Mini Normal 2148 (Post Game)

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Vote for mala, vote for not_mafia. I can't decide which wagon I want to join! Guess Im gonna sheep farside, plain and simple.

VOTE: mala

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Oh if you dont like buddying youre gonna hate me

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Town or scum im enjoying hk-50 commitment for posting style.

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Why? I don't think it really is going to change how we read him.

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Its how I play its not gonna change

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Get it out of your systems early boys bc I’m town

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You can’t just tell me not to do something and then expect me not to do that thing

Besides that wasn’t really a game relevant topic so I’m not really sure why it matters I agreed with it

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Ideal world=/=the real world

I agree with farside's above post

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Am I the only one who doesnt mind people having the same video game knowledge for pretty popular video games in a billion dollar franchise?

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Why do people keep telling me not to do things?

You’re just lucky I don’t remember enough games to meta.

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I’m not voting you yet mala but I’m worried my fears are true

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I don’t think she’s scummy for that I don’t like her 64 but I’m still reacquainting myself

I also just realized I told her I’m not voting her yet but my rvs is still on her and feel dumb

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It just seems too flippant for this early in the game. Over the top.

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I don’t really get the farside scumread either because I’ve been agreeing with every one of her posts

But no seriously I think her mala read makes decent sense especially given the info available thus far

Pedit-

Eh. Seemed over the top to me, but as I said I’m still getting reacquainted and it’s why I’m not pushing it besides my first comment and your questions.

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It’s an rvs read it doesn’t have to be a damning case lol

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Stop telling me what it doesn't have to be

Welcome to the real world

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I don’t think we’re likely to agree on this so I’m just gonna agree to disagree

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For the record I didn’t get the reference until votato explained it but as I said in my iso it’s a billion dollar franchise it’s not a surprise some people know it

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GC for my curiosity how much have you played recently

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I don’t think she’s scummy for that I don’t like her 64 but I’m still reacquainting myself

I also just realized I told her I’m not voting her yet but my rvs is still on her and feel dumb

Ns, this feels so noncommittal and I'm not a fan right now

You’re a towel

I didn’t think wagoning mala would be fruitful at this point in time and wanted to let it develop

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My restaurant opens today I won’t be around until tomorrow most likely

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UNVOTE:

I too like bitching about people being useless while I quote the only part of the post that was a joke and being useless myself

I wasn’t even tunneling

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@n_m

You’re a towel

@gc

I’m a manager- new company I joined a month ago and I’ve never opened a location before

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I’m alive

Mala who’s scum

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That second questions open to DP and farside too before I effort and read those wall posts from bob and bot

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Why?

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I will be in and out today we just got invited to brunch so getting ready

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“Lynch me daddy”

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You didn’t say why you voted me did you miltank

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I’m giving mala space bc I’m nice and also a wee bit drunk

There’s more than one way to skin a huma- a ca- an animal

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Miltabk I don’t remember you being this cryptic

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So we moved from video game debate to vernacular debate

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It’s the people in this game I’m used to ask any of them

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Post # /post

But with [] around them

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It’s the people in this game I’m used to ask any of them

[Statement:]

My mistake then. Can you please answer what the purpose was to giving Mala space then rather than push them further?

Because I didn’t remember it til she said it but I feel like she’s right that I always early tunnel and if she is town it’s easier to work with her when I don’t spend half the game trying to lunch her

And everyone slips when pressured not just scum

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Farside I’m honestly not engaged we went to hang with my work friends in the city and have been drinking since 2p and I haven’t sufficiently efforts but I wanna feel Involved

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Hi friend I will vote when I am sober enough to Lynch some ecumfucks bc idk if you’ve tried but it’s hard to figure out ulterior motives while drunk but I’m good for it I promise or farside mala and dp will Lynch tf out of me

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And no I’m not scum but I know you guys would it I start doing that scum thing where I promise a readslust that never comes

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It might be tomorrow but I will

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Maybe you are scum

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Would you? And if you can tell me the other two people in your role pm thatd save me a lot of work

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That's cool. Man the guide lines and the social standards are going to be a pain in the ass for a few months. I haven't even been called to come back to work and my place has been open a month now. They had some people come back so far, but not all.

When you go back be very careful with the table cleaning water the CDC recommends weve lost multiple uniforms so far to it! Otherwise its not really too difficult you just have to keep the tables separate and the whole mask thing.

Yeah, I'm glad there are a few people here I've played with so my day1ness wont be too much of a problem

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[Declaration:]

Townlean on the sentinent green crayons.

Why?

Hm. I really did just like HK 137. But I want to see how that progresses

2nded

Bob reads well so far. It's still early but nothing jumps out as bad. I think HK is just proding people. I find one question a bit non-sense so far but to each there own.

Is it bad I see their back and forth as tvt

I have more town pings than scum pings. {HK, bob}

Maybe you are town

I'll catch up later, but for now:

VOTE: HK 50 - biggest wagon and he appears to have a horrible post restriction and needs to be put out of his misery.

[Definition:]

Efficiency: the ratio of the useful work performed by a machine or in a process to the total energy expended or heat taken in.

Known antonyms: Master Battle Mage

I have no read off this but I feel like yall need to read it again because its hilarious

VOTE: Battle Mage

Not a bad vote. Someone's living up to their name.

Itd be a lot nicer if hed give reasons for his votes

bob's posts look like scum trying to effort. (shrug)

I can kinda see it but I think it just sounded town?

[Rebuttal:]

Space to do what exactly? You asked a similar question to Masters Doctorpepper and Farside right afterwards which indicated to my sensors it was directed towards townish people in your perspective. Or is this wrong?

[Accusation:]

During the Farside vs Malakitten interaction, you simultaneously supported farside read while also pleading the case that somebody not knowing the reference is NAI. I would have no issue with this had you committed to something like: "Master Farside push was good for the info at the time, but ultimately I find the points raised to be NAI".

In short, I see you as someone who is fencesitting. Your actions seemed planned to respond to whatever the threads focus was at the time. When master Malakitten was being pushed, you voiced suspicion in post 70 and 74 fueling it. When the pressure waned and was redirected to Dunnstral/farside, you casually begin to treat master malakitten as town tonally.

Just circling back in case you missed my reply- its the people im used to. I agreed with her comment but not that it made her scum- my scumread was from malas reaction to the push, which iirc someone said is prob just town frustration at being pushed over stupid shit which made a lot of stuff. I get it seems fencesitty but until Ive got scum in my sights i sit back and chitchat with my usual suspects to help me get my footing

OK, I'm halfway through the pages. Making progress!

Would like to know how many scum are typically in a 13 player game though? 2? 3? Or 4? I am guessing 3, but not sure.

I am assuming 3

Id just like everyone to note this was a 7 min reply which means hes actively reading the thread just doing nothing

VOTE: Geraintm

Absolutely nothing in their ISO thus far points to scumhunting, and I do not like that. Especially paired together with their commitment to stalling that they admitted to in 108 by saying "you all do you, i'm going to wait until things become more clear."

That does not settle right with me at all.

goodvotes

this dude is town

I have nothing at the moment. day 1 people talk but it doesn't mean anything. votes are the important thing and there just haven't been many so far. I'm very much the type of person who looks at people's voting patterns and trying to either spot inconsistencies or really, really bad logic used to justify them

when I say you all do you, it is just me saying I don't have the mental capacity to argue over perceived slights, misunderstandings or whatever

@mala- is this true or false

VOTE: Vot.

Mala, hold on. This slot is quite empty. Hasn't posted since day 1 irl. Why the vote here?

nah its prob a good vote

Votato is typically posting more by this point in the game. So i don't mind the vote from mala.

You're town too??? wow.

DP it doesnt look good for you 3/4 of us are already town you best town it up soon before the probabilities getcha

VOTE: Votato

Looks like an all green wagon there lets get this sucker moving

Mala
Bob
Robot
Farside
Stun

GC?

BM
DP
NM
Dunn

gera

votato

[notscience]

Idk are you like an ic or something that’d make my life real easy

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<3 notsci

Hm.

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You’re a bad vote explain it or can it

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Play is putting it loosely but fine

Choo choo

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I’m townreading the whole wagon, who do you think is scum on it?

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I think he’s hilarious

Pedit

No comment

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God damnit farside I’m town

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Games over

I spent two game days

Basically a goddamn month

Watching votato lurk to a scum win

My votes not lazy.

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The game I’m referring to is 2137 stun gun

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I dislike the above post even though I agree with everything farside says

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It’s apparently par for the course for him so

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I already asked mala in my catchup and she said it was true

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You know who said that farside?

Me

When he was very clearly actively reading the thread and replied 7 min after a question but hasn’t done anything

But I’m not giving reasons right

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I’m being catty and that’s Malas job I’m sorry

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Ok buddy

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For literally what we’ve said in thread

I sat watching this man lurk his way to a scum victory and he enters the game lurking and I’m not supposed to think he’s scum for it???? I just couldn’t say anything until a few hours ago bc ongoing game rules are a thing

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Yeah he’s posting now and I will say it feels a tad more organic but given the differences between the games thus far I’m not comfortable moving my vote

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Which part in particular? How he’d lurk more under pressure? I think it would look more suspicious to keep lurking. Like I said he overall sounds more organic and not artificial. There I kinda Poe’s him but tone was never there is why. I never called him town

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11th quote down

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I only did it in one bc it was a catchup.

It was just something that stuck out to me.

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I think I have before my hiatus. Sounded like farside has recent experience.

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Uhhhh

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Because NM said so and he’s a paragon of transparency!!!

I also don’t think votato is a vi

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VOTE: dunn

I’m getting cold feet

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Notscience is town as shit

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vla til Sunday- will try to be as active as possible but I’m working a long ass week until they assign real shifts

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proxy vote to mala

Don’t let them do dumb shit while I’m away tia

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Someone give me the short version of why we’re voting gc I was leaning town there

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I’m townreading the whole wagon, who do you think is scum on it?

If you were town reading the entire vot wagon. Then why so quick to jump onto dun?

If vot inst scum then why do you think dun if he was scum would have tried to jump on the back of the vot wagon. And why do you think scum wouldn't try to jump onto a wagon you feel is rather towny?

I got cold feet bc like I said he wasn’t able to fake tone in my experience with him and I like his tone here

Can you rephrase this because I’m super confused. I literally jumped there bc peer pressure and I got cold feet

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Stun I’m like 73% sure everything you listed is just how most oldies play and not really as alignment indicative as you think

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Both of you stop tvting I don’t feel like reading walls of arguments tia

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Stun I’m like 73% sure everything you listed is just how most oldies play and not really as alignment indicative as you think

I don't think that's true... I'm fairly convinced GC is scum and on D1 when I get that feeling it usually is right, although there are expections.

Why do you trust GC?

Because I’m 81% sure I’ve been you at this exact moment regarding long term players and i was wrong

I don’t trust him but I think your case re him is just how he’s going to be regardless of alignment

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I’m like the king of tvting so I know a thing or two

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The game with votato I tried to replace in late d1- was lolhammered before I officially replaced in. D2 lolhammered in 6 hours. Both on town by town.

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Copycat

I told you I was serious and why I was doing it if you don’t believe me ask votato

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Literally until klick came in I was dragging towns lifeless body behind me and I’m now traumatized

I also figure if you’re scum you’d be too paranoid of me reactio texting you to abuse it

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Robot what’s your thoughts on gc/stun

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Why is there still an rvs cote 10 days in is a good question

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I’m obv town get it right

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I’m town

Hk is hilarious

Mala has my vote

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I feel like my read on NS should change......I know that sounds odd, but i just finished a game where a player says all the things that sound right but still that weird ringing sound is in the back of your head saying. NO DON'T BUY IT!!

I’m town as fuck farside

I’m sorry that’s the only thing I can say atm! I’ll weigh in soon

It’s been 24 hours since clidd said he’d give reads btw

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Why did the robot stop being funny I miss funnybot? I think towns more likely to drop the shtick than scum tho

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So far, I feel good in asserting these players as more likely town than not: Not Science, farside, Dr. Pepper, Mala
Gut is also leaning town with Bob.

That means I think in all likelihood all scum have to be in this group of 7 players {NM, geraintm, GC, HK, Dunnstral, votato, BM}

Catching up a bit more accurately and it’s weird the whole gang is in these town leans but idk if it’s gamblers fallacy or what

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why is notsci so town?

How you saw me is me having to herd the town my non vla play here is more accurate for how I’m normally I don’t normally have to take an assertive role Until I’m comfy

Although it was fun to be assertive like that maybe I should try it more. Maybe when I get back

Pedit

I’m assuming it’s because you think they’re all the team or something

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I will say one thing I disagreed with and the tone of GC is normal for that type of player.

Pls clarify is this agreeing with my stance or disagreeing I’m confused what you’re trying to say

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I get it, I do. I want to be better at day 1s, and pester me by all means on my thoughts, and i'll do my best to give them

Why should we have to pester you if you want to improve your day one reads as town you should actively be doing it and not needing pestering but it makes sense if you’re scum and only want to do things to look better

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I don't have this same level of confidence going for other available lynches, like Dunn for example. That said, Dunn could very well be scum, but since he's posted such little content I have found him to be a frustratingly tough player to sort.

He’s had more stances than not mafia, do you have a read on the latter

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I’m caught up

Stun gun is very wordy and I think it’s weird he asked the robot to be less though but I’m not sure it’s AI or not but man that guy can type some long posts

Mala why is my read progression re you town if you said yourself you expected to be tunneled all game

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You say potato I say dirt apple

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I’m not sure how I feel about the Dunn wagon but I feel like I remember himself getting in this situation repeatedly before as both alignments so figured it must be a rite of passage

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I’m flip flopping on voteto

I think mala town
Far town
Stun town
Gc town
Robot town

I’m nulltown reading bm?
Idk about dp

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Beetle juice

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Why aren’t you funny anymore

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Hi I’m an expert on stupid waste of time tvting and also in beetlejuicing. I’m doing some Father’s Day stuff with my family and my girlfriends family will be around later tonight.

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Also a look at his profile says clidd has t been on site since his post so I’m not really sure it’s scummy.

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Yeah, he hasn't posted, but he has his last visited hidden so we can't tell that for sure. Votato, OTOH, clearly has been on since I called him out on Friday (multiple times in fact as you can see on his profile). What do you make of that?

I don’t think two slots claiming helps

I kinda think it makes him more town if he says he prefers scum? Idk I don’t have a ton of time to think about it atm.

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mod can we get deadline frozen while we wait for replacements please

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sup fuckers im back ONCE A MO FUCKIN GAIN

Mala WYA lets sort this shit out

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What is farside not acting in good faith on

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I thought that was saying we needed replacements im dumb apologies.

Farside I am asking the questions here tia sarcastic jabs about shit reads on the commenter is my thing

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I was going to say something till I saw your list. Did you check GC's meta that was referenced?

I thought reading GC that he was getting mad about his push and it was reading like he was offended that he even had to explain himself. But after researching his meta and rereading his points on BM I'm feeling differently about GC. He recent games are town so far (I didn't check older games) and he is more laid back and not this bitchy typically. Or this full of himself so I'm now leaning more towards a scum read. Plus I feel like he is being a bit over the top on his read and reaction to BM.

Does he typically have to take a leading role in dragging town with him?

Instance attempt at a distancing vote? Note the wording: I "know" that you are really an "assassin droid".

How can you "know" that he is an "assassin droid" unless you are, in fact, scum with him?

Hi theres this great website called google.com that says thats literally what the type of droid is and weve already covered that votato is clearly a fan of star wars and the game thats being referenced.

Didnt we literally spend 10 pages covering how that isnt scummy

Also note all three of Votato, BM and GC have weakly sheep-voted people, using players as shields.

You do realize scum arent likely to do the exact same thing and hide themselves in the exact same styles?

Lie. No follow through (which in this case is anti-town).

votato

tell him my stance on this tia, you should remember my stance on active anti-townity from our last game.

They have all three lied. Lynch all liars. Lying about simple and clear intentions with no follow-through and lying to implicate me is what can be considered scummy here. Simple as that.

OTOH, Dunn has

not

made one single blatant lie in this game. You can ISO everything he has said to confirm that there is no blatant lie. That's the difference between town and scum I think in this particular game.

Not that the "lynch all liars" approach always works, but in this case I think it leads us to the correct solve.

Im not lynching people based off preflip associatives and them "lying" about when they plan to finish catching up because this is a GAME and people have REAL LIVES to focus on.

wait I have to be funny

DAMN STRAIGHT YOU DO

@Farside, @Dr. Pepper, @NS, since I trust you are all three town, would you guys be willing to potentially move over and lynch Clidd this day phase provided that I promise you that we lynch either Dunn or Votato next day phase?

Fuck ass no

I feel the bold to be pretty spot on. I think if dunn was town he would have been an easy lynch. His vote on nm is lazy as that is how nm is and he avoids discussing anything relevant.

IMO only way scums comfy rn is if one of them is leading the apathy wagons.

It does feel sort of suspect looking back. Bm makes a scummy vote on vota. The vota wagon gets quickly abandoned and when he is benign suspect he makes a weak push on dun being town. All the while never really trying to explain how he managed to come to the opposite conclusion using one of your points. Until just before he repped out.

I abandoned it due to cold feet re my own thoughts on votato not related to the wagon and I daresay Im the reason that wagon fell apart, and why are we doing preflip associatives like this.

Robot 728 is town.

-Im sure there are points that help sort conscience, malakitten, and GC.

Im town my darling little curling iron

Is it not scummy to add an extra day to the clock only to use more than double that amount of time up without even saying so much as a word like "I am having trouble catching up" or something? I can understand busyness, but at the same time it only takes about 15-30 seconds to come in and say something like that, and it also helps us.

Do you think for a second that might be scum that has no defense for what I called them out about on Friday?

Votato has also not answered. It has been >36 hours since I asked those questions, and HK only responded after I asked him a second time. Do you think there is a reason these players are dodging those questions?

1) Cases on availability on players not regarded as lurkers of a typical alignment are trash

2) Don't you think scum that had a defense for it would have posted it super quick instead of, as you say, avoiding it?

3) Why do they even need to answer a case that literally boils down to their interactions with someone else that they might not necessarily be on a team with? "YOU HAVE TO BE SCUM FOR DOING THIS WITH THAT SCUM" doesnt really work. Besides, you aren't going to convince those players they are scum. They either know they are or know they arent you cant convince someone of that shit cases are purely to try to convince the rest of the game to follow you.

4) Why do I have to explain these base concepts that you are using to force an apathy lynch?

Read mine and stunguns when you get a chance and tell me what you think and why.

Yes my beloved flashlight.

I think its just really misguided town. I fully agree with the points you are bringing up, but we don’t really have a solid other option presently.

There is a metric ton of associative theory going on without a flip.

THANK YOU

honestly im a bit suspicious of stun for how hard he's spamming the thread pushing inactives, but i think he just got caught up in the excitement of seeing several events happening and unconsciously tying them together. i think it would be a terrible play for the scumteam to ask for more time and then all go afk at the same time.

Yes its the same thing that made me suspect dolly originally and given the gamestate it does kind of make sense. Im back and forth on him because it did feel like he was TvT with GC earlier. But idk.

I feel like hes trying to inject life into a town similar to how I was last game so its whats holding me off atm, but there has to be a scum thats trying to pull strings.

Phone posting so, long and short of BM/Clidd is that BM’s wonky posts that NM called out

I dont really feel like NM has done much calling out and moreso that hes just been tunneling regardless of BMs alignment

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PSA

It is not alignment indicative that votato knows about HK's character. Stop bringing it up and play the actual game TIA.

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MALACURTAINS

I dont like this gamestate and I am calling on you to help me change it.

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Hope it gets better.

Wow I’ve never had this much power before it’s exhilarating

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Votato I want to Lynch scum who should we Lynch

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I mean I get it bc we’ve had some real dumb stuff in here this game

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Still not sure about NS, he has been pretty low under the radar about his thoughts as well.

I’ve been vla for most of the day and I dare say pretty up front when I’m not

I wish mala was here for a second opinion on you

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Maybe I could go for farside with my double vote.

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Dunn looks town and i don’t feel comfortable with lynching clidd.

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Dp what do you think of stun

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Probably flakes from the site for some reason it’s not a scumtell

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I’m convinced we’re mislynching today I’ll be back after night and mala and I will set this town straight

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You know apathetic town is a thing right

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You realize the first post is hinting at that same trajectory?

Wasn’t I the first person to call gc and stun a tvt? I’m calling Dunn town which reminds me

UNVOTE:

If you’re talking about how I’ve been agreeing with you all game to poke at you that’s weak and you know it

[notscience]

You know apathetic town is a thing right

yes,

but apathetic town does not make a really thorough case between me and votato without taking many stances imo, and only considering if I am scum, nothing else.

Where is this in his iso I’m not seeing this

[notscience]

That was a case on you saying you were pushing him to give the appearance you were trying to read him when you weren’t really and it’s actually a solid point? You say he doesn’t take stances but it’s pretty implicit that he thinks you are scum and votato is town in that instance

[notscience]

You guys can try to Lynch me if you want

Be about as useful as the current wagons anyways

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He might just be a later game player like pinhead over there with his vote on me?

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I’m still reading apathetic town there

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But apathetic town doesn’t do anything hurrdurr what are you talking about

Apathetic town has to overcommit and work harder to bust the apathy and I see him trying to do that in his iso

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Votato if you are town get your butt in here and help me figure this game out

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Are you somehow surprised I’m vehemently arguing against a wagon I think is going to flip green? People just keep asking hurrdurr where is he, it’s been more than 24 hours. I commented on the timeframe too, yes just as a nudge that he was supposed to do things but if someone site flakes it’s sketchy as fuck that’s the primary thing people keep talking about to Lynch him

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I’m gonna reread his iso because I had him null before but I have errand to run.

Lynch farside with me?

[notscience]

I think you’re a towel

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The tldr is I’m not getting nitty gritty enough for her

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His push where he thought I was townreading all the people I’m used to playing with?

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If I hadn’t had early townfeels I would be all over stun too tbh

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We’re gonna mislynch d1

You’re caught up welcome back

[notscience]

Oh and I’m a double voter

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Because I’m scum and know everyone’s alignments, duh.

More seriously, just how the game state feels.

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I’m assuming similar reasons to my stance on antitownity- scum is more self concious

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You’re gonna love farsides stance re me then

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The game state is weird with all the vla and general apathy and it feels like one of those apathy Lynch town d1 games.

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Here my issue tho.

I've seen Clidd replace out before. Why is this alignment indicative?

Hate on BM's content all you want but pushing Clidd for this is kinda bordering on desperate

It’s literally been an echo chamber of a fucking clock like we’re a teacher writing him up for being tardy

What do you think of stun gun

[notscience]

Assuming my bearings on the game state are correct he’s the one who makes sense as scum but I too liked his play earlier

We even had to rehash the whole “votato is a Star Wars fan” thing

[notscience]

You know I was town that game and

A) replaced in n1 after an lolhammer
B) the person leading the town was scum and I got super scum vibes for it
C) was trying to assert control over town something I don’t do often
D) had no one I knew until klick came in to back me up
E) day 2 when I tried to assert control ended in 6 hours

So a pretty different situation entirey from this one

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Nah it’s more fun to keep Deflecting

When I get time sure! But I’m busy atm

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Oh it definitely is. But it’s where the day was inevitably going anyways so fuck it right

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Nah the slots scum bc clidd siteflaked!!!!1!!1!1!

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Isn’t he literally the first vote on the wagon

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It’s mostly for vla I’m assuming.

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Welcome pig in sorry you have to replace into this!

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@robot I have more to say but at work

I don’t want to abuse her vote is all, it’s where she wanted and I have no one I feel I’m concretely ready to sink the votes on

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Or he can extend deadline

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I’m pretty sure malas been about as available as I have this game

Is that really the four you wanna go with farside lol

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We have one day left in this day phase and about 5 hours, which means

@Porkens: it is really important that you claim in your next post so that if your role is important to us that are town, we can keep you and have more time to make a well-informed decision to move elsewhere.

I hate cdemands for claims like this. it never seems to help. if it is scum, they can flush out someone else or else send town onto a wild lynch chase that won't go anywhere good. if it is town...how is getting them to claim and out themselves going to help?

What does it make you think re his alignment

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Basically where I’m at is no real footing and no real reason why I don’t have it. I’m trying to figure out why and hope my quips will help me sort out some standing.

I don’t really get the lead wagon and I don’t like the Dunn wagon either, and then it came to a robot wagon and that didn’t really inspire confidence in me either.

I might do a full reread when I have a chance to reset.

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Votato feels different from my experience with him which is making me lean town.

Stunguns early felt town and his interactions with gc felt town but him being scum pushing the mislynches is the only way to rationalize not liking all the main wagons

Gc felt town in his interactions with stun gun.

I really don’t know how to feel about Dp, I keep flip flopping on farside and I was getting towncibes from mala early but we haven’t been able to link up but when I was catching up our reads seemed to be syncing. Ofc it would make sense for her to cater her play to me but it’s hard to cater her play to my catchups without knowing what I’m going to do

I’ve liked hks posting and the main reason I saw against him was preflip associatives. I also like his recent handling re me and reaching out to me for a second opinion on the interaction with stun gun

I liked how Dunn’s been recently. Since being wagoned.

I don’t know why I don’t like the leading wagon so much but it just is pinging the fuck out of my gut.

Geraintm I don’t know how to feel because I don’t like him saying we need to prod him to be better day one even though he really wants to improve but I’m not sure it’s necessarily scummy

Not mafias a broken record that’s kinda hard to get a read on

I feel like I thought bob was town earlier but forgot he existed when o was making this reads list so that says a lot about my stance re him

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I’m saying recent game state makes me think scum but it is in contrast to what I thought earlier so I’m waffling

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Read:

In my POV this feels like I felt in the game farside linked, where we will end up lynching town d1 in a wagon where the primary pusher was scum. You fit the bill for that person, but I liked your early stuff.

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I don’t know why I don’t have more scumread a either it’s why I’m waffling on farside and concerned about my stance re dp

Because honestly part of me was worried coming in they drew scum with mala and my life would suck this game but I think malas town

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I’ve thought about it. But like I said I’m waffling.

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It’s not really the time to pressure in the 11th hour of d1. Its time for lunches.

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That’s such a weird thing to say I don’t think it even makes sense if you’re scum

What the fuck is going on this game

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I also still don’t get what everyone thought was so scummy about Dunn’s early posting

He hasn’t even posted in that style recently and I still like his posts though

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Oh part 2 of that post was talking about hk

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Wasn’t the original concept behind scumreading him associative with votato and bm

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VOTE: porkens

Consolidating at this point

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Farside I’m prettty sure she was right that I used to do it all the time and I actually want to try to work with her this game as evidenced in my iso so I didn’t wanna be brainlessly tunneling all game so I took a step back

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Can y’all make up your minds I don’t have time to vote jump all night I have work

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I really would rather not Lynch gc but I’ll do whatever and move malas

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UNVOTE:

Good luck see y’all tomorrow

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Excuse u

I don’t have time to deal with this tonight and I’m just getting annoyed in my skims

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Mala I’ll sheep you if you’re confident just give me a shout

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My gut disagrees

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Why

He wasn’t able to fake tone vs me and I like his tone here

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I don’t get what you’re saying

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Didn’t we already cover I couldn’t talk about why I voted votato there

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I for one can’t wait to no lunch today

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Let’s Lynch farside mala it’ll be fun

She can get mad about me not having a sensible reason again

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Mala I’m not lynching Dunn he sounded town the past few days

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How do you pocket someone you have no interactions with and why pocket me of all people

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Rvs interaction and calling me town prior to my read on him reading town based on his late play not his midday play

Okay

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Don’t hate me cause you can’t out obv town me

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Below isn’t really relevant to the game

Spoiler: farside

I’m sorry. Idk why but it’s like every time I’m annoyed at something you posted something that annoyed me further and I’ve kinda been a raging douche and taking it out in game and it’s kinda why I left before is I was doing it all the time now I’m doing it again .-. . I know it won’t change anything about you replacing out but I genuinely am sorry. Idk. And you can call this scum theater or whatever but I genuinely feel bad about it. I get if you never want to play with me again because yeah I’ve kinda been a little shit and now I feel guilty af which isn’t really strengthening my apology but here we are. We can talk about it postgame.

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You can’t redact a replace out I don’t think which makes me feel shitty and like I have to make it up to her and carry tf out of this game so here we go serious mode

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mmmmmmmmmmmmmeh

not a great reason but also not scum indicative imo

At that point in the game it was a carbon copy, hence my vote. And him saying he prefers scum was weird given me watching him lurk to a win and I felt like he was lying about it too.

@Mala: has ns pocketed you? what are your thoughts on ns?

Candidly we both should be more paranoid of each other than we are but I think it’s due to not playing together for so long the paranoias notnthere anymore? Idk. She wasn’t wrong I used to tunnel her incessantly but that’s not a fun way to play so I didn’t do that and our reads are linking up which I think is a good sign for her

farside's case

I mean besides the fact it’s literally similar reasoning to her read obnme? I feel like farside knows that scum aren’t likely to use the same tactics to hide. Plus she’s been saying we’re both in her four scum and I don’t know of a scum team that would so readily give their votes and tie themselves to each other- even though we’d be expected to play this close it’s definitely a step up from where it’d be if we were buddies or something- plus we’re still moving autonomously.

I feel like I missed stuff further back standby

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Also NS, I can understand the rationale about not wanting to move malakitten vote to a degree, but I expect that the additional concealed reason to be explained asap when possible.

Honestly I still personally dont see it lining up with your projected tone over the matter

Ive honestly always been a big talker lol

You can call me scum for not moving it if you want I guess but I was just enjoying having the freedom too but with how much I’ve been waffling it didn’t seem like a good idea to slap a vote down.

Consolidate elsewhere, the idea that there can’t be any other lynch is false. Again, Dunn has 1 less vote than I do.


Lynching Dunn will tell us a lot. There are clear associativas. BM tarnishes this slot so badly what do you learn about anything? Keep me around you won’t regret it.

The fuck kinda sleazy car salesman shit is this

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This might even suggest some scum are in the passive players group

All 3 scum won’t be passive or it’s a sure fire loss for them and they know it

You need 1 agg 1 pass 1 in between

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he hasn't beetlejuiced

Yes Dunn has I called him on it lol

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What’s the point of that statement then. I can literally make any generalization like that- stuff like that won’t really help anything and just seems like an attempt to be profound lol

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I’d be down for a bob lunch.

@geraintm- I know you don’t like day one but can you muster up a readslist? It doesn’t need to be hk levels in depth just little blips for why you think. I don’t know where your heads at currently.

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Porkens level with me is your main reason for your stance on Dunn self preservation? I don’t really think it’s inherently scummy to be self preserving- as town you only know yourself to be town but everyone else has a 1/4 chance. There’s some weird stuff you’ve posted I don’t like but I’m curious.

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Why is bob town to both of you?

And no shit all the scum aren’t hyper active I’m townreading most of them pretty solidly

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You can read flip on me if you want but I’m here to try hard now

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Spoiler:

I hate to say it but I’m still ok with a Dunn lynch. As much as I didn’t like BM’s posts.. the SG flop is going to be a turn off right now in terms of voting there until I sort that out. Gera is off the table for today, but note I’m not sold on him being scum
Or town. He’s really null for me; the same with NM.

My gut feeling is that dun is town. As i just can't see scum blatantly making blank votes on a player claiming to scum read him and the other going wagon. It feels too blatant for scum. Would have thought that if he is scum then he would have tried dressing it up, instead he simply posts a series of quotes and doesn't say why they lead him to scum reading not mafia.

Would scum real vote for someone when their last comment on that player was that he had in fact had no read on them. If he was scum i would have expected something along the lines of something between a few short sentences to several paragraphs.

I can totally see scum making blank votes. The fact he’s being cyrpitc and won’t explain his votes makes me think there’s no case to begin with and he’s hiding behind blank votes.

My case is that his posts suck and he has no reason for his vote in the first place

Beetle juice

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I called geraintm out for actively reading and not participating

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You know damn well I sound more like how you’re used to me this past hour than I have this entire game votato

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DP I’m gonna need you to get your hands dirty you’re flitting around the outskirts of everything and it’s concerning me

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Also I don’t feel like scum would sit on the same rvs vote all day even though they got called out for it like five times. I don’t think anyone in this playerlist other than him and kinda myself (which he wouldn’t know) even look really heavily into vca so it’s not like he’s trying to avoid it I felt genuine relief when I read his earlier post to mala about his “day1ness”

Am I happy with what he’s provided, no. Do I think he’s scum? Also no.

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Mala we’re talking about farside tomorrow when we are both on tia

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Whoever is townreading not mafia can you walk me through it? I’m not really seeing any alignment tells through his posting or lack there of it’s kinda hard to read a tunnel

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I’m getting ready for bed but will reply to anything before I pass out. Will try to do stuff in the am.

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Also side note but can y’all that keep quoting all these walls start putting them in spoilers or snipping them or something it’s making it harder to read

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Lay your theory on me I can’t make heads or tails of it from your iso

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I also think the robot calling for a truce with stun seemed town because actively avoiding shitting on the thread isn’t something he had to do but he’s trying to keep from apathy inducing

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I still don’t really understand how you think Dunn pocketed me either that was really contrived

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I don’t think geraintm and stun can be scum together- either t/t or t/s

I don’t feel like he’s done squat? Like honestly this is more than I ever remember Dunn doing things lol

I don’t think geraintm professes a controversial read on his partner like that, but stun Dunn maybe?

I don’t think geraintm is playing unless directly prodded so I don’t think it’s reeevabt I just think he was getting called out more when Dunn was the leading wagon bc there’s actually stuff to analyze and he’s answering more

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Tell me about that tinfoil team theory I’d love to hear that one too

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How do you know it couldn’t be white knighting?

And it’s relevant autocorrect is selectively useful

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Dunn didn’t I used to scumread you every game for lurking