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worth a shotIn post 12, Netflix and Chill wrote:So, Notty told me there was a good chance we'd get the gun, but I don't actually understand the logic behind it. Or whether I should feel offended.
Also mildly curious about the votecounter.
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Whoever I scumread.In post 29, Duchess wrote:WhemeStar. I am curious about if you have a plan for how to decide who to shoot. I would also like to know if you are serious about wanting to get shot at this early in the day.
I don't care when I get shot I just want the gun.Im a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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Why do you townread #28? I am getting scum vibes from it.In post 30, RLotus wrote:Duchess townIm a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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I don't have a lot of confidence in my reads.In post 42, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:"I am the bestest scumhunter ever!"Im a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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Shooting and being correct will give me confidence!In post 44, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:I just will have to hope you never get to take a shot then. Eagerness to shoot plus low confidence makes for a very bad combination here.Im a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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It looked like a lot of trying to do something but it was just fluff. Im bad at explaining things sorry.In post 54, Duchess wrote:
Is there anything else beside just a bad vibe? Is there another way you can describe what you are seeing?In post 41, WhemeStar wrote:
Why do you townread #28? I am getting scum vibes from it.In post 30, RLotus wrote:Duchess townIm a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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I already called dibs on that get a new strategyIn post 59, Albert B. Rampage wrote:My strategy is to get shot, take the gun, and win a perfect game killing every scum, with the godfather last.Im a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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Start with me.
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If you don't like what you are seeing from me does that mean you think I am scum?In post 77, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Well, I missed a lot while getting food together.
For Duchess: detailed posts are going to come out of me on good days, and that's just how it is. I type walls. I speak walls, too. It's a thing, and it's only going to change on real bad days. I have a bunch of those coming, so you might consider yourself lucky.
As for giving scum information: don't be concerned about that from me. I play a very subtle town game, and I often do multiple things with a single post. If I'm giving scum information it's because I have decided it is for town's benefit in some way or another. There's a whole lot of ways that can be the case, if you think about it I'm sure you can come up with a few. Past games of mine will bear this statement out.
I don't really like anything I'm seeing of Wheme so far. So, Wheme, I have a question for you. What /are/ you bringing to the table here? So far we have bad reads but wants the gun, casting entirely baseless shade on one of the few players posting anything substantive (no offense intended to the players who have not posted anything substantive, game basically just started), and shitposting. What do you have that town benefits from? Don't dodge the question or meme about it, I want an honest self-assessment. What are you actually doing in this game to help town out?Im a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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They said they are town already why would they lieIn post 84, SirCakez wrote:
Because I don't know if you are town or scumIn post 82, Imperium wrote:But why do you ask?Im a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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Notscience can we know why you thought you would receive the gun?In post 12, Netflix and Chill wrote:So, Notty told me there was a good chance we'd get the gun, but I don't actually understand the logic behind it. Or whether I should feel offended.
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Bold of you to assume your getting the gunIn post 91, SirCakez wrote:Don't think I'll be shooting Dunn this gameIm a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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This post pings me but not in the OMGUS type of way.In post 77, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Well, I missed a lot while getting food together.
For Duchess: detailed posts are going to come out of me on good days, and that's just how it is. I type walls. I speak walls, too. It's a thing, and it's only going to change on real bad days. I have a bunch of those coming, so you might consider yourself lucky.
As for giving scum information: don't be concerned about that from me. I play a very subtle town game, and I often do multiple things with a single post. If I'm giving scum information it's because I have decided it is for town's benefit in some way or another. There's a whole lot of ways that can be the case, if you think about it I'm sure you can come up with a few. Past games of mine will bear this statement out.
I don't really like anything I'm seeing of Wheme so far. So, Wheme, I have a question for you. What /are/ you bringing to the table here? So far we have bad reads but wants the gun, casting entirely baseless shade on one of the few players posting anything substantive (no offense intended to the players who have not posted anything substantive, game basically just started), and shitposting. What do you have that town benefits from? Don't dodge the question or meme about it, I want an honest self-assessment. What are you actually doing in this game to help town out?Im a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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You seem to be throwing shade but trying to stay on the fence which pings me.In post 104, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:I'm making a prediction here: 3. I'll clarify that after I get an answer to the following question from Wheme:
How does it "ping" you? And in what way?Im a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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My mistake I’ve figured you were trying to say I’m scum without saying I’m scum aka you already sorted me.In post 110, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:You say "trying to stay on the fence," which is a very ugly way of saying "trying to get data to sort a slot with." You chose to word your sentence in a way that emphasizes the fact I haven't sorted you yet and entirely ignores that I'm attempting to pry information out of you to correct that.
To answer your question I guess the answer is I don’t know? I don’t really have any reason to defend myself as I don’t think I have done anything worth defending. If you don’t think I bring value to town on first 4 pages than advocate for my shootingIm a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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What are you talking about?In post 112, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:casting frivolous, factually inaccurate shade on players who are actually contributing red meat instead of fluff and shitpostIm a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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How does town choose gunbearer? Am I missing something hereIn post 115, Dunnstral wrote:After this point town gets to choose all the gunbearers (unless godfather is hit)Im a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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Makes senseIn post 118, RLotus wrote:
by shootingIn post 117, WhemeStar wrote:
How does town choose gunbearer? Am I missing something hereIn post 115, Dunnstral wrote:After this point town gets to choose all the gunbearers (unless godfather is hit)Im a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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Fluff post =/ shit post.In post 123, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:
This and the following vote are great, because the meaning should not have been in question, considering the order of the following posts (bolded for relevance)...In post 114, WhemeStar wrote:Are you saying people who don’t shit post are town?
In post 55, WhemeStar wrote:In post 54, Duchess wrote:
Is there anything else beside just a bad vibe? Is there another way you can describe what you are seeing?In post 41, WhemeStar wrote:In post 30, RLotus wrote:Duchess townWhy do you townread #28? I am getting scum vibes from it.It looked like a lot of trying to do something but it was just fluff. Im bad at explaining things sorry.
So, let's not fool ourselves here. Wheme's approach to me has been to actively attempt to twist my play into something that it is not. Weasel wording it to make it appear I'm fence sitting. Taking a really tortured interpretation of something I described him doing -- not to mention removing that description from its context. Etc. This sort of play normally grinds my gears, but Wheme's approach to it is so boneless and ineffective that I mostly just want to dunk on him for it. But is it alignment indicative? Hmmmm, not so sure.In post 77, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:--snip for readability--
I don't really like anything I'm seeing of Wheme so far. So, Wheme, I have a question for you. What /are/ you bringing to the table here? So far we have bad reads but wants the gun,casting entirely baseless shade on one of the few players posting anything substantive(no offense intended to the players who have not posted anything substantive, game basically just started), and shitposting. What do you have that town benefits from? Don't dodge the question or meme about it, I want an honest self-assessment. What are you actually doing in this game to help town out?
Someone town desperately trying to get the gun at any and all costs, up to and including the town turning their back on them entirely, is a very real possibility. Anti-town as fuck and all but guaranteed to lead to utter disaster, but still, very possible.
Then again, gambiting scum? Not impossible, especially if they're the Godfather -- someone taking them up on their offer has /some/ utility. That would be awfully telling in a lot of ways, though, so it's no guarantee itself.
I have 0 intention of twisting your play and don’t recall ever trying to do that. I don’t know what I took out of context. Fence sitting is literally what your doing when you call me out on shit without saying I’m scum for it.Im a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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How do you agree with someone who isn’t voting me and hasn’t called me scum and then vote me?
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Do you think this is AI?In post 206, Imperium wrote:I realize you’re a bit of a control freak mush and desperately want tone in charge of this gameIm a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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From a while back yeahIn post 218, Imperium wrote:
Do you have experience with not mafia?In post 216, WhemeStar wrote:Not mafia is probably scumIm a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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Me myself and IIn post 237, Netflix and Chill wrote:Let’s play a game.
Everyone can save three people who do you save and why?
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I have town lean on Albert and from what has been said I think it’s to early for unwind to get shot
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BAD POSTIn post 271, RLotus wrote:I think finding out Norfolk's allignment would help quite a bitIm a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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I assume the vote on me is because your agreeing with mush’s stance on me when her stance isn’t a scumread on me .In post 297, Duchess wrote:
Sorry, what are you asking me?In post 159, WhemeStar wrote:How do you agree with someone who isn’t voting me and hasn’t called me scum and then vote me?
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Because you never said otherwise.In post 308, Duchess wrote:. Why would you assume that Mush and I would come to the same conclusions, or feel the same way about a particular piece of evidence? What makes you so sure that Mush is not scumreading you anyway? She has made it clear that she is not sharing all her reads.Im a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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Does Norfolk really not have any reads in 20 pagesIn post 435, Norfolk Boy1 wrote:In regards to the 3 players to save question,right now i'd only save Not Mafia, because I love him. There's no pro town evidence from anyone other than Netflix at the moment.Im a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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Is everyone in the middle null?
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Why do you scumlean notmafia? I would ask the same of rockhopper(thats the person that stood out to me) but you said they should be more null already.In post 636, Dunnstral wrote:No
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I think not mafia or Dunn is a good first shot.In post 676, Norfolk Boy1 wrote:
I agree, but I don't see it being Lotus.In post 659, SirCakez wrote:I think there could be a scum in Duchess v Lotus but honestly their posts are so blah to me I just can't get a grasp on it at all.
Wheme, if you had the gun and it was 2 minutes to deadline, who are you busting a cap in?Im a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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I really like this postIn post 640, RLotus wrote:
My point isn't that you can't make up generic reads about the people you supposedly think are scummy, because that is what I am saying you are doing. Same thing you did with WhemeStar and Norfolk. You saw that other people are scum reading them, add in your fluff, and frame it as your original thought (I previously said this is what you are doing). That is what is scummy.In post 595, Duchess wrote:She didn't mention that post, so you are pushing me on my original thoughts, correct?
You said this was a read "on the back of mush". Now you are doubling back and claiming it's still scummy that we both scumread him despite having different reasons, all while claiming that I am piggybacking people's reads without contributing anything of my own? It's like Imperium said, you can't have your cake and eat it too. There are so many logical holes in your read of me that I struggle to see it coming from an honest approach to the game, and rather from a tactical positioning against a potential town leader.
The reason I am falling deeper and deeper in the Duchess is scum hole is because you are being disingenuous with your responses to me. Instead of engaging with the core of my arguments against you, you are focusing on finding "loopholes" or verbal trip ups in my case against you. For example, why is it that every scum read you give comes directly after someone else gives a read of that person? Can you expand on your reads more so that they don't seem like half hearted one liners with the purpose of piling onto someone else's read?Im a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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I don’t get why you think I’m sensitive to the dynamics. I think imperium was more invested in the conversation as they were questioned by more people and as a result had to defend themselves more. I don’t get why people think imperium was hard defending Norfolk when they weren’t. I myself was confused why people were scumreading Norfolk like crazy. It came after my “shoot Norfolk” post which was just a meme because they said they were glad they didn’t receive the gun.In post 681, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Hmm. You seem sensitive to these sort of dynamics, Wheme; would you say that the conversation was being pushed forward more by Imperium or by Cakez? What I mean is, if one of them dropped off the face of the earth at random during that, which one would have kept posting longer, in your opinion?Im a dog that quacks- WhemeStar
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Looking back on this, does scum make this post?In post 191, Rockhopper wrote:VOTE: ScrewTheTells
VOTE: Norfolk boy
VOTE: Not_Mafia
VOTE: SirCakez
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