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What do you mean?In post 12, Frogsterking wrote:
Sounds a little far fetched!In post 10, Yeet wrote:My account name of “maozedong” was not accepted by the mods, so they told me to change the name of my account.- Yeet
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This seems quite a bit more far fetched than my original statement.In post 31, Frogsterking wrote:In post 22, skitter30 wrote:
What are you implying / was your initial vote serious?In post 12, Frogsterking wrote:
Sounds a little far fetched!In post 10, Yeet wrote:My account name of “maozedong” was not accepted by the mods, so they told me to change the name of my account.
I'm being serious I think the setup was delayed because it's balanced mechanically around a very powerful scum power role and the player who got this role never confirmed!In post 24, Frogsterking wrote:
I'm not joking! I think your slot is a scum power role who is required to be present or the game risks becoming mechanically unfair to the scum team.In post 14, Yeet wrote:Ah, yeah I will have to do that at some point. I’m currently on my phone in bed but I will do that the next time I get to a computer (will probably be tomorrow evening after work).
Why do you think that I would come out and fake this reason, as scum?- Yeet
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Now I think you are scum subliminally signaling to me that I have, in fact, made a good vote.
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I also don’t like 39. I don’t like the way Datisi is engaging the thread.In post 58, tenebrousluminary wrote:VOTE: Datisi
Post 39 feels unnatural to me.
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Thank you.
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If Datisi is scum then I’m not sure what to make of skitter30’s reaction.
You bring up a good point that she doesn’t even seem interested in Datisi’s alignment or why we are all pushing. I don’t think she says that about a partner so early. The plausible world to me is that if Datisi is town then skitter30 is scum whiteknighting Datisi.- Yeet
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skitter30, I don’t believe you are being consistent in your explanation.In post 83, skitter30 wrote:After readinf 71 multiple times, i actually dont think i got any clarity from it >.>
Why is it more believeable that me/dats would townbin you than for yeet to do the same thing?
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In other words i'm saying what dats has done thus far is neither townie nor scummy for him
I don’t believe that you would say that you’re not sure why people think Datisi is scum when you know exactly how he plays and believe this to be his town self.
You are assuming that we know him implicitly there. We do not know Datisi, so why would you expect us to have the same opinion on him with your knowledge?
You would’ve simply said that Datisi’s posts are “NAI”, without the part where you’re “not sure why people dislike him”.
It doesn’t make sense, it’s not a real read, and your approach to this whole thing feels like it’s not coming from a genuine solving headspace - rather it was feeble attempt to provide content and you felt the urge to white knight him.
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So again, if this was true, skitter30 would not have led with “idk why people dislike dats”.In post 104, skitter30 wrote:
Yes, basicallyIn post 96, DeasVail wrote:It's probably worth noting that I expect Skitter and Datisi have probably played with each other multiple times before and so I imagine Skitter thinks themselves able to read Datisi to greater degree of accuracy than other players in this game can read Datisi, which may explain their posting re: Datisi.- Yeet
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To be clear, this is the offending post. Something is wrong here. Maybe Datisi is town after all.In post 67, skitter30 wrote:In post 59, fireisredsir wrote:
getting people engaged in talking about thr game delay and who may be scum as a result of it is directly counterproductive to scumhunting bc it's dumb and is not going to result in anything usefulIn post 47, Frogsterking wrote:
42 fireisred trying to shut down scumhunting during start of day notedIn post 42, fireisredsir wrote:VOTE: frogsterking for making the first thread of serious conversation in this game be a really dumb one
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I mean while their approach is wrong, they did immediately give us something to talk abt and thus got the game moving, i dont think thats counterprodictive to scumhunting at all
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I'm not really sure why people are disliking dats thus far, he's been largely nai to me- Yeet
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I would like to know what you and fire think about tenebro’s post.In post 122, DeasVail wrote:
yeah that was not a great postIn post 119, fireisredsir wrote:
this is scumIn post 116, tenebrousluminary wrote:Yeet seems trustworthy and makes a good point. But I think I'll stick with my vote for now.
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This post feels salty. Like the kind of salty you feel to push back at someone for the sake of it when someone pushes at you. Whether or not it’s scummy I can’t say for sure. In fact it may be towny.In post 123, fireisredsir wrote:
i mean yours right after was kind of similar... the vibes aren't as bad but stillIn post 122, DeasVail wrote:
yeah that was not a great postIn post 119, fireisredsir wrote:
this is scumIn post 116, tenebrousluminary wrote:Yeet seems trustworthy and makes a good point. But I think I'll stick with my vote for now.
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The point was not that she suggested his posts are NAI - that is what I expect town skitter to do. And I’m sure she knew that part, regardless of what her alignment is. The point is that she started it with disbelief that he was getting pressure from players who don’t know him, knowing full well that she is using her experience with Datisi to sort him.In post 125, GeneralWu wrote:I don't think skitter is scummy for saying what she did about Datisi.
It sounds pretty normal to me. While not everyone here is completely familiar with Datisi's playstyle, I don't think it's scummy for skitter to suggest that Datisi's posts are NAI.
She saw an opportunity to make a read (fake content) that she would as town and slipped up in how she presented it.- Yeet
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To be clear:In post 146, skitter30 wrote:
'I'm not sure why X' to express disagreement is a very very common phrasing convention for meIn post 131, Yeet wrote:
The point was not that she suggested his posts are NAI - that is what I expect town skitter to do. And I’m sure she knew that part, regardless of what her alignment is. The point is that she started it with disbelief that he was getting pressure from players who don’t know him, knowing full well that she is using her experience with Datisi to sort him.In post 125, GeneralWu wrote:I don't think skitter is scummy for saying what she did about Datisi.
It sounds pretty normal to me. While not everyone here is completely familiar with Datisi's playstyle, I don't think it's scummy for skitter to suggest that Datisi's posts are NAI.
She saw an opportunity to make a read (fake content) that she would as town and slipped up in how she presented it.
I was basically saying that i disagree with the reasonings given for scumreading him at that point
“I’m not sure why people dislike Datisi” equates to “I disagree with the reasons others have presented for disliking Datisi?”- Yeet
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Yes, I agree with this sentiment.In post 152, DeasVail wrote:skitter, what did you think of 123? I thought it seemed a bit sassy to come from scum. The shade thrown gave me a very... relaxed impression?- Yeet
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skitter has spoken so I would like to hear what your T h o u g h t s were hereIn post 120, Datisi wrote:i have Thoughts but i should probably let skitt speak first before saying anything- Yeet
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It’s a mindset slip. I’m not saying she’s projecting that we know you.In post 169, Datisi wrote:
mostly that your case was nothing because she did not say she townread me and the "you are projecting that we know datisi therefore you are scum!?!?" was a huge stretchIn post 165, Yeet wrote:
skitter has spoken so I would like to hear what your T h o u g h t s were hereIn post 120, Datisi wrote:i have Thoughts but i should probably let skitt speak first before saying anything
But I’m not that interested in my old case anymore. If she insists that her common phrasing means something other than what I think it would more commonly mean, I will drop it for now because I don’t think she would lie about that as scum.
Which means, my vote goes back to youVote: Datisi- Yeet
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For anyone who is interested in the resolution of my earlier accusation on skitter, this seems to be the conclusion. My case is nothing if the above is true. Please let me know if you don’t understand something and would like to, otherwise I am ok moving on.In post 175, skitter30 wrote:
Yes, apologies if i phrased things poorlyIn post 153, Yeet wrote:To be clear:
“I’m not sure why people dislike Datisi” equates to “I disagree with the reasons others have presented for disliking Datisi?”- Yeet
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I have high confidence in my pushes. The real probability you are scum is probably being exaggerated by me but I can tell you with confidence when I think something leans a certain way.In post 180, Datisi wrote:
anyone who thinks they can lockscum me on page 2 is lying either to themselves or to everyone elseIn post 170, Yeet wrote:Datisi do you think I am meme-pushing you? Is that why you feel rather unaffected by my push on you? I can assure you that I am not memeing with this push on you.
you may not be meming but the push itself is a meme- Yeet
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In post 179, Yeet wrote:
It’s a mindset slip. I’m not saying she’s projecting that we know you.In post 169, Datisi wrote:
mostly that your case was nothing because she did not say she townread me and the "you are projecting that we know datisi therefore you are scum!?!?" was a huge stretchIn post 165, Yeet wrote:
skitter has spoken so I would like to hear what your T h o u g h t s were hereIn post 120, Datisi wrote:i have Thoughts but i should probably let skitt speak first before saying anything
But I’m not that interested in my old case anymore. If she insists that her common phrasing means something other than what I think it would more commonly mean, I will drop it for now because I don’t think she would lie about that as scum.
Which means, my vote goes back to youVote: Datisi@Mizzy, I am voting for Datisi.- Yeet
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Why do you think I am scum again?In post 483, GeneralWu wrote:Probably you and Yeet.- Yeet
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I don't feel that this was abnormal. You can check other people's readslists and see that they had similar opinions as well. I am very far from the best player in this game, these were simply my hunches at the time.In post 491, Eyes without a face wrote:
You must be the best player that ever played this game. 10 reads on page 8? Are you serious?In post 199, Yeet wrote:I am also leaving. I was about to go to sleep when I saw the day start and got excited. I have stayed past my bedtime for this and hope I don’t regret it.
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I've seen you use the "I don't think scum would do something as bad as X" a few times because you think they are "good" as scum. If you are town, I would caution against such logic personally. There is no objective standard for what is good or bad scumplay and ruling someone out as scum because of that leads to all sorts of wifom/considerations you're unaware of that they are/good scum can make mistakes too because townies don't actually know how to scumhunt as well as they think they do.In post 348, Datisi wrote:the second part of 207 feels like something that noob!scum says because they took a post too literally. but, i don't think it necessarily makes deasvail scum, since i think i recall someone calling him good at scum in that tm2021 game, and good scum isn't prone to such cognitive-overload mistakes
That's just my opinion.
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Please don't take it that way.In post 501, Eyes without a face wrote:
OK.. so I take it that I'm the worst player then, because while everyone is discerning reads I have no concrete feelings so far (in page 9) that I don't think I'd vote or defend anyone if my life depended on it.In post 208, Aristeia wrote:here is my way too early vibe list:
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yeet, frogster, fire, skitter, datisi, std
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Just because certain players can form hunches and opinions off of little content/few things, doesn't make them more accurate or more effective for town. If my hunches are <rand I am actually hurting town with my hunches rather than not having them at all. It is possible that being more immune to small things is good for your read accuracy, as the things you pick up on may more likely to be real tells.
Don't get too caught up in how other people form reads (except to get inside their head and see if it's a real process, if you're genuinely curious for sorting them).- Yeet
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I find this vote a bit odd. Is eyes really your strongest scumread out of everyone in the game off of just those two short posts?
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No, we don't "all" know that it's bullshit... why would you say that?In post 514, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
Still no response to the question but okay. We all know it's bullshit.In post 511, Aristeia wrote:I mean that's literally what you did?- Yeet
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I would like to know why you think Nero Cain is town.In post 515, Eyes without a face wrote:
This sounds more like the town nero I know. Nothing solid yet but a town lean.In post 288, Nero Cain wrote:I am tentatively at
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Thank you. I will reconsider on Datisi.In post 528, Aristeia wrote:
His reactions and thread presence feels unscripted and off the cuff. I expect scum him to be more planned out and careful in how he engages with the thread.In post 513, Yeet wrote:Aristeia, why do you think Datisi is town?
@Human I will take a look at that readslist again.- Yeet
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I am not sure what this entire sentence means.In post 523, VP Baltar wrote:Yeet - wild noob read after wild noob read. Somewhat question if Yeet is not an alt though, in which case maybe this means nothing.
I am alt of an account that I would prefer not to disclose. I have played a few games on this site. I don't believe I've played with anyone here, unless I one of them is/has an alt that I played with.- Yeet
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Bluffy in a scum way or a town way or equally likely to be either?In post 524, fireisredsir wrote:have kind of a hard time believing that monkey really thinks there's no way ari and datisi can be town here. this aggressive posturing feels a bit bluff-y to me- Yeet
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If someone told me to explain every single one of my 10 reads that I went out of my way to provide, I would also probably tell them to limit their request to a few.
I also had Save The Dragons as town, for the record, in my earlier readslist, so I'm also pleasantly surprised to see Aristeia coming to a similar conclusion. - Yeet
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