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She’s says she’s really sick and I believe her, which is why we wait for her to feel better.In post 4015, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Well her agenda if she is scum is to escape.In post 4012, Amy Dunne wrote:@Pooky in this day phase, can you see any agenda that Ydrasse could be possibly be pushing because scum!her always 100% has one.
She seems to be mindmelding with you and Tweetie and I wouldn’t expect her to just go along with it as scum.
She's decided she doesn't want to fight me because she doesn't have the energy for it and that's probably a good idea on her part since she tried to fight me off at the beginning and it didn't work so well so now she's just shut it down.
I don't see her trying to solve the game for who the bad people are, it's kind of just a "i town read ___ and ___ and ___ etc"
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If scum, she doesn’t win just by escaping. Her buddy also has to escape as well. And considering that she has been mindmelding with both you and Tweetie, how does this help her hypothetical buddy?In post 4015, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Well her agenda if she is scum is to escape.In post 4012, Amy Dunne wrote:@Pooky in this day phase, can you see any agenda that Ydrasse could be possibly be pushing because scum!her always 100% has one.
She seems to be mindmelding with you and Tweetie and I wouldn’t expect her to just go along with it as scum.
She's decided she doesn't want to fight me because she doesn't have the energy for it and that's probably a good idea on her part since she tried to fight me off at the beginning and it didn't work so well so now she's just shut it down.
I don't see her trying to solve the game for who the bad people are, it's kind of just a "i town read ___ and ___ and ___ etc"
By agenda, she’s not pushing anything you and Tweetie disagree with.
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Yes but neither of you were open wolfing. BOTH Infinity and Nakata were.In post 4018, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I think we disagree on how much Ydra is comfortable with openwolf powerpushing.In post 4013, Morning Tweet wrote:Also the way Ydrasse played D1 doesn't line up at all with how I would play it or expect scum to play it, I think you try and get town to eliminate scum and nudge it along but dont outright drive. You let town (like Ydrasse on Infy) drive tbh
Clidd defending Ircher in a kinda odd way which I think he did? Very possible. But Ydrasse going out of her way to harass Infy as the first person to do so in the game? I kinda doubt it. And then switching to Nakata and defending Ircher!! I doubt it!!
And then all that hard pushing onto Robert which again read it, it comes off as genuine to me, but not only would Ydrasse know he is town she actually wants him to live!?! I doubt it
You say its bad because it will give her suspicion.
but
she almost escaped very early today and more than one person has townread her for hardpushing the infinity wagon.
I don't think it's a coincidence that she hardpushed both Naka and Infy while defending Ircher and Robert on D1. All four of them were playing very strangely and having the exact combination that happens to line up with the scum win conditions is kind of improbable?
Like look at what happened in the Isis game where Infy and I were scum. Ydra was very indecisive as town towards the end of D1, it just doesn't feel here that she's uninformed to me.
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She just gives off these super weird vibes in every scumgame I’ve ever played with her: Menagerie, FL v Hectic, Waltz and so far I’m just not feeling that.In post 4022, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I don't think her pushing her buddy would help them if she flipped first so by definition she shouldn't be doing that.
It’s okay though, we leave Ydra alone until she feels better then we’ll know but she seemed really genuine to me. \_0_/
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My point being, that it’s not really a fair comparison because you and Infinity were obviously not open wolfing in that game, where as Infinity and Nakata clearly were in THIS game.In post 4024, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Openwolfing doesn't really inspire confidence in your read tho?In post 4023, Amy Dunne wrote:Yes but neither of you were open wolfing. BOTH Infinity and Nakata were.
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It’s simple. We wait until she’s feeling better, then we’ll know because she plays differently as scum, she just sounds kind’ve fake, like she doesn’t really believe in what she’s saying. And it’s not a sporadic thing either. She does it consistently. Her weirdness lasts the entire game. She isn’t like say Gamma that only gets weird whrn caught, she’ll be off the entire game if scum and of course as town, she’ll never be.In post 4027, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm fine deferring on the read since my accuracy on Ydra is kinda of abysmal
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Yes, before you self-hammer that would be extremely helpful.In post 4030, Morning Tweet wrote:Chara is the same as Ydrasse in that it advanced the scum wincon D1 by voting Infy and Nakata but im more inclined to say it is scum out of the two
I guess I could go more in depth with that if anyone really cares but im not sure its necessary for me to do so
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I’m saying you’re comparing Ydrasse’s play here - where 2 scum blatantly openwolfed to her towngames where that didn’t happen.In post 4031, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I mean when I see someone openwolfing I don't get a lot of confidence lol
i'll get to reading d2/d3 later but if you could type up a cool case on her that would be lovely <3
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We can wait to determine that when she feels better but she sounds extremely genuine - something I personally see as being out of her scumrange.In post 4035, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if you're convinced on ydra town I think im fine with the 4 you picked and hopefully we just win then?
But she will make her alignment super obvious once she does.
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Well hopefully we get a VC in the meantime but no rush.In post 4044, Chara wrote:easy clap easy life!
pedit: idk but i think you can just wait to vote anyway and she'll say when she's done, right?
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+1In post 4054, Chara wrote:yeah i really don't think it's Ydrasse.
Pooky isn’t great at reading her. She just doesn’t post like this in any scumgame I’ve ever played with her. She just isn’t good at faking these things. I know some people think she is because they don’t know how to tell the difference. As town, she has this extreme conviction in everything she posts, when scum it’s clear she doesn’t actually believe what she’s saying.
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When has she ever done anything like that as scum though? She will always come up with a reason, it will just be a scummy one. She’s probably telling the truth about that.In post 4056, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:In post 4053, Morning Tweet wrote:She starts off D2 by asking other people to decide if Infy/Nakata is SvT or SvS
Does that seem like openwolfing trying to kill infy and nakata to u?
I don't think she can do d1 infy/ d2 nakata and then setup gets revealed and survive that? it'd be too openwolfy even for her to get away with, I think the order of the eliminations matter in terms how the scum team was thinking about this game. During Day 1 they were more scared of ircher being eliminated because it puts town at 4-4 to them and possibly we get ahead to 3-4. Once they are halfway to the midpoint reveal, they feel "ahead" and ok to give us something so now the priority feels like getting towncred?
What I didn't like about her day 1 progression from Nakata -> Infy is that she couldn't come up with a "reason" for wanting Naka dead when Datisi asked her for her case, "my cats ate it" and then when the opportunity came to flip, she flipped from Naka to Infy and claimed she never really had a good reason for wanting Naka dead.
I'll re-read the D2/D3 stuff tonight
Thanks Tweetie <3
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So this is scum’s plan. Every night that will prevent a townie from being sentenced. :/In post 4072, pj harvey dent wrote:As the sun rises, Yin and Yang can be seen whispering to one another. Before long they are pointing towards PookyTheMagicalBear.
PookyTheMagicalBear is now masons with Yang and Amy Dunne. PookyTheMagicalBear is confirmed to be town and can no longer be sentenced.
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Well if Flea is scum, they way fae is pushing Yydra lim so hard, makes me think they can’t be buddies. I think the way things are going, me and Pooky won’t be alone in the masonry so flipping one mafia could still lose us the game.In post 4116, clidd wrote:@Pooky @Amy
Hypothetically speaking, who would be more likely to be scum for you (in a town!clidd world) between Ydrasse and Chara?
Feel better Chara. <3
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Apparently we’re ALL criminals according to this.In post 4070, Hectic wrote:
The villagers give each other solemn looks as they push Morning Tweet forward into the clutches of the Mayor.
Excellent work as always.A fine criminal indeed.
Morning Tweet was a...
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So you think no one else gets sentenced. Yeah I guess that makes sense because game would end tonight regardless if we get it right or not.In post 4128, Tanner wrote:this is probably incorrect. there's 7 people alive, 5 of which are town, and 3 of which are non-confirmed townies (i.e. not you or pooky). town wincon is sentencing 5 townies, we've sentenced 2 of them, which means we need 3 more.In post 4125, Amy Dunne wrote:I think the way things are going, me and Pooky won’t be alone in the masonry
we need to sentence every single living town member to win. if scum has another "nightkill" and they make another townie unsentenceable, the game is mechanically lost for town. and considering nobody is coming out celebrating their scum victory, i'm assuming that's not the case.
I’m okay with voting you, so now we need to figure out who else is town. Could it be Flea/Chara?
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Yin and Yang both chose Pooky? Is Yang also scum?In post 4072, pj harvey dent wrote:As the sun rises,Yin and Yang can be seen whispering to one another. Before long they are pointing towards PookyTheMagicalBear.
PookyTheMagicalBear is now masons with Yang and Amy Dunne. PookyTheMagicalBear is confirmed to be town and can no longer be sentenced.
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Could be, so maybe we go with you first, than Ydra, than pray?In post 4131, Tanner wrote:i don't know, i'm just saying. if scum has another "make a townie unsenteceable" shot, this game is literally already lost and hectic is kind of an asshole for not calling it, so i'm assuming it's not the case.In post 4129, Amy Dunne wrote:So you think no one else gets sentenced. Yeah I guess that makes sense because game would end tonight regardless if we get it right or not.
I’m okay with voting you, so now we need to figure out who else is town. Could it be Flea/Chara?
(if i had to guess, i'd guess the next two nights will be classic nightkills on the two masons, so that the game starts approaching 3p lylo, if we don't win before that.)
clidd/ydrasse? ehh. still need to actually read the ydra wall (phoneposting over dinner rn) and i'll get back to you on that. i thought you townread ydrasse?
or if that's saying you think flea/chara are scum - could be i guess? like i said, after another mason got revealed, my "flea is town because fae is insisting on not getting voted" read lost a lot of its meaning i think. and i do think the flea hard pushing ydrasse immediately is weird of they're scum together.
though i think i found an interaction earlier that struck me as non-s/s between chara and flea, so gth right now i'd say this is clidd/flea, but uhh. game hard.
I think you could be right because Chara really doesn’t sound similar here to Pokemon Battles and similar to FL v Hectic.
So I think we do you - Ydra - Chara and hope that’s correct. NKs might possibly happen since Pooky and I have two votes but that’s my current solve.
If anyone flips mafia, then Clidd? I think Clidd feels differently here than in Nancy v Titus but it’s not a strong read. Flea is either scum or not reading the game, since neither you and Chara look like you’re “doing busywork”. If that can accurately apply to anyone here, it’s Flea.
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No one is pushing you? You were locktown by everyone.In post 4133, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Datisi, why do you think the scum decided to mason me instead of you?
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I think they’re might be others but who knows?In post 4134, Tanner wrote:^^ this interaction struck me as anti-partnery. like, flea has just "slipped" about "knowing" that the game is all vanilla, and chara doubles down on it and pushes fae to respond to it? i know scum often likes to distance, but i have a feeling this kinda distancing often isn't what scum first thinks ofIn post 2217, Flea The Magician wrote:I assume there's no PRs in this kinda game, quite simply.In post 2205, Chara wrote:i'd still like to know how you're aware of this, Flea.In post 2192, Chara wrote:how do you know this?In post 2182, Flea The Magician wrote:Given we've no way to verify night actions, the claim request is pointless.
but *again*, i don't think chara used this ever again after the interaction, and it did keep voting flea, so if they were planning distancing for now (since i imagine scum wants to look Not Aligned in the endgame), then /shrug
Flea said to both Ydra and Clidd that fae knew they were both town. What do you make of that?
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I think it has everything to do with Flea pushing Tanner more than anything else.In post 4136, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i think its fairly universally known that I wanted to send you out next after Tweet and you are probly getting yeeted today.
so you'd have to be right on something that I'm wrong on for them to prefer me to you if you are town no?
and you have a pretty good endgame tbh.
I think we should 100% never sentence Flea no matter who flips what. I don’t see a world whee fae is town here.
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This post got me thinking would scum really have wanted Infinity before Nakata? More likely, they just went along with because they figured when Ydrasse caught her ellitelling, she was fucked regardless.In post 3055, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im actually thinking maybe flea is town because theres no way anyone picks flea to endgame over infinity
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Yeah, I think she’s probably town. I’m extremely good at reading her. I think scum really wanted Nakata before Infinity and Flea kept saying how pissed fae was that fae didn’t get stumped in Royalty, so maybe that was the actual plan then? Maybe Flea was supposed to get limmed before Infinty?In post 4143, Tanner wrote:hmm. pooky, do you think me/flea this game is comparable to me/krazy in chara's folly? i thought of that game after typing out 4140. sure, you getting mason'd keeps the game most stable, but does scum!flea want the game to be stable? or like, when krazy ic'ed me (and i was arguably the "unstabling ic"), he didn't want the game to be stable because he was in the collective poe.
am i overthinking this? i feel like i'm committing *some* sorta fallacy by comparing the two situations abd thinking how scum!flea would've mason'd me. ugh...
somehow in typing out this, i've convinced myself that ydrasse is town because she would've mason'd me and idk anymore
i mean if pooky dies first she probably gets out the game at some point, and i don't think i caught what pooky's read on her was after tweetie got her case out anyway
this is why i hate nightkill analysis. or rather, nightmasoning analysis
I think had we limmed Nakata first, we probably would have never limmed Robert because they were so obviously unaligned. I think that’s why scum wanted Nakata limmed before Infinity.
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The Hopkirk wagon was literally the entire scumteam + Pooky.In post 4152, Flea The Magician wrote:You realise in royalty I lol hammered my strongest TR.In post 4145, Amy Dunne wrote:Yeah, I think she’s probably town. I’m extremely good at reading her. I think scum really wanted Nakata before Infinity and Flea kept saying how pissed fae was that fae didn’t get stumped in Royalty, so maybe that was the actual plan then? Maybe Flea was supposed to get limmed before Infinty?In post 4143, Tanner wrote:hmm. pooky, do you think me/flea this game is comparable to me/krazy in chara's folly? i thought of that game after typing out 4140. sure, you getting mason'd keeps the game most stable, but does scum!flea want the game to be stable? or like, when krazy ic'ed me (and i was arguably the "unstabling ic"), he didn't want the game to be stable because he was in the collective poe.
am i overthinking this? i feel like i'm committing *some* sorta fallacy by comparing the two situations abd thinking how scum!flea would've mason'd me. ugh...
somehow in typing out this, i've convinced myself that ydrasse is town because she would've mason'd me and idk anymore
i mean if pooky dies first she probably gets out the game at some point, and i don't think i caught what pooky's read on her was after tweetie got her case out anyway
this is why i hate nightkill analysis. or rather, nightmasoning analysis
I think had we limmed Nakata first, we probably would have never limmed Robert because they were so obviously unaligned. I think that’s why scum wanted Nakata limmed before Infinity.
I immediately and completely tanked all my towncred but my team thought I could recover. There was no way.
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My main point is that there’s no way Robert would have gotten sentenced after Nakata but I could see a world where scum might have wanted to keep him around post-reveal for miselimbait because Robert/Nakata being unaligned looks less likely post-reveal and especially after Tanner townflip, so I think scum needed Nakata to be limmed first and Tanner, Norwee, Ydra pretty much ruined that. Because Nakata lim happening first, would have made reveal happen D3 instead of D4.In post 4153, Flea The Magician wrote:If I want to be D1'd, I openwolf, and openwolf hard. I dont set up anything after that. If anything I'd aim to be 2nd or 3rd out and I'd stay the hell away from mech.
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I think Chara/Clidd seems unlikely but possible but more likely Flea + 1 of them.In post 2094, Hectic wrote:
So we just figure out which is town between Clidd/Chara and hopefully we can still pull this out.
I think Pooky’s analysis is likely wrong based on my theory.
It’s also unlikely scum could have anticipated Robert acting so weird D2.
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Well I could see Infinity following Nakata more than the other way around but I don’t think anyone wanted to vote outside of Infinity/Nakata/Ircher D1 or Robert/Nakata D2 and Nakata was very clearly obvscum by D3.In post 4164, Tanner wrote:i had a thought about infy/nakata at some point yesterday... i had a feeling that nakata was not supposed to go down in the First Stage of the game. mainly because infinity's read on nakata seemed like old-school distancing i guess? like i find it difficult to believe that they had infinity consistently push nakata (more or less) to then plan for nakata to go down right after her.In post 4144, Amy Dunne wrote:This post got me thinking would scum really have wanted Infinity before Nakata? More likely, they just went along with because they figured when Ydrasse caught her ellitelling, she was fucked regardless.In post 3055, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im actually thinking maybe flea is town because theres no way anyone picks flea to endgame over infinity
or maybe i'm looking at it wrong and nakata was the one who was supposed to go down instead, and his constant avoidance of infinity was meant to make her be able to deepwolf later on. but that would mean that a third scum was supposed to fall after nakata, and uh. this is why this game annoys me, it's wifom galore and we don't even know if scum had the game go according to plan or if they were winging it
Ydrasse even said something about getting Infinity if Nakata flipped scum, so she was definitely meant to outlast him.
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Idk maybe?In post 4167, Tanner wrote:i'm wondering if i should reverse my d2 scumread on chara. because i thought it had s/s relations with infinity. but now that the wincons are revealed to be the inverse of what they usually are, i should townread its relations with infy? lol idk
If Flea’s scum and we followed faer plan and Clidd flips mafia than fae could I suppose still try to push either of you but?
I currently like Chara’s ISO better than Clidd’s. Clidd was super aggressive in pushing his reads in me v Titus. Here it almost feels like he’s phoning it in?
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Yeah well a scum flip is still a scumflip, so maybe that’s why? I think scum really didn’t have a lot of choice to flip it because Ydra and Norwee were extremely determined and they would have presumably looked bad after Infy flip and scum had to get Nakata out next, so maybe didn’t want to make waves because they knew he was never getting sentenced post-reveal anyway.In post 4169, Tanner wrote:amy, i'm not sure your view of the game is exactly correct right now, mostly because flea's voting patterns on day 1. i think it was brought up earlier (by you? i don't remember) that flea was sitting on my vanity wagon while nakata had a real chance to get yeeted, but once the wagons shifted to infinity, fae finally jumped off me to nakata. (checking the votecounts, fae was either not voting or on me during that time.) if fae is scum, and scum was planning that hard to yeet nakata first... i don't think scum!flea would've been dancing around the wagon like that? though seeing all of infinity/clidd/chara were voting there, if you're right about ydra!town, maybe scum didn't want for all of them to vote nakata.
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Actually it was the other way around but Ydrasse but having rolled scum with Ydra, I think she far more self-aware as scum.In post 967, Ydrasse wrote:VOTE: infinity
if infinity flips scum i'm going to kill satoru or die trying tomorrow. i haven't felt this confident on my reads since titus v nancy drew and i was on fucking FIRE there.Spoiler:
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You keep saying that but when has town!you ever had perfect reads?In post 4177, Flea The Magician wrote:Annoyingly the realisation that I need to be yeet one way or another actually pisses me off, because even though I'm 100% right, until the end game nobody is going to believe it.
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Yeah, I think she’d be a lot more self-conscious of doing that as scum. I’ve never ever seen her powerwolf.In post 4182, Tanner wrote:yeah that's what's getting at me - if ydrasse is scum in this game, she has absolutely decided to unapologetically powerwolf the everloving shit out of this game, and i don't think that's the mental model i connect with scum!ydrasse?In post 4179, Amy Dunne wrote:Actually it was the other way around but Ydrasse but having rolled scum with Ydra, I think she far more self-aware as scum.In post 967, Ydrasse wrote:VOTE: infinity
if infinity flips scum i'm going to kill satoru or die trying tomorrow. i haven't felt this confident on my reads since titus v nancy drew and i was on fucking FIRE there.Spoiler:
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@Flea,
I just finished 2 towngames with you and in both you were very obviously town and you didn’t nail the scumteam. Your strongest read was town!Titus in Happy Face and you didn’t get that by mech iirc?
And Tanner isn’t discrediting Ydra, she’s still going next.
Tanner wasn’t discrediting her because his conclusion was the same as mine.
I just finished 2 towngames with you and in both you were very obviously town and you didn’t nail the scumteam. Your strongest read was town!Titus in Happy Face and you didn’t get that by mech iirc?
And Tanner isn’t discrediting Ydra, she’s still going next.
Tanner wasn’t discrediting her because his conclusion was the same as mine.
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We are all criminals because in this game, criminals don’t equal scum.In post 4198, Flea The Magician wrote:Except me, I am explicitly not a criminal... and there's a couple others who are explicilty not criminal too...In post 4127, Amy Dunne wrote:Apparently we’re ALL criminals according to this.In post 4070, Hectic wrote:
The villagers give each other solemn looks as they push Morning Tweet forward into the clutches of the Mayor.
Excellent work as always.A fine criminal indeed.
Morning Tweet was a...
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Almost like the criminals are trying to escape... lol
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Welcome to your new home, friends - the pit. You're all here for crimes of treason, murder, theft, arson... you name it. However, there is a slight problem; I'm fairly certain a good amount of you are innocent and wrongfully convicted. But no matter! I'm sure if you spend some time together, you will become very good judges of each other's character. Sentence someone between yourselves to death by nightfall, good luck.
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In post 2885, Hectic wrote:In the early hours of the morning, you find a small piece of parchment lying on the ground of the pit. You read it aloud as the other villagers gather around you.
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You have all been deceived. The Imperials have no interest in justice, they only have interest in finding the most exceptional criminals to recruit to their Royal Army, and to make use of their criminal skills. You've been under the impression that you've been sentencing people to death. In reality, being sentenced means freedom from the pit.
You do not know who I am, but I ask that you please heed my words and do not let the Mayor find out. Sentence those amongst you who you think are the most good and deserving to leave, and then perhaps... we can break this system from the inside.
TRUE Win Conditions:
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Hectic is calling Tweetie one here.In post 4127, Amy Dunne wrote:Apparently we’re ALL criminals according to this.In post 4070, Hectic wrote:
The villagers give each other solemn looks as they push Morning Tweet forward into the clutches of the Mayor.
Excellent work as always.A fine criminal indeed.
Morning Tweet was a...
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No according to this, mafia are theIn post 4212, Flea The Magician wrote:I love when the evidence presents itself.In post 4210, Amy Dunne wrote:In post 2885, Hectic wrote:In the early hours of the morning, you find a small piece of parchment lying on the ground of the pit. You read it aloud as the other villagers gather around you.
Spoiler:
You have all been deceived. The Imperials have no interest in justice,they only have interest in finding the most exceptional criminals to recruit to their Royal Army, and to make use of their criminal skills.You've been under the impression that you've been sentencing people to death. In reality, being sentenced means freedom from the pit.
You do not know who I am, but I ask that you please heed my words and do not let the Mayor find out. Sentence those amongst you who you think are the most good and deserving to leave, and then perhaps... we can break this system from the inside.
TRUE Win Conditions:
Now look again...
Scum are CRIMINAL.
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And your point is?In post 4216, Flea The Magician wrote:Think about it, we're all in this pit, and the criminal we've all been told to try and work out who the truly criminal are, to mark them for execution.
No matter who we send up, they will be treated as a criminal because as far as they know, that's what they're getting.
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I thought that initially but it really doesn’t look like scum theatre to me, plus he was early on Infinity but I’m cool with Ydrasse. I’ve analyzed the game from multiple angles and practically all of them point to Ydra!town.In post 4257, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:what if its Tanner/Flea :O
I can’t see town!Flea here regardless, so unless we both die, I think we got this.
So let’s yeet Ydra today then.
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Scum needed to get both Naka/Infy yeeted before reveal.In post 4260, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:maybe we leave flea/tanner for last
has to be at least one baddy in the two of them right? this can't be T/T
The easy optimal route was Naka/Infy -D3 reveal,
The harder less optimal was Infy/Robert/Naka - D4 reveal
Why because Nakata didn’t want to touch Infinity but Infinty hard tunnelled him.
So that’s why I think Infinity was a soft not a hard bus, with at least one scum straggler on it.
But Ydra is my current strongest unconfirmed tr, so I’m totally fine with that. Also I think Nakata ISO looks very anti-partnery for Ydrasse.
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Well then I think we got this. I don’t understand why scum would choose the more difficult route of Infinty Robert/Nakata > the easier Nakaka/Infinity route, so I think you’re probably wrong but I’m extremely confident on Ydrasse!town, so we don’t risk anything going with that but I think VCA wise, it seems weird to me that scum!Tanner would choose the more difficult less desirable route to reveal: Infy/Robert/Naka - D4 regeal > the easier and more optimal Nakata/Infinity - D3 reveal.In post 4299, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:we cant actually die i think
the game would be unplayable if we could?
I have a theory that Nakata ISO could be anti-distancing which would then possibly mean a Flea/Clidd team since he called them both “friend” more than anyone else but he pushed Ydra several times, like me, you and Tweetie, so after I realized that my initial paranoia on Tweetie was wrong, I realized that Ydra was also spewed town by that.
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I think he’s paranoid he got masoned instead of you but I’m not.In post 4300, Tanner wrote:pooooooky
you were doing so well solving the game and stuff, what are you doing now
But we don’t risk anything yeeting Ydra today regardless. I think you should go after Ydra because your position on Infinty wagon looks better than Flea/Clidd/Chara.
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No one was opposing your being sentenced, you were townlock.In post 4303, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:yea thats the thingIn post 4300, Tanner wrote:pooooooky
you were doing so well solving the game and stuff, what are you doing now
i was on fire
so why would the scum hand me this POWAAAA
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I said that’s my preference. How did you misread this?In post 4310, Flea The Magician wrote:Why not? If tanner is so town read, why not?In post 4307, Amy Dunne wrote:I think he’s paranoid he got masoned instead of you but I’m not.In post 4300, Tanner wrote:pooooooky
you were doing so well solving the game and stuff, what are you doing now
But we don’t risk anything yeeting Ydra today regardless. I think you should go after Ydra because your position on Infinty wagon looks better than Flea/Clidd/Chara.
And we can get it wrong, once. Humour me. Ydrasse today who is a green flip.
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I hope me and Tweetie have convinced you on Ydra!town now?In post 4312, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:not reallyIn post 4309, Flea The Magician wrote:Good because paranoid you is DAMN GOOD.In post 4306, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im paranoid af rn ngl
arrogant me is a lot better than paranoid me lol
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If he’s still paranoing on Ydra, I will fight him tooth and nail on that.In post 4314, Flea The Magician wrote:Depends on the situation, right now, town needs paranoid you to throw shade on everyone.In post 4312, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:not reallyIn post 4309, Flea The Magician wrote:Good because paranoid you is DAMN GOOD.In post 4306, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im paranoid af rn ngl
arrogant me is a lot better than paranoid me lol
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Nakata ISO for one is blatantly antipartnery. Scum!Nakata doesn’t say me and Tweetie will make Ydrasse look bad, then flip it to Tweetie and Ydrasse are fooling me, then jump on both you and her for being early on his wagon. But if you can’t see how she is never scum here and there are multiple reasons why she isn’t - then yes, you should absolutely defer to me and Tweetie on this.In post 4318, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm not convinced at all but I'm ok with deferring to you/tweetie
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Then that would mean a Chara/Clidd team, which is possible and also fits with my VCA theory.In post 4321, Tanner wrote:i've already asked you how you think this game compares to chara's follyIn post 4303, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:yea thats the thingIn post 4300, Tanner wrote:pooooooky
you were doing so well solving the game and stuff, what are you doing now
i was on fire
so why would the scum hand me this POWAAAA
because i have this personal tinfoil that it makes flea town, but if flea is town, the game is. kinda fucked ngl
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I still think you/Clidd but if I’m wrong, then Clidd/Chara.In post 4328, Flea The Magician wrote:In post 4321, Tanner wrote:i've already asked you how you think this game compares to chara's follyIn post 4303, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:yea thats the thingIn post 4300, Tanner wrote:pooooooky
you were doing so well solving the game and stuff, what are you doing now
i was on fire
so why would the scum hand me this POWAAAA
because i have this personal tinfoil that it makes flea town, but if flea is town, the game is. kinda fucked nglOK so Flea is single tracked scum with zero support who is so locked into mech/flavour solve fae can't be town.In post 4324, Amy Dunne wrote:Then that would mean a Chara/Clidd team, which is possible and also fits with my VCA theory.In post 4321, Tanner wrote:i've already asked you how you think this game compares to chara's follyIn post 4303, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:yea thats the thingIn post 4300, Tanner wrote:pooooooky
you were doing so well solving the game and stuff, what are you doing now
i was on fire
so why would the scum hand me this POWAAAA
because i have this personal tinfoil that it makes flea town, but if flea is town, the game is. kinda fucked ngl
but...
Flea could be town.
WAT.
Like sort your reads out. Am I scum or not?
Hell Tanner I asked youdirectlyalready.
I really think it was scum’s plan to yeet Nakata first, not Infinity because yeeting Infinity first meant yeeting Robert next and waiting until D3 to yeet Nakata and pushing the reveal to D4 instead of D3, so I think that Tanner being first in Infinty wagon, makes him unlikely to be scum, so whatever you are. I think your solve is wrong.
I also think it less likely that both scum bussed Infinity but that makes the most sense if you’re town.
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Catching up, I think Ydrasse and Tanner are right and I’m thinking that a Flea/Chara team is starting to maie sense. Chara hardpushing Tanner flip in contrast to Flea doing the exact opposite.
Which is why I want Ydra first, then Tanner because I think scum is planning to take full advantage of the Tanner flip, so making them wait another day to keep the game stable is I think in our best interests.
@Pooky, sorry I <3 you but I think you can well understand why I’m currently burnt out on math.
So, I think we go: Ydra - Tanner - Clidd. If Clidd flips scum then Flea’s most likely partner but I’m really starting to see a Flea/Chara team now.
I was initially paranoid on Tanner for this reason but it was way to over the top to be him plus VCA points strongly to him being town plus he’s very obviously solving as is Ydra and even Clidd.
For some reason Chara is fighting Ydra flip today which Tanner is also onboard with
Now I know Chara isn’t ACTIVELY opposing it but it seems super obvious that it really really really wants Tanner today, which is WHY it’s much better to do Ydrasse today and Tanner tomorrow.
I think keeping scum as frustrated as long as possible can only help us.
Clidd is fine with either one being flipped, which is why I now lean to a Flea/Chara team > any alternative variation.
Which is why I want Ydra first, then Tanner because I think scum is planning to take full advantage of the Tanner flip, so making them wait another day to keep the game stable is I think in our best interests.
@Pooky, sorry I <3 you but I think you can well understand why I’m currently burnt out on math.
So, I think we go: Ydra - Tanner - Clidd. If Clidd flips scum then Flea’s most likely partner but I’m really starting to see a Flea/Chara team now.
I was initially paranoid on Tanner for this reason but it was way to over the top to be him plus VCA points strongly to him being town plus he’s very obviously solving as is Ydra and even Clidd.
For some reason Chara is fighting Ydra flip today which Tanner is also onboard with
Now I know Chara isn’t ACTIVELY opposing it but it seems super obvious that it really really really wants Tanner today, which is WHY it’s much better to do Ydrasse today and Tanner tomorrow.
I think keeping scum as frustrated as long as possible can only help us.
Clidd is fine with either one being flipped, which is why I now lean to a Flea/Chara team > any alternative variation.
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VOTE: Ydra
Actually Clidd is also voting Tanner but looks less like distancing. Still want Ydra/Tanner first. Have 3 townflips back to back is much better then taking any unnecessary risks.
I don’t want the day rushed but I just think that scum badly wants Tanner flipped first which is why we should do Ydra before Tanner,
Actually Clidd is also voting Tanner but looks less like distancing. Still want Ydra/Tanner first. Have 3 townflips back to back is much better then taking any unnecessary risks.
I don’t want the day rushed but I just think that scum badly wants Tanner flipped first which is why we should do Ydra before Tanner,
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You think we should do Tanner today? How do you know scum won’t try to derail you?In post 4388, Ydrasse wrote:i'm fine to keep stick around + going through things until you're ready to send me out but
assuming i'm right don't listen to anything anyone says about tanner because i think if i'm right scum's going to scramble to derail tanner even more if they can :< so just send him out and don't look back on it
i was thinking about this earlier and this is like my dying testament despite my 15 points on him and i don't want to forget this
I thought it extremely interesting that as soon as I townlocked you, Flea immediately voted Clidd then both of you. But if you think Tanner first is better, I’m open to that.
But I’m extremely confident on Tanner!town now, so I think we should have enough votes?
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And that’s the reason I prefer Ydra first because it keeps the game stable and extra day but I’m hellbent on having both of them flip back to back because I want us in the strongest position possible.In post 4392, Chara wrote:i want Tanner first because it's the only way Flea does anything different.
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I would expect fae to push harder against you, since fae has been adamant about Ydra/Clidd being town but I suppose it’s possible fae switches it?In post 4401, Chara wrote:i don't know what you mean by "keeps the game stable". i'm not trying to keep the game stable, i'm trying to figure out if Flea is for sure scum or not, and it's proved to be impossible as long as Tanner isn't flipped. if fae is scum i don't think that becomes harder to see because Tanner is now flipped. but i do think if fae is town it's more useful.In post 4395, Amy Dunne wrote:And that’s the reason I prefer Ydra first because it keeps the game stable and extra day but I’m hellbent on having both of them flip back to back because I want us in the strongest position possible.In post 4392, Chara wrote:i want Tanner first because it's the only way Flea does anything different.
@Tanner that answers your question too i think.
pedit: i think it's Flea/clidd. you can say it's obviously not Ydrasse so maybe it doesn't matter and you're right, but i don't see the problem with Tanner going first to see what Flea does with that.
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Probably doesn’t matter all that much as I think Chara might have possibly slipped with it’s wanting to sort Flea post, because changing its position on Flea would obviously mean pushing Ydrasse.In post 4418, clidd wrote:Are we doing Tanner or Ydrasse first today?
But I still prefer Ydra today and Tanner tomorrow because if Chara’s town here who trs both Tanner and Ydra, then from its pov, it has to be Flea/Clidd.
So it’s wanting to presumably sort Flea, opens the door for it to possibly push Ydra.
Anyone else seeing this?
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Where did she say that?In post 4422, Tanner wrote:something about this feels off to me. like, ydra ypu say yourself that flea /could/ be town, don't you think there's any value in potentially seeing what fae does if faer theory is proven wrong early?
If Flea is town, then that could only mean Chara/Clidd are distancing.
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Oh, I really don’t see anything wrong with this?In post 4437, Tanner wrote:@amy, she said it here ^^In post 4417, Ydrasse wrote:flea /could/ be town and then yeah this sucks but also i don't think that flea really is atp, so /shrug
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Disregard, as you already answered this.In post 4443, Amy Dunne wrote:@Chara, let’s say you decide Flea is town, based on your Clidd solve, that can only leave Ydrasse who you claim to tr, so I’m confused.
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Yes but I’m finding it hard to believe that Flea is playing the same game as the rest of us and not seeing Tanner’s very obviously town here. Fae has been egregiously misrepping his posts, so fae either has the worst reads or is scum I think.In post 4448, Chara wrote:if i became very sure of Flea being town, then yes, i would then think it's Ydrasse/clidd. but that's a big if. if FleaIn post 4443, Amy Dunne wrote:@Chara, let’s say you decide Flea is town, based on your Clidd solve, that can only leave Ydrasse who you claim to tr, so I’m confused.istown i'd like to be able to see it, if fae is scum i think that's still apparent after Flea is forced to change faer tune.
if i had to choose between them right now, i'd still say i feel much better about Ydrasse being town than the hypothetical where she isn't and Flea is. hopefully that makes sense.
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I think Flea is very likely scum and there’s pretty much an infinitesimal chance your faer buddy.In post 4450, Tanner wrote:what's changed your mind?In post 4449, Amy Dunne wrote:I still think Ydrasse is town but now I think I might want Tanner flipped first.
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E-1In post 4459, Amy Dunne wrote:VOTE: TannerIn post 4455, Tanner wrote:amy, wanna vote me for a second?
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Well, 99.9999999% sure you’re town now and I still think we should never yeet Flea. Fae has some kind of gambit happening.In post 4464, Tanner wrote:i'm assuming nobody will be scumclaiming by hammering that early >_>
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I still think Yydra’s probably town but you’re less likely to be faer buddy than her or anyone left unconfirmed in the playerlist.
So, I’m basing off everything on who’s the most and least likely to be paired with Flea. I also think you’re super obviously town now and Flea is clearly misrepping your posting.
So, I’m basing off everything on who’s the most and least likely to be paired with Flea. I also think you’re super obviously town now and Flea is clearly misrepping your posting.
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It really doesn’t read like confibias to me but a blatantly obvious misrep. Fae hasn’t even pretending to waffle on you in the slightest. I just think faer read on you is fake.In post 4470, Tanner wrote:i'm usually against preflip solving like that, but it lead you to the right conclusion this time so i won't complain.
and yeah, i am kind of interested in seeing what flea does now. i'm obviously really not a fan of the way fae's been trying to paint me scum any way possible. but i've seen worse confbias in townies.
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In what world do you get SvS from this?In post 4472, Flea The Magician wrote:In post 4392, Chara wrote:i want Tanner first because it's the only way Flea does anything different.
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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I’m glad but no more quickhammers. *sideeyes the bear*In post 4491, Hectic wrote:Spoiler:
Tanner is the next to leave the pit in the safe arms of the. He salutes to the rest of you as he's carried away.Mayor
Tanner was a...
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Wow! but where is Yang?In post 4492, Hectic wrote:The next morning, you find Yin has died from ainside his hut.heart attack
A crumpled paper lies inside his hand.
Yin's Origins
Yin was controlled by the scumteam; they had full login access and control over his account. They were required to answer every question that was asked to Yin in a unique and comprehensible fashion, additionally, all questions had to be answered with something that was factually true or false if the question demanded it.
The Nuances of Yin
If a townie ever asks Yin whether he’s controlled by scum/mafia, and 2 mafia have been sentenced, Yin dies and mafia must immediately secretly pick a townie to sentence. If 2 mafia have not been sentenced, mafia must answer this question truthfully, and Yin's eyes turn red; and once 2 mafia have been sentenced, Yin will die on the start of the next day, mafia must sentence a townie, and his origins are revealed to town.
The first time a townie asks Yin whether he can grant powers or abilities, Yin immediately desperados that townie, essentially making them conftown. Mafia may not ask Yin whether he is controlled by scum/mafia, or whether or not he can grant powers or abilities.
If either 3 town or 3 mafia have been sentenced, Yin malfunctions and dies, and town are informed of his origins.
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No one put anyone at E -1 till we’re actually ready to end the day, because of you know who.In post 4521, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ok i lied i am drunk
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Why is Chara your #1 sr?In post 4524, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:chara is scum we just win if we dont let chara leave dont @me
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Friends don’t let their friends drink and type.In post 4526, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:this game us better with alocohol
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You’re extremely lucky because we weren’t ready to end the day yet. :/In post 4527, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:also im like a mason yayyy
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Pooky, wtf are you doing? Take a break and sleep it off please?In post 4536, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:hmmm lets yeeet flea next so datisi can have some company
whos up for finishing this game tonight!?
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That same bear who quickhammeree when we weren’t ready to end the day and had 4 days left? THAT bear?In post 4556, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:a bear takes his oaths seriously
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Can someone unvote so Pooky doesn’t quickhammer again? Thanks.In post 4578, Flea The Magician wrote:Convenient VC is convenient. Thanks PJ!
VOTE: Ydrasse Be free!! <3
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Mine too. We shouldn’t put anyone at E-1 with a drunk Pooky.In post 4584, Chara wrote:video's blocked in my country apparently.
*smdh*
Pooky if you quickhammer again, I will put that snowglobe into overdrive.
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Why?In post 4590, Chara wrote:okay then, i'm going to bed. pretty sure Ydrasse is scum but it doesn't matter, i'd need to be eliminated anyway. Ydrasse/clidd is my best guess.
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Light Yagami did it, you can all go home now. Game’s solved.In post 4492, Hectic wrote:The next morning, you find Yin has died from ainside his hut.heart attack
A crumpled paper lies inside his hand.
Yin's Origins
Yin was controlled by the scumteam; they had full login access and control over his account. They were required to answer every question that was asked to Yin in a unique and comprehensible fashion, additionally, all questions had to be answered with something that was factually true or false if the question demanded it.
The Nuances of Yin
If a townie ever asks Yin whether he’s controlled by scum/mafia, and 2 mafia have been sentenced, Yin dies and mafia must immediately secretly pick a townie to sentence. If 2 mafia have not been sentenced, mafia must answer this question truthfully, and Yin's eyes turn red; and once 2 mafia have been sentenced, Yin will die on the start of the next day, mafia must sentence a townie, and his origins are revealed to town.
The first time a townie asks Yin whether he can grant powers or abilities, Yin immediately desperados that townie, essentially making them conftown. Mafia may not ask Yin whether he is controlled by scum/mafia, or whether or not he can grant powers or abilities.
If either 3 town or 3 mafia have been sentenced, Yin malfunctions and dies, and town are informed of his origins.
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Pooky, do you really think that scum!Chara made Yin call it a criminal?In post 4586, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:shes trying to make you look good
If Ydrasse is scum here, it’s obviously with Flea.
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So what suddenly changed your read on Flea and why is Clidd scum?In post 4592, Chara wrote:and if i'd said i still thought it was clidd/Flea then that's what i'd say if i was scum with Flea, right? i'm sure.
she's ignored my responses about her read on me, her read is based on easy and objective things and has no heart to it, and she dodged answering Tanner's questions too. and then "oh Chara is scum it admitted to liking Detective Conan" when i already mentioned as much earlier in the game when we were talking about Yin's flavour.
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So, we’re expected to believe that scum!Chara picked this character knowing it would be revealed yet hardpushed Tanner lim, because what it’s apparently suicidal scum who enjoys living dangerously playing against its wincon?In post 4517, Hectic wrote:Mafia knew about everything related to Yin, and how his origins could and would be revealed publicly.
Like is no one seriously using their brain here?
If scum had no freaking clue it would be revealed, then okay but
SCUM Did KNOW
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I’m sincerely hoping when Pooky sobers up, he puts two and txo together and realizes Chara was flavour framed.
Like in what world does scum!Chara select the scup flavour for Yin, knowing it will be publicly revealed and used to hang it?
Chata is apparently good at scum but we’re supposed to believe that it thought to itself: I’m going to select X flavour for scum!Yin, which will be refealed and used to implicate me, right. I also have a huge continent og swampland to sell to anyone who’s interested.
Like in what world does scum!Chara select the scup flavour for Yin, knowing it will be publicly revealed and used to hang it?
Chata is apparently good at scum but we’re supposed to believe that it thought to itself: I’m going to select X flavour for scum!Yin, which will be refealed and used to implicate me, right. I also have a huge continent og swampland to sell to anyone who’s interested.
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I suppose it’s possible and Pooky totally fell for it.In post 4622, clidd wrote:I still think it's Chara/Flea, but wouldn't mind seeing how far you go with this theory (we have plenty of time).
Like I could see Flea getting tr for this and flipping mafia, then Chara gets flipped because of faer distancing.
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I don’t know why anyone is suddenly tr Flea and fae really didn’t sound terribly shocked at Tanner flip but yeah, if Chara is scum, it can only be scum with Flea.In post 4622, clidd wrote:I still think it's Chara/Flea, but wouldn't mind seeing how far you go with this theory (we have plenty of time).
I really find a you/Chara team unlikely.
But it just seems so convenient that Tanner and Chara were both criminals who Flea was hardpushing and suddenly lo and behold, we fibd out that Chara intentionally implicated itself with flavour but here’s the thing, why would scum!Chara even choose a flavour that could so easily be used to implicate it?
Like if I’m scum here, I make sure to choose a flavour no one would ever associate with me or plan on getting sentenced BEFORE it ever gets exposed, so why does scum!Chara do this?
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Do me a favour please? Next time you’re drunk, disconnect you’re internet.In post 4627, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im sober now get ready to get rekt scumbagz
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Disregard what I said, Pooky had me so rattled with the sudden hammer and then seejng Ydra at E-1 made me fear history would repeat itself.In post 4628, Flea The Magician wrote:So you're tellin me scum put that put leg work into that character specifically to frame Chara?In post 4620, Amy Dunne wrote:So, this is why Pooky was IC’d > Tanner to frame Chara because scum!Chara would be far more likely to IC Tanner but scum needed to frame Chara, so needed to wait for another flip first.
I still want to yeet Ydrasee but NOT yet. Unfortunately we can’t get Tanner’s thoughts anymore.
So, we’ll have to make do.
I think it’s probably Chara/you and I overthought everything,
But why does Chara make itself a criminal that’s what I don’t get?
But I don’t 100% rule out a possible frame but ngl that does look pretty damning for Chara. I wqs afraid that this might happen although I still think Tanner was 100% the cofrect yeet - even if we missed out on another 4 days.
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You do sound better today but I really hated your deathtunnel on Tanner. I would probably feel a lot better about you if you had even once tried to reassess him. He became increasingly obvious bleeding obvtown as the game went on and you despite that, persisted in egregiously misrepping him.In post 4629, Flea The Magician wrote:In post 4625, Amy Dunne wrote:I don’t know why anyone is suddenly tr Flea and fae really didn’t sound terribly shocked at Tanner flip but yeah, if Chara is scum, it can only be scum with Flea.In post 4622, clidd wrote:I still think it's Chara/Flea, but wouldn't mind seeing how far you go with this theory (we have plenty of time).
I really find a you/Chara team unlikely.
But it just seems so convenient that Tanner and Chara were both criminals who Flea was hardpushing and suddenly lo and behold, we fibd out that Chara intentionally implicated itself with flavour but here’s the thing, why would scum!Chara even choose a flavour that could so easily be used to implicate it?
Like if I’m scum here, I make sure to choose a flavour no one would ever associate with me or plan on getting sentenced BEFORE it ever gets exposed, so why does scum!Chara do this?
I mean if we're going full tinfoil...
There's no way in hell scum don't use Yin to try and setup a deepwolf. This is what I would do, but with about 1000% more subtlety.
Set up the two to yeet as criminal, evict the townie when its time to void townies, than as the last one on the list peeps would probably pass me over or even biastown me.
Also I was shocked, I was also hyper as fuck at the time. But I also said I would immediately drop all the mech when I was proven wrong, so you were prepared as you were actually paying attention to me.
I was initially sus on him too but it became beyond obvious that my initial suspicious were incorrect.
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NM, I was so rattled last night, I couldn’t think straight.In post 4631, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:lol flavor framed what
I was freaking out you were going to do another quickhammer and that made it hard to think clearly about anything.
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I was too freaked out to think clearly last night and then I conked out due to a really bad migraine. Pooky was dtunk but somehow I was the one with the hangover.In post 4633, clidd wrote:Hum, sorry, I have trouble seeing town!Chara here based only on that. On a tonal level, Chara sounded extremely fake on yesterday's eod and also going into the present day.In post 4625, Amy Dunne wrote:I don’t know why anyone is suddenly tr Flea and fae really didn’t sound terribly shocked at Tanner flip but yeah, if Chara is scum, it can only be scum with Flea.In post 4622, clidd wrote:I still think it's Chara/Flea, but wouldn't mind seeing how far you go with this theory (we have plenty of time).
I really find a you/Chara team unlikely.
But it just seems so convenient that Tanner and Chara were both criminals who Flea was hardpushing and suddenly lo and behold, we fibd out that Chara intentionally implicated itself with flavour but here’s the thing, why would scum!Chara even choose a flavour that could so easily be used to implicate it?
Like if I’m scum here, I make sure to choose a flavour no one would ever associate with me or plan on getting sentenced BEFORE it ever gets exposed, so why does scum!Chara do this?
Ydrasse has been more towny comparatively and the way she approached a specific angle to read my apathy as ai would be too toxic for scum!Ydrasse (as she would be manipulating my read on her using a personal problem of mine, which I don't think scum!she would be able to do and really don't have a reason to). Occam's razor says that town!Ydrasse explored something that probably scum!Ydrasse would ignore, as re-evaluating me is suicidal for scum.
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What bothers me the most about Chara, is it saying it wants Tanner yeeted to reassess Flea while claiming to tr Ydrasse and boom, next day, it flips its read on both of them.
Chara obviously knew it could never push Tanner, so that’s probably why it pushed Tanner so hard for the lim.
So rn, I would probably do Ydra - Clidd.
Clidd’s play hasn’t seemed particularly agenday at all to me.
I mean Chara’s main expressed reason for pushing so hard for Tanner was presumably to force Flea to do something else.
It kind’ve reads coordinated to get Tanner yeeted asap.
Chara obviously knew it could never push Tanner, so that’s probably why it pushed Tanner so hard for the lim.
So rn, I would probably do Ydra - Clidd.
Clidd’s play hasn’t seemed particularly agenday at all to me.
I mean Chara’s main expressed reason for pushing so hard for Tanner was presumably to force Flea to do something else.
It kind’ve reads coordinated to get Tanner yeeted asap.
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We also know Yin lied about Tanner, so I don’t know how helpful that is?In post 4639, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:well we know scum controlled yin
and scum!yin told me that there's a scumbag within Pooky/Norwee/Chara.
and that would get town!me to maybe 1v1 vs Chara.
Now I don't see why the scum would do that if Chara and I are both town? It'd be kind of a disaster for them if I went all in on Chara no?
Hence Chara is a baddie.
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That “thief” line from Yin is particularly concerning because it reads like someone who is really familiar with the character, so just the avatar itself might not mean much but I guess it reaches ridiculous heights of tin foil to assume a frame would be that thorough.
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You haven’t yet said, who you think is Chara’s buddy.In post 4655, Ydrasse wrote:say case closed for me
Saying it’s Chara isn’t case closed because who’s its buddy according to you?
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Chara is pushing a you/Clidd team?In post 4657, Ydrasse wrote:clidd
my one worry is that it feels like everyone’s pushing flea to be left out which means faes partner is doing it too which would be frankly suicidal
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In post 4590, Chara wrote:okay then, i'm going to bed. pretty sure Ydrasse is scum but it doesn't matter, i'd need to be eliminated anyway. Ydrasse/clidd is my best guess.
No Ydrasse, it thinks it’s you/Clidd like I said. That was before Tanner flip.In post 4592, Chara wrote:and if i'd said i still thought it was clidd/Flea then that's what i'd say if i was scum with Flea, right? i'm sure.
she's ignored my responses about her read on me, her read is based on easy and objective things and has no heart to it, and she dodged answering Tanner's questions too. and then "oh Chara is scum it admitted to liking Detective Conan" when i already mentioned as much earlier in the game when we were talking about Yin's flavour.
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I would like not to rush this.In post 4665, clidd wrote:Can I vote ydrasse or we're going to use the rest of the time?
And not to keep ragging on Pooky but I don’t want anyone at E-1 just yet.
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But the day just started. Why the rush to even do that just yet?In post 4670, Ydrasse wrote:if you and clidd are both here you can just hammer test me and then unvote
Why not focus on an airtight solve if we can possibly accomplish that?
So, is anyone at all concerned that everyone is sr Chara including whomever’s it’s buddy, because scum can’t win in that case?
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If this wasn’t the exact wincon for scum, that both need to be yeeted, that would be fine but if everyone is opposed to Chara being yeeted, then that’s anti-scum wincon if Chara’s scum.In post 4679, Ydrasse wrote:i’m fairly convinced by the thing i wrote last night admittedly but i don’t see the case for a town chara?
So not having anyone defend it is strange, because one of its accusers is obviously its buddy then.
So is the hypothetical scum gambit, that when X Chara accuser flips red, we will then decide Chara is green, because that has to be scum’s gambit in that case.
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No it’s also town’s problem because no way doesn’t scum have a strategy here.In post 4682, clidd wrote:No idea what is going on with scum, but that's their problem.
I'm pretty sure Ydrasse is town so /shrug.
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Yes, that’s what bothers me a lot too, which is why I think Chara/Flea but then Flea completely shot down my Chara frame tin foil theory. \_0_/In post 4686, Ydrasse wrote:charas flip on me feels so sharp that i genuinely can’t see the town angle and it felt... irritated in a way that i didn’t expect even if i was suspect of it
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Ydra/Flea/Clidd are all on the scum!you wagon, which if you’re scum, then that’s anti-wincon, so I’m wracking my brain on how a you/? team wins here, since both of you need to get yeeted.In post 4692, Chara wrote:why is it surprising that i'm going to wonder that you're scum after you say that i'm scum because i like a certain anime? it doesn't make any sense for me to do that if i was scum and i don't understand how this is your argument.In post 4686, Ydrasse wrote:charas flip on me feels so sharp that i genuinely can’t see the town angle and it felt... irritated in a way that i didn’t expect even if i was suspect of it
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How is this even useful though? We know Yin also called Tanner a criminal?In post 4698, Ydrasse wrote:also there’s stuff like this lmaoIn post 4639, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:well we know scum controlled yin
and scum!yin told me that there's a scumbag within Pooky/Norwee/Chara.
and that would get town!me to maybe 1v1 vs Chara.
Now I don't see why the scum would do that if Chara and I are both town? It'd be kind of a disaster for them if I went all in on Chara no?
Hence Chara is a baddie.
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Yeah, something is definitely not adding up and that’s why I think it would be a huge mistake to rush this.In post 4703, Chara wrote:the whole game is calling me scum. i don't see who i'm supposed to be scum with. and i would not put myself through Flea calling me confscum all game based on a mechanic that was invented by scum in the first place. like. why would i do any of the things it's being claimed i am doing?? Ydrasse is proposing this next-level wifom argument when my scumgame has and always has been "take minimal risks and try and look town".In post 4697, Amy Dunne wrote:Ydra/Flea/Clidd are all on the scum!you wagon, which if you’re scum, then that’s anti-wincon, so I’m wracking my brain on how a you/? team wins here, since both of you need to get yeeted.In post 4692, Chara wrote:why is it surprising that i'm going to wonder that you're scum after you say that i'm scum because i like a certain anime? it doesn't make any sense for me to do that if i was scum and i don't understand how this is your argument.In post 4686, Ydrasse wrote:charas flip on me feels so sharp that i genuinely can’t see the town angle and it felt... irritated in a way that i didn’t expect even if i was suspect of it
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Yin also made you a criminal. If you’re town, then two scums are pushing you and one townie is game throwing.In post 4705, Chara wrote:i don't think you were trying to frame meIn post 4701, Ydrasse wrote:like my game plan
“okay guys let’s frame chara with this character that i am going to pick and we’re gonna go all game and then at the end when chara is alive because somehow i’d also know this i’m gonna give it the one two punch with the conan case”
holy shitspecifically, i think you just picked a character from a thing you didn't care about thinking that no one would trace it back to you.
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Well fypov, Flea/Ydra/Clidd can’t all be scum, so one of them would have to be wrong town then?In post 4710, Chara wrote:because you've pushed it on to me right now, so yes, it feels like you're pushing it on to me. i recognize that the idea you've been fixing up to frame me all game is ridiculous, but you're doing it now.In post 4706, Ydrasse wrote:“push it onto me” directly implies i would picked the character in the hopes of weaponizing itIn post 4705, Chara wrote:i don't think you were trying to frame meIn post 4701, Ydrasse wrote:like my game plan
“okay guys let’s frame chara with this character that i am going to pick and we’re gonna go all game and then at the end when chara is alive because somehow i’d also know this i’m gonna give it the one two punch with the conan case”
holy shitspecifically, i think you just picked a character from a thing you didn't care about thinking that no one would trace it back to you.
also my read on Flea hasn't really changed i just can't believe this is town!Ydra'a argument.
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Well that’s the thing, this wasn’t remotely subtle. Flea is actually looking better then Ydra or Clidd now. :/In post 4629, Flea The Magician wrote:In post 4625, Amy Dunne wrote:I don’t know why anyone is suddenly tr Flea and fae really didn’t sound terribly shocked at Tanner flip but yeah, if Chara is scum, it can only be scum with Flea.In post 4622, clidd wrote:I still think it's Chara/Flea, but wouldn't mind seeing how far you go with this theory (we have plenty of time).
I really find a you/Chara team unlikely.
But it just seems so convenient that Tanner and Chara were both criminals who Flea was hardpushing and suddenly lo and behold, we fibd out that Chara intentionally implicated itself with flavour but here’s the thing, why would scum!Chara even choose a flavour that could so easily be used to implicate it?
Like if I’m scum here, I make sure to choose a flavour no one would ever associate with me or plan on getting sentenced BEFORE it ever gets exposed, so why does scum!Chara do this?
I mean if we're going full tinfoil...
There's no way in hell scum don't use Yin to try and setup a deepwolf. This is what I would do, but with about 1000% more subtlety.
Set up the two to yeet as criminal, evict the townie when its time to void townies, than as the last one on the list peeps would probably pass me over or even biastown me.
Also I was shocked, I was also hyper as fuck at the time. But I also said I would immediately drop all the mech when I was proven wrong, so you were prepared as you were actually paying attention to me.
No idea what to think rn. If only Pooky wasn’t off the table. :/
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No, not intentionally but I think you get my point?In post 4714, Chara wrote:being wrong isn't gamethrowing, though.In post 4711, Amy Dunne wrote:Yin also made you a criminal. If you’re town, then two scums are pushing you and one townie is game throwing.In post 4705, Chara wrote:i don't think you were trying to frame meIn post 4701, Ydrasse wrote:like my game plan
“okay guys let’s frame chara with this character that i am going to pick and we’re gonna go all game and then at the end when chara is alive because somehow i’d also know this i’m gonna give it the one two punch with the conan case”
holy shitspecifically, i think you just picked a character from a thing you didn't care about thinking that no one would trace it back to you.
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I agreed to do it with Tanner because like Tweetie, I was already convinced he was locktown anyway. Clear was just icing on an already locktown!Tanner cake, similar to Tweetie but I locktowned her a lot sooner.In post 4716, Chara wrote:because if you're scum you can just hammer..?In post 4674, Ydrasse wrote:why rush to clear someone...?
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I’m sure you are but with Flea agreeing with both of you/Clidd, it would effectively mean scum can’t win here?In post 4723, Ydrasse wrote:the level of absurdity that i called this happening yesterday and it’s actually working is unbelievable and i’m so mad i want to cry lol
Scum can’t bus, that is the obvious problem here.
Both need to escape, so I need to understand how Chara/buddy wins this.
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Well Chara, I absolutely hate hate hate the bolded here.In post 4682, clidd wrote:No idea what is going on with scum, but that's their problem.
I'm pretty sure Ydrasse is town so /shrug.
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I don’t understand why Pooky quickhammeree when me and Tanner didn’t want to rush the day either but it happened.In post 4736, Chara wrote:i'm trying to be calm about this because we are playing a game and i'm not here to get angry at anyone. yes, wifom exists. does that mean yes, scum engages in wifom they didn't need to do because... why?
i don't understand how Pooky has this read either.
Well his “criminal” read thing should be considered invalid since Tanner was town.
However, a Clidd/Ydra team doesn’t seem likely because scum!Clidd would have to know Ydra scumflip would look bad for him.
Now Flea is no longer certain on anyone, which is interesting, so in the hypothetical case of Ydra flipping scum, fae is covered.
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If Ydra is scum, Flea looks more like a buddy than Clidd, so if Clidd is scum, it probably means Ydrasse is town.In post 4738, Chara wrote:i'm sorry you're upset. i'm really not trying to do that. i don't know what you're missing, i've talked about why i don't think your case makes any sense.In post 4733, Ydrasse wrote:okay i really don’t want to have a fit at work
chara i don’t see how you aren’t scum and your towncase didn’t work for me
what am i missing on you. how is it flea/clidd
i’m probably not going to post tonigjt because this is tucking agonizing
i think clidd's been playing to try and rock the boat as little as possible, just look like he's solving, and his sudden scumread on me is because that's what scum clidd needs to do right now to get eliminated.
if it's Flea and not you i think faer plan is this, once Tanner flips fae starts playing more seriously after being proven wrong, though i admittedly have not looked at Flea's recent play very closely because i've been preoccuppied with you.
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If Flea is scum, fae’s golden regardless of Ydra flip.In post 4630, Flea The Magician wrote:Chara is now a WIFOM issue, and I'd rather drink that one later.
For today, Ydrasse.
Then when she flips green, I have the solve.
If she flips red, I'm down to 50/50 where I'm actually going to have either beat them both with a stick or just let them argue with each other.
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In post 4753, Flea The Magician wrote:No concern over the fact I'm over here on my own? on my own lil isand? where nobody loves me?In post 4673, Amy Dunne wrote:But the day just started. Why the rush to even do that just yet?In post 4670, Ydrasse wrote:if you and clidd are both here you can just hammer test me and then unvote
Why not focus on an airtight solve if we can possibly accomplish that?
So, is anyone at all concerned that everyone is sr Chara including whomever’s it’s buddy, because scum can’t win in that case?
... in fairness I did burn that bridge myself. but still.
Seems like you and Chara have switched places?In post 4749, Flea The Magician wrote:I'm glad someone picked up on that I'm being hard bussed by everyoneIn post 4657, Ydrasse wrote:clidd
my one worry is that it feels like everyone’s pushing flea to be left out which means faes partner is doing it too which would be frankly suicidal
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I totally don’t understand this?In post 4763, Flea The Magician wrote:*all hail*In post 4704, Ydrasse wrote:tanner being called scum doesn’t correlate with the situation pooky presented where early game before the true wincon was released, town v town pooky and chara would advance /town/ wincon if they managed to elim the otherIn post 4702, Amy Dunne wrote:How is this even useful though? We know Yin also called Tanner a criminal?In post 4698, Ydrasse wrote:also there’s stuff like this lmaoIn post 4639, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:well we know scum controlled yin
and scum!yin told me that there's a scumbag within Pooky/Norwee/Chara.
and that would get town!me to maybe 1v1 vs Chara.
Now I don't see why the scum would do that if Chara and I are both town? It'd be kind of a disaster for them if I went all in on Chara no?
Hence Chara is a baddie.
Yes I was very drunk last night
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I totally don’t understand this?In post 4763, Flea The Magician wrote:*all hail*In post 4704, Ydrasse wrote:tanner being called scum doesn’t correlate with the situation pooky presented where early game before the true wincon was released, town v town pooky and chara would advance /town/ wincon if they managed to elim the otherIn post 4702, Amy Dunne wrote:How is this even useful though? We know Yin also called Tanner a criminal?In post 4698, Ydrasse wrote:also there’s stuff like this lmaoIn post 4639, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:well we know scum controlled yin
and scum!yin told me that there's a scumbag within Pooky/Norwee/Chara.
and that would get town!me to maybe 1v1 vs Chara.
Now I don't see why the scum would do that if Chara and I are both town? It'd be kind of a disaster for them if I went all in on Chara no?
Hence Chara is a baddie.
Yes I was very drunk last night
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In post 4769, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i just want ydra to flip town so I can continue my impressive streak of misreading her for the 150th time in a row
I don’t know what to think rn.
However I don’t see a Ydra/Chara but then anything is possible?
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That’s true.In post 4776, Flea The Magician wrote:I am fucked either way here. This is the best bit of my predicament. no matter who I'm aligned with, they're losing with me if you think about it.In post 4743, Amy Dunne wrote:If Flea is scum, fae’s golden regardless of Ydra flip.In post 4630, Flea The Magician wrote:Chara is now a WIFOM issue, and I'd rather drink that one later.
For today, Ydrasse.
Then when she flips green, I have the solve.
If she flips red, I'm down to 50/50 where I'm actually going to have either beat them both with a stick or just let them argue with each other.
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Ydrasse when you get a chance, please explain this.In post 4704, Ydrasse wrote:tanner being called scum doesn’t correlate with the situation pooky presented where early game before the true wincon was released, town v town pooky and chara would advance /town/ wincon if they managed to elim the otherIn post 4702, Amy Dunne wrote:How is this even useful though? We know Yin also called Tanner a criminal?In post 4698, Ydrasse wrote:also there’s stuff like this lmaoIn post 4639, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:well we know scum controlled yin
and scum!yin told me that there's a scumbag within Pooky/Norwee/Chara.
and that would get town!me to maybe 1v1 vs Chara.
Now I don't see why the scum would do that if Chara and I are both town? It'd be kind of a disaster for them if I went all in on Chara no?
Hence Chara is a baddie.
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In post 3764, Chara wrote:i was thinking it was Hectic, but considering you don't seem to think that it's probably wrong.
pedit: that's referring to your read on me?
In post 3771, Chara wrote:well, we only know Yang because Isis hasn't made any effort to disguise herself.
pedit: it's not any less of an answer than Yin's other nonsense.
In post 3774, Chara wrote:half of Yin's answers were about fish and clouds.
In post 3777, Chara wrote:this is a good point if it's accurate. but i'd think Ydrasse would be able to recognize Hectic's writing somewhat.In post 3772, Tanner wrote:yin feels like roleplaying hectic to me, like it would make sense if yang is isis considering the two of them made the setup? and the call for backup mod was made after the setup was finished, *and* it asked only for vc's? unless i'm mixing something up, idk i don't feel like going back to check that
i know it doesn't really matter, but Yinisstill here and still answering questions. i doubt asking if he's scum will get a different answer than asking if he's a criminal but i dunno.
I think Chara may have possibly townslipped with this?In post 3781, Chara wrote:Yin definitely isn't Isis. i'm... 95% sure.
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It genuinely sounds like Chara doesn’t know who Yin is.In post 4784, Flea The Magician wrote:Townslipped how?
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In post 4794, Flea The Magician wrote:Someone asked for a change of tone...
hows this work? >:D
ooh cliiiid.....
You are, enemy
You are my hated enemy
I am enemy
Number one rated enemy
I'm a labelled enemy
I am your mortal enemy
My actions enemy
Make me your bitter enemy
In post 2889, Flea The Magician wrote:knew there would be ome bullshit. speed lim time.
VOTE: ircher
In post 2891, Yin wrote:The sunlight bakes the man in his underground casket. Its hot but his back remains cool. His eyes open and the sky is gone from their reflection. The sun leaves them red as he stares up at the shapes around him. The earth unwraps where it hadn't moved.
They blame the hatted man. He blames them- he steals the sun and they miss the moon, what little it does. Even her, even-
Put on a show for ingrates and see what you get. Even her even herEVEN HER.
His skin crawls with heat. The pit in his stomach burns cold.
If they want a real show- the man has known his role since the first lie to the stars and moon trapped in her eyes.
His fingers snap.
DETONATE.
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Therefore one scum is definitely Flea. It took me awhile but it’s hard to keep that up post after post if that style of writing doesn’t come natural to you.In post 4797, Amy Dunne wrote:I’ve been thinking a lot whom of the remaining players sounds most like Yin and it’s Flea. Fae has the same poetic writing style and was online at the exact same time Ircher was detinated.
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In post 4794, Flea The Magician wrote:Someone asked for a change of tone...
hows this work? >:D
ooh cliiiid.....
You are, enemy
You are my hated enemy
I am enemy
Number one rated enemy
I'm a labelled enemy
I am your mortal enemy
My actions enemy
Make me your bitter enemy
I think I’ve solved the game and we will get a pretty good idea who reacts most sad that we are never letting Flea escape.In post 2870, Yin wrote:"There's no way out of it. The sun isn't going down." The man looks down and frowns, his eyes hidden by a plain black hat pulled down.
"I know there's nothing I could've done differently, but never the less!" His patience wearing thin, he turns to address the villagers. "What have you lot been playing at? I haven't-" His words are cut off as he stops himself. His eyes are visible as he looks up, they're wide with shock. Betrayal.
"No, no. It can't be her! She can't-!" The ground opens up under him.
And the man is falling.
Falling.
Falling.
Falling.
Falling.
Falling.
Falling.
Falling.
Falling.
Falling.
Fall.
Fall.
Fall.
Fall.
FALL.
The death's head moth gets it's name because if you see one, the omen of death is on you.In post 2862, Morning Tweet wrote:, what can you tell us about the faction that is not town nor mafia?YinI know who the criminals are.The most dangerous thing you can be is impatient.
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Yes but no one has even speculated on that except me, so I think not.In post 4800, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:unless the writer is trying to frame flea
Which is harder to frame, an avatar or 20 posts? The narrative of the Yin posts are consistent, in the same person wrote them.
And fae just happened to be online to speedlim Ircher right before Yin detonated him. Like what are the odds that is also another coincidence?
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The writing is so like you. It’s not like Ydrasse, it’s not like Chara and it’s certainly not like Clidd. Had Yin just stuck to pretty much yes and no answers. it wouldn’t help but I’ve tried to disguise my writing style as has Pooky. It’s extremely difficult to do - especially in 20 posts and then you just happen to vote Ircher right before Yin detonated him.In post 4803, Flea The Magician wrote:... That is literally a song. Conflict by Disturbed.In post 4797, Amy Dunne wrote:I’ve been thinking a lot whom of the remaining players sounds most like Yin and it’s Flea. Fae has the same poetic writing style and was online at the exact same time Ircher was detinated.
Also you really think I wouldn't try and hide how I write knowing Yin would be revealed? lol
Not extremely different from how you just happened to be online to hammer Hopkirk in Royalty.
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We won’t.In post 4805, Flea The Magician wrote:You, post game, when we've all lostIn post 4801, Amy Dunne wrote:I think I’ve solved the game and we will get a pretty good idea who reacts most sad that we are never letting Flea escape.
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I initially thought Yin was Hopkirk. That writing style isn’t easy to consistently make. I just want to know who your buddy is.In post 4809, Flea The Magician wrote:Twas a dark night, lit only by the bolts of lightning that arc across the sky.
Remaining within the pit, stood 4 awaiting sentance.
2 with pure intent. 2 with darkness clasped firmly around their hearts.
That which sets apart the darkness from the light, simple.
The light sees all, finds their truth and adapts, evolves.
Those in darkness... forever blind, watching as the light consumes itself.
What of those who embrace both?
Who shine with the candle at night?
Who savour the shadows in the day?
Forever cursed,
Ss the darkness will only see the light.
And the light will only see the darkness.
See now that's Flea Original writing style.
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I <3 Flea but I’m not buying a word of this, sorry.In post 4812, Flea The Magician wrote:You and pooky at the moment
Honestly I've accepted towns lost this, I tried, I tried a lil more... that little glimmar of light kept drawin me in...
Clidd and Chara flip red, I'm 95% on this.
And I was starting to question my read on you, then I saw that post and it hit me.
Probably is you/Chara but it doesn’t matter because so long as you never escape we actually don’t need to figure out your buddy.
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It’s not just one song, you’ve made posts like that in several games. That writing style is nia for you.In post 4803, Flea The Magician wrote:... That is literally a song. Conflict by Disturbed.In post 4797, Amy Dunne wrote:I’ve been thinking a lot whom of the remaining players sounds most like Yin and it’s Flea. Fae has the same poetic writing style and was online at the exact same time Ircher was detinated.
Also you really think I wouldn't try and hide how I write knowing Yin would be revealed? lol
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*suspicious*
I keep my cards close, and I was speaking as a game general not as a me general. 21 posts, 2 reads I feel is quite loose for me. Whats your benchmark? What do you expect to see at Page 7? and from someone with 21 posts?In post 180, Cupcake Butterfly wrote:For 21 posts I haven't seen more than maybe 2 reads?In post 172, Flea The Magician wrote:Actually I think 7 pages in we've got a pretty solid gamestate. Reads are being developed, and we've got equal amounts of generic vs mechanical discussion going.
I'm going to be honest, I'm a bit soured by the confrontation between you, VFP, and Alisae -(on a GAME level, NOT personal.)I didn't see a point in confronting Alisae as much as directing your attention to someone who you wanted to support. It didn't vibe as genuine to me that VFP was quick to credit Alisae and follow em but doubled back onto you whenever Alisae wanted to gain control of the thread.
I'm experienced with Alisae. Ey almost always goes for control unless they flake out. I thought you would recognize this if you had prior experience with em. The interaction felt in bad faith.
I'm not excusing Alisae turning off players or insulting their intelligence. Your feelings are valid. But I don't know if they're directed in a protown angle yet.
I do have some limited experience with Alisae and I know that generally e's a lovely person, I also know we can and will clash if our agendas oppose, which is the feeling I got there. This is the first time I've seen em go that hard on asserting control.
I can understand eir wanting to come in and take control after the last one OMB, however, I am not willing for someone to come in and made that kind of entry, attempt to become town leader, MO and then contradict themselves in their action and intent.
None juicy.In post 182, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I've been on a bit of a high from how MO is going and thinking about the setup strategy but game is kinda stagnant otherwise actually and the pink cloud is fading. Got any juicy scumreads? (I don't think MO candidates should discuss TRs today as it may influence scum to vote an MO that could be more likely to designate a scum replacement)
This is awful. This is absolutely awful given your own posting. You're showing awareness of the game mechanics while trying to lead town down a bad road.[/spoiler]In post 191, imaginality wrote:Acutally, I'm going to follow up and VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko for post #179. Between that possible scum slip, and the downplaying of hitman... on which note, also if ssbm_Kyouko expects MO to draw the NK (per post #31) why didn't he suggest MO bid for scum powers like hitman instead of no-bid? I feel like he's scum hoping to pick up hitman for cheap.
And HEAL: imaginality
Spoiler: The tide is like the heartbeat of eternity
Spoiler: I feel warm and safe as I'm diving deeper
Spoiler: Into the heart of the ocean, I have no fear
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Hmm . . . so is Chara your buddy then?In post 3684, Flea The Magician wrote:Final 5 needs to be me, you, tanner, chara and pooky, and I promise you there will be no red flip before then.
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Fascinating.In post 3679, Flea The Magician wrote:There is no scum in Ydra or Clidd.In post 3676, Amy Dunne wrote:If there is scum in either Ydra or Clidd and you’re hard opposed to Chara/Tanner, who else does that leave?In post 3671, Flea The Magician wrote:oh yeah we were on screw mechanics there werent we..
well the intent was I will happily take the scum read and sit in the corner of "you dun goofed"
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Does anyone remember the initial avatar?In post 117, Morning Tweet wrote:Oh, that's interesting. Yin's profile picture changed from what it was before. It was a different anime guy before.
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Oh I didn’t know that’s what it said, so Ircher did ask a useful question before he began to town it up,In post 4823, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:In post 116, Yin wrote:If i had to pick, 黑.
Flea's favorite color is also black :>
So it looks like Chara came up with the content and character and Flea was the writer for all of the Yin posts.
I think it’s interesting that Flea and Chara were mindmelding on Clidd until I caught this.
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Yep.In post 4825, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Artefact is the original British English spelling. Artifact is the American English spelling. Interestingly, unlike most American spellings, artifact is the accepted form in some British publications.In post 756, Yin wrote:The Holy Lance is the name of the artefact that pierced the side of Jesus Christ.
Flea is British?
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Yeah Occam’s razor says Flea one scum - 100%.In post 4827, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:it would certainly be quite wild if Flea spent the entire game hard tunneling on Flea in disguise as Yin lol
And Chara does look the most like faer buddy.
So if we yeet Ydra and she flips red, we know Clidd and Chara are clear and if she flips green, we flip Clidd next.
Flea is lockscum no matter what.
But Flea and Chara got extremely upset about the Infinity ellitell thing, which sounds odd if Ydrasse is Flea buddy and Flea and Chara have been distancing the entire game.
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Yeah Flea is caught scum. I’m just trying to decided 100% certainly that Chara is the buddy but according to what Ydra posted, Chara is the only one who is likely to choose that avi and she sounded pretty confident about it and her strongest tr is Clidd not Flea. so it’s hard not to think it’s a Flea/Chara team but we can’t lose now because at most we free only one scum, so it really only matter for towncred that we figure out both scum.In post 4829, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:There's even references to Orwell and British history.
If Flea is town and this is some next level setup by a non-Flea scum that would be like wow...
But Chara had to push Tanner yeet due to the criminal thing, because it could never ever push Tanner and suddenly it does a 180 on both Ydra/Flea but decides on Clidd is the one to never escape, which ensures that both it and Flea would.
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You did well, although I thought the Tanner read looked super fake.In post 4835, Flea The Magician wrote:Like I'm not even going to fight you at this point btw.
Games over. I concede.
Still going to vote for my wincon though.
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I don’t doubt that. And I was tr both you and Chara before I got IC’d but I think scum!Yydra would probably be more likely to IC Tanner.In post 4838, Flea The Magician wrote:Oh and I fucking hate Elitelling as a tell anyway, that's consistent in all my games as all my alignments.
So probably going to yeet Ydrasse, then Clidd and we win unless Chara also wants to concede?
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In post 4844, Flea The Magician wrote:You've already lost, at this point you're just over thinking.In post 4839, Amy Dunne wrote:Yeah Flea is caught scum. I’m just trying to decided 100% certainly that Chara is the buddy but according to what Ydra posted, Chara is the only one who is likely to choose that avi and she sounded pretty confident about it and her strongest tr is Clidd not Flea. so it’s hard not to think it’s a Flea/Chara team but we can’t lose now because at most we free only one scum, so it really only matter for towncred that we figure out both scum.In post 4829, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:There's even references to Orwell and British history.
If Flea is town and this is some next level setup by a non-Flea scum that would be like wow...
But Chara had to push Tanner yeet due to the criminal thing, because it could never ever push Tanner and suddenly it does a 180 on both Ydra/Flea but decides on Clidd is the one to never escape, which ensures that both it and Flea would.
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You’re extremely believable as town. I’ve played 3 games with town!you and your reads didn’t read fake to me in either Gypyx game or Happy Face. I obvtown read you in Happy Face as did pretty much everyone else and most also tr you in Gypyx game.In post 4845, Flea The Magician wrote:Yeah I gotta work on bringing my town game up to my scum game...In post 4842, Amy Dunne wrote:You did well, although I thought the Tanner read looked super fake.In post 4835, Flea The Magician wrote:Like I'm not even going to fight you at this point btw.
Games over. I concede.
Still going to vote for my wincon though.
I have no idea what I do as scum that makes me so believable half the time...
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If the game doesn’t end, we’re flipping Chara then.In post 4851, Flea The Magician wrote:Like I said, I'm going to keep voting for my wincondition.
Well Once yeetdrasse happens... and once clidd is yeet, you're flipping a coin... but one that is probably going to be double headed.
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You make reads that are believable. You egregiously misrepped pretty much nearly everything Tanner posted and tried to fit it with the mech thing.In post 4853, Flea The Magician wrote:I have no idea what I did in those games, except just embrace the fact I'm shit at mafia.
Town!you wouldn’t have ignored how obviously townie he became and you’re rn, pretty much saying the exact same thing about Clidd, you locktowned before Tanner flipped and you guaranteed us he was scum.
It really doesn’t matter because no way in hell are we ever letting you escape, so in the extremely unlikely case that game doesn’t end after Clidd flip, we yeet Chara but I very much doubt that will happen.
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You wrote Yin flavour. I know it and so does Pooky, lmfaoIn post 4855, Flea The Magician wrote:i know, which is why this is boring me now, honestly. Because the games over, the flips have been decided and you've all done for me what I did for Tanner.In post 4854, Amy Dunne wrote:If the game doesn’t end, we’re flipping Chara then.In post 4851, Flea The Magician wrote:Like I said, I'm going to keep voting for my wincondition.
Well Once yeetdrasse happens... and once clidd is yeet, you're flipping a coin... but one that is probably going to be double headed.
You went looking for things specifically to confirm a read, and biased yourselves into a hole
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I can’t see Ydra writing Yin posts, roflIn post 4772, Chara wrote:i can't give a solve i don't have. clidd i'm most sure of being scum here, which is why i don't think it's you/Ydrasse.In post 4766, Flea The Magician wrote:Translation: "Sitting on da fence *In post 4713, Chara wrote:if Ydra is scum here then Flea isn't and my read there is wrong. i guess they could be scum together and it's clidd who's town but i'm not sure about that.
Gimma da solve and why. >:)
i don't think clidd wrote the Yin posts though, it doesn't seem like his style just based on this game while i could see either Ydra or Flea doing that.
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DW we won’t.In post 4860, Yang wrote:You can't vote thisIn post 4809, Flea The Magician wrote:Twas a dark night, lit only by the bolts of lightning that arc across the sky.
Remaining within the pit, stood 4 awaiting sentance.
2 with pure intent. 2 with darkness clasped firmly around their hearts.
That which sets apart the darkness from the light, simple.
The light sees all, finds their truth and adapts, evolves.
Those in darkness... forever blind, watching as the light consumes itself.
What of those who embrace both?
Who shine with the candle at night?
Who savour the shadows in the day?
Forever cursed,
Ss the darkness will only see the light.
And the light will only see the darkness.
See now that's Flea Original writing style.
We’ve missed you Yang, where have you been?
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Flea, you’re wasting your time with this and why wouldn’t you? Yin was anonymous scum account but nice try anyhow.In post 4862, Flea The Magician wrote:You really think my genderqueer fae ass would open with "Ladies and Gentlemen?"
Give the vastness of my lingual capability and the verbosity which I can summon...
You really think I'm just going to shit on myself like that?
You even used a British spelling for “artifacts”.
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Not in Canada we share the Royals.In post 4874, Flea The Magician wrote:The crowd fall silent, enraptured by the tall figure whom had just emerged from the shadows at the back of the arena.
Each movement the figure made was deliberate, choreographed almost to the sound of the collective heartbeat of those gathered for The Show.
Each step taking them closer to the middle of this stage.
You couldn't see it, but you could feel their smile as their voice echoed within the silence.
"My friends and enemies, Acquaintances past, present and future. PEOPLE OF ALL KINDS, WITHOUT CARE FOR WHO OR WHAT YOU ARE... You, are welcome here."
Oh as a side note, You us Brits are often portayed as the big evil people? Just because of how much our accent stands out against the American one.
Also may have something to do with the fact for a small ass island we did a damned good number on the world...
Spoiler:
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Still can’t tell with Chara, so for ego satisfaction it would be nice to be sure on that but wholever is fae’s partner will obviously have no motivation left, since they can’t win regardless.In post 4713, Chara wrote:if Ydra is scum here then Flea isn't and my read there is wrong. i guess they could be scum together and it's clidd who's town but i'm not sure about that.
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And scum!you couldn’t make the grammar look bad or make a typo? I’m perfectly capable of good writing but I do that all the time.In post 4889, Flea The Magician wrote:OK sorry but whoever wrote those Yin posts has a janky ass style of writing, the flow is bad, the grammar is bad too.
I mean look at this.... Amma fix this.
Mans item has no apostrophe as it's not plural, easy-going is not one word but can be hyphenated for emphasis.. and demeanour HAS A U IN IT.In post 2154, Yin wrote:The mans easy-going demeanour has shifted
Sorry, you’re not convincing me on this. I ain’t budging.
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Because he’s an anonymously controlled scum account and you’re probably ISIS.In post 4893, Yang wrote:why are you all analyzing Yin's posts instead of mine? He's not even playing anymore. So hurtful towards me.
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You posted in THIS game, your status is irrelevant.In post 4908, Flea The Magician wrote:I'm confscum for being online too...In post 4905, Amy Dunne wrote:Just did an ellitell check on Ydrasse, Chara and Clidd and you were the only one online at the time of Ircher detonate, so you’re confiscum for that too.
My online status is hidden at the time, and if I'm posting elsewhere...
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I can't be drafting janky explosive messages, can I?