Open 767: Nomination Mafia [Day 7]

[TrueSoulEnergy]

NM I found the game link.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

So is creature replacing out means hes scum?

Why would you come to that conclusion.
Also I was expecting to get something like VT, Citizen or Mafia Goon.
But I get Town so yeah know, no clue if I have abilities, so let me look at the rolelist here.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Ok so I’m VT but hey DM’ed Town.
Nice.
Alright I’ll do some ISOing later.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

@Suj Which post? I am under intense stress IRL. I'll comment today.

@Joey, I think GL is more genuine. Nee just sounds like he's trying to lynch not himself and keep his options open on me. GL and I ho way back to my noob days. I feel confident in his ability to see I am town

Ok with this post here
Suj/Joey is a TVS.

Usually Scum, at least when I flip scum in my games, will try and involve their mafia member in a conversation but then distance from another.

So the way that this was setup. I feel like 1 of Suj/Joey was @ed just to add conversation with a mafia member while the other is Town.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Let me ISO those 2 now to see which one of them is most likely to flip Mafia.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I heavily considered replacing out after D2’s hammer for school, I haven’t since because otherwise it would feel like I am dodging the lynch & my ego is too big for that, shrugs

This here makes me feel as this is extra content that doesn’t need to be added.

I heavily considered replacing out after D2’s hammer for school, I haven’t since because otherwise it would feel like I am dodging the lynch & my ego is too big for that, shrugs

Lol wtf @nEE. I can prove I have bad history w/ Titus, the claim itself is NAI since its objective infos. Also, you basically fos me for fosing you and only because titus flipped mafia lmao

This feels that you are saying you voted Titus for bad history over exactly being scummy.

Other then these posts I don’t really see anything that stands out. Although I’m kinda rushing through this because I got lots to do today may also be why I can’t find anything.
Anyway, let’s move on to the next guy.

Why do you townread nEE? Lynchpool assumptions?

Yes.

Seems awfully agreeful

Why do you townread nEE? Lynchpool assumptions?

Yes.

Also why do you SL creature?

He was off the Titus lynch, is shading all players I think to be town, and has not contributed much other than that recently.

That’s just called bad town. Seems to me that your trying to form a misslynch.

Why do you townread nEE? Lynchpool assumptions?

Yes.

Also why do you SL creature?

He was off the Titus lynch, is shading all players I think to be town, and has not contributed much other than that recently.

I disagree that I needed encouragement to vote Titus (and I didn't need a greenlight from you). I wanted to interact with her prior to placing my vote, which is what I did. I would also like to point out that people saying they were okay with voting someone and then being reluctant to do so would indicate the person being voted was more likely to be scum.

I've been providing my reasoning for my reads and actions. I don't think that's scummy. I think that's part of how you figure out the game. You seem to be projecting yourself onto my actions, and I think that's a bad basis for generating a read on someone as they are not you.

Providing reasons is Null as personality isn’t Alignment Indicative. Are you saying he’s projecting himself to look bad?

Why do you townread nEE? Lynchpool assumptions?

Yes.

Also why do you SL creature?

He was off the Titus lynch, is shading all players I think to be town, and has not contributed much other than that recently.

I disagree that I needed encouragement to vote Titus (and I didn't need a greenlight from you). I wanted to interact with her prior to placing my vote, which is what I did. I would also like to point out that people saying they were okay with voting someone and then being reluctant to do so would indicate the person being voted was more likely to be scum.

I've been providing my reasoning for my reads and actions. I don't think that's scummy. I think that's part of how you figure out the game. You seem to be projecting yourself onto my actions, and I think that's a bad basis for generating a read on someone as they are not you.

I didn't like your responses.

VOTE: Titus

Didn’t like responses?
What’s you with Responses and Reasoning being alignment indicative?
VOTE: Sujimichi

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Seems awfully agreeful

Would you prefer that I lie? Pointing out one thing and saying “pretty agreeful” seems disingenuous and reaching for a reason.

That’s just called bad town. Seems to me that your trying to form a misslynch

It’s bad town if you are town. Otherwise it’s scum. I haven’t formed enough of an opinion and am not making a push on your slot, so this is again reaching for a reason.

Providing reasons is Null as personality isn’t Alignment Indicative. Are you saying he’s projecting himself to look bad?

Providing reasons and rationale is what let’s us move beyond personality/meta arguments. I don’t understand this or the following quote.

Didn’t like responses?
What’s you with Responses and Reasoning being alignment indicative?

See above. Your entire “evaluation” of me and Joey seems to be disingenuous posting that you posit supports your vote on me (the counterwagon the PMysterious). You did not come to a conclusion based on the information, rather you looked for information and reasoning to support a pre-determined conclusion. There is a high likelihood that you and PM are partners at this point.

I didn’t even check to see who the top wagon were TBH.
I just voted you based off of the confirmed scum’s ISO.
What makes you scum read PM?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Like full detail.
No simple response.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

@awoo & suji; can you explain your PM read?

From my initial stance on PM, the below spoilered posts have reinforced my scum read. In post 819 and 823, PM's response to me is throwing shade at me trying to paint the Titus wagon as a bad wagon, and highlight the Norwegianboy wagon (same amount of votes, don't force people) as a viable alternative. Post 895 is basically PM saying they are okay with whatever and don't really have a stance (I'm fine with Titus if the majority want it), despite them asserting I am scum if Titus flips town.

Spoiler:

I'm still here, but nothing much has changed so I don't have much to say. GuiltyLion or pisskop should vote Titus so we can proceed.

I get you were on Titus' wagon, but are you sure they should directly ignore NorwegianboyEE in this case? He's also near the majority number, so saying this makes it seem like you're tunneling onto Titus, despite (at the time until Kop's vote) NorwegianboyEE having the same amount of votes as Titus.

I'm still here, but nothing much has changed so I don't have much to say. GuiltyLion or pisskop should vote Titus so we can proceed.

I get you were on Titus' wagon, but are you sure they should directly ignore NorwegianboyEE in this case? He's also near the majority number, so saying this makes it seem like you're tunneling onto Titus, despite (at the time until Kop's vote) NorwegianboyEE having the same amount of votes as Titus.

I don't understand the intent of this post. I very obviously have Titus as a scum read and NoregianboyEE as a null read. Why would I ask to have my null read lynched over my scum read?

The idea is that you're not giving them a choice. If they scum read Norwegian, let them scum read Norwegian. Saying to vote Titus gives them that lack of choice, crucial in allowing a Town to be that, a town. Maybe they have something that you weren't aware of, and you're tunneling them into a particular lynch.

If they want to vote for Titus, then I'm fine with it, but my heart is saying NorwegianboyEE is scum, so that's where I'll stick.

I'm willing to ask a similar thing. If Titus flips town, then Suji is a likely suspect. If he flips Mafia, then, I don't know what I'll do. I don't think he'll flip Mafia given the circumstances of this day, but if he does, then I'll try to keep an open mind.

I still think Norwegian was the better lynch of the three, but again, I'm fine with a Titus lynch if that's what the majority wants to do.

Ah here it is.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Also to confirm.
You saying that my slot voting you means me and PM are buddies?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

BTW I’ve played so many mafia games I know how Mafia can play and cannot play.
For your PM is scum. I’ll have to argue that Town can easily believe others are scum/town.
I don’t believe his post was alignment indicative, maybe the part where he was saying that “I don’t think he’ll flip Mafia but if he dose” sometimes comes from scum but not always.
This could be a miss Lynch.
Are you voting him because of him no wanting to vote Scum?
Sometimes people don’t Lynch the right person and sometimes they do.
They don’t know who Scum is.
Also as mafia I tend to buss, which makes me think that you believe that bussing him meant you could get a couple of miss lynchs off. But not on my watch kiddo.
I believe you to flip Mafia, and if my assumptions are accurate. Chances are the last scum didn’t vote for Titus.
Meaning we can confirm Town everyone on that wagon.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Also to confirm.
You saying that my slot voting you means me and PM are buddies?

Absolutely not. I did not think that with Creature's initial vote. See my post above. I think that now because "You did not come to a conclusion based on the information, rather you looked for information and reasoning to support a pre-determined conclusion. There is a high likelihood that you and PM are partners at this point."

I find it doubtful you didn't know the leading wagons at the time as well as that you only chose me (counterwagon to leading wagon at the time) and one other player to ISO based on one post from Titus. It feels engineered with a purpose.

I decided to ISO him then look at the wagon after I narrowed down Mafia and noticed that the one I suspected was on the wagon.
So because someone changes their vote to you they are auto suspect for Mafia team with PM? Despite us not even knowing if PM will actually flip Mafia or not.
Chances are at this point Mafia has a high chance to buss themselves to actually win the game.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Quick question before I engage further: Do you really think that I am scum reading PM for one post?

Not a post.
But the fact you believe he did something that appeared scummy but with my experience is actually just Null.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Quick question before I engage further: Do you really think that I am scum reading PM for one post?

Not a post.
But the fact you believe he did something that appeared scummy but with my experience is actually just Null.

Then you haven't actually read my reasoning. I'm not going to engage with you futher until others have had a chance to as I don't believe you are engaging to understand my alignment.

I said previously:
I decided to ISO him then look at the wagon after I narrowed down Mafia and noticed that the one I suspected was on the wagon.

So because someone changes their vote to you they are auto suspect for Mafia team with PM? Despite us not even knowing if PM will actually flip Mafia or not.
Chances are at this point Mafia has a high chance to buss themselves to actually win the game.

I feel as if you are frozen and can’t respond the words I highlighted.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

If I use shady logic from 1176 then I am down to;

PM/GL
PM/pk
pk/Creat

After team analyses, I came down to 4 possible team within my poe

PM/GL
PM/pk
PM/Creat
pk/Creat

If PM is town I am pretty much back to square uno

Who is PK and why am I associated with them?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I still stand by my word that 1 of Joey/Sujimichi Is Mafia.

Also PM flipping town, proves my point further.
Pisskop Flipping Mafia also never makes sense here. Why? Because of this sentence made by Titus: “Hey pisskop! If you quit voting scum, they'll townread you!”

^ I don’t think that’s ever a SvS thing to say.
So Joey’s Scum Reads are absolutely fuckin shit.
They are just what he considers “easy miss Lynch”
Mutant also called Pisskop Town before his Lynch.


I also don’t like Awoo TBH.

This was Mutants Reads:
Awoo - Top Scum
Titus
Norwegianboy
Menalque
Correspondence
Pisskop
Dongempire
Creature
PMysterious
Joey_ - Top Town

Though it changed and Awoo became Town Read so I’m not entirely sure.

I don’t know Joey’s meta. But I’m fairly certain he would play the same regardless of alignment

Another funny thing is. Not only did Titus conform the TVS - Joey/Suj
But on Day 1’s first vote count Titus voted for Joey and guess who else voted with Titus? That’s right! The slot Suj replaced into.

On Second Day 1 Vote Count Suj Slot Votes Titus.

Then kept it on them for the rest of the Day 1.

Joey Voted for PM final Day 1 Vote Count.
Heres who voted for the lynched wagon.
-) Pisskop, Titus, Corre, Mena, Awoo, Nor.

Now going on to Day 2.
Funny part is WHAT DO YOU KNOW Suj’s Slot didn’t vote for Titus the first 3 Vote Counts.
Then it takes till 4 until Suj votes Titus.
Although this is actually Null and not scum as the Slot was inactive for awhile and it can go both ways.
Suj could have voted Titus because scummy.
Or Suj could have voted them because Titus requested them to or to keep the same thing going as the Slot they replaced into.
Meanwhile PM, Joey and Titus have their votes on Nor and I don’t think Titus would ever Buss Nor like that.
So that being said.
I’m voting within Joey/Suj. If I can’t I’m voting no Lynch.

Also here’s my Town Core (Never Lynching)
-) Nor, PK and the one of Joey/Suj that isn’t the mafia.

VOTE: No Lynch

Everyone nominated here is Town almost 100%.
Awoo might be Mafia as I said before but I can use a simple PoE to figure it out.
Also I noticed this setup has no mafia night kill.
Meaning as long as we always keep PK and Nor alive. We win the Game.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

VOTE: TrueSoulEnergy

Titus, why did you fail to address my comment on your Correspondence assertion?

Spoiler: I disagree with 697.

Incoherence between ideas/behavior is a clue that their thought process is not genuine & more superficial than they want you to believe. Basically they often have to go "bottom-up"

Town looks incoherent but their processes "does exists" they just aren't very clear, its ''top-down'' so you can always investigate the thought process

@Titus; Why do you scumread nEE?

@Suj Which post? I am under intense stress IRL. I'll comment today.

@Joey, I think GL is more genuine. Nee just sounds like he's trying to lynch not himself and keep his options open on me. GL and I ho way back to my noob days. I feel confident in his ability to see I am town

Ok with this post here
Suj/Joey is a TVS.

Usually Scum, at least when I flip scum in my games, will try and involve their mafia member in a conversation but then distance from another.

So the way that this was setup. I feel like 1 of Suj/Joey was @ed just to add conversation with a mafia member while the other is Town.

@TSE - did you notice that Titus is responding to specifically the two questions asked of her above here?

Still don’t believe that Joey/Suj isn’t T/S.

I also took a look at the slot you replaced into and I don’t like it all that much.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

if this is all town, who's scum? I still think Joey/nEE are town but that leaves Suji/pisskop and I don't know if pisskop goes to bus Suji on D3 in that world

Either You or Awoo would be with Suji/Joey.
So since I can’t no Lynch.
VOTE: Awoo

This is probably going to flip Town because I think mafia put all 3 Town on this wagon.
However the more I think about it.
If Awoo dose flip Town that means You are Scum with Joey/Suji.
Yeah know TBCH.
Awoo/GL and Joey/Suji
^ These are the TVS.
Lynch in that pool.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Pisskop can never be Mafia as I stated before.
Their interaction with Titus prevents it.
And Nor is obvious Town based on Day 2 Lynch.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Are you an alt TSE?

Not on this site.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

What’s your mafia experience like? Where else have you played?

MU, TOS.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Honestly I will be fucked if suji is actually mafia after their interactions w/ titus, from both slots

@Menalque ; If I assure you that I am town, would you be down to let yourself be fearlynched for town purposes? Maybe?

It’s you or Suj.
If Awoo flips Town, is voting Lion as Awoo/Lion is the TVS of that batch.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I will be voting Lion*

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Hi guys haven't really read this day but I know I've been nominated, and I also know that I am probably the best lynch today.

TrueSoulEnergy townslipped in post 1411 and he is never mafia probably I think.
TrueSoulEnergy being confirmed town doesn't make his opinions all infallible, honestly I haven't read any of his posts since I already know his alignment
Suji is outed mafia, lynch him asap. Once he flips red, everyone's win condition in the game (town and mafia) becomes to be the person sitting next to TrueSoulEnergy in the final 2.

Me hammering PM was probably the moment we can point to as where we lost the game if we do end up losing this game, keeping PM alive or discarding him on a lynchpool day was the best move. I finally came around to thinking he was likely town (Based on the same logic joey had and later flipped on) and in a moment of wavering, I hammered him thinking I was putting him at L-1, and also making a conscious decision not to go back and count the votes


All that being said, I am town and getting lynched does not further my win condition. Menalque is also town but I haven't seen his role PM, but at the same time I'm not going to go scumcase him because scumcasing a town is not bueno, so basically the only reason you should keep me alive today is if you think I'm more town then menalque is. Personally I know I am, so that's why my vote will remain here for the whole day.

VOTE: Menalque


bye guys peace out sorry for throwing the game

Yeah pretty sure if we Lynch Lion next day and then Suji the next day we are allowed to vote them, we win.
TBH, It would make sense why Triton decided to put himself on the 3 wagons, cause if his 2 teammates were AFK and needed replacement it could actually benefit mafia.
So Yeah I think we vote Lion and then Suji.
This should always be the Lynched Players.
If Awoo dose flip Mafia some how, then just Lynch Suji for win.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

He chilled out, then called you mafia which started a counterwagon to PM on you which was a good wagon, and I think that wagon had a lot of town on it, really it would make sense at this point to just kill everyone on the PM wagon starting with me tbh

He also voted PM prior to his replace out.

Do you believe that the D1 Nomination phase had 2+ scum in it?

Yo Asshole.
Your the one that was so keen to vote PM.
Joey voted them as well but at least they had a list.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

VC 2.10:

Titus (6)	Menalque 391, NorwegianboyEE 479, Sujimichi 709, pisskop 818, GuiltyLion 882, Awoo 891
NorwegianboyEE (4)	PMysterious, 492, Titus 474, Creature 804, Joey_ 834
GuiltyLion (0)
Not Voting (0)

The coroner did a DNA test on mutantdevle, and found out that Titus had wrongly framed him!

"You murderer!" screamed a friend of mutantdevle. "You're a member of the Mafia!"

"What - what could you be talking about?"

"We have evidence!" they screamed. "Look at this!" They show Titus the gun she used yesterday to kill mutantdevle.

"Wait - wait," she said, "If you spare me I'll tell you who the other mafia are!"

At that moment two simultaneous gunshots rung out from the crowd. Nobody knew who they came from, but Titus dropped dead nonetheless.

Titus was a member of the Mafia!

It is interesting that Lion was.....O SHIT DOUBLE SCUM SLIP!
You can thank your buddy Suji for fuckin up Lion.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

He chilled out, then called you mafia which started a counterwagon to PM on you which was a good wagon, and I think that wagon had a lot of town on it, really it would make sense at this point to just kill everyone on the PM wagon starting with me tbh

He also voted PM prior to his replace out.

Do you believe that the D1 Nomination phase had 2+ scum in it?

^ Saying this last line here.
Scum Slipped.
Here’s why.
Lion, Nor and Titus were in The Wagon.
Titus Hammered
Nor with votes
Lion with no votes

My thought process here is, the fact they mentioned that Makes me have 101% Confidence that they are the scum team.
Also I noticed Suji is using allot of AtE.
Which is usually a scum tell for most Players.
Like -) “I’ll replace out” “oh maybe this wagon is false” “You’ll regret it because I’ll flip Town”

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I wonder if TTS is erratic town or strategic scum

Who’s TTS?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Truesoulenergy seems like town as well.

How so?

Yeah your doing the same thing with me that you did with PM.
It should be obvious that the 3 Lynch option are probably all Town.
Yet you consider to push me.
If I was Mafia, I’d have put you or Joey as a Lynch option.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Either I'm right about suji and I'm getting "nightkilled" for that (more likely)

Why are you so sure about Suji?

TBH. Its Guilty 1 of Lion/Awoo and 1 of Suji/Joey

If I had to guess.
It’s Lion and Suji.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I assure you that I am town & my read on suji is rock solid

Not sure why you town read them at all.
They were never slipped Town by triton.
But Nor and PK was.
So like. Can you not lose this for Town because your too in love with Suji to call then Town? TY.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Scum*

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Yeah re-reading.
Unless Awoo is a risk taker.
Lion and Suji are the mafia here.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I can’t read RN, sry.
I just got banned from TOS and I’m already banned from MU.
Because I lack understanding.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Whatever just Lynch Suji and Lion as they are the last mafia.
I’m usually right about these things 90% of the time.
No one ever follows my wagon because of my bad understament of Grammer and other stuff.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

PK is never Scum here.
Just get Lion and Suji.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

GuiltyLion is Lion

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I’m bad at convincing but good at solving.
Try me.
I thought it may have just been my name in the past 2 sites but apparently not, anyway I’m Seth.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

he's also not votable today, so idk what pk was voting for

It should show you that were both town here.
Lynch Lion tomorrow.
I’d die hasn’t ended try to go for a Suji Lynch.
Then Lynch Joey If game hasn’t ended yet.

PK and Nor should be Lock Town.
As long as they remain alive. Town Wins.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I still think Awoo is a better PL Lynch.
Because chances are this is a 3 Town wagon.
The fact that suji actually thinks I’m Mafia proves he’s mafia.
As if I was Mafia. Suji/Joey would have been a Lynch option.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

ftr i think awoo is statistically more likely to be scum here.

Ok.
VOTE: Vote TrueSoulEnergy

Pk is Town by basic SvT interaction if you look at the damn thing the dead mafia conversated with PK.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Had a crazy thought.
What if Mafia decided to wagon them all Day 2.
Meaning Lion and Nor would be Mafia
Not Lion and Suji.
So furthermore, we always Lynch Lion tomorrow.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Lol I just deepwolfed the hell out of this game it was sick

This is always Town.
Although as I stated before. Everyone on this wagon is Town.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Like the 3 option to choose from.
Are Town.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

VOTE: Awoo
Did you feel a sense of relief there?

Do you remember what Mutant’s reads were?
Because I do.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I mean, again, if I’m right on just two of my reads then the game is borderline auto

So after a pk!redflip I’m not super fussed what order we do things in (like I’d rather do it in order of my scumreads obv but can live without if people strongly think another order is better)

For Fuck Sakes. PK is never Scum here.
Always Lynch Lion.
I refuse to put a loss on this for my record.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Pk, is Joey scum or derp town? The pain meds are fogging me.

He asks PK out of everyone.

Pk, is Joey scum or derp town? The pain meds are fogging me.

That said, my gut is telling me they are town. But right now I'm not listening to it, possibly because my logical conclusion is that the are scum, possibly out of spite.

Hey pisskop! If you quit voting scum, they'll townread you!

I don’t think you ever say this to a buddy

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Yo Asshole.
Your the one that was so keen to vote PM.
Joey voted them as well but at least they had a list.

I'm not sure how that post makes me an asshole or worthy of a direct personal attack, but you do you friend. I'm aware that I was keen on voting PM and pushed it (which is why I said I was wrong a needed to re-evaluate). However, if you look at the context of that post, I was responding directly to the fact that Awoo was stating that Creature started the counterwagon to PM on me. That is true, but Creature also wound up on PM prior to replacing out.

He chilled out, then called you mafia which started a counterwagon to PM on you which was a good wagon, and I think that wagon had a lot of town on it, really it would make sense at this point to just kill everyone on the PM wagon starting with me tbh

He also voted PM prior to his replace out.

Do you believe that the D1 Nomination phase had 2+ scum in it?

^ Saying this last line here.
Scum Slipped.
Here’s why.
Lion, Nor and Titus were in The Wagon.
Titus Hammered
Nor with votes
Lion with no votes

My thought process here is, the fact they mentioned that Makes me have 101% Confidence that they are the scum team.
Also I noticed Suji is using allot of AtE.
Which is usually a scum tell for most Players.
Like -) “I’ll replace out” “oh maybe this wagon is false” “You’ll regret it because I’ll flip Town”

I'm not sure how asking a question is a scum slip, and the above explanation does not make sense to me. Could you try to be a little clearer? Also, could you point to where I have used AtE? I don't believe I've ever said the statements you are attributing to me.

Well what made you mention that question?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

One last time. Are you going to answer my questions to you or not?

I don’t understand stuff unless just the main point is stated.
Anything that is a bunch of jibber jabber throws me off and makes it difficult for me to read correctly.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

First post was not meant to be quoted as a question. My questions in the second post stand. Don't answer a question with a question.

Please clairfy your scumslip statement. Please point to my AtE.

I feel like you mentioned it because of scum slip.
Like I feel as you were hinting to it as you know it’s true, as your scum.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

That is not a clairication. You have not pointed to any AtE. You claim to be experienced and good at this game, but you refuse to answer basic questions or perform any action outside your self-centered point-of-view. If you are town, you are a detriment. If you are scum, I will be happy.

VOTE: TSE

I will not be unvoting.

Calling me bad town?
MK. Funny thing is here’s my traits in mafia.
Miss Lynch bait - Probably
Lead Wagons - Very Rarely if at all
Solve Rate - very good but no one understands me.

I also explain the AtE if you’d read.
Your scum here or really bad town IMO.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

He chilled out, then called you mafia which started a counterwagon to PM on you which was a good wagon, and I think that wagon had a lot of town on it, really it would make sense at this point to just kill everyone on the PM wagon starting with me tbh

He also voted PM prior to his replace out.

Do you believe that the D1 Nomination phase had 2+ scum in it?

^ Saying this last line here.
Scum Slipped.
Here’s why.
Lion, Nor and Titus were in The Wagon.
Titus Hammered
Nor with votes
Lion with no votes

My thought process here is, the fact they mentioned that Makes me have 101% Confidence that they are the scum team.
Also I noticed Suji is using allot of AtE.
Which is usually a scum tell for most Players.
Like -) “I’ll replace out” “oh maybe this wagon is false” “You’ll regret it because I’ll flip Town”

AtE:
Replace Out Claim
I’ll always flip Town so leave me alone

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Man i am starting to tr pk/awoo/tse, all their answers are above average

From my PoE
Scum team is either:
Lion and Nor
Or Lion and Suji

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Also funny enough.
Suji Unvotes me pretty fast despite them being so confident I’d flip scum.
And some how their scum read convinced them then they also throw shade on them as well.
Not a good look for Suji TBH.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Man i am starting to tr pk/awoo/tse, all their answers are above average

I also feel Scum!Joey would never say this.
So I’m fairly confident that my reads are accurate.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I trust PK the most as By evaluation their interaction with Titus was a TVS.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Also funny enough.
Suji Unvotes me pretty fast despite them being so confident I’d flip scum.
And some how their scum read convinced them then they also throw shade on them as well.
Not a good look for Suji TBH.

Gonna point this out before Suji dose.
Yes if I was scum or bad town (I’m good Town though) and reading this I could throw shade on this and call if scummy.
However this isn't alignment indicative. it’s Null.
I saved you a breath Suji. Your Welcome.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Trust me.
Suji would have probably threw shade on the “Not a good look for Suji TBH”
I played mafia long enough to know how people react to things.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

main point against tse!scum is that putting them in with me + awoo is prob dumb as shit because they're probably the most likely lynch going in (although maybe they overestimated how likely people were to vote awoo?)

Sorry but I feel with the way your speaking I don’t really like it.
To me I just don’t like the way it’s all being shaded.
I also stated that I’d have put Suji it Joey on the top wagons.
I presume your saying if I’m scum and still believe it’s an all 3 Town Choice.
Not sure if Scum!Menalque would make this the 3 Choices. But this is the first time I played with you so.
Only reason I choose to Lynch Awoo over you is the fact I feel you can solve better and not be miss Lynch bait.
However, I’m still uncertain if your actual town or just scum puppeting Joey.
Lastly I want to ask you a question and I want your honest answer.
What’s your read on Lion? And why is that what you came to?
TBH if I started this game Day 1. I could have used the 0-10 Method that works like a charm.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

AtE:
Replace Out Claim
I’ll always flip Town so leave me alone

I didn't say explain. I said show me where I said that. Show me the posts.

Just re-read your ISO.
I couldn’t really find any.
Thought I seen you mention something like “I’ll flip Town”
But I can’t find it.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

VOTE: TSE

kinda wanna move on from this so we can lynch pk and win

Please Re-Evaluate tomorrow then.
I’m Town and so is PK.
Please just Lynch Lion.
They are going to flip Mafia. Trust me on this.
I was right about PM wasn’t I?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Tomorrow we do vca and Lynch the lunchboxes that are trying to railroad lynches

No, silly pisskop, tomorrow we’re lynching you

If you fuckin do that and we lose.
I’ll send you pictures in PM’s that you don’t want to see.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

joey, plz place a vote

This is actually a fair point, but on TSE pls

Don’t do this.
Joey, Menalque is puppeting you.
Town or not.
This guy is just going with your PK/TSE Scum Read from Day 3.
If your smart about this Joey we Lynch Awoo so they don’t get miss lynched later and we push Lion tomorrow.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

VOTE: TSE

You seemed to not hesitate all on that one.
You also claimed you were going to re-evaluate but failed to do so

[TrueSoulEnergy]

VOTE: TSE

You seemed to not hesitate all on that one.
You also claimed you were going to re-evaluate but failed to do so

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Damn it, I double posted.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

awoo is voting TSE and just said ' when tse flips town'.

hmmmm

TBH Town is playing bad.
You and Joey are the only Town that doesn’t lack a brain.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I feel like the POE (after tse) is { pisskop, GL } > { suji } > { norwegian }

TBH I don’t know why Town just doesn’t Lynch Lion tomorrow.
Lion’s buddy’s is exactly 1 of Nor/Suji.
Using basic PoE.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

@Awoo
Before you told Suji that you’d rather be lynched over me.
So did you decide to change your mind?
If so, why?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

TBH I just didn’t like the way Suji was and his interaction with Titus since the start of replacing in.
Lion/Awoo I determined was a TVS. I’m fairly certain Awoo is the Town though.
I also still think it’s possible mafia put all of them up Day 2.
Making the scum team Lion/Nor instead of Lion/Suji.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I also noticed in the description that Mafia has Day Chat.
So maybe @Someone
Could ISO the alive players to see if anyone may have slipped and typed in this chat instead of their mafia chat.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Just because you’re being lynched that doesn’t amount to town being brainless

You’ve given reasons for why you think pk is town, and I’ve said why I don’t think they’re valid

You’ve been claiming great reads but I don’t really see evidence of that or why I should believe it over my own reads. I also don’t like this because I’ve done this as scum (I.e. point to my good reads to try and make people sheep me) very recently (micro 892, or maybe 893, can’t remember the number)

And like you’re not really engaging with people. You’re just shouting at us for being bad for wanting to lynch you despite there being good reason to believe both awoo and I are town (the titus lynch on D2 — I think I’ve been obvtowning hard p much ever since and awoo was crucial enough in that that I’m willing to let the doubts go for now vs other slots)

If you’re town then accept that there are good reasons to lynch you > awoo, me from town!pov and focus on giving us the rest of your breakdown. What if you’re wrong on pk? What if you’re wrong on GL? Where do you think we should look in either/both of those cases?

1) I replaced into a slot so the “your least likely town out of us because of the past” is not a good reason IMO.
2) if somehow PK flips Mafia, which they never will. But if they do. The team is still Suji with them.
3) If Lion flips Town then by using PoE it’s You or Awoo with Suji.

As if Lion isn’t Mafia, Neither is Nor.
Where if Nor flips Town, Lion could still be Mafia.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Here’s my Suggestion.
Never Lynch Joey.
Lynch Awoo today.
Lynch Lion Tomorrow.
If Lion Flips Red Lynch either Nor or Suji
If Lion flips Green, Never Ever Lynch Nor, Suji and Menalque would be the last mafia.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Lynching Lion benefits Town so much.
That even if they get miss lynched, Nor is Lock Town by basic PoE.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Or why is it not a good reason, as that was your phrasing

Well I never actually read his content myself TBH. Lol.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

What I can say is his vote on PM was absolute shit.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

awoo is voting TSE and just said ' when tse flips town'.

hmmmm

Imagine this:

You're town. You're going to get mislynched tomorrow, so you're putting in lots of effort to try to prevent that from happening. You're reading. You're analyzing. You're interacting.
And then you post this.

That just doesn't line up.

TF are you talking about.
They posted this because they thought your post was scummy.
What they did isn’t alignment indicative.
You are just shading them randomly.
Although for PK. I think he knows both Me, Him and the other guy is all Town but wants me lynched.
Yet was willing to Lynch himself over me during the beginning of the day.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Like wow, you are pushing town's agenda by sitting back and shading someone who is not going to get lynched today because unless guiltylion who has been defending me all day randomly does a 180 at the last second, the vote is always 5 to 3 at the very worst.

Also the fact that this joker unironically felt the need to make TWO (2) posts defending the fact that he posts in lowercase letters to defend himself from the me, and I'm just obvious mafia from his POV yet he goes and needs to defend his posting style from my offhand sarcastic comment.

YOU FEEL THE PRESSURE YET? IT'S REALLY BUILDING. YOU BETTER START POSTING IN CAPS LOCK BECAUSE IM COMING AFTER YOUR SMALL TEXT, LOWERCASEBOY

I am no longer town reading you. Not saying your scum either your just bad.
Not only dose PK’s Interaction with Titus make no sense. Most Players seems to keen on making the lynches always Me then PK.

In order for Town to win this:
Lynch Awoo today so he doesn’t fuck it up for Town.
Lynch Lion Tomorrow. If Flips Town we can safely Lock Nor as Town.
If Lion is Mafia, the other is Suji or the other Guy.

Alternatively here’s how Town auto wins by Lynching Lion.
F3 - Joey and Nor (Lion Town)
F3 - Joey and PK (Lion Mafia)
^ with this here.
It’s auto win as we would have 2 lock town in final 3 players.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I'm not afraid of pisskop, but I'm afraid of his lawyers.

If your town and I get lynched today
Actually use your brain and realize Lion is best Lynch over PK.
TY.
Because if PK is Lynched and flips Town and then Lion is Lynched and Flips Mafia.
THERE IS NO TWO LOCK TOWN.
Which is very bad.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I agree with you that Lion is a good lynch, and I'm going to attempt to engage with you here

What do you think about lynching Lion --> Pisskop?

?
Look Up.
I said that we should always Lynch Lion first and PK Last but only if Lion flips Town.
If Lion is Mafia, PK is never Mafia.
If we were to Lynch PK first I believe Town auto loses.
Because it will be a 50/50 chance with Nor/Suji as their partner.
And if Joey chooses Wrong. We Lose.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

you keep insisting that pk and Titus don't make sense as interacting scum buddies but you don't say why

I did I had the quote about it.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Read my ISO and you’ll find the quote about it.
Actually NM I’ll do it.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Pk, is Joey scum or derp town? The pain meds are fogging me.

He asks PK out of everyone.

Pk, is Joey scum or derp town? The pain meds are fogging me.

That said, my gut is telling me they are town. But right now I'm not listening to it, possibly because my logical conclusion is that the are scum, possibly out of spite.

Hey pisskop! If you quit voting scum, they'll townread you!

I don’t think you ever say this to a buddy

Here it is.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

the important thing here is not to lose focus

we lynch tse today

we lynch pk tomorrow

ideally, that's the end of the game, but failing that we reevaluate and talk things out. if we get one more scum flip, we stick to the plan which I think almost everyone has signed off on which is lynch through PoE up until it's me and joey left at which point we vote whoever the final scum is with us who made it that far

WERE YOU NOT FUCKIN LISTENING TO ME!!!??

Don’t fuck this up for Town here.
LION BEING LYNCHED HELPS TOWN

REGARDLESS OF ALIGNMENT

Lion Flips Red (-) Suji or Nor is their buddy. PK is confirmed Town.
Lion Flips Green (-) Nor is Confirmed Town.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

You also realize Mena that if Scum have majority they win.
Regardless of you and Joey.
Your plan only works if 1 Scum remains.
But their is still 2 at large.

Do you care to win or not?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

you keep insisting that pk and Titus don't make sense as interacting scum buddies but you don't say why

I did I had the quote about it.

Okay, let me rephrase: you have not given a reason but you haven't given any reason for why we should find that compelling beyond "I don't think scum ever interacts like this"

The Vote is way too simple.
It legit looks like a ML.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

yeah, which is why the plan is lynch you then lynch pk

like, shouting about it isn't really doing shit to change that

if you want to try and sell pk as town for tomorrow give me a reason beyond "I don't think these interactions come from scum"

at a bare minimum, you need to explain why those interactions don't come from scum

in that particular context

Listen. Here’s a reason.
PK flipping Town won’t give us any information.
Then flipping mafia still is a question of who is their buddy.
But with Lion.
Them flipping Town makes Nor Confirmed Town as Mafia would only put 1 or all their members on the 3 Options.
Then flipping mafia means the last mafia is within Nor/Suji

[TrueSoulEnergy]

you keep insisting that pk and Titus don't make sense as interacting scum buddies but you don't say why

I did I had the quote about it.

Okay, let me rephrase: you have not given a reason but you haven't given any reason for why we should find that compelling beyond "I don't think scum ever interacts like this"

The Vote is way too simple.
It legit looks like a ML.

what do you mean? which vote is way too simple?

PK has much more of a ML Look within the ISO.
Also I feel Scum PK would attempt to puppet more.
Yet they are not.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I really hope TSE has perfect reads so he can come back postgame and hit us with that righteous indignation

If we lose because Lion wasn’t lynched.
Ima PL Mena every game I play with Him

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I really hope TSE has perfect reads so he can come back postgame and hit us with that righteous indignation

that would be hilarious tbf although my favourite thing for lolz would be if you're scum here and so is joey

I deep read Joey.
He has points/posts that Scum!Joey I don’t think would make.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Okay counterpoint: I already don't think norwegianboy is mafia.

Why do I need to flip guiltylion to confirm that?

Mafia could have pulled the “let’s all wagon ourselves Day 2” play.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

yeah, which is why the plan is lynch you then lynch pk

like, shouting about it isn't really doing shit to change that

if you want to try and sell pk as town for tomorrow give me a reason beyond "I don't think these interactions come from scum"

at a bare minimum, you need to explain why those interactions don't come from scum

in that particular context

Listen. Here’s a reason.
PK flipping Town won’t give us any information.
Then flipping mafia still is a question of who is their buddy.
But with Lion.
Them flipping Town makes Nor Confirmed Town as Mafia would only put 1 or all their members on the 3 Options.
Then flipping mafia means the last mafia is within Nor/Suji

I think pk gives us information. for instance, other people think Suji's scum equity drops significantly with a pk red flip. I haven't fully considered that yet myself because it's getting ahead, but I'll consider it at the time. Also, again, this doesn't particularly matter. So long as joey is town, and the other townies in the game believe that he and I are both town, it's literally a won game after one more flip. we may bicker about the order, but we can keep lynching scum all the way to lylo and then win.

I also disagree with your logic around Lion. Why wouldn't mafia put 2 members in? This just all seems like WIFOM speculation. I don't wanna lynch based on do I think mafia put 1, 2, or 3 people in, I wanna lynch based off play.

Them flipping mafia gives us the exact same plan that I outlined as pk flipping mafia. I don't see any reason why they can't be partners, and I'm happier on pk being scum than I am on GL, so I prefer going pk first.

If I am wrong on pk, then we'll have to see what the lynchpool is like on D6, but I still have quite a lot of faith in joey and I to be able to narrow down the pool on D7 even if there are 2 mafia left then, and also that would give us 40% raw odds of hitting scum.

Are you still delusional.
You and Joey are 2
There are 2 mafia left
Mafia will reach majority and you’ll lose.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Okay counterpoint: I already don't think norwegianboy is mafia.

Why do I need to flip guiltylion to confirm that?

Mafia could have pulled the “let’s all wagon ourselves Day 2” play.

yes, they may have, or they may have put two in, or they may have put one in

it's bad logic to assume that it must be either 1 or 3

Nor and Titus’s Conflict determines TVS or SvSvS.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

@Mena
There’s a difference between Scum and Terrible Town Play.
Learn It.
Don’t vote Bad Town, Vote Scum.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

(1) pk
(2) TSE
(3) kp
(4) EST
(5)ESTkp

That’s stupid.
Don’t know if your joking or you actually think me and Awoo were the only 2 voting for Awoo.
Look at Nor.
Look at Joey. (They were trying to figure shit out not vote)

The fact you make a terrible joke out of this isn’t necessary and just morally wrong.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Melan, you voting?
Awoo, you voting?

Let's stop going around the pissing pot and start ending the day. We're breeding apathy now.

Can you try not to get Miss Lynched?
Can you try and make

NON

terrible plays.
K Thx.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

At this point.
I don’t know if I trust Mena or not.
At this point.
I need a Lion Lynched so I can solve this game.
However, At this point and time.
Awoo should be lynched as they could hurt Town in the long run. (Their Playstyle is similar to PK)
I refuse to Lynch bad Town when we don’t have to.
Every option of us 3 are probably town.
Awoo is the best Lynch for PL reasons.
As we have no choice and have to Lynch town.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

big oof


joey, make a vote

Not going to explain why Awoo is the better vote?
Not going to say why I’m a bigger asset?
Not going to help prevent your miss Lynch?

TF is wrong with you.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Only time you ever Lynch PK is on Even Days.
On Odd Days we Lynch actual scum.
Lynch Lion Tomorrow then Lynch PK.
Lynch Lion when you have a chance to.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

@Mena
You should Lynch Lion tomorrow as PK is weak town.
PK can be solved later on.
PK can be lynched on an even day when you need to sacrifice a town.
Today. Sacrifice Awoo.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Or both ways, I lynch TSE but you lynch GL

^ This I’d prefer but I don’t think he’d be willing to do it.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Brokering is bad for business because it leads to compromise lynches and it allows scum to play on wifom.

PK is bad town but never Scum with a Lion Mafia Flip.
If Lion Flips Town. By all means we Lynch PK.
But if they flip Mafia. I’m lynching within Suji/Nor

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Lets just focus on the best lynch for today. We should not be brokering votes.

you wont vote tse because you feel they are obvious town. So you vote awoo instead.
tomorrow why dont you vote for your most suspicious player instead of trying to broker votes onto suboptimal lynches.

Brokering is bad for business because it leads to compromise lynches and it allows scum to play on wifom.

I can be wrong on you and some part of me thinks I could never be truly certain of your alignement, which is a bit anxiogenic. So removing my responsibility of reading you by exchanging votes also answer to that

TBH players like PK and Awoo I consider sacrifices, to help solve the game later down the road.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Only Sacrifice when you have to though.
Odd Days is our chance to push actual scum.
Not a Weak Town that could be Scum.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

PK is bad town but never Scum with a Lion Mafia Flip.

after the game ends i think you need to do some reflection about your choice of words and actions you took today.

Which Part? LMAO. XD

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Yikes joey

You want someone who's able to solve or someone who's able to spam? Its your choice my dude.

I’ve been solving.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Still remember the Suji and Awoo Interaction too.

Suji asks if he’d vote TSE (Me) over himself (Awoo)
Awoo responded that he’d rather be lynched.
But when he was actually getting pushed he decided he didn’t want to be lynched.
So Awoo. Why were you ok with it before but not now?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I'm also holding onto some concern about joey, so if I could get a nice townread on one of the common suspects that would be an epic gamer moment.

Non-ironically, him implying he might believes I am mafia is a move I doubt mafia would make considering I am basically the swing vote (w/ GL)

Yeah I did think your were mafia until I Deep Read you.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Like my original though was You/Suji

But I keep going back to that Titus Lynch.
Then try and pin point where his buddies were.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I mean, I win no matter what you do, suji.

If you lynch Truesoul and he flips green, it lends credence to his claim about me.
If you lynch Truesoul and he flips red, all he did was spend his own more valuable life to get a townie killed.
If you lynch elsewhere, that means I've already influenced y,u enough.

Win/Win/Win

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Oh LOL.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

awoo, you flipping pink or purple doesnt affect me as much as you think


we all mostly agree that all three picks are likely town. its a matter of whom to murder.

tomorrow it will be another battle of wills between melan and I. If we can agree to kill guilty or suji i feel we can make progress. thats my solve guess as of now.

awoo, you flipping pink or purple doesnt affect me as much as you think


we all mostly agree that all three picks are likely town. its a matter of whom to murder.

Ey, finally a decent post.

awoo, you flipping pink or purple doesnt affect me as much as you think


we all mostly agree that all three picks are likely town. its a matter of whom to murder.

tomorrow it will be another battle of wills between melan and I. If we can agree to kill guilty or suji i feel we can make progress. thats my solve guess as of now.

What’s your opinion on All Mafia as Day 2 Wagon Options. (Titus, Lion and Nor)

[TrueSoulEnergy]

@Awoo
You Still haven’t answered why you changed your mind.
You were willing to get lynched over me in the beginning.
So why did it change now?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

UNVOTE: I am pretty much certain both awoo and TSE are town, i think we should take the day and try to find mafia outside. Who down?

Exactly.
Also why I am saying that Lion Lynch could make this game 10X more easy to solve.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

@Awoo
You Still haven’t answered why you changed your mind.
You were willing to get lynched over me in the beginning.
So why did it change now?

I thought you townslipped. Then I learned you didn't. I think you're town. Now it's a matter of pride.

Wouldn’t it have always been about pride though?
I mean if you knew I was Town and you knew this was an all town option.
You still decided to not want to Lynch me.
It wasn’t until people didn’t believe I was Town and wasn’t buying the Town slip, that you decided it was ok to vote me.
Suji is Scum or like really bad town.
@Suji you should know by now and if it doesn’t take an Einstein to realize this is an all Town Lynch options
The fact your super sure I’m Scum is just LOL.
You thought PM was scum and vote them.
I told you they weren’t but of course I was on you and their was no higher wagon then the two of you. But still.
You should realize that I’d have never put myself as a Lynch option as Scum without you on the option with me.
The fact that you are playing this anti Town makes me Lynch You Over Nor (Assuming Lion Flips Mafia Tomorrow)

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Uh, you don't have the option to lynch me over Nor tomorrow if one of us is dead.

Notice the @Suji

:/

[TrueSoulEnergy]

@TSE Reading your posts is not easy okay :/
--
Awoo Joey TSE Menalque all town but thats only half the game and one is dying today.

Norwegian has lurked and coasted ever since he got nominated, but is most likely to be town out of this bunch due to interactions with titus and friends. After 1 scum flips he gets dragged to the end while we lynch the third of the guys below.

pisskop has increased in quality but at the same time he was being pressured like menalque said. When I say quality I mean his actions are a little nonsensical for a mafia but that's probably what he would try to do as mafia so whatever, man.
GL like I said does a lot of interacting and asking questions and little observations and I can't name off the top of my head what he thinks of the game easily.
Suji wasn't nominated, avoids conflict, and has convenient reads. Also appears high in some people's readslists (GL)


Suji / GL have been townreading eachother, playing nonconfrontational, having consensus reads, and more or less sitting back and I think if we lynch them back to back that's always 1 (or 2) scum dead, because joey = town and awoo = town and if you want to live in clown world, pisskop and menalque as mafia partners don't go at each other's throats today for no reason with the hopes that I will suddenly come to this conclusion so basically killing Suji and GL back to back always kills a mafia, so we don't lose to anyone in F5 LYLO.

F8 TSE dies --> F7 lynch suji/GL -> F6 Awoo dies unless sth crazy happens --> F5 lynch suji/GL --> F4 lynch norway < pisskop --> F3 lynch survivor of norway/pisskop

Hopefully Mena realizes that Lion is the best Lynch for tomorrow.
Reason I want to live over you.
Is because I don’t know how good Scum is at manipulating and I usually never get manipulated, I usually get miss lynched or end up manipulating myself.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

if this is all town, who's scum? I still think Joey/nEE are town but that leaves Suji/pisskop and I don't know if pisskop goes to bus Suji on D3 in that world

also notice how Lion doesn’t mention Nor.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I think this game wouldve gone better for town if ppl stopped reacting to "testing the water" scumreads, and if both the ppl making that read and being made that read on realized it

Correct, This game would have been better if I could figure out how to lead in FM.
Then I’d win every game.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Wobbafett.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

The reason was I didn't hear back from GL so I promptly forgot about it...

I mean you guys didn't say anything controversial in there so I guess it's fine anyway

Donut.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Nor said this: TrueSoulEnergy is our number #1 enemy right now. So we need to make sure he dies and then somehow discredit his entire theory about us or we're screwed.
My response: TBH, that’s what I would have done as scum so I was like “if I could do that play so could anyone else”
So that’s why I suspected it a major possibility.