Xenosaga Mafia (Game Over)

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VOTE: mastin

Because that's who AP would want me to vote for.

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people are sheeping me and I have yet to post, wtf

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hi nacho

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Ah ha! Backpedaling scum, I see.

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Sangres, what is your read on Kaze and Brian Skies?

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@AFB: what's your read on sangres so far?

sangres.....suspicious

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people are sheeping me and I have yet to post, wtf

Remember, I don't exist.

I just post dickish comments that get ascribed to you.

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Skull is town, Kaze is scum.

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So, basically, flash-wagon Orci on Day 3?

Yup.

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Why not? It looks like a good wagon to me with all them sheep votes. Regardless of what I flip, I think you guys can nail the entire scum-team with the information we've garnered thus far.

Fun Fact: In the last Xeno game, the L-3 wagon on TD at the start of the game only had 1 scum on it.

And it was the last scum we caught.

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That flashwagon actually was one of the worst things i've seen.

Vote: Metal Sonic

Remember that flash wagon you put on TD?

That was roughly as bad.

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All the questions directed at this hydra are to my buddy. Way to make me sad guys

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That's what happens when I hydra with one of the highest-presence players on site :/

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Sup guys Im in Ireland. So I'll be catching up in the next 24 hours, don't post too much <3 <3

I have some reads from skimming, but I'd rather wait until I can actually stomach the QUOTE STRIP WALLS.

Ok you can all have one complimentary read. Orcinus is towntowntown.

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WHAT DID I TELL YOU GUYS ABOUT POSTING

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huh. is it bc of his comment about zmuffin flipping super-saint? scum are more aware of super-saints and in this case it wouldn't even affect him. so I'm inclined to agree that post feels off

vote: Brian

what are your thoughts on sangres so far?

You got it.

I've no thoughts on sangres.

40 sounds like quiiiite the stretch for scumreading Brian and I have a hard time believing that Kaze was REALLY scumreading Brian over something so oddly specific as Supersaint Hunting when its like, IDK, PAGE ONE.

This looks like Kaze just decided to roll with this explanation after the fact. Buddying/bullshitting, w/e. Kaze gets an early scumread. And his quote walls are less than inspiring, reads like hes trying hard but not really getting anywhere.

Yeah? Why?

Well lets see its page 2 and I am trolling ffery and she seems unaware that the chronic troll is trolling her. Duhhhhhh, null-leaning-scum off the bat for her.

Sangres, what is your read on Kaze and Brian Skies?

Town and town.
I havent read any of their posts but probability is on my side and maybe Brian made a post that seemed pretty town?

This post is also "meh" but leaning towards "Uhhhh, ffery are you SURE you rolled town??" with a dash of ffery suddenly being cheeky and not realizing that I was doing just that not 5 posts ago?

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Hasty reads cause Im at work and stuff (still not nearly caught up, but doing that a bit now)

Venmar - Townish. I like his paranoia on our slot and he doesn't seem to be pushing any particular agenda with pressuring us (reads genuine)
Brian - Null-leaning-townish? Brian is different than I have seen him, but he feels like he got another town-card and is just rolling with all the trolls at this point because fuck it, he ain't got nothing to hide.
Metal Sonic - Town for post 137 alone. Obvious town even. If you can't see it, then I can't help you.
Cephrir - Ummmm, Hmmmm, Durrrr, Meehhhh? You scum? Your ISO kind of looks like it, scumrir. Splash of opinions, one of them (The SkullDuggery one in post 62) reads a bit unnatural to me. Has no real opinion on Skull other than "wallposts, gross!" (but apparently likes Kazes?) and decides to question my townread here over the Kaze scumread? Weird. WEIRD. Reads like hes trying to actively be in the game rather than having natural opinions about people.

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ZmuffinMan - Null leaning scummy. I dislike his posting about the Brian wagon. Very controlled posting, nothing that looks very town motivated. Keeps insisting that Pie is scum like hes hoping someone will bite the bait? Which Kagami evidently does here

explain Kaze scum. how sure are you of Skull town when there's no scumgames to compare it against to make sure she can't fake?

Uhhh, who gives a fuck about meta?

ffery

ask me why i know mastin is town

100 people surveyed, top 3 answers on the board. "Why does Zmuffin know mastin is town?"
AngryPidgeon: Uhhh, is it that Mastin isn't on his scumteam, Richard?
Richard: A bold answer, lets see what the people SAID!!

DING DING DING, #1 answer!!!

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That flashwagon actually was one of the worst things i've seen.

Vote: Metal Sonic

Venmar could teach classes about how to :townpost:

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That's what happens when I hydra with one of the highest-presence players on site :/

I'll ask you some ?s if it'll make you feel better ; )

Kagami - Townish. I like where her attention is. Not afraid to give out opinions, doesn't feel nervous.
Aegor - Town.

It was, and I'm sure there was a bad vote on it, but I don't really think it's this one. It's quite in character.

If you are going to say this, then offer up an opinion on what vote was bad? To me, that wagon was null-ville. I expect maybe a scumvote on it or two, but I don't have any way of knowing/caring what is what. You are bringing this up like its important and not offering anything on the matter, really.

You and I are going to be friends I think.

But you literally just said that MS's vote was par for the course. Now someone gets townpoints for criticizing MS? Uhh.

hella

Don't make me policly lynch you for saying "hella"

P-edit: Hi Nacho

Ugh work is actually making me do work, bbl.

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I'm not commenting at all on pieguyn yet. As for Mastin, I mostly want to see what Nacho thinks right now.

Oh mastin is town as fuck.

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Also this is not a good entry post: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p5639627

Ceph continues to look bad, and I don't understand the townreads there at all.

You and I will take over the world together. (Not really though, a lot of your reads are meh : ()

Ugh Im on P10 and I can't stand all of everyones quote wall wars. You all get a readslist instead, suck it:

Town: Metal Sonic, Aegor, Kagami, mastin2, orcinus
Par for the course: Cabd, Sangres, Skull, Brian, Varsoon, Venmar, MafiaSSK

Scummy: Pieguy, Zmuffin, Flandre, Cephrir, Kaze
Meh: Dan, MollieMac

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How do I tell the difference between bro and the other dude

Minor differences in lexical usages. I use more contractions than AP does (which is to say that I contract 99+% of contractable things, and AP contracts more like 80%), and I also tend to have more concise writing. Also, if super technical terms come out, it's me.

-BRO, for those who couldn't tell ^_^*

*AP also doesn't use ^_^

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And AP tends to start sentences with naughty conjunctions like "and" and "but", unlike BRO

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^ You can distance all you guys want, Angry P is still going to shoot you in the face tonight.

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UNVOTE: whoever (mastin?)
VOTE: Cephrir

All aboard that scum wagon.

P-edit: Join me, bus for cred before its too late.

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[7] mastin2 (Angry Frat Bros)

Dan, vote Cephrir with me and I won't serial kill you tonight.

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Dan, vote Cephrir with me and I won't serial kill you tonight.

Oops, I typed vigilante but my phone auto-corrected it to SK, LOL.

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Mollie is confirmed town.

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votehimvotehimvotehimvotehimvotehimvotehimvotehimvotehimvotehimvotehimvotehimvotehimvotehimvotehimvotehim

Dan might be mafia. his posts look sort of town, but I'm not seeing Dan-town specifically here.

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I have no idea what AFB is doing or why but that seems to be the name of this game. Besides, we wouldn't be playing mafia if I wasn't a D1 wagon, so I guess we might as well get it out of the way now.

This is scum. Lynch this.

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This is not a natural progression of reads.

mastin how the hell did you townread us off one freakin' post holy shit? that's a cause for concern.

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Mountain, Black Lotus, Sack for fuck it so much overkill, Destroy Cephrir.

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Mountain, Mox Jet, Destroy Cephrir.

ftfy

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Mastin is ridiculously town and not to be lynched ever this game, dear god.

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lets recap

skulldug asks me why im hated and why i stop being hated

if this isnt a blatantly stupid attempt at rolefishing for flavor and other shit about my role i dont know what is

This is the dumbest case I've ever read. Stop being god-awful at scumhunting.

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But yes bro what do you think of our dear other neighbor who has been going offensive on us since rvs?

Probably town for his paranoia about the neighborhood having scum in it.

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Ffery. stop being useless. Its making you hard to read.

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ok you probably should save it because Venmar is town as fuck.

Dan, lets be awesome Town Douchebag Masons this game. I think Im getting your perspective this game.

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Pieguy is the one who claimed Bodyguard? Then no. We should be lynching Cephrir, Flandre, Kaze.

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Everything Flandre does reads overly cautious. The RVS vote on Brian and then unvote in the next post. Explaining away their posting being scummy by explaining they are intentionally meta-dodging and then joking about deserving a PL for it. Reads very self-aware and concerned and controlled.

Nothing the slot does looks very genuine in general and the suspicions are fairly throw away.

Their attention is on kind of weird places...engaging Orcinus about Skull to no satisfying conclusion instead of discussing their scumreads and all. Silly. Scum. Lynch. Burn.

Why do you care which head this is; if you are unale to distinguish us, then any meta you have on us is probably shit.

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^_^

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Fine, fine, we can lynch MS after Cephrir.

I think MS is just being a silly though.

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Oh right, zMuffin is still hillariously scum. Anyone want to quicklynch that?

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K so MS is still probably just a dummy.

Mastin is still town as hell.

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Honestly I have no case on Venmar except lots of OMGUS

Admitting that right now >.>

Is it a coincidence that you admit this only after two people call you scummy for it?

Because hes derping?

Fuck.

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Mind telling me about pie for a sec? I'm not very good at reading him, and I don't see how the supposed RQ makes him town.

The bodyguard claim makes him town. Hes going to end up dying eventually. worst case scenario, he claims to be blocked indefinitely..which means scum would be wasting an RB on a bodyguard. If hes faking that shit then it should become obvious eventually. But there is no way in hell we are lynching him or talking about him for the rest of Today.

Hm. Am I not taking this as seriously as I should be? Because I'm not feeling scummy intent behind Skull's questioning of Orci.

See guys, even the mafia team can't find scum intent behind Skull's rolefishing.

Wow. I feel a really defensive OMGUSy tone coming from you. Awkward.

Seriously, this is scum. Cheap potshots at MS that don't really scumhunt him at all, but just point out what other people are already scumreading him over. Its buddying to everyone scumreading MS and this is mafia aligned even if MS flips scum.

Why would scum fakeclaim a role expected to die before endgame?

Mind telling me about pie for a sec? I'm not very good at reading him

Are you even trying anymore?

HELP ME RED PIE, GUYS.

PIE MUST BE TOWN BECAUSE HE WOULDN'T DO X AS SCUM, RIGHT.

Da Herp de derp derp. YOU ARE ALL WELCOME TO ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG ABOUT KAZE AND LYNCH THIS CLOWN ANY DAY NOW

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I am not responding to certain posts right now. This is me acknowledging that.

DON'T MIND ME. IM GOING TO FAKE BEING UPSET AND THEN JUST COAST AND AVOID ACTUALLY DOING ANYTHING THAT LOOKS REMOTELY TOWN BECAUSE FUCK YOU I DO WHAT I WANT

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That MafiaSSK has managed to lurk this much is distressing. I am awaiting a kick-ass post after the prod.

I hope you are prepared to be disappointed.

Also 819 is one of the towniest posts ever. Aegor is basically confirmed town.

salad

THIS IS NOT BEEFY

How do you know the salad isn't beefy? Clearly you have inside information, FOS Varsoon.

But for what purpose would you join your own wagon? I don't get it. You're basically contributing to your own possible lynch.

I wanted to see what would happen and make people uncomfortable. Think about it this way: if every game starts the same way or in a similar fashion, then people can just imitate their usual reactions.

Brian. The not-town aligned player is trying to appear busy by asking you bullshit questions that don't lead anywhere. PSA. Lets not help them appear busy.

I lack the confidence and awareness to say whether it was primarily town-driven or scum-driven, because quite frankly, I don't know. Personally, I would want that wagon to be scum-driven, except town can just as easily drive an early wagon up (and they do do this).

Or maybe its roughly an equal spread of 25% scum, 75% town like the overall distribution probably is. It could be anything.

Oh, you're not a bulletproof this game?

Maybe / maybe-not. Would you like to be bulletproof this game?

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I feel pretty sure that in this player list it will get sorted out pretty soon.

Ffery, the not-town aligned player is distracting you with fake paranoia about a claim that can and should be completely ignored.

Stop helping him look busy.

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mastin2- Not scum, nor am I surprised you have a hunch(ish) about who I am. That being said, there are other plays I'm shocked have not let on an idea of my main.

sangres- Brilliant vote, I must say. In the spirit of naked votes, I raise you one:

VOTE: Aegor

ActionDan- Is this the part where we sing a duet of A whole new world or Hakuna Matata?

Brian Skies- Using intentional ragequits is a bannable offense I believe.

Tryingto be cutesy about Sangres's vote on them.
Voting an obviously town-aligned player.
Engaging action dan about nothing.

Wow this post looks so town-aligned.

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A fair point. Did I ask Orcinus about anything other than his hated claim, though? No. No I did not. Would someone be so kind as to point this out to Orc? He obviously isn't listening to me (probably because he doesn't want to admit that he's wrong).

Why are you hated and why do you stop being hated on Night 2?

What are you trying to show here? All I see is evidence that Skull only asked you about being hated and Skull asserting that he only asked you about being hated.

I see evidence of your Skull read being confirmation biasy and terrible.

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Orc, have you really seen nothing more suspicious in this thread than Skull arguably rolefishing you in one place? Why are you content to be a one vote wagon on him (and not seeming very worried about no one listening to you), and why are you ignoring how town he is otherwise?

Please. Why are YOU ignoring how ridiculously town Orcinus is being. His suspicions are pretty town motivated, hes just horribly wrong.

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Town players: Brian, MacMollie, Kagami, Aegor, Venmar
Still town, just a little less so: mastin2, sangres, orcinus, Skull, ActionDan

Probably town for the claim: Pieguy

Meh?
Metal Sonic - Leaning town here, but not extremely confident. Spammy nature and general lack of control of content reads town.
Varsoon - I need to scumread him at some point and vote him and see if he gets upset about it. Him being sick could make me think hes just being passively scummy here.
Cabd - Really, why are you voteparking mastin so hard?
MafiaSSK - Can't actually remember anything he's done, but its MafiaSSK so :hitoshrug:

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Varsoon - I need to scumread him at some point and vote him and see if he gets upset about it.

Him being sick could make me think hes just being passively scummy here.

That is the biggest stretch I have ever seen really???

I'm used to him being more aggro?

So?

Im not even scumreading him, lmao.

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Yes, but lets stop asking MS pointless questions and lynch people who are actually scummy.

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I hate all of these sentences. Most notably the first one. You can tell me all you want how it's actually a town mindset to hold one's cards close to one's chest (which I also happen not to believe, thinking about inventing suspicions is a scum mindset) but actually coming out and saying "I need to fake scumread this person" is just an attempt to look town because you've completely invalidated your own point.

Which point did I invalidate??

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Looking back at your reads list I see exactly one read that actually surprises me and it's mollie. I can't fathom how you could be townreading her right now for being useless.

Because Mollie is a book and she isn't being useless?

What is your MafiaSSK read exactly?

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What are your scumreads. I'll tell you right now how good they are.

Like I haven't been pretty explicit about my reads?

zMuffin, Cephrir, Kaze, Flandre

Maybe Flandre is a little less so than the other 3

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Ew meta, abort conversation, abort the question.

Stop misreading people who play to their meta. TIA

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I don't have a read on SSK. I don't think I ever have or in all probability will, in any game ever.

That doesn't mean I don't expect other people to try.

Also, telling ffery to ignore meta is like telling her to stop breathing. You know this.

I can wish.

Meta is only actually good for invalidating scum/town tells on people. Not generating them.

You can't do it anymore once you say that.

Kind of. I get the impression he isn't reading everything : P
And I would never blatantly reaction test someone like that to see if they raged. Far too generic of a thing to look for. Im sure Varsoon is totally capable of being upset when hes scum.
I do WANT him to rage though because I think it will make him more transparent.

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FWIW, I have MafiaSSK on the scummy side of null after reading his ISO

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Are you not the head that was flipping their shit on me AFB? You suddenly started treating me like a real person.

Oops, must be because I'm scum and know you are town. Fuck I hate scumslipping.

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The "I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed" card, Cephrir?

That is almost enough to make me switch to loltunneling on zMuffin instead. Im upset that people are townreading that guy.

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Ugh, Kagami, you were doing so well.

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But if you keep spouting moonbeam posts everywhere Im going to get paranoid and start scumreading you.

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Because the typical method that moderators are balancing daytalk these days is by giving it to both factions.

So why are you assuming the neighborhood is all town?

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You have independent townreads on all 3 of us?

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if anyone in the neighborhood is scum, it's you, but I think all three are town.

Ok whatever, just stop making 9001 assumptions about gamestate and would-do's before getting reads on people.

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Ffery, what is your current summary of cabd?

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Cabd - Really, why are you voteparking mastin so hard?

Because fuck your read of him, his reads make zero sense, that's why.

Ya, but thats more a mastin tell and less of a scumtell.

I thought he felt pretty unafraid to say what he wanted to say which is townie.

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PEdit: It's not a mastin tell because this doesn't look like his scummeta.

I'm saying mastin s prone to just vomiting reads as either alignment. Probably more often as town though.

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Cabd you aren't allowed to make any important decisions until you start reading mastin correctly.

What is this fuzzy logic business?

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OMG A FAKE INNOCENT CHILD CLAIM.

MUCH EMOTION.


MANY FUCKS.

CHANGES EVERYTHING.

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Curious, how was Nacho confirmed Town in that game?

Still wow at that lylo.

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lmao what the fuck.

Derp x infinity.

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Can we lynch someone already.

Everyone list your top 4 and we wagon the highest count person?

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Linguistics homework, catchup in this game.

Best during-superbowl activity ever.

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Why can't I be part of your townblock, Cabd

:C

MetalSonic might need a policy lynch sooner than later.

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Why can't I be part of your townblock, Cabd

:C

MetalSonic might need a policy lynch sooner than later.

Keep calm and lynch actual scum.

Golly zMuffin is super aware about who is reading him how despite needing to read the game. I wonder why that is.

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BRO is lurking because hes upset that we drew scum. Lets just pretend its both of our reads on you.

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Gut.

BROseidon will not defend you from my pidgeony wrath.

Or maybe this has been BRO the entire time.

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Seriously, how else am I supposed to read your type of playstyle. You are playing a style where you just post whatever you feel. Nothing you've posted looks genuinely town motivated.

So yes, in this case, that makes you scummy. Risk you take when you bare your soul.

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i don't think bro is bad enough to think i'm scum here

I'm sure BRO is flattered, bu I'm going to buddy him before you do ^^

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Mollie has posted emotional reactions to things in the thread that make me feel like she is seeing events from a town motivated lens.

You are just posting whatever you want and ascribing your townieness to lolmetathisishowipost.

Mollie's posting in general looks like she is unafraid to take stances that she will need to defend later.

She is playing her own game instead (I like where her attention is) and her confidence feels about right for what she is doing.

You, on the other hand, are forcing your way into conversations awkwardly, not really doing anything extremely useful, and posting random stuff that Im having a hard time buying you are actually interested in. You are playing the players, mollie is playing the game.

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you're going to be severely disappointed if you're hoping for me to do something useful

Its like you want to be policy lynched.

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If I pretend to dayvig zMuffin, will people be dumb enough to fall for it?

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Votecount 1.9

[5] mastin2 (Cephrir, pieguyn, Cabd, Metal Sonic, Varsoon)
[3] Aegor (macmollie, Skullduggery, Flandre Scarlet)
[3] Cephrir (Angry Frat BROs, ActionDan, mastin2)
[2] Metal Sonic (Venmar, Kazekirimaru)
[2] Flandre Scarlet (zMuffinMan, sangres)
[1] Brian Skies (Brian Skies)
[1] Kazekirimaru (Aegor)
[1] Skullduggery (orcinus_theoriginal)

[2] Not Voting (Kagami, MafiaSSK)

With 20 alive, it is 11 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2014-02-09 21:00:00)

K so both of the top 2 wagons are on town. I could support Flandre and maybe MS if I do some soul searching, but rather not.

Brian, be useful with your vote, tia. Same for Kag and MafiaSSK. Same for Orcinus.

Lets actually start getting wagons that are meaningful. So this doesn't become yet another herpaderpderp D1 deadline extravaganza.

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I think MafiaSSK is a pretty good lynch actually.

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MafiaSSK is actually just scum though.

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You are free to misread him off of meta if you want.

His zMuffin vote is uninspiredly terrible and his "Im not seeing the mastin pressure, someone explain it to me??" is pointless 100%.

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Why is aegor very obviously town?

He isn't trying to force opinions that he doesn't have despite it being easy/popular to do so (Brian wagon).

His frustration about Skull reads legitimate.

He's voting probable scum.

His defenses at various points read honest.

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Oh and he is buddying mastin all game for no real reason and offering casual defense of him.

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AcitonDan

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Oh!

Just realized.

Fuck yeah, this game's a town win.

BRO is town.
Nacho is town.

They never lose.

We win.

This works out regardless of Nacho's alignment. I've never lost to Nacho's scum game, nor has he ever defeated mine ^_^

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muffin's IC claim was stupid but null.

^ shit like this is why Aegor is obvious town.

Hes concise, clear, and down to business. (to defeat the huns).

Every townie WISHES they could be as protown as this guy.

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Since when?

Since he tried to wagon zMuffin for faking an IC claim?

Actually MetalSonic's reaction was worse, I think we'd be willing to compromise on MS today even though he isn't our top lynch.

Are not as good as butts.

While true, what the hell in that post made you declare that? There was literally nothing in 773 that I wouldn't also post as scum.

I wish I could point to concrete things, but its really just your overall attitude. I like where your emphasis has been; you feel like you are genuinely trying to convey opinions as you have them. You feel open. I guess compare to Anything Goes where everything you did felt more calculated.

because BRO BECOMES the guy he's hydraing with. )

We definitely fused together a little bit (to become Gotenks) in our Hydra last game. Sort of mutual.

@Mastin: Ok I'll give you the SSK townread for the time being. He doesn't feel particularly excited about lynching scummies though which I know he is capable of.

EBWOP: In case you can't tell. That was sarcasm. AFB just never told anyone why I was scummy which is scummy. So yeah.

I made a post about it iirc. And muffin flipping scum doesn't make you town.

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oh thank god frat bros are town

I think muffina is too

I hate having to walk eggshells around you but the truth of the matter is that I do. but there is no "fault" for the quantity of my posts.

mastin how the hell did you townread us off one freakin' post holy shit? that's a cause for concern.

town looking posts

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I'm not convinced of AP's townread on orcinus. We probably don't want to lynch him, but hes firmly in the "sort later" pile along with cabd ^_^

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785 gave me the heebie jeebes, but that happens to anyone who tries to direct PRs, especially in the roundabout way MS is doing it here. the only way directing a PR works is when town agrees on it. (aka the PLAN from gears!)

Actually, I just noticed that.

Do not investigate inside my neighborhood, I will policy lynch you. ESPECIALLY not metal sonic after that post.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Kaze's 810 is terrible. starts off with questioning why pie is town, ends up questioning mastin on why pie is scum fakeclaiming bodyguard. He just moved into my scumpile.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting it?

No, you are reading it properly. Kaze is a scummy butt.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Though succinctness is always appreciated, this can easily be attributed to playstyle.

Discount my townread on Aegor with no follow up on understanding it or me?
Scum. Scum concerned that Aegor isn't mislynchable while Im around.

Aegor is town because he isn't waffling on things that don't matter. He isn't misting things up. He addresses things that people are concerned about but focuses on what is relevant to him. Town.

--
I don't want MS investigated because his post makes me think he could be investigation immune if scum. He mentioned hoping the neighborhood is sorted out via investigates...well guess who is the most likely target for an investigate out of me/Venmar/MS...If you answered MS, you'd be obviously correct. So either MS is too dumb to see this or is too dumb to realize that getting himself investigated doesnt actually learn him anything about me/Venmar. Lets just steer clear of the WIFOM and invetigate outside my neighborhood. Also I'm just flatout town and that will be even MORE apparent as we go, so lets not waste one on me. Venmar would be an o.k. investigate, but I think hes probably town anyhow.

Yes Im not voting you because there are plenty of other scummy people who crave votes. You can wait.

[Angry Frat BROs]

UNVOTE: ; VOTE: Metal Sonic

Uhhh, guys we need a lynch.

This is one that we can both agree on.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Hi Dan ^_^

Are you the mason buddy Im trying to find with night actions?

[Angry Frat BROs]

I'll give you a moment to let that sink in.

Wanna wagon MS for fun?

[Angry Frat BROs]

Its probably me. Im a bulletproof universal masonizer cop.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Why do you want to know?
Lol @ Kaze. You took the rest of that claim seriously?

[Angry Frat BROs]

For the love of fuck.

Stop waffling about lurkers and talk about compromise wagons.

[Angry Frat BROs]

macmollie's postcount worries me.

So you think they're lurking?

FS is scummy. Like my ISO indicates.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Hi Gooner!! I was actually just thinking you are someone I wanted to play another game with.

[Angry Frat BROs]

My reason to protect FS from the lynch has vanished mysteriously

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Flandre

ActionDan...could I interest you in

BEING MOTHERFUCKING BULLETPROOF?

[Angry Frat BROs]

(This may or may not be a softclaim of my role)

[Angry Frat BROs]

@Ffery: Who gives a flying fuck if I think MacMollie is TECHNICALLY a lurker.

Yes, their activity sucks. No, activity should not ever EVEr ever be used as an alignment tell.

[Angry Frat BROs]

That's not a bus-vote.

THIS is a bus-vote.

Desire to serial kill mastin...rising..

I'm glad BRO has a townread on Cabd so I can blame him when Cabd turns out to actually just be scum this game. Cause my paranoia seems to be in sync with Cbads paranoia of himself.

[Angry Frat BROs]

So much for being able to read me, AAM. (God it feels so GOOD to tease you with that name)

Oh I think you are town, but I just dunno why and I want to scumread you just in case cause Id rather be paranoid about you and wrong than call you town and get blindsided

/blowing towncred
/

[Angry Frat BROs]

Let's say Flandre actually does claim something that knocks our collective socks off. Realistically, who else replaces him on the chopping block?

--

((mollie)) : ))

[Angry Frat BROs]

I dunno I kinda feel like I could be a switch

......ANYWAY

Meanwhile, back in this thread.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Someone explain why Flandre is being wagoned to my lazy ass.

I'm just here for the free food.

[Angry Frat BROs]

I'm concerned about the absence of a counter-wagon

I'm pretty sure this was the CW to my metal sonic wagon. ^_^

[Angry Frat BROs]

That said, anyone else want to wagon ScumKagami with me? Last chance.

I'll also accept MS. I really don't want to see that guy make it to LyLo at any rate.

Really. This FS wagon feels meh and I'm not the hugest fan of compromise.

Mastin, you were townreading this scummy bullshit iirc?

I'll let you have your SSK townread, but this is scum, bro.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Oh nevermind, it was zMuffin that you were townreading.

[Angry Frat BROs]

bro is nicer than angry

hi muffin

BRO is like the nice forgiving mom of this hydra and Im the disappointed dad.

Or maybe I'm the entire hydra and no one has figured it out yet ^_^

[Angry Frat BROs]

mastin, venmar, skull, AFB, orcinus, AD, varsoon
aegor, mollie, sangres
flandre, kaze
brian-slot
cephrir
cabd

Annotate this.

[Angry Frat BROs]

More voting

with

of me is required for good lynch.

ftfy

[Angry Frat BROs]

Mastin, your SSK townread is dubious. Like maybe he

is

town, but his posts are not really indicating that. Im still seeing him as 'meh' leaning towards 'hmm'.

[Angry Frat BROs]

bro is nicer than angry

hi muffin

BRO is like the nice forgiving mom of this hydra and Im the disappointed dad.

Or maybe I'm the entire hydra and no one has figured it out yet ^_^

Wait what?

I yell at people and ad hom when they're being stupid.

[Angry Frat BROs]

ALBEDO
you white-headed freak, come here and hug your brother

HUGS

[Angry Frat BROs]

The current composition of the wagon on me. The disguised policy lynch is amusing, to say the least.

No, this is just a compromise lynch.

Good lynches (Ceph, Kaze) and PLs Id support (MS) are not happening apparently.

That said the "Im being survivalistic" didnt feel town to me. Nothing FS has done looks town to me.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Who is certain about Orci being town?

Im having doubts.

[Angry Frat BROs]

why the ms hate, is this bro or ap

Ap.

I dont exactly have a townread on him and hes going to be a distraction.

[Angry Frat BROs]

That doesn't make sense to assume AFB is a SK...

Well it's a good thing I'm not assuming AFB is then.

Sure it does! Our PM has grey text in it and some flavor about going insane tdue to being in the military and fuck lal these people they need to die.

Whats not to assume?

[Angry Frat BROs]

Yeah here it is, the thing with AFB. Now this could be a Freudian slip that AFB is an SK. In particular Broseidon's excuse seems odd:

I like gooner, but if he actually believes this then he needs to reevaluate his life.

[Angry Frat BROs]

There is no wifom. Just hilarious jokez. If Im making hilarious jokez, Im town aligned.

[Angry Frat BROs]

There is no wifom. Just hilarious jokez. If Im making hilarious jokez, Im town aligned.

But what if your jokez aren't funny???

Potential scumtell.

[Angry Frat BROs]

VOTE: Kagami

@MS/Venmar: Ya its just Kagami, wagon ho.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Good news BRO, you don't have to give me your read on Varsoon anymore.

[Angry Frat BROs]

(Every post after this one needs to contain a vote for Kagami)

[Angry Frat BROs]

Also why the hell did Varsoon die. I was sort of expecting Sangres or maybe Dan.

[Angry Frat BROs]

i want to lynch from this group today: {flandre, MS, kagami, cabd, kaze, cephrir} roughly in order of most to least desired lynches

Gonna sheep this list forever, k?
Except I give more leverage to Kaze and MS.

For reference.

Now everybody quicklynch Kagami plz.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Ffery, convince me that you didn't bus Flandre to shit. K thanks.

[Angry Frat BROs]

I kinda feel two scum in {pieguyn, mastin2, zMuffinMan} but it's a gut instinct more than anything. But, I feel like part of the wagon on mastin2 is a burden of proficiency wagon.

^ All of these will probably flip town.

I feel like there's one scum in {Aegor, Skullduggery}

Both of these will probably flip town.

I'm liking orcinus_theoriginal's hated claim.

hmmmmmmm

So, I'm thinking Kazekirimaru is kinda town in regards where he's asking people why their reads disagree with them and opening himself up to different ideas.

I like Brian Skies catch up posts, they felt genuine, along with his reaction to the flashwagon.

The macmollie/sangres interaction felt like a TvT to me.

Hmmmmmm

[Angry Frat BROs]

No its not

[Angry Frat BROs]

And that doesnt even confirm his alignment just his role.

New Cabd read: lynchable under fuzzy logic pact

[Angry Frat BROs]

Btw, both Cabd and Metal Sonic are incredibly likely scum.

Why

Quoted because I know masstin is going to give a vague answer and I want her to elaborate with specific posts/points rather than just asserting its gut and because of meta.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Varsoon's scumreads on both

Hm, I'd buy MS a little more than Cabd here.

It felt a bit -blatant- for scum Cabd to kill Varsoon, ESPECIALLY since Cabd himself is/was not in danger of being lynched Today.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Ok so who is in the neighborhood other than you/mollie?

[Angry Frat BROs]

Also lets be realistic here. I find it unlikely that Flandre would 'slip' about something like that if they knew about a neighborhood. Maybe, but it seems like something scum would consciously avoid like that black plague.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Holy shit that's a huge neighborhood.

[Angry Frat BROs]

I would lynch Gooner potentially.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Now, what do you make of Flandre mentioning all fucking five of us?

That there is probably a scum in the neighborhood?

(Or Bork gave them info about it anyhow in which case I'll hate him).

Color me shocked ffery, you guys managed to deduce that there is likely scum in a 5 person neighborhood.

[Angry Frat BROs]

FoS:

Sangres

[Angry Frat BROs]

Dan/Cabd: What are your opinions on Sangres. Like don't bullshit me, I want realtalk. Are there good reasons that I should be townreading Sangres right now?

[Angry Frat BROs]

Why would Flandre, in an act of survivalism, add momentum to a counter-wagon on his own partner when he could have just as easily joined the equally viable Metal Sonic, Muffin, or Mastin wagons?

Because Flandre was obviously going to die and this was likely just some last minute distancing.

[Angry Frat BROs]

All of this talk about people that aren't Kagami is boring.

[Angry Frat BROs]

I'm concerned about the absence of a counter-wagon

Soft defending of Flandre.

I don't think all the scum would be on-board this as a bus if Flandre is scum, and I think they would be pushing an alternative wagon in the hopes for a mislynch rather than a scum-lynch. The lack of a counter-wagon suggests to me that they are happy with the current lynch.

I view the FS lynch as policy. She has certainly done just about nothing, but she's hardly the only one. The scummiest thing flandre has done so far is to refuse to divulge her main account; but I think that's just as likely anti-town town behavior as anti-town scum behavior. The appeal to "survivalism" is also kind of bad, but falls in the same category, imo. Still not a bad lynch, just a not bad policy lynch.

Really shallow wagon analysis, once again casting doubt on the Flandre lynch.

The 2nd part is bonus scum points for distancing from Flandre and still trying to imply it isn't a good lynch despite

saying

that it is.

Urge to rhammer rising...

but no, I like claims, even if they're fake they have value.

Metal Sonic will disagree, but why is Kagami assuming that the claim will be fake here?

No concern that FS was an intentionally lurky cop or something? you want claims in case they are a town PR, not because they may be scum or some bullshit.

Kagami is obvious scum.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Thinking between aegor and ceph for vote. Trying to figure out why Aegor appears as a town-read for some people. Flandre, SSK, and brian are PLs more than anything else to my mind, and I don't think it's useful to entertain a PL while there's still time on the clock.

More soft defending of FS here early on (and BRO pointed out the rule of 3)

[Angry Frat BROs]

Not scum AFB, sorries, or are claiming scum flavor-cop?

This is not a town reaction to being voted.

[Angry Frat BROs]

I've never seen a chief protagonist as fake-claim.

Oh then you must be confirmed town then!~

[Angry Frat BROs]

Ffery, if we are deadset on lynching through your neighborhood with a chainsaw and hatchet, I'd start here (but only after Kag flips maf):

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p5676204

[Angry Frat BROs]

If people wanted to make MS look scummy, then Venmar was obviously the right kill.Killing Varsoon just makes Cabd (mostly) and a few scattered people look bad.

Hell Varsoon even talked about keeping MS alive at one point.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Don't mind Cabd hes just yoloscum who knows hes fucked eventually.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Kagami/Kaze/Skull/Cabd?

Lets just lynch down that list until we hit town, then I'll consider sheeping ffery or something.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Don't mind Cabd hes just yoloscum who knows hes fucked eventually.

I mean I think I disagree but I can never read Cabd properly.

This is town as fuck.

[Angry Frat BROs]

VOTE: AFB

Then what's up with this vote? It seems so OMGUS-ish.

The "I'm confirmed town because of flavor" and "you must be a mafia flavor cop" were worse.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Scum flail is scum and flail.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Dan you think kagami is town?

[Angry Frat BROs]

So if Kagami is scum, Kaze is totally cleared. It makes no sense for scum to derail a scum wagon in favor of a different scum wagon.

and post 1496, which constitute one of the few attempts to question the FS wagon at all. They very well could be nothing, but look mildly worse if Kagami is scum.

Post: 1496 for ref:

Ok,

Vote:Kagami

oops

P-edit: Ya I think so. BRO and I think Venmar townslipped in it. I think MS is townish. Not 100% sold on either of them, but lean town on them for sure.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Angry Frat

But I gave you my heart Dan : (

[Angry Frat BROs]

And maybe something more but lets not talk about that

[Angry Frat BROs]

Oh I forgot gooner is scum too

in our neighborhood qt we also discussed this possibility. yes, we have come to this conclusion as well

By that you mean AP talking to himself?

There is no proof.

[Angry Frat BROs]

I'd like the BG to claim his target, also.

This. Pieguy is free to change up his target every night but there is zero good reason for him not to audit himself for the sake of everyone.\

I also see you have a taste for dramatic irony

I'm glad I can bore you in more ways than one.
But I wanna keep you around cause I think you are pretty obviously town this game.

also i may not be able to vote today. i dunno. need to check with bork

Cut the foreplay and get to the good stuff.

I'll agree that Gooner is somebody I don't feel town from. I hate to call it a gut read but it kind of is. Specifically though his whole "AFB likely SK slipped" and then backpedaling into "WELL its only relevant if there IS an SK" when I OMGUS'd him about it felt like lolscum.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Good news BRO, you don't have to give me your read on Varsoon anymore.

WOOHOO LESS READING.

[Angry Frat BROs]

I kinda feel two scum in {pieguyn, mastin2, zMuffinMan} but it's a gut instinct more than anything. But, I feel like part of the wagon on mastin2 is a burden of proficiency wagon.

^ All of these will probably flip town.

I feel like there's one scum in {Aegor, Skullduggery}

Both of these will probably flip town.

I'm liking orcinus_theoriginal's hated claim.

hmmmmmmm

So, I'm thinking Kazekirimaru is kinda town in regards where he's asking people why their reads disagree with them and opening himself up to different ideas.

I like Brian Skies catch up posts, they felt genuine, along with his reaction to the flashwagon.

The macmollie/sangres interaction felt like a TvT to me.

Hmmmmmm

Eh, good chance of 1 scum/0 scum in those structure groups. Would be too obvious if no scum flipped across 2 structure groups.

Orc-town doesn't not make sense based on the liking the hated claim. Think about us with trollie's PGO claim in AG.

Rest of this is good analysis.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Not scum AFB, sorries, or are claiming scum flavor-cop?

Why would you of either alignment post this when you know we have 2 neighbors who can come in and say that we've wanted you lynched from within N1 (i.e., you're "lol flavor cop" assertion would be made invalid immediately?)

Also, why would you assert flavor cop over role cop?

This doesn't make sense from either-alignment you. It's just outright bad play.

[Angry Frat BROs]

That's me. Now factor Nacho in. good luck.

You run the "hide a bit behind Nacho" play and let Nacho carry you to LyLo?

btw I don't have a read on you since I haven't read like 75% of this game. I'm just poking in ^_^

[Angry Frat BROs]

^ Kagami is claiming VT but thinks that claiming a main character makes her obvtown.

I still think its a scummy play/assumption to be making.

The mafia flavor cop accusation is what gets me though- like Kagami thinks that we realized she has an obviously town claim and decided to push her because of that??

[Angry Frat BROs]

Why would Flandre, in an act of survivalism, add momentum to a counter-wagon on his own partner when he could have just as easily joined the equally viable Metal Sonic, Muffin, or Mastin wagons?

Distancing by "trying" to counter wagon a partner that wouldn't get lynched to buy them towncred?

Something AP brought up during the night was how weirdly easy it was to catch Flandre. I said it implied a scum team that's probably bussing itself into the ground (sort of like what happened in the last Xeno with the day 1 Rach lynch over the easily mislynchable Andy). (Also note that this is with me having read through page 17 with some ISOs as well)

[Angry Frat BROs]

^

Kagami is claiming VT but thinks that claiming a main character makes her obvtown.

I still think its a scummy play/assumption to be making.

The mafia flavor cop accusation is what gets me though- like Kagami thinks that we realized she has an obviously town claim and decided to push her because of that??

lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

not enough l's and o's

[Angry Frat BROs]

That's me. Now factor Nacho in. good luck.

You run the "hide a bit behind Nacho" play and let Nacho carry you to LyLo?

btw I don't have a read on you since I haven't read like 75% of this game. I'm just poking in ^_^

For your speculation to work, I'd have to be, you know, hiding.

I'm just throwing ideas around

I have no idea what the you::Nacho ratio is.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Basically, my hope here is that someone will fly in and confirm me town. If someone can't do that, then I question bork's sanity in choosing roles.

Uh...

I'd question his sanity if this

weren't

the case. Putting flavor-ICs into a game is a shitty-as-fuck way to do things.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Flavor seems to be relevant to role in the other xeno games.

Yeah, but then bork gives scum town fake claims that fit their role.

Like in Xenoblade I was a scum-JK but my fakeclaim was a town-JK that still had solid flavor backing.

[Angry Frat BROs]

fery what do you think of the nk

You aren't going to get anything coherent out of me until I've finished cooking this amazing Farsi inspired chicken curry and repair the kitchen afterwards.

The kill is odd. It looks like maybe low info. Or maybe meant to make MS look scummy.

foodtell!!!!

i choked on my bagel

Pedit this has potential

Hi scum

[Angry Frat BROs]

Angry Frat

But I gave you my heart Dan : (

Aw okay then clearly it's Cephrir. I also see you have a taste for dramatic irony

hawt

[Angry Frat BROs]

I have no idea what the you::Nacho ratio is.

Not as skewed as the me::Syr ratio usually is, but close. Nacho is going to be able to post only on weekends for the foreseeable future. He made several posts in the last 2-3 pages of day 2, and was quite active in the neighborhood QT. Day 2 is all me so far.

Ah kk.

[Angry Frat BROs]

[Angry Frat BROs]

(I'm confirmed town right now so its cool. Ifyou are town lets actually start acting like it cause I REALLY like my new reads today so far)

[Angry Frat BROs]

Gooner, you don't feel like you are trying to catch the mafia team this game.

[Angry Frat BROs]

I rate this post a 2/10 ^

[Angry Frat BROs]

I rate this post a 0/10 because Gooner isn't scum.

....

Right, so somebody self-voting in RVS must be town because they kept getting votes.

And scum-Brian would NEVER do X as scum because ??? and meta.

Bullshit.

And yes I'm so mad, so very mad. I'm moving on to Dan next for calling me scum in that one post.

[Angry Frat BROs]

VOTE: Brian

At this rate, you clowns will be telling me that this ^ conftowns Gooner

[Angry Frat BROs]

Meta doesn't boil down to a list of things a player never/always does as an alignment.

Well gosh Im sure glad you stripped out what your read was on Brian into just the "He self-voted -> town" part of it cause that makes TONS of sense.

I'd have to reread Brian, I think I missed most of the part of the game where he was actually posting. Gooner is definitely not living up to what I know hes capable of though.

gooner is a cool guy. I want to be his bff, but hes breaking my heart in this game.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Can somebody with an actually good townread on mastin explain it to me?

I'm getting paranoid about her again.

Town: Sangres, ActionDan, macmollie
Still town: Venmar, Aegor, Pieguy*
Meh leaning towards "town I guess": Mastin (is a cop though which is why shes lurking and sheeping me here silently), Metal Sonic, zMuffin?, Cephrir (although I hate admitting I was wrong here I think not sure how much my emotions are affecting this)

--
People not listed above:
Kaze, Skull, Cabd, Gooner, MafiaSSK, orcinus_themafia, CAGami

^ Would lynch these people I think. I need to read some early D1 stuff and maybe some ISOs though.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Who are you an alt of, again? Jiffy?

I can't remember.

Flandre has been in games before?

[Angry Frat BROs]

No, I'm trolling AP because he's being bad and doing that thing where he calls obvious town scum again.

Yes Kagami is simply dripping with town motivated play, Nacho.

I get why you think its town, but. its. not. town.

Look at the

motivation

. There is no scumhunting, there is no effort to solve the game, there is no.

Passion

. The defense reads a little town, I'll give you that, but look at the big picture. What is Kagami doing that looks town other than that? The soft defense of Flandre, lumped in with other lurkers was scum plain and simple. Town doesn't lump all the lurkers together and call them policy lynches in a negative way. That is what

I

would do if I were protecting a buddy subtly . It is manipulative scumplay and hraahhhh you have been manipulated. I'm here for you though Nacho to guide you to the light . Kagami's focus on her ROLE and nothing else is from scum. It shows that where her attention is, is, well, forced. If it fit into the bigger picture of trying to find scum it would make sense, but. it. does. not. This is a desperation attempt to look town and it is not working. the vote on us is posturing, the wagon analysis was superficial. You are being manipulated by scum.

p-edit: Skull could be scum. I thought the "Devils Advocate, but why would Flandre bus Kagami" comment was scummy.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Please switch out for BRO, ty.

Give me Cabd's reading speed instead of my below-average-for-a-college-student reading speed and you can have me.

[Angry Frat BROs]

my professional opinion is that Sangres and Angry Frat BROs are scum distancing. And this is all scum theatrics!

I am so good that I can see right through it!

But we had so much fun last night

[Angry Frat BROs]

I asked you a related question earlier, but I'd like to know why you think the really strong (and totally incorrect) conviction Kagami has that her character claim should all but clear her is not a town tell.

Because it's so obviously a stupid assertion to make.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Scum-Mastin is actually manipulative? Scum-Mastin actually fakes my town behavior? Scum-Mastin lacks the charm of the town-me? Scum-Mastin actually has an artificial feeling? Not sure I can actually answer that.

Scum mastin would have been lynched by now?

[Angry Frat BROs]

Also, who is the only player in this playerlist who would kill Varsoon N1?

i don't think varsoon was the scumkill last night, just fyi

Yeah, I was thinking about that, too.

No stop flailing around and lynch mafia. HI BRO

[Angry Frat BROs]

Even if town would do that so softly, they don't make follow up posts down the line, asserting that FS is still a policy lynch although maybe just not a "bad" policy lynch. Distancing, casting doubt on the lynch, scum motivation.

Kagami's post about you being town for fishing about neighborhood's being day/night chat is likely just an effort to distance from knowing that YOU are in one.

Kagami's focus on her role is scummy and the insistence that someone must have investigated her and I'm scum for not waiting for that result is scum scum scum.

If we aren't lynching obvious scum, can we at least lynch Kaze?