Newbie 2084: Signs [game over!]

[marcistar]

HELLO EVERYBODY HELLA HYPED AND EXCITED TO BE PLAYING WITH U!!@@!!@@@!!!!

VOTE: Meuh

This is a very serious scumread.

locktown tbh

[marcistar]

omw to start my daily meuh-tunnelling

HELLO EVERYBODY HELLA HYPED AND EXCITED TO BE PLAYING WITH U!!@@!!@@@!!!!

VOTE: Meuh

This is a very serious scumread.

locktown tbh

dropping townreads this early, marci>?? must mean you're trying to pocket (either me or azumarill, i'm not even sure who you're calling locktown)
very suspicious behaviour

im trying to pocket meg azurmarill obv anyone who votes meuh is a friend of mine!!!

It's a sine!

VOTE: Meuh

This is a very serious scumread.

:0 how could you? I'm a pure innocent angel

see u feel

off

already,
u know im the innocent angel

[marcistar]

I dunno what is up with the townread this early either

mfw people dont know its a joke

[marcistar]

I dunno what is up with the townread this early either

mfw people dont know its a joke

Oh. Well probably should have figured.

its fine bestie !!!
if u want to hear a serious townread rn,
ur town

and yes this is me trying to pocket u

This game surely got off to a slow start.

do u want to spice it up

[marcistar]

ill explain a bit on the cape90 being town thing ig

i liked his starting post (7), it didn't seem nervous at all, i expect scum to be a bit nervous.
then i liked 16 alot actually, which is what stuck "cape90 = town" in my head originally. the taking the "locktown" as a townread on meg azurmarill at face value, while some people might think not understanding a joke = scummy, i don't think that would be the case here. 19 gives good vibes following that. i think hes not thinking too deeply into stuff, while scum would think deeply and be like "what if i say something weird aaaa i need to understand this aaa" and would analyze it more before posting. i also like how it seems like hes poking at things.

[marcistar]

while im aware i usually sus meuh for the weirdest reasons (me and meuh are friends fyi), this post ↓ was 100% serious.

It's a sine!

VOTE: Meuh

This is a very serious scumread.

:0 how could you? I'm a pure innocent angel

see u feel

off

already,
u know im the innocent angel

to me it feels weird because i dont remember meuh using "pure innocent angel " much before, as thats typically something i would say.
im not sure if it makes her scum, but it makes her feel

off.

[marcistar]

do u want to spice it up

In what way?

"speedwagon somebody.."

idk we can either:
-1v1 for no reason
-attack somebody together
ur choice

Why do you expect scum to be a bit nervous?

idk cape90s experience but just in general,
scum are usually worried about their appearances, so i feel like they would be cautious when entering the thread, and a bit nervous abt making the wrong comment. early on people latch onto like anything, so making the wrong comment will be deadly

I think you are looking too deep into me.

yah cuz im trying to get the game started
(like itll prob end up in me being wagoned but idm )

its an early read, it wont hold much weight as more stuff develops

while im aware i usually sus meuh for the weirdest reasons (me and meuh are friends fyi), this post ↓ was 100% serious.

:0 how could you? I'm a pure innocent angel

see u feel

off

already,
u know im the innocent angel

to me it feels weird because i dont remember meuh using "pure innocent angel " much before, as thats typically something i would say.
im not sure if it makes her scum, but it makes her feel

off.

This still doesn't feel like a real read to me.

its a real read bb if u want u can scumread me for making reads out of like nothing.

[marcistar]

its a real read bb if u want u can scumread me for making reads out of like nothing.

The bolded part feels odd tbh, why are you suddenly so defensive the second someone makes a negative comment about a read you’re making? Nothing was said about scumreading you, drawing that line yourself reeks of paranoia

to me, "not a real read" is something a scum player would do, so im trying to see if he draws that same conclusion...?
what makes it seem defensive..? it was just a casual comment inviting scumreads on me with open arms

[marcistar]

The invitation just feels like fake confidence and like I said, they never said they scumread you, so it came out of nowhere. I can easily see scum make that post in an attempt to posture as a confident townie willing to die, yknow?

mmmhmm yeah ic
why no vote pressure if u see that as scummy..?

Game can start properly when the remaining 20% of people join us.

i dont think we should let that stunt our growth tbh

1. I see what you are getting at with the whole scum are cautious thing. I feel like, more of a kinda tell I look for is consistency or even the lack there of, I feel like either are usually town indicative, meanwhile, if it more mixed, then I kinda find that sort of thing a scumtell.

mmhmm yeah i see this, that kind of stuff will become more obv later on but now we still need some more solid stuff i feel.

if ur actually scum i might be a bit sad ngl, cuz i feel like ull have me pocketed fairly soon

It just seems like a very strange meta observation to make on such a simple post.

To clarify my whole stance on the read not being "real" it isn't that I feel like the read is disingenuous, it is just a read that feels like it shouldn't actually mean anything, if that makes sense.

i can see how its a strange point yeah,
later on ill get a better read on her

Man I feel old when new terms come into play that are new to me... when did "locktown" become a thing... haha

heya heya! when did u last play..?
im not sure when it became a thing

[marcistar]

Ah Sorry Im late but im ready to get in the groove of this Mafia game

Im not really into voting someone of the bat (even if they havnt made a post yet), since there is players like me that might just be late to the game

Thats fine, but do try to check in a couple times a day pretty please?
You don't

need

to vote somebody off the bat, its just trying to kickstart discussion (-:
Has anything stuck out as either good/bad to you so far? Or anything else you would like to comment on?

Ah Sorry Im late but im ready to get in the groove of this Mafia game

Im not really into voting someone of the bat (even if they havnt made a post yet), since there is players like me that might just be late to the game

I love this song!



UNVOTE: AsuStuckey

what do you love so much abt it that made you unvote?

[marcistar]

Let's say I do. Who is your choice and why?

prob meg, since I wanna solve them and I feel like it might be more benefical to do it earlier on.

[marcistar]

Then again, there is one RVS at MegAzumarill right now. With me and you counted in, he will be put at E-2 immediately. Are you sure about that?

I actually misread the vote tally. It’s MegAzumarill who is voting Meuh, not the opposite. Which makes this even safer as even with three votes they will still only be at E-2, not E-1.

mm yeah, putting people at e-2 isnt too bad of a thing i think..? as long as we would make it obv. we could always unvote if it looks like some people are setting up for a quick hammer as well.
i agree with (i forgot who said this, but them ), why are u so worried about numbers..? e-1 is where we should be sweating, but if u scumread someone or think somethings helpful, whats bad about putting them to e-2..?

Funny how you all are suggesting MegAzumarill when I was thinking the same thing. Just feels like they have been putting off doing anything useful this game at all and are using 36 as a sort of cover (even if this isn't the case, I still dislike this post).

"you all" it was just me suggesting it LOL
its true they've been putting off doing anything useful, while i do see the points about this just being their general playstyle.. it also isn't really that helpful? it would be tricky to find out if theyre scum or not if they just keep going "yeah thats my playstyle" its a good place to pressure at least, but i wouldn't condemn them so early for it.

The other person is Mueh because fundamentally 43 seems counter intuitive in, well, trying to solve the game, at least early on.
Though I sort of like 34 from Mueh as I find it at the very least a good post so they can stay.

i also didnt like 43, but im not paying too much attention to it cuz its just boils down to i have a different viewpoint than her.

I’ve been townreading you, Cape90.

can u expand on this more?

On that note I’d like to know why Marci threw your name out there in the first place?

(I'm aware Marci voiced why she voted Meg already, but I'd just like elaboration basically)

i haven't actually voted them, i just threw their name there and dipped lol
the reason i threw their name out there, was partly because i felt like if we were to pressure them, we would get a good response, and hopefully make it easier for others as they join the game to get a few reads. i also felt as if they might be a bit harder for me to read as the game progresses, but like this is backed up on nothing except pure vibes.

69 is good soup.

Oh and I forgot to do this again.

VOTE: marcistar

Time to start with people I absolutely don't think I know.

hi, hru, got any thoughts?

marcistar can you give an estimate of how accurate you think that is? Or, I'd kind of like to see where that idea comes from, so can you provide an example?

I meant how accurate do you feel the read about nervousness is.

it depends on experience i think, though its not too damning since theres other reasons why someone could be nervous.
the easiest example i could think of rn is an offsite example so sadly u wouldn't see the actual proof. i dont go scouring thru random games, but im sure it happens here too.

[marcistar]

Why am I worried about putting someone at E-2? Because we have two scums who can easily jump on a wagon and seal it. Also, I'm not having someone eliminated without proof or at least a feeling. Wagons can also be used for other purposes than actually voting someone out and that's what I want to do.

if scum do that, it'll be obv who scum is lol

Tarot.

it haunts me...

I lean that marcistar is town for the comfort and early force of presence, which is an improvement on her performance in Tarot. It is always scary to read players quickly improving, and there is less to worry about in a Newbie game, but I'm fine assuming the best at the moment.

i think im just best when im comfortable with the playerlist

Spoiler: @meuh bestie

Scattered commentary/questions I had:

The [marcistar's] invitation just feels like fake confidence and like I said, they never said they scumread you, so it came out of nowhere. I can easily see scum make that post in an attempt to posture as a confident townie willing to die, yknow?

I can see this applying to a generalized userbase, but leveraging your personal knowledge of marcistar-do you think she makes such an attempt as scum?

Let's say I do. Who is your choice and why?

prob meg, since I wanna solve them and I feel like it might be more benefical to do it earlier on.

Can you elaborate on why for both of these statements?

UNVOTE:

Spartan/Prism

since the slot’s said something now

My response was just a player intro, completely lacking in game commentary and a vote. I just replaced in so of course I would post eventually-it's the game content you should be waiting for.

would u mind not using this blue color pretty please..? its really hard to read on the skin i use..
the yellow ones also kinda hard but idm it too much compared to that blue, i can handle it

[marcistar]

@

marcistar

are you jumping ship on Meg or not?

do u want me to..?
im still trying to think a lil bit

[marcistar]

@

marcistar

are you jumping ship on Meg or not?

do u want me to..?
im still trying to think a lil bit

Let's say I

do

want you to jump on his wagon. What do you say to that?

ill vote it when i wanna unless if u have a good reason
i was og gonna soon after i suggested it and seeing what you thought, but then i got busy and now its not my fave cup of tea.

Also right know I am trying to find out easy ways to tell if someone is mafia in the way you guys talk to each other, but in general I'm really confused on who to vote.
Finally, If you guys can give me tips on what to look for and how to jump into conversations that would really help

dont worry too much about who to vote right now, it'll come with time.
question things if you don't understand. what greeting said in 170 point #3, i agree that'll be an easy way to get into conversation in the first place. but then once you talk with people and see their views on things, you'll have to try to see if it makes sense for them to do what they're doing.

This leaves a pool of AzuStuckey, greeting, Prohawk lims for today.

i wouldn't want to elim azustuckey today yet, as I want to give them more time to practice playing (:

[marcistar]

Not sure why that posted twice? Site bug I suppose, didn't do it intentionally

its cuz ur readslist is so fire people need to see it twice ofc
i like ur reads, i think ur town, i might be wrong but that looks like too much effort

[marcistar]

Not sure why that posted twice? Site bug I suppose, didn't do it intentionally

its cuz ur readslist is so fire people need to see it twice ofc
i like ur reads, i think ur town, i might be wrong but that looks like too much effort

I mean idk if effort is really AI for me, during my one scum game I posted like 53 times in the ~60 hours I was alive, including a readslist (although a much less extensive one)
The general environment of the game was pretty fast during that timeframe tbf, but my point still stands

oh.. it felt like a lil much tho

I've found

marcistar

quite scummy from the very beginning. I disliked almost all of their posts. This is meta, but surprisingly it hasn't failed me yet. Players with a certain posting style from all my previous games (the ones which I can talk about are N2078 and N2081) all turned out to be scum. All three of them. The ones which I can talk about are GrandpaMo in N2078 and Not_Mafia in N2081. They all have the same way in which they formulate thoughts - in a liberal way, without using capital letters etc. You know what I mean. I interpret this as a loose approach to the game, signifying distancing and a relaxed attitude. All that is there for a reason - and the reason is that they want to avoid being seen as stressed, because being scum and having to lie all the time is quite stressful. Check it out yourself and compare.

i think this is quite a weird thing to be reading people based off of. reminds me of when i used to get scumread for my emoji usage

So basically

marcistar

plants the seed and then avoids responsibility for it.

this is true.

Now, I think this could have influenced

marcistar

's play who understood that

MegAzumarill

's wagon (at least I can speak for myself - not

Cape90

nor anyone else who's on that wagon) is not about

MegAzumarill

at all, but about her. Also, in the meantime the game took off, drifted away, leaving my original idea redundant and irrelevant. Plus, the things that happened in-between altered my perception of other players, including

MegAzumarill

.

i see the line of thinking here.
i already knew you didn't townread me for awhile tho
i also stayed off for a reason.

There are also other things that are a scumread for

marcistar

. For instance, there are a lot of questions asked with no follow-up whatsoever. Posts 42, 47 (question to me) or 89 come to mind. Sure, they've asked people to expand on some issues but they did nothing with the responses. It's a way of getting towncred - seeming like they're trying to get reads, while in fact doing it just for the show.

I typically ask alot of questions
the not following it up tho, i can see that yeah.
i just drop stuff if they make sense as a reasonable enough explanation to me > or if they haven't responded: i can't guarantee they've seen it, they could've been skimming, and I can't force them to respond so i wait a bit. but i could see how its scummy.

I don't believe it and it's a matter of votes and whether the other players have questions and agree/disagree.

i think its prob just a notes thread maybe, tho im not sure exactly this argument is a bit confusing

Meuh

I feel like she's trying to be cute with posts like 81, 90, 98, which is well... cute, but also a bit scummy. Making oneself look cute and vulnerable is a scum strategy I'd personally support and approve if I were scum.

i would say this is kinda not indicative of anything for meuh, she just acts cute sometimes

- -

asustuckey

what do you think about meuh (188) and greetings (224) reads..?

[marcistar]

Probably going to take a peek at Prism, getting scum-vibes there ATM.

how longs this gonna take?
im interested to see what uve got ^.^

[marcistar]

The missing puzzle, which I briefly mentioned in 205 is user MafMen from N2082, who has been posting in the same way as the other two users I had mentioned before.

capitalization and such is largely nai, its just a coincidence everyone u've meet up until now that dont do it were scum.

also, if ur curious go thru ur town tracker igorsprites iso in newbie 2082, while he does use

some

capitalization, more posts don't use it. :3
just one example, but i could find diff people fitting this bill if needed.

I just wanted to say that

Prism

plays a similar role (of a mentor, senior figure somewhat) in this game to

implosion

in N2082. And since implosion was town in that game, that strengthens my townread of

Prism

.

you can believe what you want ^.^ but i think it'll be bad to use this as a piece of evidence since prism could prob easily do it as scum as well. prism and implosion aren't the same people as well, so comparing them is meh :3

They're also on the

marcistar

wagon, which I think leads to voting out a potential scum, but this could be distancing as well (SM voted them first, I joined second), as it seems that the rest of town doesn't agree with that read. So yeah, still neutral territory, but with better potential than the other two.

:shrug: im not scum
im not sure if they fully agree with their vote on me during all points in time..? afterall 117s votecount was right before 118 where they say i feel town.

[marcistar]

Greeting, I think you’re putting a bit too much emphasis on the way some people talk or general archetypes of players as patterns from past games to define your reads. I skimmed through other games I played with Marci and she didn’t use capital letters more there. Mentors can be town, and they can be scum. I don’t think alignment would change whether or not someone plays as a mentor or if someone suddenly likes capitalizing things.

VOTE: Greeting
If anything their recent play has reinforced my scumread on them.
It's a very easy thing for newer scum players to try and read into styles more so than content because
1. It's easy
2 It's the first thing you notice
3 They don't actually need to use the content to solve the game

why wouldnt his partner tell him to stop after the first time?

[marcistar]

why wouldnt his partner tell him to stop after the first time?

Which player here would you even think would have both the confidence and means to try and micromanage their partner in such a way?

i think anyone except asustuckey and maybe prohawk

Spoiler:

asustuckey because i dont think they would be giving any suggestions, and prohawk because i dont think he would be active enough..

would mention in scumchat to not push based off of style things. its not too much management to do since style things is obv a very.. weak push that'll gain attention and i think most people would be able to mention that.

- -

i think maybe prohawks read on prism doesnt look too good cuz it looks like hes focused too much on defending himself. its still possible prisms scum so i was expecting something a lil bit better :'(

I have a hard time seeing that scum-greeting goes all-in on pushing for a marci lynch when they are essentially on the chopping block. Greeting has been pretty much front and center, playing very bold, I don't see that from scum here yet.

i like this part of prohawks posting tho, but the prism stuff overshadows it in my memory.

Hawk seems more focused on throwing suspicion on Prism than on developing significant reads or reads on the broader set of players, which is off-putting

I don't have the time to go through the thread and make a giant ass reads list, not to mention this is D1 with no flips or alignments to analyze which actually yield productive results.

I already mentioned the effort of scum hunting which put you and Marcii as top town reads for me. I'm not sure what else you want?

I'm not asking for a huge list, just a bit more development. Also D1 can absolutely be a productive day and while flips help the game develop, there is nothing stopping us from advancing significantly before then

Advancing based on speculative information?

i dont like how hes not really willing to give much reads, its just stunting towns growth. since if we're in a state where people don't wanna give reads, scum can just make a nk that makes it hard to make reads based on flip.. does this make sense..? idk if i worded well enough

i think its kinda possible for prohawk to be scum here..? i don't mind voting him, and i'll do so
VOTE: prohawk

[marcistar]

Did you see Prisms reaction to my post? Rofl

i think prisms frustrated
and i think its reasonable here for her to be (when shes kinda explained the meta stuff before).
even if her "trajectory on you is odd", odd doesn't always mean scummy. > i don't even find her progression on you odd, you haven't been giving as much content as some of the other people, and for what you said in the bottom of this post, its not wrong to "vote park" if you're not getting what you want, i know sometimes i tunnel people if im not satisfied with what they give me. and then im not quite too sure what that thing in ur post was abt the quickshifting.

302 as a whole felt icky from you.
and i think you haven't been helpful for town.
and i think ur too focused on urself, instead of scumhunting.

i really do think it would be easier to read you if you at least tried to give reads, like i know ur capable of doing it.

[marcistar]

I can't necessarily explain it well, but for some reason I don't really like this post all too well. Like it seems you are commentating/sidelining on all of this. And the tone in all of the parts of the post I quoted, something feels off here.

how am i sidelineing when i voted..? isn't that taking a clear stance on the situation..?
tone feels off in a scummy way..? or just off..?

@Marci what are your thoughts on StrangeMatter?

null read, but they aren't top of my worries rn.
i don't really find most of what they've done scummy.

I kinda feel like I've already made up my mind as to whom I'd like to be voted out today.

Marcistar

is the only moderate scumread I have at the moment. We do have quite some time until EOD though, and I don't see a majority building on her, so I guess I have to look into alternatives. I'm not sure if I'll do it today, maybe tomorrow tbf.

never say never bestie!!

[marcistar]

Between Marcii and myself, I would choose myself to flip I think, I'll get back to you on that.

aaa do scum usually be like "i would choose myself over someone else"??

i think during the reading of the latest developments of the prism v prohawk arc, i think its just them not being able to understand/fulfill eachothers expectations clearly.
but ill still wait until prohawk gets more reads out to unvote, since thats largely why i was fine with the vote og

[marcistar]

prohawk did u already say what u think of strangematter or no..?

[marcistar]

VOTE: StrangeMatter

- -

strangematter do u have more reads yet..?
ur one of the people im debating between tbh

[marcistar]

GtH there the mafia there is ProHawk and not Prism.

can u tell me what "GtH" means please?

i don't

dislike

prohawks read on strangematter, but imo it felt a bit like i had to ask for it yknow..?

[marcistar]

whered u talk abt ur meg azumarill read..? or did u not..?

[marcistar]

Marci feels extremely off, like she's needing to project confidence to throw off her usual tell of effort=town.

i need confidence for a diff reason ahaha

Ironic that Prism reads marci-town for the same reason i'm sorta reading marci-scum, hah. Prism, you are missing a major jump in scum ability in the Isekai game, where Marci and I were partners and she held her own MUCH better.

... if u want another point of reference of my scumgame? that might fit like a bit better into what i would act like in a newbie game

My problem is that this game followed the roadmap I kind of laid out in the scum discord for isekai BUT I acknowledge that the starting board for this game isn't the scary one that Tarot/Isekai contained and following said roadmap may not have been something that even sprung to mind.

i don't remember it

Interesting that marci directs a quesiton at Asu specifically about the reads.

me asking asustuckey abt what they thought abt meuh and greetings reads was just me trying to get them into the game i felt like maybe talking about reads would be a good starting point, am i wrong..?

[marcistar]

is cabd scum..?

[marcistar]

it should be obvious, but in case it isnt; i lost my motivation to play sometime during d1 (also getting a bit more busy lately but we dont talk abt that )

Personally, though I'm fine with eliminating Cabd here. Though I'm wondering if we still have things we want to discuss at this point?

i don't see you explaining anywhere why you preferred cabd > prowhawk, did i miss it..? if not can u answer lol

I absolutely hated the last minutes of Day One, but

StrangeMatter

did vote in the end and admitted being very nervous (658). Not 100% sure that I'm buying it. But to be fair, if they weren't absent, they must have known that likely it was their vote that would decide the outcome of the game, so putting themselves out like this sounds like an illogical decision to make as scum. Or maybe that's really what happened and I just think they're more advanced than they actually are.

i think anyone in the position of having to decide between 2 wagons would be nervous, so that part isnt really super scummy imo. but im more curious abt the reasons, cuz there must've been something there..
cabd had like no time to do anything, while a prohawk vote there could be reasonings to use, it feels a bit like they were just doing what was easiest :/

Spoiler:

i just generally hate eliming people before they get the chance to do anything tho

agree with ur part about megazurmarill being absent, though I haven't played with them before so im not too sure if its scummy.

Do you think that both scums were on the

Cabd

wagon or did they spread votes? We have two conftownies on the

ProHawk

wagon, and

Cape90

whom I'm still reading town. But then there's

marcistar

.

Cabd

[5]: Meuh, Greeting, ProHawk, MegAzumarill, StrangeMatter [HAMMER]

ProHawk

[4]:

Prism

, marcistar, Cape90,

Cabd

u didnt ask me but heres my solid opinion:
i dont really believe prohawks wagon has anyone nasty on it

I don't really fully get the logic behind two scum on wagons idea. To me, it's generally unlikely and more commonly done that scum spreads themselves thinly instead of though I haven't tested this idea much (it's happened before, where both scum jumped onto one wagon, so maybe it's more likely to happen with scum who knows this idea well, though that's a guess in its own right and should be taken with a huge side of salt).

i dont usually hunt based on wagons so its a struggle for me.., scum could've easily spread themselves, they also could've easily both done the same thing. we won't know until game end :/
the only reason why i think prohawks wagon is pure, is because i townread cape90 ( - :
greetings question (676) is good; ur post just looks like a bit of complaining without driving us anywhere since u didn't explain originally : PP

From where I stand, the ProHawk wagon looks pretty pure
Though it would be the wildest thing if the scumteam was Pro/Marci now huh. I'm tempted to jump the gun and say if ProHawk is town, then Marci probably has a good shot at being mafia

the chances of prohawk being town are low, but never 0

Also prism kill strongly implicates Greeting as scum.

Add it to the pile of reasons to vote them!

i dont agree that a prism kill implies greeting as scum, why do u think so..?
to me it looked like prism could've been killed because they were active, and have a big say on the game state.. i think anyone could've killed prism
also explain whats the reasons to vote greeting..? idontremember any of them

[marcistar]

why does it imply greeting but not imply prohawk

[marcistar]

why wouldnt greeting let prism live another day so that she can continue tunneling prohawk..?
do u think prohawk x greeting or..?

[marcistar]

"fearing investigative prism" and "prism kill implies scum greeting" to me only work if prohawk is also scum with greeting yeah. (assuming greetings scum)

did u think abt this before saying it implied greeting..?

also, i don't really believe greetings scum unfortunately.

[marcistar]

Also. no time? Are you kidding me? The game went up until only a couple minutes before Prism’s stated deadline left in deadline and you’re saying I didn’t give him enough time to do something but I’m seriously wondering if you’re ignoring that even happened and used it as shade.

it was shade, i wont lie.
one of my strong beliefs is that I want to give everyone the chance to actually play, and cabd wasn't given that chance.

Inb4 the scumteam is

MegAzumarill

and

ProHawk

. This isn’t newbie play. They weren’t town PR hunting, they just wanted to kill two birds with one stone and simply got lucky while doing it.

I think that theres at least 1 SE as scum yeah, but im not too sure if two rn.
im fine with the poe of <<strangematter, prohawk, meg azuramarill>> for now, but it does seem awfully easy so im worried about that.
i think like... i developed a bias by accident about prohawk. so i'll wait until he comes in and talks a bit.
i do have *some* idea of where we could possibly be reading wrong, but sometimes games are just easier then expected.

Independent of the nightkill I want a Greeting elim on long discussed grounds. I don't think their play matches them as town and there's always the whole PT think prism likely died over.

Prohawk aftee my catchup would be the most likely partner for Greeting. After their exchange with prism it looked townie at first, but looks more like forced cluelessness as scum digging deeper.

the notes pt thing is stupid imo.
you thinking its now prohawk x greeting reads weird rn imo, since idk if u were even thinking about it originally, but then after i brought up the possiblity it seemed like u thought it was an op idea.

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what happened to people wanting to look into me more today?
what happened to survey says prohawk is mafia

[marcistar]

This also likely played a factor in the decision. Players towards the end of the reads list would have more motive than players towards the front.

so u have a motive to kill her?

Who the F is Titus? I've heard this name before but it's been a looong time.

titus. shes nice

Why MegA and not Marci? She's actually been laying REAL low. In terms of actual posts, she has 35, MegA has 80 or so...

its true that i ~prob~ have a low post count compared to others, i haven't checked how much i have rn, but thats usually just how i play. i could easily spam the thread and raise my post count, but i prefer to just respond in one post to a bunch of stuff if i can.

if

anyones

curious abt what i think, just ask me cuz usually its just me asking questions when i find somethings off/when im confused and i dont make cases unless i feel like i need/want to

why does it imply greeting but not imply prohawk

....

hmm..?

why wouldnt greeting let prism live another day so that she can continue tunneling prohawk..?
do u think prohawk x greeting or..?

This is why Cape is strong town for me... you on the other hand are pushing the issue which doesn't make you look so good.

uhh can u explain this more..? how does this make cape strong town for u when this post was about you and greeting

If I am being candid, we ran off a newbie because we all wanted to overwhelm the thread (I may be a bit biased as I invited said newbie to play) neither here nor there though at this point.

aa we scared them??? let them know im sorry later okay? i wanted to help them get into the game more i feel so bad.

Marci skated through D1, had motive to kill Prism, has started to be more active today but is taking really strange pot-shots while sitting on the sidelines.

whats pot shots mean here..? (i wont deny im "sitting on the sidelines" tho )
i like the rest of that post ( :

[716) from strangematter i like.

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VOTE: megazurmarill

[marcistar]

I don’t like having anyone on E-1 at the moment

Marci why did you vote Meg?

1. i didnt realize that was e-1 sorry about that LOL
2. so that my partner could hammer ofc!!! (i just liked the vote, i think megazmarills scum )

I am not the lim today.
This game is pretty much solved from my perspective.

Meuh and Cape are almost definitely town.
Prohawk is not s/s with marcistar.

I am town.

Therefore we have 5 scumteam options: Greeting with strange, prohawk, or Marci.
Or strangematter with Marci/prohawk.

A Greeting into strangehawk lim guarantees we make it to d4 at least. If I get limped we likely lose lylo

I am not the lim today.

Meuh and Cape are almost definitely town.

I am town.
see its so easy to say this, show proof that ur town bestie!!!

I'm open to a marci elimination though.

same

Just do me a favor.
Read this

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

And I swear you won't be able to tell me it's the same Greeting.

It is night and day

how much experience does greeting have with playing? maybe hes just trying a new style

whats pot shots mean here..?

"the chances of prohawk being town are low, but never 0"

":shifty: is cabd scum..?"

"whered u talk abt ur meg azumarill read..?

or did u not..

?"

"prohawk did u already say what u think of strangematter or no..?"

Examples of slinging mud from the sidelines. What I call pot-shots.

aaaah i c, i still dont know what it means because im stupid but what i was doing in some of those was i was trying to leave room for people to talk w me abbt it

I have seen a lot of people throwing out StrangeMatter on their list of mafia candidates, why isn't there more of a push here?

valid question actually
idk they just havent done much compared to some others

If you're paying attention to the game, why in the hell would you mistake Prism for Titus? Like where is that even a link? Even if you were playing a game with Titus somewhere else, where is that crossover? Honestly, re-reading MegAzumarill's posts and trying to figure out what he sees in scum-you I think I'm getting some of the same now.

Vote: Greeting

this is within the top 2 scummiest posts of all game sigh

If you're paying attention to the game, why in the hell would you mistake Prism for Titus? Like where is that even a link? Even if you were playing a game with Titus somewhere else, where is that crossover?

Because they're both female and, in my eyes, were senior figures and experienced players in their respective games.

Titus posts nothing like Prism from my experience

pls im so confused werent u just confused abt who titus is and if titus and prism are the same people why are u talking about ur experiences now like this-

[marcistar]

[marcistar]

pls im so confused werent u just confused abt who titus is and if titus and prism are the same people why are u talking about ur experiences now like this-

I was confused about WHY Titus was being mentioned in THIS game. I've played games with Titus, a few of them IIRC although it has been quite some time.

oh but im still confused

Who the F is Titus? I've heard this name before but it's been a looong time.

doesnt the way u word this make it seem like u completely forgot ur experiences with her ? T_T

I can do this too...

imagine scumreading someone enough to vote them based off of them by accident saying a wrong name such a lame and boring and scummy way to scumhunt

I don't have anything to add atm. I want to see how your partner reacts :p

Partner attacks the attacker for him.

What's the name of that?

Chainsaw?

yes im pretty sure its called chainsaw
is that what u think im doing, cuz it really aint what im doing

[marcistar]

I vote your scum buddy, you attack me for it. Why is that not a chainsaw? Like for reals...

cuz im not scum xoxoxoxoxoxox

stop chainsaw defending ur scumbuddy smhsmh

[marcistar]

VOTE: prohawk

[marcistar]

just elim me tbh, alot more people are wary of me than they are of greeting.
theres no way i would have a chance of doing well in the ~final stretch of the game~ if prohawk is left alive, along with the rest of u guyses lingering doubts.

[marcistar]

just elim me tbh, alot more people are wary of me than they are of greeting.
theres no way i would have a chance of doing well in the ~final stretch of the game~ if prohawk is left alive, along with the rest of u guyses lingering doubts.

If you're town, you honestly think me making it to endgame is better than you?

I'm pretty sure every person here has me in the lower tier category.

bestie ur still my fave xoxo its just ithink greeting shouldn't be the elim here. hes more helpful than me, so i would ratter i go if people were deciding on him :3

[marcistar]

I'm still baffled that you would rather elim yourself whom you know is town rather than eliminate an unknown despite how you read them (if you're town then Greeting IS an unknown to you)... Even the most solid town read still has a chance of flipping red.

yah i know im town, but everyone else doesnt know im town for sure so i feel like ill have a hard time in the next day, compared to greeting who i think will be able to make a good enough case on himself if hes town. i know im easy to scumread, and i know despite how much i could argue my case of me being town, i'll prob not get listened to.
i would rather my scumreads get elimmed here ofc, but if its not possible i think doing something better for the game state is a good move.

im trying to think if strangematter seems similar to this game, but i really dont know.. theres a bit of different circumstances.

VOTE: megazurmarill
im going back to this, im finer with this than prohawk rn.
<<megazurmarill, strangematter>> are my prefered elims here, i wont be moving anywhere else

originally yesterday i thought that strangematter choosing cabd > prohawk could've been a link, but its prob just getting out somebody whos likely to hella wreck the game. its prob just strangematter x megazurmarill.

[marcistar]

cuz im so cute its natural to wanna townread me

[marcistar]

: oooo MEGS GOT A GUN T_T

[marcistar]

VOTE: Prohawk

Strangematter is versatile in scum pairings but I think ProHawk’s scummier
We should make Prism proud and lim him

wtf just as i was starting to think hes town

[marcistar]

Prohawk can be town if its just marcistar and Greeting.
Marci's play today feels s/s with Greeting although I'm not for sure about it.

bestie pressed about being attacked

[marcistar]

whys meg town

[marcistar]

[marcistar]

Spoiler: marcistar

As I said on Day 1, loved everything about your start this game-the intentionality in putting yourself out there with a read that might be wrong, and leveraging that for reads and reactions out of others. You are developing into a stellar player, and I think the only point of feedback I have is something that you're already aware of: the level of activity afterwards. (I think the argument between myself and ProHawk likely sucked the air out of the room-but Day 2 on that was off the table)

thank you for doing advice for me and everyone else prism! you're so nice and helpful
i like generally dont like taking a lead on things and forcing things thru, but i was trying sumn a bit diff here d1 because i wanna develop those skills for when i feel the need to whip it out (lately ive been playing games where i feel the need to take control of town since nobody else will, but dont have the skills or confidence to do that in a helpful way)

i do agree with meuhs advice for you, its usually unhelpful ithink when people do tunneling like that.

This Newbie was a great source of joy for me, and I am deeply grateful that I got to play with all of you. Thank you all for playing with me, and I hope you had as much fun as I did.

thanks for playing with us prism! i had fun playing with u this game, and it was fun mostly : D I hope we'll get to play again soon.

with regards to the pt thing, fact that the post will link to the notes thread if you quote it from there is a somewhat well known thing, but it's unreasonable to assume that newcomers to the site would know about it. in my future newbie games, i will definitely point it out.

when the pt thing happened i didnt know what to think ahaha but when i checked one of greetings games and saw it was true someone had a notes pt i was like "reasonable enough explanation" and wanted something more juicy to sus him over

the scum thread is kinda funny, but ican see how strange thought i was a pr og ive been mistaken as a pr before