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Post Post #187 (isolation #0) » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:12 am

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Hi All,

As stated I am a replacement. I'm classified as an SE but been over a year since I last played. Will do a catch up now.
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Post Post #188 (isolation #1) » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:25 am

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Read up to page 2. Just going to do it 2 pages at a time, otherwise I forget why I pcked specific posts out.
In post 17, Malakittens wrote:
In post 16, jmo16mla wrote:
In post 15, Malakittens wrote:"...."

How is replacing someone suspicious? The original person never picked/confirmed their role PM. I really doubt that's shows any relevance to alignment.
Where is it said he didn't pick his role PM?

As I said, if anyone has any questions, feel free to ask me.
Clearly the person didn't want to be in the game for unknown reasons. I don't see how Luigi hopping on and voting someone for
that
reason is acceptable. FS has recently replaced out of an ongoing game (only time I'm going to mention it and not going into details) so as I said I don't think it's relevant to alignment.

Well, when Rach, went into the newbie game to get the replacement she never said "He didn't confirm" so that means he never picked it up.
Mala bit at the RVS bait very easily. Either Newb or just pushing very hard from early on.
In post 31, Luigilewis889 wrote:
jmo16mla wrote:Maybe my reasoning was deemed better? You think it was unfair that you were questioned, and not me?
Your reasoning was that you didn't like bees. I fail to see the logic. I don't consider it unfair, just... odd. I'm fine with it, really, I just think it's weird.

Look, I was putting up a joke vote, throwing it out there like the rest of us. Can we just drop it?
Luigi asking to drop it rather than answer seems suspicious. To much heat early on?
In post 38, uoyeluri wrote:Well hello there fellows.

Glad to see that I missed the truly silly part of RVS and get to make some comments on what has happened so far.

I like the way Malakittens handled the Luigi vote and Jmo'a subsequent questioning. I think Luigii is just being a little overzealous in this Jmo conversation. I am a bit confused as to why Jmo seems to think the best answer to a vote with no explanation is ANOTHER vote with no explanation.

Also, a quick note to Jmo: I know you're an IC, so can you try to keep the double posts to a minimum?

The only other thing I have to comment on right now is #24. Mothrax seems to be coaching here, asking a question of grey and then giving him a road map of sorts to give the right answer to pull early attention off of him. So, I will semi-randomly yet still informed
Vote: Mothrax
I don't think Mothrax would openly coach Grey if they were scum team. So I do not think Mothrax/Grey combo but either could individually still be.
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Post Post #189 (isolation #2) » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:46 am

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Ok Up to page 4 now.

In post 56, tybalt wrote:Correction: moth and mala town vibes, JMO a little less so.
Sorry for the double post
I disagree with this, up until this point I felt JMO had more town vibes than moth and mala.
In post 57, Malakittens wrote:/reminds herself I'm in a newbie game.

I really don't know if coaching is a decent argument in a newbie game as majority of everyone is new, but the IC/SEs. There is going to be a decent amount of 'coaching' which I would guess in the nature of where we are can, but at the same time can't be considered alignment indicative.

@Tybalt:

How is ThaneArvsn being neutral?

UNVOTE: Jmo
Agree. I feel coaching in newbie games is null tell.
In post 65, Malakittens wrote:ThaneArvan,

You are still side-lining though. You haven't placed a vote. Do you have any scum-suspects worthy enough for a vote?
Encouraging voting for quick lynch or just asking? Felt scummy when I read it but seems less scummy now I am explaining it but I will put it out there for the record.
In post 76, jmo16mla wrote:
In post 73, ThaneArvan wrote:I have played mafia in real life but never via forum, I am used to beig able to rely on expressions and tone. I'm not quite sure where I go from here with progressing advice. Can one of the ICs explain this to me? Also, I fail to see how it is anti town not to use a vote
I'm the one and only IC here(;

There aren't many 100% reliable scum reads if any.

It's all about someone's play. Scum can't scum hunt since they already know who town is and who their scum partner(s) are. Typically scum like to jump from wagon to wagon to he someone lynched. If someone is very passive and not taking a side, they could possibly be scum. This is a scum tell because scum don't want to be forced to choose one or the other, for the most part, they want to make everyone happy. Staying passive also keeps scum available to jump on any wagon, as they don't always have definite reads.

It takes a while, some faster than others to fully understand people's playstyles and develop good scum hunting skills.
For this JMO explains scum usually jump from wagon to wagon. The lack of this in this game makes me think either experience (which is unlikely) or lack of activity. I.E. Luigi
In post 79, Malakittens wrote:I asked you a question, but no I never answered it.

Thane's first post was #10..
You voted him in #55..
He didn't provide anything.. Anything to be neutral.. You're basically voting a lurker who's not really being considered a lurker.
Now if second post came before your #55 then you might have a chance with that argument, but right now you're grasping at straws.

Sorry Tybalt, but I don't like your latest post. You seem to be tryin to find your footing, but it's really weak and really giving me a bad vibe. I can see new scum going for the lets vote a lurker card to try to avoid attention and look like they are helping.

VOTE: Tybalt
Agree with this.
In post 81, Luigilewis889 wrote:Apologies for not having posted for a while, haven't really had much to say. Anyway, after a quick lookover...

VOTE: Thane

Still hasn't voted, and with a lot of discussion and accusations going around, even a couple in my direction, I can think of a few reasons, but the most prominent in my mind at the moment is unsure of who to put pressure on to get lynched. Which is mainly done as Mafia, in my experience.
Luigi not helping his case. Had a quick lookover, saw a few votes on Thane and thus followed the bandwagon.
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Post Post #190 (isolation #3) » Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:05 am

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In post 109, jmo16mla wrote:Why are you so concerned?
Short post, no content, silly question. Just trying to look active.
In post 119, talah wrote:So also mothrax, in saying that you're not seeing the Mala case, does that mean that you *do* actually see a case for Thane?
Putting words in peoples mouths trying to create something that is not.
In post 120, mothrax wrote:Not particularly no.

Grey is my top scumread ATM, but I need to reread the last couple of pages. I didn't like luigi and your case on mala seems reaching.
Agree with all 3 things mothrax says in this post.

In post 124, talah wrote:
In post 121, Malakittens wrote:
Wait, you're voting me because I'm caring about your prior slot putting someone at L-2?

I'm not sure what type of response you are expecting from me in regards to this. I could suggest you meta me regarding this, but it's your call. I don't like early L-1/L-2 wagons because there's not much information to go off in-case of a quick lynch. If there's a flip (regardless of alignment) due to interactions with everyone it brings me one step closer to figuring out the scum from town members.
Well, no, I'm not voting for you to be lynched because of
your vote
on the previous slot exactly. I only know that the previous slot is now my slot, which is Town (and which Scum would know, and therefore be a target of). However, Luigi was abrasive so that's a very very weak tell for me to criticise you voting against.

I also admit I'm reaching by questioning the 'don't want you to flip scum' quote itself, but the answer was incoherent, if you don't mind me saying (which I'm sure you shouldn't):
Malakittens wrote: I'm not, but I don't want you to flip scum looking for an easy target.
Reaching. If you know you are reaching then why do you pursue it??
In post 130, Fropome wrote:Okay I see my predecessor had their vote on mothrax. just want to point out that I'm leaning town on moth and won't be putting that vote back.
Fropome seems town to me. Shmaaking his play!
In post 132, jmo16mla wrote:I didn't even notice he had voted me. Lol

Are you voting me because I didn't have any votes?
Same as earlier. Not contributing much. Just posting for activity purposes.
In post 142, talah wrote:Fropome, how would you react on Day 2, if you led the charge for a mislynch on Day 1 with a strong but incorrect read?
I am pretty sure he would feel shit. How is this question relevant though?
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Post Post #191 (isolation #4) » Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:25 am

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In post 151, Honey bee wrote:*yawn*
prod Mr. Thanearvan please Mod or maybe replace him. He hasn't been any more active since the post where he said he would be.

Grey do you have any other reads other than Talah?

You are a very strange player, talah. First off, when I asked for reads I meant scum reads. I don't care about town reads either, I only see scumminess and lack there of. So far, I haven't really gotten an idea of what you find scummy. You back down from things, double-thinking, and a lot of strange side comments. Like right now you have your vote on Grey, but you call him a good questioner. Isn't him mostly questioning what got you suspicious of him? And doesn't this criticism apply to jmo too? I can not see consistent suspicions in your posts, and for all the discussion in the thread you should have a stance on something.
Why am I strong read? just cause I put effort into my posts does not make me town.
Are you admitting your scum?; Don't really see why you'd openly tell people to question whether your town or not town?
In post 153, jmo16mla wrote:It's more difficult being an IC you know, being my first time and all, even harder. Most people on site don't like other people going to your posts and seeing if they are posting in other games. I'm one of them. I post when I feel like I can contribute to the game. Otherwise, I post fluff. Fluff isn't good for town. Plus, using other ongoing games as evidence is breaking the main rule on MS and could result in a modkill.

Quality>quantity.
Classic excuse. Awful excuse. For someone who doesn't like a lot of fluff you have done very well at providing us with a lot.
In post 161, mothrax wrote:I'm an easy lynch is never ever ever a good thing to say. Making excuses for poor play is a bad habit.
Agree
In post 162, jmo16mla wrote:
In post 161, mothrax wrote:I'm an easy lynch is never ever ever a good thing to say. Making excuses for poor play is a bad habit.
whos scum?
More fluff kindly sponsored by JMO
In post 165, Greywing wrote:
In post 151, Honey bee wrote:Grey do you have any other reads other than Talah?
Scum-wise? Nobody that really sets off alarm bells like Talah does. I'm pretty confident that you are Town, and I'm getting Town reads on Mala and Fro. Besides the three of you, I can't say with confidence.

If I had to pick a second scum right now, I'd go with Moth. Something just seems off to me when I read his posts. My case here is predominantly gut though.
You shitting me? Moth is the most town player right now?
In post 175, talah wrote:Your wish is granted.

VOTE: Grey
And, Talah does it again. I am pretty sure Talah is scum.

Alright here are my reads up until this point.

Town:

mothrax

Null:


Fropome - came in with a bang but hasnt done much since
Honey bee - good posts but just seems to be in the sidelines
Malakittens - Ah about but not much to go on, one or two small errors but nothing that screams scum.
tybalt - bordering scum section but made some good points

Scum vibes:


talah - I thought luigi was scum and you haven't done anything to change that
Greywing - Your reads are bizarre, voting as well.
jmo16mla - Posted a bunch of fluff after saying you hate fluff, used IC as an excuse, and haven't made an effort to push the game on. No real scum hunting and you are meant to be the most experienced player. The list goes on but you sir seem very scummy.

unvote
- I will be voting for JMO but I want to see the vote count before I do it to see what L- he is on. The second Rach posts a vote count I will place my vote.
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Post Post #193 (isolation #5) » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:55 am

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Because I can't be arsed to go look at the last vote count andwork out who's voted and unvoted. Its not my job. Thus I asked the admin and I will wait thank you.
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Post Post #210 (isolation #6) » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:42 pm

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In post 194, Honey bee wrote:What's so "not defensible" about greywing's reads, talah? Luigi's early posts were bad and he said that he only suspected mothrax on gut reasons. The mala thing he changed his mind on and that WASN'T a random vote. Otherwise I wouldn't have voted him. His questions are at least useful and he's picking up on posts which should be questioned. So while I find your sharp banter amusing, I'm not getting what your case is against him. Instead you should look over tybalt and maybe vote him.

Jmo I just don't get you. I feel like you're just testing my patience.
In post 191, Gen_Wolf wrote: Are you admitting your scum?; Don't really see why you'd openly tell people to question whether your town or not town?

*roll eyes* yes, that is
exactly
what I was doing.
Go back and read again. Talah called me a strong town read, and there's really no good reason for it. When people put strong town reads on me I get suspicious, and I need to know why.
Ya it was a rhetorical question. It is just similar to how mothrax approached the easy lynch position (post 161), just not a good thing to say in my opinion thus I bought it up.

In post 191, Gen_Wolf wrote: Greywing - Your reads are bizarre, voting as well.
No. This is not scummy. Just because you have a town read on mothrax and he has a bad feeling about mothrax does not make him scummy. You are wrong.
Fairplay, but his lack of reasoning is becoming somewhat frustrating.
Jmo only has one vote on him from tybalt.
In post 192, jmo16mla wrote:That sounds like scum.
Great analysis.
Classic JMO. More fluff.
In post 202, jmo16mla wrote:I'm not tunneling!?!?! I think he is scum. He needs to be lynched.
You are tunneling. You have added nothing of substance. When I joined the game I at least gave you the courtesy of reading over everything and then giving my opinions, of which you were the scummiest. You on the other hand have made excuses, fluffed about and just accused this slot of being scum from the get go.
In post 204, Greywing wrote:First of all, Talah, stop the intentional misspelling of my name in an attempt to insult me. I've treated you with respect throughout this game, and I expect the same in return. Thank you.

And with that introduction, Gen_Wolf has just become my second biggest scum read. I feel like he's deliberately picked the three people who have generated the most suspicion among the playerlist and gave them scumreads in an attempt to look more Town.

I also hate his "admitting to scum" question to Honey. Looks like a way of trying to set up a future wagon against a player who's been very pro-Town thus far, and is generally seen as such.

@Honey: I've reread Tybalt and I can see your case on him. I'll settle for his lynch if it comes down to it, but I'd rather see Talah or Wolf die first. Barring something drastic, I'm not open to anybody else today.
Greywing, I read through the game and developed my arguments for those 3 players to become the scummiest. If you would like to see an example by the end of the 4th page I had JMO as my biggest town read, by the end of page 8 is my #1 town read. I have given reasoning's for why these people are scum, unlike you.

As with the honey situation, I shouldn't have to explain myself twice but I will. It was a rhetorical question, as mothrax said you shouldnt admit your an easy lynch I don't think you should say what honey did, I am allowed that opinion.
In post 207, talah wrote:I just don't get your reads reasons.

Everyone else who has given reads has been asked 'why' they're reading in that way. You seem content just to slap a read down without any reasoning. 'Could potentially be scum' is not the point. Why he could potentially be scum, is.

Why do you think JMO could potentially be scum, then?
Talah finally doing something productive for the game. Good stuff chap, I agree with you here!
In post 208, Greywing wrote:I know I'm Town, and I have Town reads on three other players. Everyone else is potentially scum.

My point is, I don't know. He could be scum, he could be Town.
Greywing, i'm glad you know that your town but not one else knows that and for that reason you cannot just sit around saying I think 'xyz' is scum because I have a gut feeling. Get your shit together man. Give us reasons please, develop a case on someone and then present it, you signed up for the game so now play it properly.
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Post Post #211 (isolation #7) » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:43 pm

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almost forgot,

Vote JMO
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Post Post #232 (isolation #8) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:02 am

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In post 212, talah wrote:Welcome to new blood!

@Gen_Wolf:


Also your scum vibe on me (apart from being wrong) almost exactly mimics Grey's rationale for voting me. You're basically voting Luigi. The problem with that is, Luigi's reasons are the only thing I can't possibly describe the truth of. Poison chalice much.
Well a slot is scum not the person playing it. Thus, when I read through Luigi came up as scum in my opinion and then when you replaced in that was still the same slot and you started off very scummy but the play has gotten better.
In post 214, Hyperion wrote:I see very little in Gen Wolf's posts that would help us catch scum. Its alot of "I agree" or "I disagree" on matters of gameplay that are more about mafia theory than the game at hand. Theres just not alot of substance. Also, he replaced THane, who was on the sidelines, and didnt do anything. I'm leaning scum, but would like to hear alot more from Gen Wolf since he just replaced in.
They were my catch up posts and thus I am not going to bring up something that happened on page 1 again when someone else has already stated what I thought, thus I made my opinion of that situation known by agreeing or disagreeing. On the other hand this is a very slow moving game and their is not much else to comment on since I have caught up other than the fact that I believe JMO is digging his grave deeper.

In post 224, jmo16mla wrote:Because between work and school, I'm overloaded. You're voting me because I'm uncommitted?

Okay. So, in case I do get to L-1, it is proper to ask for me to claim my role. This is done to prevent town from lynching a PR.
No, I don't think that is the reason he is voting you. We do not know what you do in your daily life and thus we judge you on the way you play the game. In this instance not very well, I feel you are scum just trying to get through with doing as little as possible.
In post 226, jmo16mla wrote:Then why vote me if you expect me to claim PR?
This is 6 of one and half a dozen of another. Scum predominantly will claim PR but then so will a person if they are a PR. I believe Talah feels you are scum and thus he placed his vote on you. He does not know if you are a PR or not. But if you are a PR you've done a very good job of announcing it prematurely so I am pretty sure you will be the NK in any instance.

JMO you are not scum hunting, you are posting random shit to make yourself look busy. Fluff I believe.
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Post Post #239 (isolation #9) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:46 am

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In post 238, talah wrote:I don't actually give a shit if you're mafia, you know that, right?
Say what?

I definitely give a shit if he is mafia, why wouldn't you?
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Post Post #257 (isolation #10) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:41 pm

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In post 255, jmo16mla wrote:VOTE: mala

Care to dance?
reasoning?

Chilled Talah, try do it ASAP as deadline is approaching. It's hard to give my opinion just purely because I can only give it on a few people because the rest are not playing.

JMO still seems the scummiest to me. His posts are of little or no content.

Talah, orginially I thought you were scummy because of your oscar nominated entrance but I have changed that opinion for now. Feel newb town more than anything, seem to be doing more proper scum hunting.

Honeybee, she's doing goodies probably doing the most scum hunting out of everyone and she has this amazing ability of making herself as impartial as possible. Anyways, nothing in her area worries me at the moment.

Mala is a null. Would like to see her post her cases or thoughts.

Moth, I thought moth was a big townie but either he is not coming back or he is now just watching from the sidelines.

Grey, hasn't done much either so can't really say anything.

Activity has been low so it is a really slow going game, especially considering deadline is so close. Will do another read through see if I pick up on anything but we really just need people to post please.
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Post Post #295 (isolation #11) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:22 am

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In post 259, talah wrote:I'll even go one better:

VOTE: Tybalt

*snip*

That puts you at L-2 Tybalt.
Post 259 you vote Tybalt. Then (as shown below) post 275 you vote JMO. What change in 16 posts that your opinion went from Tybalt to JMO other than the fact a wagon was forming?? i know you said no scumhunting and no reading of the thread but you seemed so adamant about Tybalt.
In post 264, mothrax wrote:alright....

anywho...

Im in the process of catching up...
Welcome Hyperion and Gen...

I'm male, just so ya know, guys... the avatar is left over from a modern family UPick I played in like... 2 years ago...
Thank you :)

Ya flip she is hot, one of the only reasons I watch modern Fam. Off-topic sorry :)
In post 274, jmo16mla wrote:Morthax is scum.
Trust me on this one

VOTE: morthax

How is my vote bad? You keep bringing up me using the ic excuse, I said it was difficult.

You're pushing non reasons that don't point me towards being scum and I'm not liking it.

At all.
If I am going to be honest, I do not trust you so I do not think I will be voting Moth anytime soon. I have to laugh because you vote Mala no reason, and now you vote Mothrax no reason but then when questioned you don't offer an explanation either. Is this just another one of your pressure tests that you are doing to everyone. Your play just gets worse and worse.

(I also hope everything is ok with your father.)
In post 275, talah wrote:I think that was a couple votes off, since Tybalt and I changed votes at the last L-2.

VOTE: JMO
This is here to emphasize my above point about your vote changing so quickly.
In post 291, jmo16mla wrote:
In post 289, talah wrote:I'm pretty sure you're at L-2. I'm voting because of no scumhunting, no threadreading, which you'd know if you read the thread.

Why not just claim? Rather than drag it out?
Because claiming, is anti town.
Talah, another off play from you. You do not want someone claiming before they have to? Only when there is intent to hammer must JMO claim. I do not see why you would encourage an early claim? Please explain yourself.

Claiming isn't anti town?
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Post Post #296 (isolation #12) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:26 am

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In post 280, jmo16mla wrote:No. There is no intent to hammer me. Why would I need to claim?

You just had a brilliant reason to vote who? Thane? Now it's back on me?
it's clear you are not reading the game properly, firstly Thane is no longer playing and secondly he voted for Tybalt?

Hyperion, shot for your opinions but they seem very brief, other than the Mala one. I would like to see your case for Tybalt town though please?
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Post Post #377 (isolation #13) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:07 am

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In post 333, talah wrote:How do you cut and paste quotes on your phone?
Relevance?
In post 336, talah wrote:What kind of phone do you have?
Relevance, if he says it is autocorrect then it is autocorrect. If you know he is lying then just say so but if he wants to say its autocorrect let him.
In post 355, Malakittens wrote:I don't think it's solid. In fact I think he's grasping.
Yet your vote is on Tybalt from what I believe, so does that mean Tybalt is grasping more than JMO??
In post 365, talah wrote:(ohgawd, double-triple post, HB is going to be so pissed at me.)

@Rach-Mayor-Mod, may we please have an updated votecount? Please ignore my earlier request as I'll also ignore it. Are prods in order on a weekend for 24h+ delinquents? That's Gen_wolf, tybalt and Greywing, for the record


Thanks *cheesy grin*
Jammer, had to go to the airport yesterday and it was a friday so i got drunk :)
In post 366, jmo16mla wrote:
In post 362, mothrax wrote:
In post 361, jmo16mla wrote:Town really needs to look at mothrax's lynch better. Scum know they are getting away with lynching a stronger player. Mala would likely be next.

I've had a town read on mala all game. You're grasping at straws. And really? Stronger player? Uh-huh.
Night killed honey. Scum love to say someone is grasping at straws over and over again just to try to ignore and deflect.
You are saying you are a strong player in this game? Please do me a favour and show me where you have contributed other than your pointless 'pressure votes' and your trust me its mothrax and then all of a sudden it is Mala because she said you are grasping? You constantly contradict yourself.

As pointed out, you call Mala scum because she said you are grasping, but when pointed out that Mothrax did the same thing it is irrelevant? You constantly contradict yourself saying something is scummy if one player does it but then it isnt if another does it? So who is scum then, is it Mala or is it mothrax?
In post 367, jmo16mla wrote:Like I said, I want who everyone wants to lynch tomorrow, NOW.
In post 369, jmo16mla wrote:That proves nothing? Who are you lynching tomorrow? Or are you not going to reply because you are scum?
In post 373, jmo16mla wrote:Because it holds you to your reads. Now answer it scum.
It doesn't hold you to anything, you are just stirring the pot before deadline so that people start accusing one another hoping it inevitably leads to a no lynch or a mislynch. JMO you are blatant scum.

Both Greywing and Tybalt have been very quite, I would be interested to know what their views on the current situation are?

@Talah, why are you so worried about if JMO thinks you are scum or town??

Rach, can we get vote counts a little more often please, just makes things a tad easier to follow. Dankie :D (It means thank you ;))
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Post Post #407 (isolation #14) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:59 pm

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In post 396, Greywing wrote:
In post 367, jmo16mla wrote:Like I said, I want who everyone wants to lynch tomorrow, NOW.
Mothrax, although I'll accept a lynch of Talah or Wolf. They've been pushing your wagon heavily. If you flip Town (which I highly suspect you will,) then I don't see how the scum team isn't in this group.

@Jmo: Before someone hammers you, do you see Talah as the most likely partner for Mothrax then?
I have had suspicions on JMO since page 8? I'm not an opportunist pushing a wagon. I believe he is scum and I have voted for him.
In post 400, jmo16mla wrote:Hah, I wasn't hammered by gen? Great. If you guys didn't see town intent in my posts earlier, then I don't know what you're thinking.

Talah, I've stopped caring what you say. I can't even read what you're saying. Which part is "classic scum play"? Give me examples of them. Give me examples of where you have seen this before as scum.

Gen Is still scum. He and morthax is very opportunistic. Where did I say gen wasn't talah?

Gen still LIED saying I thought mala was scummy after I voted moth.

So, where did you pull "so you're my sure about gen?" Out of your ass? Who said that? How did that quote say anything about gen?

It was clearly saying if you're not scum with mothrax, you're probably not sum. Nothing about gen.
Clearly you haven't been following the game. I put the first vote on you mate? How can I hammer when I voted you back on page 8?

Secondly, I never said that. I said there was a contradiction in your play because you:
As pointed out, you call Mala scum because she said you are grasping, but when pointed out that Mothrax did the same thing it is irrelevant? You constantly contradict yourself saying something is scummy if one player does it but then it isnt if another does it? So who is scum then, is it Mala or is it mothrax?
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Post Post #412 (isolation #15) » Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:17 am

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In post 411, jmo16mla wrote:YES!!!!!

Gen, then why did you re vote me?
Stop being lazy and go look for it. You've already put min effort into this game. I'm not fucking spoon feeding you.

Thanks Rach. Hope you get better.
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Post Post #413 (isolation #16) » Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:35 am

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Sorry about the above post. My bank card got swiped twice for the same product. I am now thus out of money and of course the bank nor the business are open so I am bit pissed off.

What I was trying to say in a nice way JMO, is that I voted you in post 211. My post's prior to that hold the answer you are looking for. It was a combination of lack of content, also known as fluff, and lack of clear scum hunting a long with a lot of tunnelling. Following my vote in post 211 you continued to post more fluff a long with contradictions in your game. I have noted all of the above in my posts throughout the game. However, if you are still feeling a little lazy to go read them, then don't worry, TRUST ME they are there.
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Post Post #419 (isolation #17) » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:58 am

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In post 415, jmo16mla wrote:I'm not? It's on your opportunistic vote. Those that used the "he's being a bad IC" excuse to vote, should be looked at closely.

I was just wondering why you revoted me. You were already voting me. Not your case.
I'm not catching on, I never revoted you? I've only laid down 1 vote and that was my original on you?
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Post Post #442 (isolation #18) » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:59 pm

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In post 436, jmo16mla wrote:Mala, your opinion on talah?

Gen, your opinion on talah?

Talah, your opinion on gen?
Talah is an interesting species. Firstly, he is set on you, quite romantic infact, maybe you should date. Jokes. Seriously though, it is quite hard to get a read on Talah let a lone anyone else because this game has become centered around JMO and Talah's argument and in my opinion for this game to move forward one of the two of you have to be lynched. I think Talah is more newb than scum. He, however, is very stubborn and thus has almost tunneled you. In a way I think he got his first scum read on you and from then on forgotten about the other players in the game. An example of this is where you asked him to give an analysis on me but he has ignored it.

To sum up I would say Talah is newb town.

I also feel the dispute between you two is becoming more personal than professional. Thus, if the game is to move forward one of you two have to go. Else day two is going to be a complete fucking dog show as day 1 has become.
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Post Post #463 (isolation #19) » Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:58 pm

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Because I have had no one else to vote for. Yes, I should probably have unvoted but the wagon was no longer their and thus there is no longer any danger of an imminent hammer.

Anyways, while you are present, please explain why in the last 150 odd posts you have done the bare minimum to contribute to scum hunting:

Post #317:
@Jmo: Since it looks like you're dying today, who would be your other choice as scum?
Post #396
Mothrax, although I'll accept a lynch of Talah or Wolf. They've been pushing your wagon heavily. If you flip Town (which I highly suspect you will,) then I don't see how the scum team isn't in this group.

@Jmo: Before someone hammers you, do you see Talah as the most likely partner for Mothrax then?
Post #398:
I thought so too at first so I went back and checked before I made that last post. You're at L-1: Wolf, Mothrax, Talah, and Hyperion.
Post #456
To all those still on the Jmo wagon: Care to explain why you still think this is a viable lynch after Jmo's Townslip after he believed he was hammered? I'm specifically looking at Mothrax and Wolf, as they've both posted since.
Now, those posts have questions but there is nothing analytical about your play. There are big gaps in between those posts where a lot happened yet you mentioned nothing about those posts? Are they irrelevant or are you just ignoring them?

Anyways,
unvote
, my only issue is that Talah and JMO need to get there shit together for day 2.

Also, Talah im not shmaaking this self voting BS.
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Post Post #464 (isolation #20) » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:13 pm

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In post 456, Greywing wrote:To all those still on the Jmo wagon: Care to explain why you still think this is a viable lynch after Jmo's Townslip after he believed he was hammered? I'm specifically looking at Mothrax and Wolf, as they've both posted since.
talah wrote:Absolutely, thanks.

VOTE: Tybalt
Explain.
@Rach: Will have limited access till Saturday, if thats ok please, have my final exam on Thursday and driving home on Friday. Will be on the forums and will follow the game but posting will be limited.


Ouens, I realise deadline is approaching so I will try and stay as involved as possible but it will be at limited times. Just a warning but also just letting you know that I am aware deadline is approaching.
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Post Post #473 (isolation #21) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:01 pm

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In post 472, jmo16mla wrote:
In post 468, tybalt wrote:Tues and I'm back, ketchup to be released. Get ready!!!!!
uh... :igmeou:
Classic.
I want our lynch to be one of Mothrax/Wolf/Talah. As I've said, I believe at least one of the scum is in this group.
Your reasonings?


This game has hit a standstill. I thought once I went to sleep I would wake up to lots of activity and all that. We need to lynch someone else D2 will be the exact same as now. I am still happy with a JMO lynch. He has been my biggest scum read the whole day and because nothing else seems to be happening. I will also vote Tybalt, his lack of play and his constant I will give you my reads now and then doesn't. Either he is just lazy, in which case I would please urge him to replace out, or its a gambit so he never has to answer up to the questions posted.

I'll be back just before deadline to make my final decision.
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Post Post #476 (isolation #22) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:32 pm

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In post 474, talah wrote:Yeah I didn't really want to post before deadline but I'm actually against a JMO lynch in principle and probably practice now. I started tunnelling him at a very early stage and have looked back over the sequence of events. I just don't think there's a lot even to be learned if JMO gets lynched and is town, because his statements are terse and easily taken in the wrong way if you've already decided he's mafia.

My two cents. JMO, Grey, Gen, Moth, are any of you prepared to switch your votes to Tybalt? HB's given a pretty good case earlier (ISOing tybalt is the easiest way to find it)
So a JMO lynch is out. Ah i don't know about tybalt, I haven't really looked at him much this game so to lynch him would just be me hopping on a wagon. Ill give his character a read over.
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Post Post #481 (isolation #23) » Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:21 am

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Ya, because I don't want to be forced into a lynch I don't approve of because we need to lynch someone.

Also its classic he keeps promising an update and never delivers.

Anyways, I'm going to put my vote where it always was. I'm not going to join a bandwagon because we need a lynch! I'm going to lynch someone I think is scum.

vote: jmo
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Post Post #488 (isolation #24) » Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:54 am

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Talah, you are just hopping on any wagon you can get, first it was jmo, then it was tybalt and now it's me. But pretty sure a page ago you said I was fine. You are just wanting to lynch anyone which I am not liking.

Honey, town slips can be faked. Difference is scum slips usually occur unknowingly to the scum player. Town slips can be manufactured and slipped into play. I'm not the biggest believer of them.

Honey, who is on the tybalt wagon please, I'm on my phone so can't really go back and check?
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Post Post #491 (isolation #25) » Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:07 am

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So hammer has been dropped?

Because I said I should have unvoted doesn't mean I was agreeing to a townslip? Just means I needed to analyse the situation. I believe town slips can be manufactured but when they occur it also means it needs to be evaluated?
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Post Post #492 (isolation #26) » Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:11 am

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Why you attacking me straight away? According to you, you have just voted off scum and thus should be celebrating. We are waiting to see his alliance when rach posts but you are acting like you already know the answer?
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Post Post #502 (isolation #27) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:23 pm

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In post 498, talah wrote:
Gen_Wolf
, caught one of your pre-crash posts and wanted to clarify that I was in no way jumping from wagon to wagon:
In post 482, talah wrote: Agreed, but unless we can get 5 people online to vote on some pretty flaky evidence um...
Fake / Pedit: Gen, we need a lynch today??
The fake edit was a question I was asking you, when I spotted that you'd 'stubborned up' and effectively said you weren't available for a tybalt lynch even if it meant causing a no-lynch. Several of the things you said in those final couple of furious hours were seemingly contradictory as well, all three of jmo, hb and myself spotted those fairly readily. Any reason for that? (Also 'flaky' means not solid (or probably 'prone to flaking apart') in my land.)
I believe I answered the contradiction. I said that because I unvoted it does not mean I agreed with a townslip but I had to look at the situation because townslips can be manufactured and thus I would rather be safe or sorry. I said it at the end of day 1 if you want to double check.

I agree we needed a lynch, however, I said I did not want to lynch Tybalt and in this instance I was correct. In other cases I might have been wrong but we left it to late and a no lynch would have been less damaging than losing our jailkeeper. It was quite a mess to end the day. However, it is obviously easier speaking in hindsight.
In post 500, Malakittens wrote:Remembrance note to look at this after work.

Also Talah. I have played with Hyper in both alignments and I have a special tell in regards of him. He's town because he's glowing with this town tell.
Do you care to let us in the loop?
In post 501, Greywing wrote:@Talah: I didn't feel as though I had much choice in the matter. As I said, it was the only point before the deadline where I'd be able to post. The people off the wagon at that point were Tybalt (who wasn't going to vote himself,) Hyperion (who had been lurking heavily,) Wolf (who outright said that he wasn't voting Tybalt,) and Mothrax who, frankly, I just don't trust. There was nothing stopping him from just lurking and letting a no-lynch go through, and he'd come out blameless. I figured it was a better play to just hammer rather than take the risk of a no-lynch happening.
You say mothrax would have been blameless for a no lynch but I also see no way we can blame him in this situation as he was not on the wagon?
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Post Post #518 (isolation #28) » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:00 pm

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Post incoming. I am on holiday with the girlfriend so quite hard to make time, will have caught up in the next few hours. After the weekend ill be back to normal
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Post Post #519 (isolation #29) » Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:49 am

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In post 508, Greywing wrote:
In post 502, Gen_Wolf wrote:
In post 501, Greywing wrote:@Talah: I didn't feel as though I had much choice in the matter. As I said, it was the only point before the deadline where I'd be able to post. The people off the wagon at that point were Tybalt (who wasn't going to vote himself,) Hyperion (who had been lurking heavily,) Wolf (who outright said that he wasn't voting Tybalt,) and Mothrax who, frankly, I just don't trust. There was nothing stopping him from just lurking and letting a no-lynch go through, and he'd come out blameless. I figured it was a better play to just hammer rather than take the risk of a no-lynch happening.
You say mothrax would have been blameless for a no lynch
but I also see no way we can blame him in this situation as he was not on the wagon?
Care to quote where I said this?
There is no where I can quote you said this because you did not say this. However, if you read it correctly you will see that I said the word 'I' that means I (Gen_Wolf) said it and never said you said it. Thus, you clearly did not read it properly.

Also, if you are unwilling to unanswer questions from the majority of the players in the game then you are useless to the game as you are not allowing me, and other players, to scum hunt thus hindering the game and our ability to catch scum.

Now, seeing as you said that you will not answer our questions then I see no need to have you in the game as with you or without you I will be achieving the same result. I think your maneuver is very scummy. In that case:

Vote: Greywing
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Post Post #541 (isolation #30) » Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:31 pm

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@JMO - im still wary of you, however i feel at this point in the game Grey is scummier than you and thats why i am voting him. I do agree with you on the fact that Hyper just echoed what you said, do you think he is lurking or just flaking like mothrax?

@Mala, how can you say you would vote me? Grey refuses to answer questions from certain players. Dont you feel that refusing to answer questions is pretty scummy?

@talah, i dont see your issue with Mala asking you questions? Do you have something to hide? Other than that i will ask you the same question as jmo, do you think we need to be wary of hyper active lurking or do you think he has flaked?
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Post Post #548 (isolation #31) » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:51 am

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Welcome GuyInFreezer :)
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Post Post #557 (isolation #32) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:14 am

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Ya i agree, from a perspective of keeping the game going if you sub out we might aswell call it. Freezer has subbed in and not even posted. Hyper seems to have flaked? Just lack of involvment all round.

Talah, ive read your posts re mala, just sum it up for me please. Also, who would you say your top scum read is right now?

Rach, prod hyper please?
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Post Post #560 (isolation #33) » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:44 am

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In post 558, jmo16mla wrote:VOTE: guy in a freezer

Someone else vote him too.
He's posted elsewhere on site which is frustrating as well
JMO, what are your thoughts at the moment? Case on anyone, anyone in particular? Mothrax was very quite before flaking, frezzer has joined and not posted. Do you think the slot has influenced that?

Rach, my intention is not to tell you how to mod and I understand that your busy but can you be a little harsher with the prodding please. I feel people are just taking advantage now.
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Post Post #568 (isolation #34) » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:11 am

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unvote

vote: Freezer


Talah, mothrax was active lurking then flaked, freezer joined and hasnt done anything so maybe there is something to hide? I am not seeing your Mala case? Because she asked you a lot of questions?

Freezer is at L1
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Post Post #570 (isolation #35) » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:49 am

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Freezer is posring elsewhere on site so it is a pressure vote. If he is not posting for a reason this gives him incentive plus he is at L 1 and people will show intent to hammer.

Talah, the question is pointless, going by gut is just guessing. It doesnt help at all. My vote on Mothrax/Freezer slot at least has some substance to it.
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Post Post #574 (isolation #36) » Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:04 am

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In post 572, talah wrote:Gen I doubt Frezzer's even aware he's in this game, have you looked over the newbie queue? Take your freezer vote off, now.
unvote


I did it because you took your vote off me but my intent is there for Freezer. That slot has done nothing all game so is that because they are scum or VT? Thoughts Talah?
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Post Post #592 (isolation #37) » Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:51 pm

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Cool well now that Freezer has arrived im going to put my vote where it was

vote: Greywing


Will wait for freezers reads
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Post Post #603 (isolation #38) » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:28 pm

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Talah literally asked every question I had prepared for Hyper.

I do not like how he lurks, comes in and says I am oppertunistic, when I explained my reason, and then he himself hops on the leading wagon (which his is a serious vote) hypocrite much. Hyper you have some answering to do.

@Mala, your thougts on hyper?

@Freezer, can we expect your catch up soon?
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Post Post #609 (isolation #39) » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:07 am

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And I passed my exams so to put it nicely I will be getting fuck drunk :-)
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Post Post #610 (isolation #40) » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:08 am

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Sorry, and Happy 4th July to all it affects!!
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Post Post #615 (isolation #41) » Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:14 pm

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In post 611, talah wrote:
In post 608, talah wrote:
Well you see there was this little document written up telling King George we were sick of him and well us American types DO consider July 4th a holiday :P ... Rach
Damn Yankees with your "documents" and "celebrations".
In post 609, Gen_Wolf wrote:And I passed my exams so to put it nicely I will be getting fuck drunk :-)
Damn South Africans with your "exams" and "celebrations". Congrats Gen!
Thanks Talah :)
In post 614, talah wrote:And @
Hyper
, you are at L-2.

I wouldn't have too much trouble thinking that Gen might vote you with Freezer oopsHammering.

Are you going to sit back and not play the game with a few neutral observations laid down?
To be honest I get the impression he does not want to play but posts so he does not get prodded. He should sub out so we get someone who wants to play.
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Post Post #623 (isolation #42) » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:51 am

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In post 622, Malakittens wrote:

@Rach:

Please replace me. I just got a call that a close family member passed away. I can no longer be in game due to this.
Mala, very sorry to hear this news. Wishing you the best.
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Post Post #647 (isolation #43) » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:41 am

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I dont like hyper and freezer flying under the radar. Talah you are very confident tomorrow is happening, something you would like to share?

ninjad. i believe tomorrow is lylo
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Post Post #648 (isolation #44) » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:42 am

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ah i was being silly, i thought one scum was dead already but that was my other game sorry. error apologies.
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Post Post #655 (isolation #45) » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:39 am

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I love how in 5 days or so of playing that is what you came up with Freezer. I obviously disagree with your read though. If that is all you came up with then you obviously havent read in depth.

Talah I never said I was in the clear or acted in such a fashion haha

I just feel Hyper has done nothing and Freezer seems to just be doing the bare minimum. Convinient his suspicions came just after I called him out for no activity. He stated we would have his update for us by Monday and it is now Tuesday.
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Post Post #661 (isolation #46) » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:45 am

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Arnt we in twilight, wont it be locked? Pope was hypocritical, thats what Grey didnt like.
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Post Post #663 (isolation #47) » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:48 am

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your muddeling me up now. Pope hasnt been in the game as long as Freezer. Plus Freezer said he will carry on reading yet he just posted in another game so he seems to be avoiding the game.

ok i will use my stern voice *stern voice*Pope and Freezer, post now or feel my wrath*stern voice*
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Post Post #666 (isolation #48) » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:55 am

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Yeah but we gave him the courtesy till monday and now it is tuesday. He has the whole night phase now so I expect amazing things day 3 from him. Same with pope
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Post Post #668 (isolation #49) » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:58 am

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Why you protecting him so much?
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Post Post #674 (isolation #50) » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:08 am

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Well we not going to win by being leniant. I have doubts and I air them. Cannot trust anyone so I am skeptical of his play. Cant even remember mothrax so I will have to go back and reread tbh. I am not saying Freezer is scum, I am just saying I do not like his lack of activity.

I dont understand your post above but grey claimed town after he was hammered so yes i expect him to flip town. He was hammered, why lie?
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Post Post #680 (isolation #51) » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:22 am

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Yeah we will see. I was meant to say I had a good laugh at that :-) I am upset I have had no compliments :P Cool, I have to go.
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Post Post #733 (isolation #52) » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:33 am

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or Drunk?
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Post Post #735 (isolation #53) » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:36 am

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both? This is the weirdest and longest twighlight ever. Anyway I might be v.la when D3 begins. I might be having an op so its not definative but just in case

yeah, he is def on crack
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Post Post #737 (isolation #54) » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:47 am

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Just messing with you Talah. Explain to Freezer he seems to have an issue with in. We do have cell phones in SA you know. We also have this thing called google, it is pretty cool. Wait till you get it :P
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Post Post #745 (isolation #55) » Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:18 pm

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The fact JMO is still alive worries me because he was my intial scum read.

I want to hear Tamuz's views. A new perspective is always enlightening
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Post Post #793 (isolation #56) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:09 am

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Nice stunt JMO.

Pope, now you see why JMO is scummy and you accuse me of being scum, idiot.
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Post Post #795 (isolation #57) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:11 am

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talah(replacement?)/jmo scum team
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Post Post #799 (isolation #58) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:16 am

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Throwing your vote around loosely in lylo plus scum would have quick lynched. Yet they didnt, that leads me to believe they couldnt hop on the wagon because one was already on the wagon, you, and the other is not around at the moment

ninja'd - that is true but before replacement has chance to cast their opinions???
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Post Post #800 (isolation #59) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:18 am

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In post 798, jmo16mla wrote:
In post 745, Gen_Wolf wrote:I want to hear Tamuz's views. A new perspective is always enlightening
were you enlightened?
no im still waiting...
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Post Post #804 (isolation #60) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:22 am

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i presume you are refering to this part I 'have to agree that is was better to have a lynch then a no lynch, but it's sad we lynched a pr off. :('?
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Post Post #805 (isolation #61) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:23 am

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In post 803, jmo16mla wrote:
In post 799, Gen_Wolf wrote:Throwing your vote around loosely in lylo plus scum would have quick lynched. Yet they didnt, that leads me to believe they couldnt hop on the wagon because one was already on the wagon, you, and the other is not around at the moment
who else posted besides me and TIP?
me and now tamuz which leaves you and n64
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Post Post #809 (isolation #62) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:30 am

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I disagree. I personally feel a no lynch would be better but I have been shunned upon lately. I disagree with the logic.

the question seems genuine and the part in the middle is pure fluff filling the post?

vote jmo.
you should have been lynched d1
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Post Post #815 (isolation #63) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:34 am

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im not scum with him because you are scum. Your logic makes no sense yet you vote first.

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now explain then i will decide
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Post Post #819 (isolation #64) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:36 am

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who is t? Tamuz?
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Post Post #824 (isolation #65) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:38 am

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i need to sleep. Im still for jmo lynch.
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Post Post #879 (isolation #66) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:25 pm

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In post 878, Tamuz wrote:
In post 876, TheIrishPope wrote:Then fucking replace out; it's better for Town to have a committed person to play
Fuck you.
I'm clearly committed, I just don't want 3 pages where 78% of the posts are one liners with no content.

Grow the fuck up. Realize you're playing with humans in FORUM mafia and we want real posts not this shit 1-liner 'i'm not scum' -- 'i'm not either' back and forth shit.

Go play chat if you want to play like you are. I will not play with you or jmo ever again and I will move to rescind IC status from either of you after this game. There is nothing positive the way you have acted in this game can introduce to a newbie. The way you are playing is destroying any enjoyability this game could have. If you continue as you are, I will not respond to you. You aren't reading anyone anyways with you desire to spam multi-posts, so it'll be no different but I won't shit-post 5 posts in a row.


The game numbers, that I have talked about.

Like I said everything, numbers logic and gut agree TIP are scum. JMO is being a king douche, but the numbers don't think he is scum.


NameSTMTMSSSPosts
Greywing836140
N64Lord luigilewis889 talah6453211
guyinfreezer mothrax257957
honey bee189936
jmo16mla5285200
malakittens theirishpope9144109
thanearvan gen_wolf462973
tybalt373915
uoyeluri hyperion fropome tamuz791245


first letter:
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M= mostly
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t= towny



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uoyeluri hyperion fropome tamuz       0.6756162271716952
thanearvan gen_wolf     0.6728301095095651
N64Lord luigilewis889 talah    0.6171990188595428
guyinfreezer mothrax    	0.8751339373427004
malakittens theirishpope    0.6450976867731328
jmo16mla    0.9180717607909971


Higher is townier
i agree 100% re one liners.

I might be being silly but can you explain the numbers above to me please?

TIP rather than say you are town all day long build a case on who you think is scum!

JMO, including this game, how many othertimes have you played scum?

Tamuz, who would you vote first, JMO or TIP? According to your numbers scum team is n64 and tip yet you say jmo and tip?

N64, am i seirously your biggest suspicion considering what you saw over the last 4 pages from tweedle dee and rweedle dumb?
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Post Post #888 (isolation #67) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:52 am

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In post 881, N64Lord wrote:You do realize that hyperion slots number would be nearly .466 if he had a greater number of posts(with the same strongly scummy to strongly town ratio)

Gen Wolf's arguments on d3 are mostly that jmo and TIP are doing mylo recklessly and a need for everyone to post their reads on who the two scum are.
In post 758, TheIrishPope wrote:Well, that makes sense
I know people have said that jmo is scummy, but his ISO doesn't jump out at me. I won't be voting him anytime soon.
Tamuz is kind of null right now, but I don't know how to feel of this last post, because he is rushing
Gen_Wolf is nullscum, he's definitely not Town, and that's why I want to see the replacement
Popcorn to Tamuz; reads, if you would
In post 809, Gen_Wolf wrote:I disagree. I personally feel a no lynch would be better but I have been shunned upon lately. I disagree with the logic.

the question seems genuine and the part in the middle is pure fluff filling the post?

vote jmo.
you should have been lynched d1
Even if he is talking about d2, I don't see this coming from town, and he plays up that the vote was due to frustration.
so my d1 case on him is insignificant. protecting your scum buddy there?
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Post Post #889 (isolation #68) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:57 am

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In post 887, Tamuz wrote:
In post 758, TheIrishPope wrote:Well, that makes sense
I know people have said that jmo is scummy, but his ISO doesn't jump out at me. I won't be voting him anytime soon.
Tamuz is kind of null right now, but I don't know how to feel of this last post, because he is rushing
Gen_Wolf is nullscum, he's definitely not Town, and that's why I want to see the replacement
Popcorn to Tamuz; reads, if you would
Thank you for taking this opportunity to actually post content and not trying to bait a larger discussion of how much you are posting without ever actually adding anything to the game.

Heaven forbid I try to ask you to post about the game and stop posting in a manner that is detrimental and distracting to the game.

We will not find the scum because you won't work with the town at all.

You have plenty of opportunity to scumhunt and instead you have spent that railing against a, at first, kind request that you stop spamming.

Gen, N64. I am ready to vote TIP, this is going nowhere. If either of you have lines of discussion I am happy to talk with you about them.
The only reason I am weary to vote TIP because mala seemed townie and influential. However, the fact TIP is bussing me makes me want to vote him. I would prefer a JMO lynch? Run your TIP case by me again please? Sorry, its cause its lylo and im scared haha
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Post Post #911 (isolation #69) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:35 am

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In post 894, jmo16mla wrote:Gen, you seemed to have missed this.
In post 884, jmo16mla wrote:So my question for you gen, what over the last four pages, makes me and/or tip scum?
Sorry I did miss it:

It does include the way you have played over the last 4 pages but in particular it is how you have played the hole game that makes you scummy.


Also, what made you vote me when I was voting for TIP?
In post 908, TheIrishPope wrote:You will see there is no counterclaim, so you can wait until the remaining people talk (Tamuz, N64, and Gen) and then please please please lynch scum?

Guys, at some point we are going to have to lynch, I hate losing so I hope you are right but I think Tamuz has the most compelling case. I am willing to vote TiP today, lets hope you right.

It is a little bit of an omgus, heres for trying to bus me Pope, but sorry,

this bus is full, muddafuka ;)

Lets bite this bullet
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Post Post #923 (isolation #70) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:39 pm

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In post 920, jmo16mla wrote:Mk. To add to the above post. Either both scum are on the wagon right now.
One scum is BEING waggoned and the other is voting him.
One scum is being waggoned, and the other scum is not voting him.

I still want to go with TIP an gen scum team. The whole game sets them up as scum together. Gen was dropping town tells, or what I thought could have been town tells earlier. But he has since ignored my questions multiple times. Leading me to believe that he isn't actually reading the game(scum) and is just posting about current discussion.
Sorry roadtripped yesterday then was drunk last night, will go back and look over it.

for now

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Post Post #935 (isolation #71) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:49 pm

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Oaks im going to be v/la till Sunday. Apologies but we have 8 days so no need to panic. Thanks
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Post Post #957 (isolation #72) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:53 pm

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Post incoming
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Post Post #959 (isolation #73) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:11 pm

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Cool, sorry for the delay, I had a life to live and now have time for mafia.
In post 920, jmo16mla wrote:Mk. To add to the above post. Either both scum are on the wagon right now.
One scum is BEING waggoned and the other is voting him.
One scum is being waggoned, and the other scum is not voting him.

I still want to go with TIP an gen scum team. The whole game sets them up as scum together. Gen was dropping town tells, or what I thought could have been town tells earlier.
But he has since ignored my questions multiple times.
Leading me to believe that he isn't actually reading the game(scum) and is just posting about current discussion.
I answered them, you just didn't get the answer you wanted to hear. However, if I have missed one please do point me to the post number and I will be happy to answer it.
In post 938, Tamuz wrote:For quick reference:
Gen_wolf:
Tamuz wrote:
Guys, at some point we are going to have to lynch, I hate losing so I hope you are right but I think Tamuz has the most compelling case. I am willing to vote TiP today, lets hope you right.
1. What?
2. You hope TIP is right about his claim?
jmo16mla wrote: 1. So my question for you gen, what over the last four pages, makes me and/or tip scum?
2. Also, what made you vote me when I was voting for TIP?
3. Why dd you unvote if he was in no danger of being quick hammered?
4. Do you think TIP is now town?
Gen_Wolf wrote:Oaks im going to be v/la till Sunday. Apologies but we have 8 days so no need to panic. Thanks

Hard post to write or something? Enjoy your weekend!
Nah, had to get back to uni and it is quite a drive I might add. However, if you'd like to believe it was a hard post to write, go ahead and add it to those numbers you have made.
In post 941, Tamuz wrote:So it is generally accepted that the L-2 vote is scummy, so lets look at L-2 votes (and L-1 votes because why not). Obviously I won't count today.

SlotL-2L-1Hammer
jmo010
N64lord910
tybalt000
Tamuz110
TheIrishPope001
Greywing001
Honey Bee100
mothrax200
Gen_wolf200


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My work if you want to track the votes yourself.
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jmo16mla votes Honey bee. Votes change: 0 to 1
Malakittens&TheIrishPope vote jmo16mla. Votes change: 0 to 1
Greywing votes Tamuz&Hyperion&Fropome&uoyeluri. Votes change: 0 to 1
mothrax&GuyInFreezer vote tybalt. Votes change: 0 to 1
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote Greywing. Votes change: 0 to 1
Greywing votes Malakittens&TheIrishPope. Votes change: 0 to 1
jmo16mla votes Greywing. Votes change: 1 to 2
Honey bee votes Greywing. Votes change: 2 to 3
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord unvote
Tamuz&Hyperion&Fropome&uoyeluri vote mothrax&GuyInFreezer. Votes change: 0 to 1
tybalt votes ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf. Votes change: 0 to 1
Malakittens&TheIrishPope unvote
mothrax&GuyInFreezer vote Greywing. Votes change: 2 to 3
jmo16mla votes ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf. Votes change: 1 to 2
Greywing votes Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord. Votes change: 0 to 1
Malakittens&TheIrishPope vote tybalt. Votes change: 0 to 1
Honey bee votes tybalt. Votes change: 1 to 2
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf. Votes change: 2 to 3
ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf vote Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord. Votes change: 1 to 2
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote Greywing. Votes change: 2 to 3
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote Malakittens&TheIrishPope. Votes change: 0 to 1
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote jmo16mla. Votes change: 0 to 1
Tamuz&Hyperion&Fropome&uoyeluri unvote
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord unvote
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote Greywing. Votes change: 2 to 3
Greywing votes Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord. Votes change: 1 to 2
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf. Votes change: 2 to 3
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord unvote
tybalt votes jmo16mla. Votes change: 0 to 1
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote Greywing. Votes change: 2 to 3
ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf unvote
ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf vote jmo16mla. Votes change: 1 to 2
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord unvote
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote jmo16mla. Votes change: 2 to 3
tybalt votes Greywing. Votes change: 2 to 3
jmo16mla votes Malakittens&TheIrishPope. Votes change: 0 to 1
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote tybalt. Votes change: 2 to 3
mothrax&GuyInFreezer vote jmo16mla. Votes change: 2 to 3
jmo16mla votes mothrax&GuyInFreezer. Votes change: 0 to 1
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote jmo16mla. Votes change: 2 to 3
Greywing votes mothrax&GuyInFreezer. Votes change: 1 to 2
Tamuz&Hyperion&Fropome&uoyeluri vote jmo16mla. Votes change: 3 to 4
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord. Votes change: 0 to 1
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote tybalt. Votes change: 2 to 3
ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf unvote
jmo16mla votes tybalt. Votes change: 3 to 4
ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf vote jmo16mla. Votes change: 2 to 3
Greywing votes tybalt. Votes change: 4 to 5

tybalt has been lynched

Lynch Vote Count:
tybalt	-	jmo16mla,Honey bee,Greywing,Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord,Malakittens&TheIrishPope	Total: 5
Honey bee	-		Total: 0
Greywing	-	tybalt,Honey bee	Total: 2
Tamuz&Hyperion&Fropome&uoyeluri	-		Total: 0
ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf	-		Total: 0
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord	-	Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord	Total: 1
mothrax&GuyInFreezer	-	jmo16mla,Greywing	Total: 2
Malakittens&TheIrishPope	-		Total: 0
jmo16mla	-	Tamuz&Hyperion&Fropome&uoyeluri,ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf,mothrax&GuyInFreezer	Total: 3

Greywing votes Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord. Votes change: 0 to 1
ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf vote Greywing. Votes change: 0 to 1
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote Greywing. Votes change: 1 to 2
jmo16mla votes mothrax&GuyInFreezer. Votes change: 0 to 1
Greywing votes mothrax&GuyInFreezer. Votes change: 1 to 2
ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf vote mothrax&GuyInFreezer. Votes change: 2 to 3
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf. Votes change: 0 to 1
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote Greywing. Votes change: 0 to 1
ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf unvote
ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf vote Greywing. Votes change: 1 to 2
Tamuz&Hyperion&Fropome&uoyeluri vote Greywing. Votes change: 2 to 3
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord unvote
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote Tamuz&Hyperion&Fropome&uoyeluri. Votes change: 0 to 1
jmo16mla votes Tamuz&Hyperion&Fropome&uoyeluri. Votes change: 1 to 2
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote Greywing. Votes change: 2 to 3
Malakittens&TheIrishPope vote Greywing. Votes change: 3 to 4

Greywing has been lynched

Lynch Vote Count:
Greywing	-	Tamuz&Hyperion&Fropome&uoyeluri,ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf,Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord,Malakittens&TheIrishPope	Total: 4
Tamuz&Hyperion&Fropome&uoyeluri	-	jmo16mla	Total: 1
ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf	-		Total: 0
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord	-		Total: 0
mothrax&GuyInFreezer	-	Greywing	Total: 1

Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote jmo16mla. Votes change: 0 to 1
jmo16mla votes Malakittens&TheIrishPope. Votes change: 0 to 1
jmo16mla unvotes
ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf vote jmo16mla. Votes change: 1 to 2
ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf unvote
jmo16mla unvotes
Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord vote Malakittens&TheIrishPope. Votes change: 0 to 1
ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf vote Malakittens&TheIrishPope. Votes change: 1 to 2
ThaneArvan&Gen_Wolf unvote

Vote Count:
jmo16mla	-		Total: 0
Malakittens&TheIrishPope	-	Luigilewis889&talah&N64Lord	Total: 1

Thats a lot of L-2 from N64. If these numbers are perfect then why do we play the game? It is very easy to go out and throw numbers around, but in instances, like this, numbers cannot always answer your problems Tamuz. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Anyways, my thoughts up until this point (This is my first sweep, I will get back now and do the next one). What is frustrating me is this attitude between Tamuz and JMO that they are accepted townies and now we must all adhere to what they say, when they say jump we jump, inevitably we do not know if they are town or scum and thus I think this 'know it all, we are town' attitude they got going is complete bullshit.

N64, TIP and myself must now run around and do whatever they say. I think what frustrates me is that very likely one is definitely town, maybe even both. However, the fact they have now buddied up as 'town buddies' gives an easy opportunity for one of them to be scum and skate home free. Remember this is mafia and anyone could be scum.

Anyways, I will go back and read over N64, TIP, and JMO and see if anything stands out. However, you already seem very set on lynching me so just to make life easier for all of us I am VT. I feel scum is JMO, TIP, N64. However, this information is useless as if you lynch me the game will end.
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Post Post #961 (isolation #74) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:18 am

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In post 960, jmo16mla wrote:Or we are both town and you're scum.
That's what you feel. You obviously wont change your mind but I am just hoping Tamuz has some sense to reconsider.
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Post Post #999 (isolation #75) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:57 pm

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In post 918, Tamuz wrote:To flesh out completely the things that sit terribly, replacing pronouns and references:
Gen_wolf wrote: Guys, at some point we are going to have to lynch, I hate losing so I hope [TIP is] right (about his alignment) but I think Tamuz has the most compelling case (against TIP). I am willing to vote TIP today, lets hope (Tamuz ?) is right.
There is a direct contradiction here. You can't have both hopes and be consistent. Maybe I'm resolving pronouns poorly, but there is direct contradiction here.
Gen_wolf wrote:It is a little bit of an omgus, heres for trying to bus me Pope, but sorry
This obviously just bothers me because bussing is only scum on scum.
If Gen is explicitly stating that Pope tried that says:
1. Pope is scum
2. Gen is scum
3. Pope tried to lynch Gen to improve his towncred

Thats wonky as shit.
For the first part, congratulations, your English is amazing, here is a gold star :) I presume you were asking for recognition of your brilliance and you nailed it.

As for the 2nd part. Pope did try bus me? How does that make me scum?
1. Pope is scum - very likely correct
2. Gen is scum - most definitely incorrect
3. Pope tried to lynch Gen to improve his town cred - Probably?


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He, um, could have. But he could also be your partner wanting a perfect scum win. Hoping him not hammering will clear him as town.
I did not expect this out of your mouth. Some sense has finally struck JMO. I honestly expected this amazing logic out of Tamuz is mouth. However, Tamuz was very closed to the idea that you were scum. As if he was very happy buddying up with another player who he definitively knew was town. JMO, I am starting to have second thoughts about you now.

Anyways, I claimed VT to let you know what position I am, duh. Doesn't much help seeing as we are in lylo but as bad as this sounds I am bored of this game and just want it to end.

Pope, to answer your question:

I changed my mind:

Lynch TiP, then;
Lynch Tamuz.

@Tamuz, sorry let me give you a quick detailed update of my six days prior to posting that 'very hard post':
Tuesday:
I woke up early, about 6 o' clock. I had a shower and then loaded my car up with all my belongings. I sat down and had a coffee with my mom and then got into my car and drove from durban (where we now live) to Joburg where I was staying with friends. That evening I went out to ballbreakers (a pool hall) and got rather drunk. Then I went home and slept.

Wednesday: I woke up feeling rather ill. I sat on the couch watching tv till about 12 when I had a shower. We then went to the body worlds exhibition. It is where people donated their bodies to science and a person preserves them and displays them in different positions to allow you to see what muscles do what and where your organs are and how they work. Very fascinating but very morbid as well. Anyways, after that I went home, had some food and then took a nap. That evening I cooked supper, a nice Alfredo, and we watched Django Unchained. A good movie I might add.

Thursday: I woke up excited as the Ashes test was starting. I got up, went to the couch and watched sport. After an hour or so I had to go to the shops and by my supplies for uni. I was out for quite a while. When I was done I was quiet exhausted so I sat down, cracked a beer and continued watching cricket. Another friend of ours then arrived and we played quite a bit of CoD on xbox. We then got dropped off at our local and drank there till we were kicked out. We then moved to another place to drink, this time more club vibes and carried on till the wee hours of the morning.

Friday: Now, if I felt bad on Wedneday, I felt twice as bad on Friday. The morning was a complete right off lying feeling ill. I was then meeting an old school friend for lunch so that took up a few hours. I then got back and had to repack everything into my car. Then I sat down ate supper, watched sport (again) and went to bed nice and early.

Saturday: Woke up at 5. Was on the road by 5.30 - Grahamstown bound. What a road trip that was, 12 hours later and I was in Grahamstown. 1 hour after that I was in the local watering hole doing myself a solid one and getting drunk.

Sunday: My GF arrived. Try explaining to your GF (when/if you get one) that mafiascum is more important than her. Very unlikely. Thus I spent the day with her.

Monday: I had lectures, whilst in my lectures I posted :)

So yes, it was a hard post to write from the sense I didn't have much time to do it but from a difficulty perspective it wasn't that bad at all, no :)
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Post Post #1045 (isolation #76) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:30 pm

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I am not scum. You are throwing the game away sadly.

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Post Post #1083 (isolation #77) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:27 pm

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And there was Tamuz saying that my claim was useless because everyone was VT. Scum team found thank you. Pope and Tamuz
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Post Post #1085 (isolation #78) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:02 pm

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In post 1084, Tamuz wrote:
In post 1001, Tamuz wrote:But you understand this is completely stupid, right? With an uncontested BP claim and a JK dead everyone left is a VT.
So about lying Gen_Wolf, I clearly mention TIPs BP claim.
My bad, missed that. Retract my last comment. A mistake and a lie are very different. Very quick on the accusations though Tamuz
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #79) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:14 am

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In post 1086, Tamuz wrote:Why would I not believe you are lying? I think you are scum and you just tried to bullshit up this 'a-ha I got you' reasoning that was completely based on an assertion of yours. An assertion I can completely destroy with cold hard history.

But since you're actually here:
In post 1048, Tamuz wrote:Gen you still have things to address.

In post 964, Tamuz wrote:
Gen_Wolf wrote:However, if I have missed one please do point me to the post number and I will be happy to answer it.
Did you say this before quoting a post full of questions that you ignored ironically or was that unironically? :mrgreen:

You still need to address this post.

I answered this in post 999

However, if you'd like to believe it was a hard post to write, go ahead and add it to those numbers you have made.
It did only take you 6 days with 3 excuses to write a post that ultimately was complaining, hypocrisy and solipsism. So I do believe making a good post was difficult for you, since you made a bad post, lets go to that!

I answered this in post 999, if you do not believe my story then I am sorry. It is quite funny that you now are claiming I am lying about my real day life when you live halfway across the world in a very sheltered community, I presume.

Thats a lot of L-2 from N64. If these numbers are perfect then why do we play the game? It is very easy to go out and throw numbers around, but in instances, like this, numbers cannot always answer your problems Tamuz. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Thank you for the support backing up your assertion. I will give up ever quantifying anything because its possible that the thing quantified is not a good indicator. Also other than the .40% scum or the 2/3 scum numbers numbers are
not
easy to throw around or you would see everyone doing it. Instead its just me and, once upon a time, Adel.

Congratulations, what address can I post your certificate to?

What is frustrating me is this attitude between Tamuz and JMO that they are accepted townies and now we must all adhere to what they say, when they say jump we jump, inevitably we do not know if they are town or scum and thus I think this 'know it all, we are town' attitude they got going is complete bullshit.
We didn't just magic ourselves into 'town-reads'. We legitimately read, poked, prodded and in jmo's case gambitted in order to get ideas of alignment. We're actually scumhunting. If you think poking and prodding is telling you to jump and expecting you to jump (which you don't do) then whatever. You are perfectly welcome to take a tangent that we haven't talked about or directed for information on and scum hunt down that tangent. But really you haven't done that. You limped on to my vitriol of TIP, ignored buttloads of things directed to you and whined that jmo and I are the ones pushing the town.

Sorry, who has you down as a town read? Apparently you just did 'magic' yourself into a town-read because I certainly do not think you are town, and from what I understand JMO has some hesitation towards it as well, a long with N64. Well I don't feel that you are trustworthy and thus I am sorry I don't reply to every single statement thrown my way by you. You seem to be doing a great job scum hunting by the way, we have 3 days or so left and we currently have votes split three ways, bravo.

However, the fact they have now buddied up as 'town buddies' gives an easy opportunity for one of them to be scum and skate home free. Remember this is mafia and anyone could be scum.
Because the vetting process wasn't difficult at all or anything. Remember this is day 3 of mafia and everyone has their own unique probability distribution of who they believe is mafia. Anyone could be scum, but the likelihood of everyone being scum will not be the same.

Seems like fluff to me


And to the hypocrisy:
Anyways, I will go back and read over N64, TIP, and JMO and see if anything stands out. However, you already seem very set on lynching me so just to make life easier for all of us I am VT. I feel scum is JMO, TIP, N64. However, this information is useless as if you lynch me the game will end.
You whine so much that there is this town--pair of Tamuz and JMO and then you just try to make a latent partnership with me, lol.

Also how does you claiming VT make anything easier on us?
You are encouraged to scumhunt. There is a wealth of info. Will you even try finding scum?
How is appealing to you to reconsider your 'buddied upness(?)' with JMO trying to make a latent partnership with you? I was appealing to your common sense. I answered the second part



Although chances are you ignore everything and disappear for 24 hours again.
Anyways, seeing as I have now answered all that for you. The majority of it was statements. I did not realise I had to reply to every statement you made which either was about a post of mine, or made reference to me. However, in the future I will keep that in mind. Anything else King Tamuz?

p.s. Answers are bolded by the way.
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Post Post #1099 (isolation #80) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:14 am

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In post 1098, TheIrishPope wrote: You fail to mention that N64 DID NOT POST and COULDN'T HAVE HAMMERED
Okay cool. Then in the town pile we have TIP, JMO, Tamuz, and Gen Wolf.
In the null pile is N64 because he did not post while TIP was at L-1.
Pretty sure he mentioned it?
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Post Post #1137 (isolation #81) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:51 am

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In post 1136, N64Lord wrote:TIP just made a scum team based on omgus+easy lynches, with no mention of their history, I wish I had the foresight to see that earlier!
Who is his partner if he turns out to be scum?
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Post Post #1148 (isolation #82) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:11 am

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Vote: Tamuz


I am not worried about a quick hammer because I know you are scum. I know this because I am not scum, and JMO is townier of the two of you.

I don't want this game to drag on. If I am wrong and JMO is scum then GG.
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Post Post #1154 (isolation #83) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:25 pm

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In post 1152, Tamuz wrote:VOTE: Gen_Wolf
I didn't see this one coming! /sarcasm
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Post Post #1156 (isolation #84) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:48 pm

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Me? I know I am not scum.

I have been here since the beggining (almost) and I have said everything I need to.

uoyeluri Fropome* Hyperion** Tamuz - this slot however has been doing nothing until Tamuz arrived and then just because activity arose from a slot where there was none before he is given townie recognition. I know he will say that he earned it and he worked for it but that is bollocks. The only reason people don't see his play as scummy is because there was no one in that slot prior to him actually playing so we have nothing to gauge his play against.
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Post Post #1158 (isolation #85) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:39 pm

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Mellow. JMO must just vote me then end the game. You have a very good way of making the games un-entertaining.

Anyways, I am ready for the almighty twist. I see the newspaper headlines tomorrow "Tamuz replaces in to get an almost perfect scum win". People will be shouting your name from the rooftops. People will be speaking of Newbie 1381 for centuries. This game will set a precedent throughout mafiascum that will overshadow any past achievement ever ascertained on this site. They will speak of how you fought to the very end. You will be a scum legend among scum, a ultimate victor among victors. One day, in my children's history class they will speak of Tamuz, the almighty mafiascum player who was so good he fooled everyone by creating fake numbers to ascertain 'who was scum'. When the numbers did not work, it was through no fault of his own, obviously, but rather the fault of the townie who did not act townie enough. They will praise you, worship you, honour you. For you are the almighty Tamuz.

Anyways, that is how I feel about this game. Sad that it has come to this but glad the end is in sight.

You see, I know I am not scum and yes if I want to speak from a negative perspective I will. At the end of the day it makes no difference, ultimately I could say "I know I am town" but you see Tamuz, I am town unlike you. Now, saying you have played a better game than me to convince JMO you are town and I am scum would be a lie. You played a harder game than me, and that I can admit.
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Post Post #1162 (isolation #86) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:43 pm

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In post 1161, Tamuz wrote:Oh and my trip got postponed for bad weather :( , so I'm here and not VLA now.

New plan is to head out next Wednesday. I do expect this game to be over by then, but I figure I should keep the VLA stuff up to date.
Rather safe than sorry with the weather though :)

Anyways, i don't have much to say until I hear from JMO
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Post Post #1165 (isolation #87) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:01 pm

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I am playing.

Just putting my case together
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Post Post #1184 (isolation #88) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:10 pm

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Sorry guys, I have to /out Uni is taking its toll. Sorry to leave you at such a crucial stage. JMO, don't do anything silly just let my replacement show you how Tamuz is scummmy. Otherwise, I enjoyed playing with you all, hope to see you in the near future.
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