -> boots -> catalyst -> mercs if they're running fast / RoA if I'm good on speed -> whichever I didn't get -> sf cape if they're more ad / fon if they're more ap -> get the other one -> rylai's (I've yet to actually get to rylai's before my games end because phweeee).
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Post Post #4639 (isolation #137) » Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:57 pm

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Also, my choice of summoner spells for singed are teleport / ghost. You can also do ghost/exhaust or flash/ghost, but
always have ghost
. It's #1 singed summoner. I do tp because I'm often (solo) top lane + I take much joy from tp'ing in behind the enemy team from split pushing (via wardz, obv) and initiating that way. The bonus of exhaust is ruinin dps / keeping people still after fling / etc. Flash provides for fun with flash fling combos. So take for whichever you prefer.

Singed does do plenty of damage, but remember that your job is to force people out of position and split push. You can push lanes like a bauws, and you need the cs anyway, so go crazy on them minions.

Edit: Oh yeah, and singed can do insane tower dives with his team. I've literally taken fifteen tower hits while my team killed a half health rammus + katarina. And lived.
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Post Post #4641 (isolation #138) » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:00 pm

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The reason you don't take ignite is the fact your job is
not
to be the killer. Your job is to make it easier on your killers to kill. + split push

With singed, I'd personally go 0/21/9. Always always always get strength of spirit. You'll be getting crazy amounts of mana naturally, so it provides enormous benefits. Take perseverance over good hands on singed.
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Post Post #4643 (isolation #139) » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:07 pm

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xRECKONERx wrote:o.O

but singed is SO NASTY with his poison and he can't be chased

hrm. maybe I should try playing him more defensively?


His poison does nice deeeeeps, sure. He deals damage, he's a beautiful creature. All the more reason you
don't
need ignite. Ignite is "this bitch got away with 10 health from my super awesome burst combo, THIS SHALL FINISH IT" - singed doesn't have a super awesome burst combo. He has super baller poison farts that make it deadly to chase him. He's not a defensive guy after he get his catalyst, but keep in mind that you're still a tank.

Tanks don't get kills, they get assists.

Singed is a bit more unique on the tank ladder, but his main job is... 1) split push farm like a bauws, 2) get chased like a bauws, 3) fling shit like a bauws. Note the lack of "kill all their things like a bauws"
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Post Post #4647 (isolation #140) » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:27 pm

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xRECKONERx wrote:If you're solo top, using ignite isn't a bad idea, since it gives you that SLIGHT edge you might need to win your lane


Or you could get tp and be back with the slight edge of HAW HAW I CAN GO B AND YOU CANT WITHOUT ME PUSHING HAW HAW.

Edit: but yeah, as bv and hascow said, other possibilities aside from tp/ghost exist.
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Post Post #4651 (isolation #141) » Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:14 pm

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SF cape provides a lot of effective ap for singed due to the passive: a friend of mine did the math for it (his singed guide found here gives the number, though I dunno the actual math he did). The value of the xp boost off of the utility tree helps singed a sizable amount in lane: faster catalyst regen, faster reaching level 18.
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Post Post #4654 (isolation #142) » Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:22 pm

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Brandi wrote:Reck! Don't listen to RF. Even if you're not "getting kills" with singed, ASSISTS still get you stacks on Mejai's... and you're not going to die and lose stacks because you are MOTEHRFUCKNIG SINGED. Just don't -RUSH- a Mejai's. Singed doesn't even need anything other than RoA and boots; Everything else is just buying you more time to /L at the enemy.

I love when singed is on my team~ <3 (He always gets banned in draft though ;c )


I really really really really hate snowball items. They're basically saying "I KNOW FOR SURE THAT I WILL NEVER DIE BECAUSE YOU GUYS SUCK"

Also, singed doesn't get a lot of benefit from the stacks: cdr is way too slow to come around, and his abilities don't really make ap stacking all by itself worthwhile. Fling's got a great ratio, but it's not exactly an amazing ability for dat damage, and the poison ratio is bad enough that the ap simply isn't worthwhile. If you're getting a snowball item, you might as well get a leviathan. At least then you're still being a proper tank.

And dottrololo means you want to be malzahar.
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Post Post #4682 (isolation #143) » Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:30 am

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Ashe arrows (from base to their inhib) right as they walk into the ap shaco's box trap.

This happened. It was awesome, even though it was against bots.
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Post Post #4685 (isolation #144) » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:45 am

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I hope the ninja tabi are meant to be mercs with a chance of tabi if they have little/no cc.
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Post Post #4719 (isolation #145) » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:00 pm

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I think that depends on how many ad champs are on your tea: if you've got other ad on your team, black cleaver provides more team-wide utility while last whisper is more of a personal damage item. Not many ad champs, you get a last whisper, a sizable number (maybe three?), get a cleaver and watch everybody do major dps.
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Post Post #4814 (isolation #146) » Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:32 pm

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Beware the 200 damage level one crits. Get armor. Exhaust his ass.
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Post Post #4825 (isolation #147) » Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:56 pm

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I was actually full ap shaco but then got bored and got some other random stuff.
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Post Post #4829 (isolation #148) » Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:33 pm

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Riot should take a lesson from whoever drew that: there is
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Post Post #4835 (isolation #149) » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:07 am

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Exhaust can be used as an escape because it copletely ruins their dps and makes them significantly slower. That said, both have great utility in general.
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Post Post #4892 (isolation #150) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:07 pm

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Gunblade has already been nerfed.
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Post Post #4899 (isolation #151) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:34 pm

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I think JD's more pointing out that
he gets a bloodrazor's worth of gold in damage output
for free while also
suddenly having longer range than 90% of the champions in the game
at the same time. The two together make him ridiculously strong even without items. Cool thing is... he gets items too.

Edit: Also, his damage becomes
naturally hybrid
even if he builds 100% ad. Makes it hard to itemize defenses to counter him.
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Post Post #4936 (isolation #152) » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:53 pm

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Brandi wrote:Also: Not Jungle amumu; Just regular tank amumu <_<;


My experiences as amumu (both mid and beyond): opening dorans shield is for when you see the enemy team is ad heavy and that you are likely to deal with ad, otherwise boots + health pots is better. Open your q if you're expecting an early fight, otherwise open e. Prioritize e > w > q with one level in q by level four (be sure to get one earlier if you think a fight will happen). You have two choices from here. To be farmtank and not give a fuck or to be supporttank and harass the living shit out of the other people. Either way, you're going to want a philo stone to maintain yourself in lane. Even if you don't want a real fight, q + e is a good harassing combination (a bit risky to do this, so often just walking in range and clicking e is better - as always make sure to use your own positional judgment for this).

At six, you will fucking dominate that lane with almost guaranteed certainty (disclaimer: ymmv based on how well your laning has gone so far). Go for harassing them a bit low and then initiate on them with a q / ult combo. Kill fucking everything. Works especially well if your laning partner has a strong amount of sustained damage (for example: nasus).

How you actually build amumu is up to the enemy team comp, but solid items in general are fon / randuin's / frozen heart / bveil. Pretty much
always
get mercs. If they're low on cc and have a lot of auto attackers, then ninja tabi is also viable.

In team fights, your role is basically to q in, ult some bitches, and cry and throw tantrums until your other shit comes off cooldown or the fight is won.

Better players can give more refined advice, etc, etc.
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Post Post #4938 (isolation #153) » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:57 pm

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Ankamius wrote:Get some damn health as a tank. You're useless without health, no matter how much armor/mr you have.


This is why randuin's / bveil are good generic items, imo. Both provide health and resistances.

Also: heart of gold is a good laning item for amumu, but I think philo is a better one to get first with hog second.
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Post Post #4943 (isolation #154) » Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:15 am

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Fml, I can't connect to the server. I keep trying and just get a "can't connect, check your firewall" error every time, even though league is part of the accepted programs.... main issue is the fact I can't connect
for the game that's already started


Edit: managed to get into a custom by myself... with 800+ latency.
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Post Post #4946 (isolation #155) » Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:20 am

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I managed to get into a custom with people with no more than *usual* issues, so I think it's fixed now. Just needed to restart my computer.
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Post Post #4982 (isolation #156) » Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:31 pm

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I do lane amumu as a gimmick and I do so with 0 intention of doing well (yet somehow outfarm a twitch in mid cuz lolbads). That said junglemummy > lanemummy if only for pure ganking pleasure (and the fact he has no ranged harass and the fact he can't really "support" a lane etc).
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Post Post #5054 (isolation #157) » Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:51 pm

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Soraka ryze seems like it'd work out the best She can give him massive mana due to early mana problems when farming + she's really strong in lane.
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Post Post #5058 (isolation #158) » Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:26 am

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I fail really hard with targeting things with targeted abilities I go to click and it just doesn't cast... I've died like five times in the past to this (or had allies die...).
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Post Post #5096 (isolation #159) » Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:30 pm

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Dat nasus.
Dat nasus
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My god.
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Post Post #5098 (isolation #160) » Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:35 pm

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sarcasm i assume
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Post Post #5101 (isolation #161) » Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:42 pm

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Ryze passive
Fiddle q
Shaco w
Nocturne e
Gragas r

Because fear + repositioning into fear.
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Post Post #5104 (isolation #162) » Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:56 pm

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I'd also consider this to be lulzy fun:

GP passive
Trist Q
olaf w
cass e
Trynd r (rage would be wasted but yeah) or Nasus r (nasus probs better)

Dat dps. GP's passive is poison. I believe it counts for cass' e so yah.

Also: olaf passive + trynd ult = a lot of synergy. Just realized that.

Edit:

Jax passive
Noct q
Olaf w
GP e
Vayne r

Because free health.
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Post Post #5152 (isolation #163) » Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:15 pm

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The report isn't a big impact. If you leave too many games, you get suspended. (automatically d/cs if you're afk for too long)
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Post Post #5215 (isolation #164) » Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:59 pm

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The harrowing runes are under tier 2 runes, quints, limited availability for finding only them.
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Post Post #5261 (isolation #165) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:28 pm

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Cho'gath and fiddle become top tier bans, methinks.
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Post Post #5278 (isolation #166) » Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:14 pm

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SpyreX wrote:Is Karthus good?

I guess I'll just try some. Alistair was interesting.


Karthus is competitive, and glass cannon karthus hurts a lot (though it's not effective imo).

Alistair's a tank, so yeah.

@ Reck: urgot es strong laner. I hope you kept in mind q > w > e, open q, e at level two, and the fact he's about
zoning out all the things from lane
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Post Post #5319 (isolation #167) » Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:38 am

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Damn french canadians.
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Post Post #5338 (isolation #168) » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:27 pm

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Another issue is the whole "break the goddamned nexus" thing. If all you do is kill things and never push and they always push in with their advantages, you'll still lose despite your kill lead. How good was your baron/dragon/general map control? Did you ward? etc.
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Post Post #5437 (isolation #169) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:46 am

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drmyshottyizsik wrote:Ok so lich bane on an ap shaco who has 600 ap is op..... I did it earlier and well the ap rocks for killing champs and minions and when I want to kill a turret I just disapear and my next attack does crazy damage to the turret. I can take dont a turret in 8 seconds solo as an ap carry... :)


You don't mention using boxes to kill turrets.

Why don't you mention using boxes to kill turrets.
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Post Post #5494 (isolation #170) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:36 pm

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I have been experiencing an increase in getting paired with people that seem to be oblivious to how bad they are and feel the need to take it out on everybody else. So I have been increased in levels of frustration.

On the team thing, I'd offer but I really can't. Time zones, and I can't ever guarantee a time in which I'll be 100% undisturbed.
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Post Post #5607 (isolation #171) » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:14 pm

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I rarely watch streamers, but I enjoy watching guardsman bob, lust, and chiefdrejer.
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Post Post #5631 (isolation #172) » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:33 am

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Buttons...

you genius
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Doing this next game. For sure.
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Post Post #5633 (isolation #173) » Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:09 am

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I once played twitch. Pew pew double kill. Pew pew. Then two people on their team bought an oracles.
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Post Post #5755 (isolation #174) » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:47 pm

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xRECKONERx wrote:Has anyone else been having terrible FPS issues recently? Mine went from a soli 60 per match to like 7.


I haven't had anything more terrible than usual: averaging ~12 fps per game, dropping to 0 whenever my motherboard decides to take a dump, having less than 5 fps on dominion every time regardless of anything going on besides it being dominion.
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Post Post #5850 (isolation #175) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:07 pm

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Fizz is nothing like shaco, so I'm not quite getting the comparison.
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Post Post #5871 (isolation #176) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:10 pm

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Holy fuck that new defense tree.
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Post Post #5930 (isolation #177) » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:13 pm

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My god chrono learn some of the champions you already have fda;lkfafjask;fljafd

(said as a jest that chrono only plays 4 out of his owned champions: poppy, irelia, wukong, riven)
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Post Post #5939 (isolation #178) » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:38 pm

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Go solo top instead of going bot as brand in 3s. Go mid in 5s. Brand is more of a solo laner.
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Post Post #5970 (isolation #179) » Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:43 pm

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I guess I could technically sub.

I
can
play a couple junglers (warwick / sion / tryndamere) not-badly, I've got decent play with at least two solo mids (annie / gragas), and I can do supports. Supports are my best, but I can work my way around the other roles if need be (except solo top - this is the only position where I will always do badly).

Only problem would be time zones.
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Post Post #5972 (isolation #180) » Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:48 pm

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Japan is GMT+9, so that's distant from everybody.
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Post Post #6008 (isolation #181) » Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:40 am

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That happened to me as well in a game. I think it's a riot-side problem, since
everybody
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Post Post #6126 (isolation #182) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:55 pm

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FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU @ c++ runtime error. Old fix doesn't even work for this shit.
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Post Post #6128 (isolation #183) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:06 pm

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Yup.

Even when running the shortuts on both .72 and .96 (either with admin or otherwise), I get either the c++ error or the entire client shuts down.
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Post Post #6143 (isolation #184) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:28 am

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Reinstalled. Problems es fixed for now.

On amumu:

Sure, he's easy to defeat early game, but in mid game when towers are down he can more easily farm and the like. Ganking is hard, but that's why you often have teams built around him not being shitty for ganks (example: reliable cc / strong damage laners such as malzahar or even a taric / caitlyn lane on bot, wukong/galio solo top, etc). To be honest, I find amumu's ult to be anti-right click not much else. Spells can still be cast during it. The beautiful thing about amumu is his ability to deal some really solid damage while still being an effective cc whore tank.

I suppose you could say galio outclasses amumu on some things: strong laning, strong farming, but he lacks a good initiation without flash (and now even with flash considering how shit it is). The thing that's good about amumu is his ability to close the gap (q) and ult: he's not a tank reliant upon a summoner to get his initiation off, and he still provides a relatively equal amount of utility.

teeldeer; amumu's shitty early game is made up for by how beautiful he is everywhere else
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Post Post #6178 (isolation #185) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:02 pm

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MrZepher wrote:Is it a terrible idea to build rylais on amumu if you're doing well?

Or even to build it earlyish?


I'd say it isn't worth building early on, as it kind of detracts from your tankiness. If you're doing well and already have solid items for resistances (fon / frozen heart come to mind as possibilities, though this is just off the head examples), then I don't see why not. It gives health (which is nice), and basically ensures that bitches be dead when you bandage them / cry all over their shoes / etc.

But this assumes you're already doing
really well
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Post Post #6279 (isolation #186) » Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:45 am

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Just went ad shaco.

I... I guess I can do this if my teammates decide to instalock two ap champions and demand bot. Otherwise ap shaco choo choo all the way. (though I'm considering the possibility of early game going a couple of rings and getting two levels in boxes and then shifting to ad from there to allow some abuse of ap).
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Post Post #6284 (isolation #187) » Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:00 am

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Brandi wrote:AP shaco is useless in the end game, and makes games 4v5. It's just a gimmick- AND his AP ratios got nerfed. ~_~


Couple things worth noting.

1) Dese be 3s

2) Ap shaco is hilarious at all points in the game and his early game is vastly stronger than ad shaco (hence my commentary of a couple of rings early on even when going ad shaco - 1:1 ratio on shivs + mana regen)

3) Shaco is not really viable to begin with, due to his innate squishiness in combination with his being a melee lacking in either a gap closer or an escape (depending on when you choose to use your q - compare with other assassin-esque champions such as akali and leblanc or with other melee dps such as wukong). He's most useful as an objective getter (a la wriggles double procs) and backdoor person (a la boxes + clone).

Just a quickpost before I sleep.

P-edit: stuff not reading it have fun watching mlg bye
Btw, I don't play shaco for srs, I play him for fun. Kinda like twitch.
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Post Post #6294 (isolation #189) » Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:57 pm

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mykonian wrote:AP shaco is stronger
in lane
. Even in 3's, if you keep shaco out of the lane, and in the jungle, he is an exceptional ganker as AD.


Well the one time I went ad shaco the other two instantly locked veigar/kennen and said they were going bot.

No chance of testing jungle.
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Post Post #6296 (isolation #190) » Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:23 pm

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Oh something I'd like to correct:

Shaco's ratios have not been nerfed recently. They nerfed the
base damage / level
on his boxes. They also decreased the fear range and arm time (both buffs imo: earlier fear range was so high people wouldn't even be in range to get hit at all).

Though I do find it fun to take towers as shaco. At six, akali went b, me + shyvana took a tower from full to zero without me even ulting (box op huehuehue) before she got back. Akali was very upset.

Also: is sword of the divine a viable not-anti-jax item for ad shaco? I had to deal with a jax and got it but found it actually made my dps significantly higher than I thought it would.
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Post Post #6308 (isolation #191) » Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:06 am

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Morgana gives no fucks about kassadin.

But she's the only one that comes straight to mind when thinking "LANING AGAINST MR ABS"

I am frustrated right now, though. 3v3 where we were like 100% guaranteed to win and then both of my teammates disconnect at the same time. Naturally, the enemy team wins in the next three minutes by simply pushing through the inhib tower, diving it to kill me, taking the inhib, and then taking the nexus. The irritating thing is they had
an ability power gangplank
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Post Post #6344 (isolation #192) » Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:21 pm

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MrZepher wrote:I need builds orders for Akali and Vayne

Solomid is down currently. lol. I wonder why....


Akali likes it when you have runes to activate both her passives and open boots / health pots. That's all I know.

Also: OI RECK TELL CYNICALEFECT IN THAT TOURNAMENT THINGY THAT IM YOUR DAMN SUB.
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Post Post #6381 (isolation #193) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:39 am

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The purpose of rammus isn't just "counter all physicals" - he's an AMAZING initiator with the ability to then ensure one person stays very still as they get raped a new ass. This aspect of him (AMAZING ganks with no cost to late game initiating powers) is not related to the damage type of the enemy team.
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Post Post #6422 (isolation #194) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:03 pm

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Brandi: I'm jelly.

On ap teemo: auto, q, auto, run away, rinse repeat harass burst up the ass nbd. Destroy entire minion waves in a single shroom. Summary of how it's done.

On ad teemo: if you're squishy, die instantly. if you aren't squishy, get damage in for yays, push towers for days.

P-edit: The only thing I know about kassadin is you should want every single blue you can get. This basically means you can't play with any blue dependent junglers. With blue, you basically shit on most things in lane. Q harass up the ass.
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Post Post #6449 (isolation #195) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:32 pm

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Post Post #6452 (isolation #196) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:20 pm

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Armored fucking bears.

'nuff said
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Post Post #6469 (isolation #197) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:23 pm

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KoC: If you'd like, I can duo with you to get you closer to ank's range and then you can duo with him. I'm not as good as ank, but my elo's much closer to your current (and I like supports so it's k).

On ranked pre-arranged: I refuse to be in any team ever because this laptop.
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Post Post #6494 (isolation #198) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:43 am

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I smurf for a couple reasons: 1) teaching lower level friends without going the "sink or swim" route of forcing them to play against people with runes and shit (and I don't go hypercarry), 2) enhancing my ability to make decisions on whether to go in / not, as lower level players often just go very much "follow the leader" with "leader" being whoever is doing the best.

Btw, I tend to actually do rather poorly at lower levels. :shifty: (MY FLASH I MISS IT SO)
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Post Post #6496 (isolation #199) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:00 am

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I guess I didn't have as pleasant an introductory experience as you did.
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