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In post 545, Gamma Emerald wrote:So I have an ability that let’s me “activate or destroy a lab without using a night action”. Now, why would my role say activate when I’m Town? My guess is scum has the same power on one of them. Since this action still requires a knowledge roll, I’m inclined to suspect anyone with elevated knowledge during N1, as they would have probably done so in order to be able to activate labs easier. The only person alive during N1 with increased knowledge was Pine. So I am going to
VOTE: Pine
And Pine was the consensus scumread I was talking about.
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In post 577, Fun and Games wrote: Also the idea of mafia deciding to pump up their own knowledge and then go flip open some labs feels kind of too straightforward to me - I'd feel they'd at least try to be sneaky about it.- I Keep Siteflaking
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I have to defend cmod here.In post 303, Nosferatu wrote:some people would infer from my behaviour that i obviously don't feel like im in danger of dying
I think cmod should use the ability on himself/ his strongest townread to raise speed or on Gamma to raise strength (if I interpret that speed drop correctly).- I Keep Siteflaking
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Based on the fact that he lost speed, visited library and 2 labs were activated - not very likely.In post 606, Albert B. Rampage wrote:How likely is it that Gamma-scum put a +1 knowledge on Pine n0 to set him up, and when no one else mentioned it, brought it up himself on d2?- I Keep Siteflaking
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Note: this game had nightstart
Gamma recieved knowledge today. Scum decreased knowledge of Nosferatu (he claimed), so if Nos is town, Gamma had to visit library. If Nos is town, he will die soon, so it is self resolving. Cmod went exploring and recieved item -> didn't activate lab. Also, he claimed ability to be able to raise 1 stat. I scum could make a better use of that ability that to claim.
@cmodwhat did you do n0?
Gamma, nor cmod aren't conf town, but they are mechanically townleans and should be lynched with lowered priority.- I Keep Siteflaking
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Because Nosferatu claimed to be operated by maf:In post 645, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
I want to examine this question more closely. Where did scum use their knowledge modifier N2? How do you know if Gamma really visited the library, rather than giving himself the +1 knowledge right before activating a lab?In post 631, I Keep Siteflaking wrote:
Based on the fact that he lost speed, visited library and 2 labs were activated - not very likely.In post 606, Albert B. Rampage wrote:How likely is it that Gamma-scum put a +1 knowledge on Pine n0 to set him up, and when no one else mentioned it, brought it up himself on d2?In post 597, Nosferatu wrote:Kinda sus that cmod didn't target me last night- I Keep Siteflaking
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In post 661, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Is it nerves
I don't want another quick hammer.In post 662, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Is it nerves- I Keep Siteflaking
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One operated on, one attacked.In post 670, Nosferatu wrote:
how could both of us be attacked by scum lol?In post 617, Gamma Emerald wrote:I was also attacked by scum last night, so I’m more inclined to present any information I think is helpful now versus later.
VOTE: gamma
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I think that was the effect of his item.In post 684, CreativeMod1 wrote:Also also, why did we eliminate someone whose ability is based around not being able to vote until the Hammer??? That seems like a terrible scum ability
He claimed some kind of item -> stats crafter.
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The highiest person on this list you townread:In post 777, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Who should I teach iks
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I am scumreading Pine just because mechanics. If someone can make a decent town read on him, I don't mind shifting him to null ~ townlean.In post 786, I Keep Siteflaking wrote:The highiest person on this list you townread:
And I think that it is better to have townlean with 5 dices than townread with 4 dices. Especially when the extra dice doubles the chance to destroy the lab.- I Keep Siteflaking
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Premise: multiple people are considering attacking someone at night.
Because there are no idle labs and Pine is one of the few people who can actually destroy already activated ones, it could be a good idea to attack Pine at night and lynch someone else. Considering someone has a scumlean who isn't Gamma/ Nos.- I Keep Siteflaking
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My point was, that if there are two scummy people and we have people who want to attack at night, we should lynch the other person and kill Pine at night, to give him chance to destroy labs. There are no idle labs, so we aren't riskingIn post 797, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
We almost have enough votes for Pine. We can just lynch him. Who would you attack if you were me?In post 796, I Keep Siteflaking wrote:Premise: multiple people are considering attacking someone at night.
Because there are no idle labs and Pine is one of the few people who can actually destroy already activated ones, it could be a good idea to attack Pine at night and lynch someone else. Considering someone has a scumlean who isn't Gamma/ Nos.thatmuch.
It is still early for me to have reads, but if I had to attack, I would attack Cakez.
2 Strength, voted George, was counterwagon to George, no solving in his ISO, wasn't attacked by maf tonight even though he had 2 strength.- I Keep Siteflaking
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Yeah. I will probably be siteflaking during from Tuesday to Friday. Zoom school sucks.In post 1104, lilith2013 wrote:I Keep Siteflaking has been prodded.
Pine has not responded to his prod. Deadline is paused at 2 days and 4 hours while I search for a replacement.- I Keep Siteflaking
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Setup solving is NAI.In post 815, SirCakez wrote:no setup solving maybe but that's because I hate trying to "solve" setups and game mechanics and I made that clear very early on.
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I read his whole 19 posts. Couldn't find anything AI. I know there are people who are better in reading than I am, so I ask.In post 869, Ydrasse wrote:aaand i mean, yeah you're right better to have townleans with five dices but you're not like... making the effort to townread him yourself/do that little case, you're just like. "yeah i'll roll with it if it shows up." which... makes all of this feel like a big waste essentially.- I Keep Siteflaking
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In post 876, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I'm not solely arguing scum put knowledge on themselves because it benefits them. I'm saying it because two labs being activated points to that idea. The whole meat of this is entirely based around the known events of the game, where Pine got knowledge n0 and then 2 labs got activated n1. Pine very well could have the same role (aka career, just to lean on game terminology for a second) I do, which would have allowed him to activate a lab for free once in addition to still being able to use a night action through speed to do it. Pine also just hasn't been contributing, and when he's this low contribution as town I generally see him replace out or at least be upfront about it being a problem. So there's a non-mechanical reasoning for Pine to be scum.In post 870, Fun and Games wrote:
Both of us have read the game multiple times.In post 865, Gamma Emerald wrote:Read the damn game to know why Pine wagon is a thing
We understand the reasoning behind the Pine push. We just think it's really bad.
Like you think scum purposefully put +1 Knowledge on their OWN player on N0 so that he could more easily activate labs right?
The simplest counterpoint to this theory is that stats are public knowledge and it doesn't make sense to sacrifice a scum-player just to activate a lab.
More importantly -labs do not matter this early in the game
There are currently at least 8-9 town players (3-4 scum) and only TWO labs activated - which means the bad guys are nowhere close to fulfilling their lab activation victory condition.
This means we have plenty of time to de-activate these activated labs - at least a few night-phases- though ideally we would just kill the bad guys and win the game that way. The best chance the town has to de-activate these labs is to have high knowledge players try to deactivate labs - so shouldn't we at least give Pine a chance to de-activate these labs instead of just yeeting him? If he fails like multiple times then your case for yeeting him gets much better.
Now, let's talk hypotheticals off of Pine's flip. If he flips with my Career (which I expect should show up in the flip despite full role text not) then we can treat my theory as effectively confirmed. If he flips as scum with a different role, then it says 2 things: that scum probably did end up using two standard night actions to activate those labs, and that it probably takes a relatively low roll to get. If he flips town we at least have a ton of wagon information to analyze from today and maybe yesterday. So I think yeeting him today is at the very least a strongly informative move.
As for whether labs matter, they ALWAYS matter. If we can destroy the labs now, they won't be around later, and I imagine there's a good chance there won't be infinite labs.
I am taking bets. How much are you willing to bet that Pine has the same Career as you do?In post 7, lilith2013 wrote:Each player's life story and background provides them with a unique special ability called a Career, which is not linked to their alignment. (See sample role PM below.)
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This was mechanical list. Not read list.In post 898, SirCakez wrote:
judging from thisIn post 786, I Keep Siteflaking wrote:
The highiest person on this list you townread:In post 777, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Who should I teach iks
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1) I am not sure enough to push.In post 897, SirCakez wrote:no problem with an ABR vote but why aren't you pushing me if I'm your top SR?
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Hydrae are scary:In post 961, Fun and Games wrote:
I very much want an answer to this ^In post 956, Fun and Games wrote:Wait why is everyone afraid of us?
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That is how I understand it. https://town-of-salem.fandom.com/wiki/Unique_RoleIn post 1139, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I think it’s possible. Are you trying to imply “unique” means exclusive?In post 1125, I Keep Siteflaking wrote:I am taking bets. How much are you willing to bet that Pine has the same Career as you do?
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Nope.In post 1148, Chara wrote:sorry, the question is for siteflaking and by 'this slot' i mean myself- I Keep Siteflaking
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ABR, may I ask you for your read list? You don't have to put everyone there, just people you have read on.In post 1198, Noraa wrote:
You say you want a chara flip but once chara starts racking up votes, you immediately try to start a new wagon. what's up with that?In post 1197, Albert B. Rampage wrote:He's scum. Let's get this wagon on IKSF rolling.- I Keep Siteflaking
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Split it into more posts.In post 1451, Noraa wrote:I apologize for the wall as I personally hate walls. they suck ass and they could burn in hell for all I care but this is the big catchup. I didn't know what else to do so apologies to the brain cells that died reading it @_@- I Keep Siteflaking
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Isn't it because there are 2 different heads?In post 1530, Noraa wrote:Fun and games starts vanity wagons, sheeps consensus reads even when they are on people that were TRs just a few hours ago
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Why is it scummy?In post 1530, Noraa wrote:Fun and games starts vanity wagons, sheeps consensus reads even when they are on people that were TRs just a few hours ago- I Keep Siteflaking
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VOTE: NoraaIn post 1569, Noraa wrote:
Not caught up but ur just gonna vote the leading wagon. Nice. Into the SRs u go.In post 1566, I Keep Siteflaking wrote:VOTE: Bingle
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In post 1547, I Keep Siteflaking wrote:
Why is it scummy?In post 1530, Noraa wrote:Fun and games starts vanity wagons, sheeps consensus reads even when they are on people that were TRs just a few hours ago- I Keep Siteflaking
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I voted Bingle, because he is currently in 1v1 with FaG.
I have never played with scum Skitter, but I have played games with town Skitter. In both of these games she
a) townreaded and defended me ✓
b) kept asking questions I wanted/ would ask ✓
Both happens in this game. If Skitter can't fake these details into her scum game, she is very likely town.
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there is no way an account called "i keep siteflaking" is an altIn post 1607, Fun and Games wrote:(i'm asking if you're an alt, not to reveal the alt)- I Keep Siteflaking
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So... if CM gives you the pidgeon, you can heal gamma and then give him the pidgy back?In post 1813, Bingle wrote:
I claimed days ago, it’s just that no one noticed. I heal one in any stat below it’s starting value when given an item, limit once per day.In post 1809, JohnnyFarrar wrote:6 hours. VOTE: bingle
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But if Bingle is town, we can at very least use him to heal Gamma.In post 1821, SirCakez wrote:Claim doesn't matter omg
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I don't want FG lynch now.In post 1833, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
We don't have time for this. We have the votes for FG. You need to vote there now.In post 1831, LavarManos wrote:No, I am not scum with Fun and Games. I would still like to hammer Bingle because it looks like he is at L-1, but now I am doubting myself.
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Why Peng?In post 1613, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
of course that would be your townreads. of course.In post 1611, Fun and Games wrote:town: penguin, iks, sircakez - I Keep Siteflaking
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