Kids TV Show Characters Mafia - Endgame

[Firebringer]

Hey guys, if any of you fools think I am reading 50~ pages, you are crazy.

[Firebringer]

Also I really wish I would have gotten a different character.
This was a horrible character.
Like, did anyone really watch this show as a kid? Asking you Eleven.

[Firebringer]

Hi Welcome!!

Hi, how are you?

[Firebringer]

Also I really wish I would have gotten a different character.
This was a horrible character.
Like, did anyone really watch this show as a kid? Asking you Eleven.

Can't answer this question without you telling us your show.

Why does it matter?

[Firebringer]

It doesn't.

Okay, so want to give me sums?

[Firebringer]

It doesn't.

Okay, so want to give me sums?

Not particularly, no.

You are rude:
VOTE: Imperium

[Firebringer]

UNVOTE:

Can we just lynch someone and Ill get my footing tomrrow?
I am lazy.

[Firebringer]

UNVOTE:

Can we just lynch someone and Ill get my footing tomrrow?
I am lazy.

I suggest this Waco Kid person, Anti doesnt like him and i dont have a townread there.

-Luna

HI LUNA FRIEND!

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Waco

[Firebringer]

I come back after 24 hours and there's wagons on two of my town reads?

Ugh I hate you all. Time to actually read shit.

Waco is a town read?
I can understand ~

not feeling it

~, but a townread seems like something that should be a bit more tangible.

My gut on his first few posts was "seems pretty town." Not very strong, but I'd rather go like 5 different places today.

which 5 places?

Grib
Farside
Key
Transcend
DS
Firebringer
kraska
Probably Snarky, tbh?

So yeah it's actually more than 5.

Thats quite a bit more than 5.
Kind of thinking Bro is town for this.

[Firebringer]

I just lost a mafia game, can someone hug me?

[Firebringer]

PEdit: I hope Firebringer has a super powerful, ultra swingy role again. I mean, he'll likely screw town over with it, but it's still hilarious to watch him struggle. He did it in Machina and UNI MUM (and he commited suicide with his Lucid Dreamer role in UNI MUM)

Shhhhh you might out me.

[Firebringer]

Also, Yay Firebringer!

This is suspicious, since when did Kats like me?

[Firebringer]

omg, I remember the wiggles.....
Tv shows were weird.

[Firebringer]

I just lost a mafia game, can someone hug me?

I'm sorry to hear that.
If it makes you feel any better, I just won two; so if you're town, you're in good hands.

That doesn't make me feel any better.....

[Firebringer]

Keyenhdhdjsn is a townread
I replaced into his slot in a game before (scum slot), he was giving super left field votes over there...his posts were completely offbeat from the context of the thread and his tone was accusatory
I've isod him here and he seems more interactive and sheep-y

Oh you replaced me? Cool.
Call me Keyen or Key. Read my signature. am not Keyen-"whateverthefuckyoutyped"

You change avatar today?
I like this one.

[Firebringer]

I thought the fact bro had like 9 people he was ready and willing to lynch was townie....
Scum wouldn't be likely to list so many people on the chopping block I don't think.
Getting null from the rest of his posts though.

[Firebringer]

Aww and i was doing so well ;_;

I am taking away your hydra Ms Mcloud.

[Firebringer]

Can we just end day because it's really boring for me. Everybody is like back and forth leaving us more confused. We need to stick to things sometimes.

We can if we lynch Waco like people were saying like 10 pages ago.

[Firebringer]

Whats an example of a do something question?

^ Continuing the do nothing question tradition.

[Firebringer]

I had an interesting night....

VOTE: Spiffeh

[Firebringer]

VOTE: spiffeh

FB am I doing it right???

Yes, you are.

[Firebringer]

Friendly neighbor isn't a particularly powerful role?

No, it isn't.

[Firebringer]

Ok guys but I'm town so

What did you do last night?

[Firebringer]

Firebringer do you have something you'd like to share?

Because if you're implying that I performed an action last night that is fucking bullshit

And I'm getting quicklynched for whatever you're implying

So spit it out

Rolefishing.

Also, I do have a guilty on you, but I am not going to explain it till tomorrow, if I live.
UNVOTE:

We don't need to quicklynch you though.

[Firebringer]

OK GUYS I WILL BE FLIPPING TOWN SO

FIREBRINGER NEEDS TO EXPLAIN THE EXACT NATURE OF HIS GUILTY ON ME NOW SO HE CAN'T WEASEL HIS WAY OUT OF IT TOMORROW IF HE'S SCUM

If you flip Town he gets lynched tomorrow for lying about a guilty.

Why are you not claiming again?

This

[Firebringer]

I'm VT

Clifford from Clifford the Big Red Dog

Nope

[Firebringer]

FB, do you really truly think there's no reason for you to claim -- it's not like you arent going to be an nk target, literally no matter what

Not really, but with scum like Spiffeh so desperately trying to push for me to claim, not eager to as well.

[Firebringer]

Also I really do think theres likely a protective in this game. Call it gut.

[Firebringer]

I believe as long as you don't hide the fact that a cop is insane/sane then its not bastard.

I believe framer is non normal, but not bastard.

Pretty sure my results aren't screwed with.

[Firebringer]

@Mod Can we have deadlines in the future VCs?

Please and thank you

Oops, forgot to add it. Yeah, edited in to last one too. ~ Mod

[Firebringer]

Spiffeh, what are your scumreads because I have heard alot of town reads.
But I am not getting any scum

[Firebringer]

We aren't lynching 24 hours into the game day.

[Firebringer]

WHat is off to me about spiffeh here is that his tone looks town, but then he posts stuff fake like he knows what I would do as scum or town.
He did that exact same thing Power as scum. He pretended he knew how I operate and it was fake as fuck, and I called him out on the fake read then.

[Firebringer]

Also: Why the fuck are we forming counter-wagons when we have a fucking guilty.

1. FB fake-guilties all the time.

2. Spiffeh has shown no mechanical inconsistencies, and there are people who haven't found him terribly scummy.

3. FB has shown numerous red flags. e.g.

"Let's slow down this wagon" - This is a classic red-flag, which points to a fake-guilty.

He also tried to "reason out his vote" when he had a guilty, which should have been the only reason he needed.

VOTE: DiamondSentinel

This needs pressure, you are downright lying in this.

[Firebringer]

I don't actually have a guilty on Spiffeh, but seriously DS acts like he knew my result was a lie.
I don't like it at all, and he claims I fake guilty all the time.

[Firebringer]

I am a power role, come at me scum.

[Firebringer]

Also, FB. It's not

just

that you have a history of fake guilties. It's that you have a history of terrible gambits that very very easily could blow up in our face.

Bullshit.

(I'm looking at Machina Mafia when you threatened to go rogue...)

I didn't fucking fake a guilty on a player.

[Firebringer]

I didn't say you faked a guilty. I said you threatened to go rogue and not listen to the will of the town.

That wasn't a threat. I literally didn't give a shit what town said.

[Firebringer]

Also, how was me threatening to go rogue equivalent to this scenario?

[Firebringer]

I am 99% certain DS knew my guilty was a lie as a result of being informed

[Firebringer]

So, you guys are voting to lynch me...

Because I recognized a shitty gambit/fake guilty?

This is especially terrible.

PEdit: It was objectively bad play. Same as here.

Firebringer, how often does one of your shitty gambits

actually

work out?

Can you actually name any gambits I have done, ever?

[Firebringer]

So, you guys are voting to lynch me...

Because I recognized a shitty gambit/fake guilty?

This is especially terrible.

PEdit: It was objectively bad play. Same as here.

Firebringer, how often does one of your shitty gambits

actually

work out?

Can you actually name any gambits I have done, ever?

Can you not answer my question with a question?

You keep acting like I am known for doing this, when maybe 6 games out of my 120~ games on this site I have done some form of role lying/results faking.

Like, none of those you were even in.
So where the fuck are you coming up with this fake meta?

[Firebringer]

i hard defended nacho remember

defend more scum and ill give you a townread on the house.
Start with DS

[Firebringer]

wait i just realized firebringer is in this game

sup dude

DS is definitely scummy and I think some people voting him are slightly justified

but i think they're wrong

How did you not realize I was in the game?
Half the day has been talking about my "guilty" on Spiffeh, and you even then went on to vote him?

Also, hi.

But you are seriously on my watch list rn this post is weird as fuck.

[Firebringer]

hey why is spiffeh escaping rope lol

Fire said the claim was fake.

Some players voting DS are on my scum list.
I wouldn't touch that with a 20 foot pole.
My scum list is too long for words.

Bro, Cephrir, hippy, kdowns.
Leaning scum: fire (this is a gut read) mj

I mean, have you been reading DS posts this day?

[Firebringer]

Ceph town
Hip null scum
Fire null
Key town
Kd town
Spiff scum
Bro null
Diamond lean town
Mj scum
Far town
Moi town
Grib town
Snarky lean town

Don't know how Diamond is leaning town or I am null for you.

[Firebringer]

Here's my read:

Null town:
Transcend
Firebringer
Kraska
Grib
Cephrir
Spiffeh
Farside
Kdowns

Null Scum:
Bro
Hiplop
MoI

Most likely scum:
Diamond

No contributions:
Snarky

I find it odd you have zero strong town.

[Firebringer]

as tempting as it is to cure this game of you with a hammer, i don't really think this is a great lynch

but it would be.

[Firebringer]

Lets treat this as a r/roastme, BUT ONLY FOR CEPHRIR.

Damn, I wanted in

[Firebringer]

Lets treat this as a r/roastme, BUT ONLY FOR CEPHRIR.

Damn, I wanted in

I mean, id let you only if you let me in return.


Hell, I'll start one of those threads in Mish Mash.

Roast me.

[Firebringer]

How To Training Your Dragon?
Dude that was an awesome movie, come on.

[Firebringer]

Prod dodge today

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Firebringer

I support it.

[Firebringer]

I've decided fb was unduly slash uncharacteristically worried about spiff actually going to a lynch and suspect he's trying to coast on that play

Also he's done nothing town and there's a very small pool of people I can say that about

I think he is also more fun usually

What?

[Firebringer]

Hold on a fucking minute.
Samurai jack isn't a kids show.
Eleven, you are my enemy now.

[Firebringer]

i will not be pocketed by mod confirmed scum

pedit: fb's fake guilty attempt is NAI since he does it every game. was probably just an attempt to help his game out as either alignment.
spiff's reaction was overblown, fake, unwanted, unnecessary, over the top etc.

Where the fuck are people getting this fake mets from me?

[Firebringer]

Hold on a fucking minute.
Samurai jack isn't a kids show.
Eleven, you are my enemy now.

I watched Samurai Jack as a kid. It also had oil or what-not instead of blood, little dialogue, mostly action or heartwarming scenes, etc. so it was definitely a kid's show.

I refuse to believe it.

[Firebringer]

SEARCH YOUR FEELINGS! YOU KNOW IT TO BE TRUE!

[Firebringer]

kdowns is the definition of lynchbait my friend

same thing with snarkysnowman, imo but not as much.

pedit: no moi.

no.

How is kdnown lynchbait?

[Firebringer]

Ceph very likely scum

A lot of my meta os face to face with ceph tho

WHat games?
I have only experienced Ceph as town.
And always just null or town read him.

[Firebringer]

well i basically have no townreads on that wagon so...

why does everyone think i'm scum :/

Well your read on me makes no god damn sense

[Firebringer]

Id feel much better about ceoh if he voted someone

He is voting me.

[Firebringer]

See that makes no sense.
You say I do nothing town but yet you just described me fucking doing something with town motivation.

That makes no sense.
Its either one or the other.

Either I didn't do anything or I did something.

[Firebringer]

What do you mean by antsy? The point of the gambit is to get reactions which we can't get if people push for a quick hammer which is what some people where doing.
DS and transcend had some of the worst reactions to that wagon. Yet you are voting me because I am worried about a possible mislynch on my fake claim?

I don't believe this but I have no idea why you would push me other than to look busy.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: keyenpeydee

But the way he shifts every way the wind blows and sometimes randomly when the wind isn't blowing at all says to me that he's actually just newbscum and doesn't understand how to convincingly fake an opinion. Maybe it really is as simple as it looks.

Also relevant

Keyen is a pretty empty slot, and so is Snarky.
So you are scumreading basically 2 empty slots and me.

Like the read on me interests me confuses me, but these just seem like you don't want to be looked at as having only 1 real scumread.

[Firebringer]

Was Ceph on the DS wagon earlier?

[Firebringer]

I don't like the DS or bro wagons

Could maybe do hippy

I'm not sure

nope.

[Firebringer]

Reacted to fire*

Like I can see spiffeh/fb...it just seems a little too elaborate a gambit if both are scum
But ds/spiffeh doesn't make sense

No, go in the corner. You clearly have no idea what your talking about.
I am seriously getting now too many scumreads or stupid players this day.

It's also dumb when people didn't realize for 30 pages that the guilty was fake...

AFTER FB admitted it was.

That is very true. And people like transcend look terrible for not reading up on that.

Like I can see spiffeh/fb...it just seems a little too elaborate a gambit if both are scum

i think it's possible.

also, Spiff, what is my scum motivation for not beating DS into a fine paste today? I had every chance.

What?
Okay now you say that you can see me and spiffeh, who I claimed a guilty on, but you don't see a reason for anyone scumreading you because you won't join the DS wagon?

What? Just.....

[Firebringer]

Kind of sad about replace out.


Am I being a dick?

[Firebringer]

Also I want to talk about MOI too because I still have concerns there.

But I don't know what I want to say about him or how to express those concerns, and I think I've been censoring myself on that because it seems like an opinion I'm not supposed to have.

Why are you concerned with MOI?

What do you mean you aren't supposed to have them?

[Firebringer]

If you mean trying to build bridges with someone and work with them, then yes!

Help me build this bridge:

[Firebringer]

Obviously we are going to need higher rail guards. I mean, we don't want cars just falling off them.

Ceph, I watched you play in my Micro there, the person who put most effort in was scum. But you are kind of iffy on MOI for effort?
It doesn't sound right to me.

[Firebringer]

I don't think either of us should be civil engineers.

[Firebringer]

Not getting this switch of read on me Ceph.

Why can't we all just vote DS?

[Firebringer]

DS just smells like a mislynch to me

It doesn't look like that to me, care to explain that more?

[Firebringer]

I think a stalling wagon indicates he is more likely scum as then that means other scum are either defending him or not bussing.

[Firebringer]

Also Fire you dancing around questions is really interesting.

Is it though?

[Firebringer]

DS, I don't really think any of your complaints about bro's read list are valid. You make it a reason to attack him for townreading two players you've arbitrarily decided can't both be town, and it's from his point of view, it's not supposed to be objective truth.

That doesn't make it bad

What about him calling himself conftown? Does that not irk you at all?

Umm I swear you have seen town do that before in games.
So you saying that as a irk is odd.

[Firebringer]

Also, what are the cases on Kdowns and DS?

I claimed a guilty on Spiffeh in the early part of the day, people were joining in but DS acted like he knew my result was bullshit.
He then claimed meta read of how he knew my claim was a lie and is making stuff up about my meta, although other people are doing it too.

I am not sold on Kdnowns he is doing kind of same stuff as DS but to a lesser extent and I don't know him as much so I might just think that unfamiliarity is why he is odd to me. Though others say he is worse than DS.

[Firebringer]

I see that. So, is your guilty legit?
And does this infer a Spiff/DS scumteam?

From a quick read, I would have to assume so.

My guilty was fake.
I am leaning town on Spiffeh for his reaction to my guilty, and I definitely don't think they are teamed.

You should vote DS

[Firebringer]

...

You're voting me because I'm good at Mafia. Well this is a first.

No, that isn't the reason. Try again.

[Firebringer]

If we're gonna lynch in VT claims, I'd much rather go kdowns over Spiffeh. At least Spiffeh put out content under the fake guilty pressure.

This, so much this.

[Firebringer]

If I'm scum Lynch me.
But I'm not, I know I'm horrible but I'm Town. It's stalling because others realize this.

Still waiting on the questions I am "dodging" btw.

[Firebringer]

What year is it!

That is a horrible avi, pls change back.

[Firebringer]

MOD, please replace me. This game infuriates me too much to even care or try

Really?

mine

[Firebringer]

I wouldn't mind lynching Kdown for that replace out post.
Kind of pissed me of seeing it on fucking page 120

[Firebringer]

Because when I do try to play I get belittled to nothing, or no one wants to actually fucking listen? This game has because come down to a dick waving contest.

how does a dick waving contest work?
Like who waves it the fastest?

[Firebringer]

The first point is not in any way true. He called Firebringer out for the faked guilty right after Firebringer made a second post that showed clearly he didn't have a guilty on Spiffeh. Which when I called Firebringer out on it also. As did Spiffeh. So the first point is junk.

Wtf are you even talking about here?

[Firebringer]

Finally, all caught up.

Town:
Grib
DS
MoI
Zulfy
(Ceph)

The rest is in limbo.

I'll start properly posting tomorrow.

How in the fuck do you have zulfy as town?
Let alone DS.

wtf is even this.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: SnowStorm

[Firebringer]

I spent the weekend studying, so neither of you have the right to complain.

[Firebringer]

Not for a Magna lynch right now.
Snowstorm or DS pls.

[Firebringer]

hiplop tickle your fancy fb?

no, ds is voting him and I don't think he is bussing atm.

[Firebringer]

I would go with Gammagoey.

[Firebringer]

Did cephrir just insult me?

[Firebringer]

Also FB and SS were both town in the same game I was just referencing, so I think they genuinely had to read MoI. And neither of them are on his wagon right now. I don't know how much that speaks for anything.

@Hiplop yeah it's just part of me feels he's

too

awful. I mean if worst comes to worse I'll end up policy lynching him if his wagon has the most momentum. I just don't see myself being the biggest contender of his lynch.

Yeah I misread him in that and I have no idea what quantifies the difference in his town and scum games, I am hoping I can Poe him later though.

[Firebringer]

Dumb question. He was on TTH's game. Anyway, that kind of gambit falls perfectly in line with his playstyle and personality and it is really not out of this world to question a guilty result with no full claim coming from him. I mean, I'd question a claim like that form anyone, the fact that it was FB claiming the guilty makes it even more questionable.

There's no way any sane player should follow a claim like that blindly. And yet people are scum reading the only guy who stopped to think and ask for a full claim.

You better not fucking bring a TTH game in here I will rip you a new one.

Mine

[Firebringer]

Is fire known for gambiting?

No, I have gambitted but who hasn't when you have played 140+ games.

Is fire known for gambiting?

Abso-fucking-lutely

You have yet to name any fucking games!!!!!

[Firebringer]

I went over to check DS's reaction to FB's guilty on Spiffeh, since some people are scum reading him for it.

Claim your damn guilty, FB. You will die anyways tonight. No scumteam would let someone who crumbed that live.

Also, I swear, if you were faking a guilty...

Also, DO NOT HAMMER


THIS IS EXACTLY THE SORT OF BS THAT HAPPENED IN MACHINA WHERE SOMEONE HAD A "GUILTY" ON SOMEONE ELSE AND WE HAMMERED THEM IN UNDER 24 HOURS!

I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WILL TURN OUT, BUT THAT TIME IT WAS A FUCKING GAMBIT. 2 TOWN DIED BECAUSE OF THAT BULLSHIT PLAY.

This is not a bad reaction. It is probably the most natural of the reactions I saw. Like he has said, FB is known for gambiting. There was no reason to 100% believe or deny the guilty, the only way to know if FB was telling the truth was for him to fully claim. These posts and DS's further explanation/defense of his thought process here all align with how I'd expect someone who's both played and hydra'd with FB to react.

Oh, thank you for linking that. I had been taking what FB had said at face value, like I bet so many were.

Yeah, he's downright lying about me talking like I "knew it was fake"

VOTE: Firebringer

Liars get rope, especially as blatant a lie as this.

DS what are your other reads?

[Firebringer]

can we lynch snowstorm? Like the guy is also claiming "firebringer did it so it's questionable" when he can't even remember a game he has played with me.

[Firebringer]

I guess I need to keep in mind that MoI is lynchbait most likely. I played one game with him, somehow he ate a lynch when RC was campaigning on another lynch. It's very rare for RC to not get his way.

(this is at hiplop too)
MoI absolutely isn't lynchbait in given my games with him, he puts in more than enough effort for people to townread him most of the time and really the only personality-based reason why he might get lynched even a little more often than normal (which I don't think is even actually the case) is that he's the most condescending player on the entire site.

I really want to at least start narrowing the wagons down to feasible ones before a couple days before deadline instead of dealing with the clusterfuck that looks likely if things keep going as they are now, and unvoting because of a fast wagon is retarded unless you actually think there's any chance of him being quicklynched. If there are actually new people joining the DS wagon that haven't been on it before, then fine, but if there AREN'T I really want to see everyone who thinks MoI is likely scum on the MoI wagon to see if it can actually happen today instead of finding out later 'oh yeah most of the game doesn't want to lynch either of MoI or DS guess we're prob no lynching or throwing votes out on whoever we think can actually get lynched today'

Also I think it was spiffeh who said this a while ago but DS's pushes for really stupid reasons earlier in the game I'm pretty sure are things he thinks are at least somewhat close to correct regardless of his actual alignment, I don't think those are any more likely to actually come from scum than town.

@SnarkySnowman- Why do you think MoI is town?

Bad post.

[Firebringer]

words

Bad post.

bad player

Your onto me.

[Firebringer]

Let us hope on the snowstorm train!

[Firebringer]

Probably talking about hiphop who is not in this game.

[Firebringer]

Town:
Snowstorm (made a surprising turnaround from his slot. But still a bit apprehensive)

Is he town for you because he agrees with you or what?

[Firebringer]

No, he's town because he's actually producing content and thinking. If you've noticed, there are more than a couple people on the town list that don't agree with me.

I am not saying all your reads are people who agree with you, but the person who you "flipped" is someone who basically is hard defending you and agreeing with alot of what you are saying.

[Firebringer]

The kdowns slot skyrockets up his readslist when Snowstorm starts defending him

And I go from unlynchable to null when I start pushing him

Yeah see, this is my problem.

[Firebringer]

2. If that were the case, then why would Cephrir, who has been on my case the entire game, be one of my stronger town reads? No, you slipped down the second you started making these shitty logic jumps that you are now, and have only continued to do so since I read your reaction to the readtest. I must agree with Firebringer that it was a pretty poor reaction. Although it didn't seem it at the time.

Why the fuck are you continually trying to strawman me?

[Firebringer]

How did I strawman you? I was agreeing with your earlier statement from when you were scumreading Spiffeh.

You were basically saying that I was saying all your reads were people who agree with you.

[Firebringer]

Get on the snowstorm train, its leaving the station.

[Firebringer]

How did I strawman you? I was agreeing with your earlier statement from when you were scumreading Spiffeh.

You were basically saying that I was saying all your reads were people who agree with you.

So I was basically saying what you were basically saying...

[Firebringer]

Zulfy highly talkative in a game is new to me.
Zulfy, whats going on in your head about current wagons?

[Firebringer]

Also don't lie FB. Puppy Mafia! And um, the one that TheLhix ruined (you were there, yea?). And BulletNLynchProof's, at the beginning.

You didn't really do much in Puppy Mafia as far as I remember, I remember you got lynched day 1 for being an odd ball.

[Firebringer]

Prod dodging this game, but I don't want a snarky lynch

[Firebringer]

Why is nobody besides SnarkySnowman voting Snowstorm?
This seems insane me to me.

[Firebringer]

Because too many people were all “Kdowns is not scum, he’s an easy lynch”.

What do you think of those players?

I was kind of in that boat for al ittle bit myself, so I don't know what to think of them.
I bet at least one scum pushed that idea forward but I am unsure who.

Kdowns was a null for me. His replacement just reeks of scum though.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: DiamondSentinel

[Firebringer]

oh oops i think i just lolhammered lol didn't see he was at 5 votes

nice job announcing L-1 fb lol

Yeah, thats bullshit.

[Firebringer]

With 15 alive, it's 8 to lynch!

Diamond is at L-1 right now.

[Firebringer]

does that ever work

I have faked a reaction before when someone "hammered", they read me as town for it.

[Firebringer]

Having a Neighborhood with Bro in addition to Bro confirming you are a friendly Neighbor isn’t something that justifies this kind of posting.

Your role is non-standard. You didn’t explain it in any sort of clear fashion and when you keep making statements that don’t on the surface seem to match the limited information you have given you are going to get questions.

The fact that MoI can get away with posting shit like this just makes me sad for the expected quality of play on this site.

The fact that Bro continues to post useless crap like this makes me sad that he thinks his play is exemplary of high quality play.

The fact that MoI continues to post useful crap like this makes me happy that I play mafia.

[Firebringer]

Ds is still town as I've been saying like 8 million times

And can you think of any reason why maybe, just maybe, no one is listening to you

I've already said this is exactly how he played and how he was perceived in Machina Mafia when he was town, and same for a few other games. This is 100% his town game.

I really think there are some huge differences in this game and past games.

[Firebringer]

I thought you wanted me lynched anyways?

[Firebringer]

I would like to hear solid reasons why snarky is scum reading me or Hiplop right now cause I don't get either of those reads from him.

[Firebringer]

I thought you wanted me lynched anyways?

I'm sorry. I can't hear you over HYPOCRICY!

Ummm no, I don't think you know what that word means.

I've never really looked into Whiteknighting, as I personally don't see it as a good scumtell, so I'd definitely prefer FB get lynched. In fact, I'll even eat the rope if it means that you guys finally wake up and lynch FB.

White knighting isn't a thing.
Now beyond me wanting you lynched, why do you want me lynched again?

[Firebringer]

I don't think Spiffeh is scum anymore, I don't know what your talking about. Spiffeh reaction to my guilty was townie. Your reaction was scummy.

[Firebringer]

I dont' know why we didn't lynch DS or SnowStorm

[Firebringer]

VOTE: DiamondSentinel

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Diamond Sentinel

Someone please give me a reason not to vote DS. I know you guys are chock full of them.

-K

Sorry can't.

[Firebringer]

Go down to the local Walgreens, buy something called Viagra, and it'll help you go and FUCK YOURSELF

I laughed pretty hard at this.

Don't you think I need a dildo? Like my hardon doesn't reach around like that.

[Firebringer]

i work at walgreens

Discounts on viagra perhaps?

[Firebringer]

drowning does sound more like a serial killer kill.

[Firebringer]

so either both sk and maf targetted spiffeh, or maf kill got blocked.
I doubt that a vigi would shoot spiffeh.

[Firebringer]

analyzing the kill flavor i don't think it was an sk/mob kill.

Why is that?

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Diamond

zz

Weren't you not sold on DS yesterday?

[Firebringer]

for a while, yep

So what changed for you?

[Firebringer]

Reading sucks.

[Firebringer]

I don't know how I feel about hiplop wagon right now.

Fine with Gammagoey or Snowstorm.

[Firebringer]

I've stumbled into the lurkspiral.
Call me a slob while I regroup.

Will try to read something tomorrow. Time time. Will try to be here um 6:00 PM Central time.

Slob

[Firebringer]

You were wrong about Snarky. Hey, guess what? You're wrong about me too.

I was right about snarky, so whats that mean?

[Firebringer]

It was a collective thing. The town in general was wrong. And still is b

And the collective is now on hiplop, so what you have to say to that?

[Firebringer]

What are you talking about?
You are at L-2

No one is accidentally hammering anyone.

[Firebringer]

Firebringer bullshit. I

My shit doesn't smell like bull for the record.
It smells like dandelions that were covered in dog shit.

But not bulls.

[Firebringer]

MoI's hammer post on snarky where he makes an excuse for hammering him saying HEY IF YOU'RE TOWN OH WELL is so so bad

So let me get this straight - after spending the day pushing on my stronger scum-reads (Bro, kdowns, hiplop) with Day deadline looming within a RL day I hammered someone I had a scum read on Day 1 and expressing doubt that it might be a Town flip is scummy?

Again you look to be stretching for anything think you can label as scummy as opposed to actually looking at context.

Let's talk about Transcend's hammer Day 1 on his claimed Town-read that he did to "shut everyone up". I don't recall you calling that scummy ever. Can you link to me where I might have missed that because if you think my hammer on Snarky is "so bad" I'm curious why you aren't after Transcend for that particular play.

Good points.
I don't think either hammer was terrible other than we didn't lynch ds yesterday

Snarky was a complete repeat of Waco

[Firebringer]

Replace hiplop with DS and I agree with you Grib.

[Firebringer]

And DS will be a complete repeat of both if you let it happen.

Repeatedly light AtEing isn't going to get players who are already voting you to unvote you.

Instead of this why aren't you making more of an effort to push for a scum read to be lynched?

This is why DS is scum btw.

[Firebringer]

Because I'm fucking sick of dealing with terrible players who can't bother to see beyond their stupid little circlejerks? Yep. That makes me scum.

If you can spend five minutes and show me you are actually trying to game solve, and see what your motivations are besides "lets not lynch me"

Maybe, and this a huge maybe, I will see you as town.
Now tell me without AtE, who do you think is scum besides hiplop.

[Firebringer]

[6] DiamondSentinel ~ BROseidon, Medical Junkies, Firebringer, Cephrir, hiplop, Aristophanes
[4] hiplop ~ DiamondSentinel, MagnaofIllusion, SnowStorm, Transcend

The more I look at this, the more I think Hiplop is town.

[Firebringer]

Funny, that's how I've felt about DS all game.

Mostly w/r/t the last half of his current wagon.

We should both do stand up.

[Firebringer]

SnowStrom himself is a null!town, I can't shake my really strong scum-read on KDowns I had before he replaced out. Also, his replace was super scummy. My scumread on keyen's slot is gone, mostly because his replacement's performance points to keyen's own ineptitude. Aristophanes is a weaker scumread, as well, and MoI wishy-washy, with aspects of both a town and scumread on him.

Okay....alot of different stuff in here.
Why are you wishy washy on MoI?
Also, didn't you say you had a stronger townread on SnowStorm yesterday? It seemed like this has changed alot in various points recently.

[Firebringer]

Town:
Snowstorm (made a surprising turnaround from his slot. But still a bit apprehensive)
Cephrir
Zulfy
Aristophanes

I am still a bit confused how these changed.

[Firebringer]

Town:
Snowstorm (made a surprising turnaround from his slot. But still a bit apprehensive)
Cephrir
Zulfy
Aristophanes

I am still a bit confused how these changed.

SnowStorm - Well, the only thing I could say was that at that point in time, I hadn't considered who he replaced in for.
Cephrir - Hasn't really changed much
Zulfy - Not changed at all
Aristophanes - Hasn't done a damn thing besides jump on my wagon with no reason since then. And it is fairly true that Aristophanes has a bit of a meta for lurking as scum.

You just said that SnowStorm made a turn around on that slot, in the quote from you.....

[Firebringer]

Not for an aristo wagon today, though would like to hear more from him.

[Firebringer]

Sure

[Firebringer]

Jesus, I couldn't open that previous page without my browser crashing.
WTF happened.

[Firebringer]

Now I can't quote anything without the browser crashing.....
Do we need a mod to look at this?

[Firebringer]

Its exclusive to this thread.

[Firebringer]

Is this fixed now?

[Firebringer]

Town:
Snowstorm (made a surprising turnaround from his slot. But still a bit apprehensive)
Cephrir
Zulfy
Aristophanes

I am still a bit confused how these changed.

SnowStorm - Well, the only thing I could say was that at that point in time, I hadn't considered who he replaced in for.
Cephrir - Hasn't really changed much
Zulfy - Not changed at all
Aristophanes - Hasn't done a damn thing besides jump on my wagon with no reason since then. And it is fairly true that Aristophanes has a bit of a meta for lurking as scum.

Town:
Snowstorm (made a surprising turnaround from his slot. But still a bit apprehensive)
Cephrir
Zulfy
Aristophanes

I am still a bit confused how these changed.

SnowStorm - Well, the only thing I could say was that at that point in time, I hadn't considered who he replaced in for.
Cephrir - Hasn't really changed much
Zulfy - Not changed at all
Aristophanes - Hasn't done a damn thing besides jump on my wagon with no reason since then. And it is fairly true that Aristophanes has a bit of a meta for lurking as scum.

You just said that SnowStorm made a turn around on that slot, in the quote from you.....

This bugs me most about DS right now, and I don't know if it will ever not bug me.

[Firebringer]

I'd vote Gamma if there is enough interest.

Id rather go there then hiplop.

[Firebringer]

ye if kraska didn't have a decent iso i'd probably be lynching aris by now.

how about gamma?

[Firebringer]

intent to not hammer this, because I don't like the people on it.

[Firebringer]

[6] hiplop ~ DiamondSentinel, SnowStorm, Transcend, Cephrir, Gammagooey, MagnaofIllusion

like four of my scumleans are on this.
could this be more scumdriven?

[Firebringer]

this is the closest thing to a town bw we've had all game imo.

your one of my scumleans on this.

[Firebringer]

Fine with lynch on Gammagoey or Snowstorm based on that Transcend
They are both also scumleans.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Gammagoey

[Firebringer]

Anyways, people that are resisting a hiplop lynch that happily participated in at least one other mislynch are Aris, BRO, Fire, and Grib who has given ITH.

and your resisting the DS wagon.
Why the fuck you think Hiplop is going to flip scum more likely than DS?

[Firebringer]

So Hiplop is town, but not obviously so?

-K

The reason I'm saying it's obvious at this point is that everyone's just ignoring the fact that hiplop's been super inactive site-wide but then citing inactivity in this game as a reason to scumread him.

It's a reason that sounds good, but in context of what's going on is really bad.

That and inactivity isn't a scum tell for Hiplop.
He was pretty active in my newbie and speakeasy game, scum in both.

[Firebringer]

I don't know what to think of all of this.

[Firebringer]

Didn't he get replaced in the middle of the night? I am totally blanking on the timing

[Firebringer]

Toothless says to lynch someone.
Fine with either this, DS or Snowstorm at this moment.

[Firebringer]

Prod dodge

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Diamond Sentinel

[Firebringer]

Did you make your own role PM?

[Firebringer]

One mans scummy is another mans townie

[Firebringer]

I have zero motivation in this game right now. Please lynch DS.

[Firebringer]

Could we lynch snowstorm instead?

[Firebringer]

I don't either and I think you're letting your desire to be proven right cloud your judgment.

Pretty much!

bandofnwiebiddnejwndbdidjd

I don't know what to do.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: hiplop

Bad Grib, Bad.

[Firebringer]

Well I guess I owe DS an apology post game.
Lol at that flip.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Snowstorm
Still confident this is scum.

[Firebringer]

Hey transcend follow my vote, I have leads

[Firebringer]

I don't bluff

[Firebringer]

Probably

[Firebringer]

Hey zulfy if your town vote snowstorm

[Firebringer]

Actually think transcend might be SK here

[Firebringer]

Zulfy vote snow storm

[Firebringer]

Actually think transcend might be SK here

Right, remind me how anything you've done is credible this game.

I'm waiting.

Ouch, nice discredit.
Teach me tips?

[Firebringer]

Right

Step 1

Remove your head from your rectal unit

Step 2

Don't tunnel obvious town all fucking day and disallow anyone else to receive pressure.

These aren't tips on discrediting

[Firebringer]

Hiplop want to help me lunch snowstorm?

[Firebringer]

Right okay to discredit

1. Pretend you are the shit and everyone is inferior to you

2. Label any read someone has that contradicts one of yours as garbage.

Got any advanced tips? I really know these ones

[Firebringer]

I don't think anyone in this game is elite.

Also lol at mention of scummies.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Gammagooey

Anyways all the evidence on Gamma is fairly incriminating and I'm happy to park my vote here right now.

This is a decent vote.
Prefer snowstorm today.

[Firebringer]

You talking about spiffeh?

[Firebringer]

VOTE: hiplop

Haha I imagine there is much cursing in the scum QT about the Vig shot and missing another kill. Love it.

And look I was dead right on Arist.

Will also lynch Snowstorm

given Kdowns scummy play.

After our interaction in the last day and my push on you, you'd vote me based on kdowns's play?

you are confirm scum.

[Firebringer]

Zulfy. What is going through your mind?
Beyond "can i pull this avi off" which the answer to that is yes.

[Firebringer]

I am so hungry guys.
WHat should I make today?

I was thinking of making a mexican pizza.
What you guys think?

[Firebringer]

Hey Eleven. Should i make a mexican pizza?

[Firebringer]

That was best post in this thread Empire.

[Firebringer]

Kind of want to lynch gamma less just because of transcends little fit.