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[Captain Leela]

Pretty sure he's referring to Pere just getting hammered.

[iamausername]

[CooLDoG]

UNVOTE: Porochaz
VOTE: PeregrineV

... That was fucking stupid.

@UN, Grey has been misleading the town the whole game. My comments were referring to the fact that if he does it one more time then I will get on his ass about it. You are still more scummy.

[PeregrineV]

I'll work on a VCA (mostly just gathering them together) until the cow comes.

I'm a town 1-shot neighborizor.

Night 1 I targeted iamausername, mostly on the advice of team, and because deadline was approaching and I had no other candidates myself.
We spoke night 2.

The gist was I gave my scumreads (Jason, MoS, one of Slaxx/Grey), and he gave his (paraphrased):

Town=captain, slaxx, coolDog
Jason town unless Uber is scum
Uber is town
Thinks scum is in (Proz/MoS) and in (GreyIce/Pere).

I asked for elaboration on Slaxx=town, and also elaborated on items Uber/Delta (yes, Uber could/would bus) and Poroz.

My team pretty much has Iam as town. I remain undecided.

By the way, this lynch is way bad. I'd probably rant more, but I'll just say instead town needs to get off it's collective asses and which the actual scum instead of me.

[PeregrineV]

UNVOTE: Porochaz
VOTE: PeregrineV

So, I curious now, which post of mine made you end the game day with 12 days left? And why you were unable to do so yesterday?

I must have struck a nerve you didn't want hit?

[UberNinja]

PV the way I see it is you were controversial and had to go so that I can have peace of mind.

I'm actually beginning to think CoolDog might be scum regardless of my massively huge town read on him earlier. Mostly because the same thing happened with DeltaWave, but also thanks to these posts:

Really, WTF in regards to UN... its fucking punch myself in the face obvious...

If we lynch a townie today instead of uberninja grey ice is going to have hell to pay. And I mean hell to pay.

Who here is going to defend the circle jerk between UN/dw/greyice? Someone please do.

Really, WTF in regards to UN... its fucking punch myself in the face obvious...

If we lynch a townie today instead of uberninja grey ice is going to have hell to pay. And I mean hell to pay.

Who here is going to defend the circle jerk between UN/dw/greyice? Someone please do.

question:

why is GREYICE gonna have hell to pay instead of ME?

theoretically, if i was not lynched, and i was scum, then wouldn't i still be alive come dawn of the next day?

better work on your order of operations there Mr.

[PeregrineV]

Haylen

(4): UberNinja, GreyICE,

DeltaWave

,

Glork

Glork

(3): Porochaz,

Slaxx

,

Haylen

Slaxx

(1): iamausername
Captain Murasa(1):

PeregrineV

iamausername(1): jasonT1981
Porochaz(1): CooLDoG

Not Voting: Mastermind of Sin, Captain Murasa

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Haylen

(3): UberNinja, GreyICE,

DeltaWave

Glork

(2): Porochaz,

Haylen

Uberninja(2): iamausername,

Glork

Captain Murasa(1):

PeregrineV

Porochaz(1): CooLDoG
GreyICE(1): Captain Murasa

Not Voting: Mastermind of Sin, jasonT1981,

Slaxx

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Haylen

(4): UberNinja, GreyICE,

DeltaWave

, iamausername
Captain Murasa(2):

PeregrineV

, Porochaz
Uberninja(2):

Haylen

, CooLDoG
GreyICE(1): Captain Murasa

Slaxx

(1): jasonT1981

PeregrineV

(1):

Glork

Not Voting: Mastermind of Sin,

Slaxx

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Haylen

(4): UberNinja, GreyICE,

DeltaWave

, iamausername
Captain Murasa(3):

PeregrineV

, Porochaz, jasonT1981
Uberninja(2):

Haylen

, CooLDoG
jasonT1981(1): Captain Murasa
iamausername(1):

Glork

Not Voting: Mastermind of Sin,

Slaxx

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Haylen

[/color](5): UberNinja,

DeltaWave

, iamausername,

Glork

, GreyICE

Glork

(2):

Haylen

, Porochaz
Captain Murasa(2):

PeregrineV

, jasonT1981
Uberninja(1): CooLDoG
jasonT1981(1): Captain Murasa

Not Voting: Mastermind of Sin,

Slaxx

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Haylen

(4): UberNinja,

DeltaWave

, iamausername, GreyICE

Glork

(2):

Haylen

, Porochaz
Captain Murasa(1): jasonT1981
Uberninja(1): CooLDoG
jasonT1981(1): Captain Murasa
GreyICE(1):

PeregrineV

DeltaWave

(1):

Glork

Not Voting: Mastermind of Sin,

Slaxx

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Haylen

[/color](3):

DeltaWave

, iamausername, GreyICE

DeltaWave

[/color](3):

Glork

, jasonT1981, Captain Murasa

Glork

(2):

Haylen

, Porochaz
Uberninja(1): CooLDoG
GreyICE(1):

PeregrineV

Mastermind of Sin(1): UberNinja


Not Voting: Mastermind of Sin,

Slaxx

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Haylen

(4):

DeltaWave

, iamausername, GreyICE,

PeregrineV

DeltaWave

(3):

Glork

, jasonT1981, Captain Murasa

Glork

(2):

Haylen

, Porochaz
Uberninja(1): CooLDoG
Mastermind of Sin(1): UberNinja

Not Voting: Mastermind of Sin,

Slaxx

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

DeltaWave

(4):

Glork

, jasonT1981, Captain Murasa, Mastermind of Sin

Haylen

(3): iamausername, GreyICE,

PeregrineV

Glork

(3):

Haylen

, UberNinja,

DeltaWave

Uberninja(1): CooLDoG

Not Voting:

Slaxx

, Porochaz

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

DeltaWave

(4):

Glork

, jasonT1981, Captain Murasa, Mastermind of Sin

Haylen

(3): iamausername, GreyICE,

PeregrineV

Glork

(3):

Haylen

, UberNinja,

DeltaWave

Uberninja(1): CooLDoG

Not Voting:

Slaxx

, Porochaz

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Haylen

(5): iamausername, GreyICE,

PeregrineV

, UberNinja,

Slaxx

DeltaWave

(4):

Glork

, jasonT1981, Captain Murasa, CooLDoG

Glork

(2):

Haylen

,

DeltaWave

Captain Murasa(1): Mastermind of Sin

Not Voting: Porochaz

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Haylen

(5): iamausername, GreyICE,

PeregrineV

, UberNinja,

Slaxx

DeltaWave

(4):

Glork

, jasonT1981, Captain Murasa, CooLDoG

Glork

(2):

Haylen

,

DeltaWave

Captain Murasa(1): Mastermind of Sin
Uberninja(1): Porochaz

Not Voting:

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Haylen

(7): iamausername, GreyICE,

PeregrineV

, UberNinja,

Slaxx

,

DeltaWave

,

Glork

DeltaWave

(4): jasonT1981, Captain Murasa, CooLDoG, Mastermind of Sin

Glork

(1):

Haylen

Uberninja(1): Porochaz

Uberninja(2): CooLDoG, Mastermind of Sin

DeltaWave

(1): Captain Murasa

Not Voting: Porochaz, iamausername, GreyICE,

PeregrineV

, UberNinja,

Slaxx

,

DeltaWave

, jasonT1981
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Uberninja(2): CooLDoG, Captain Murasa

PeregrineV

(2): GreyICE, Porochaz

Not Voting: iamausername,

PeregrineV

, UberNinja,

Slaxx

,

DeltaWave

, jasonT1981, Mastermind of Sin
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Uberninja(2): CooLDoG, Captain Murasa

PeregrineV

(1): GreyICE
Captain Murasa(1): jasonT1981
Mastermind of Sin(1): Porochaz

Not Voting: iamausername,

PeregrineV

, UberNinja,

Slaxx

,

DeltaWave

, Mastermind of Sin
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Uberninja(2): CooLDoG, Captain Murasa
Captain Murasa(2): jasonT1981, GreyICE
Mastermind of Sin(1): Porochaz
CooLDoG(1):

DeltaWave

Not Voting: iamausername,

PeregrineV

, UberNinja,

Slaxx

, Mastermind of Sin
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Uberninja(3): CooLDoG, Captain Murasa, Porochaz
Porochaz(2): GreyICE, UberNinja
Captain Murasa(1): jasonT1981
CooLDoG(1):

DeltaWave

DeltaWave

(1): iamausername
iamausername(1): Mastermind of Sin

Not Voting:

PeregrineV

,

Slaxx

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Uberninja(3): CooLDoG, Captain Leela, Porochaz
Porochaz(3): GreyICE, UberNinja,

DeltaWave

DeltaWave

(1): iamausername
iamausername(1): Mastermind of Sin
Mastermind of Sin(1):

PeregrineV

Not Voting:

Slaxx

, jasonT1981
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Porochaz(3): GreyICE, UberNinja,

DeltaWave

Uberninja(2): CooLDoG, Porochaz

DeltaWave

(2): iamausername, Captain Leela
iamausername(1): Mastermind of Sin
Mastermind of Sin(1):

PeregrineV

Not Voting:

Slaxx

, jasonT1981
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Porochaz(3): GreyICE, UberNinja,

DeltaWave

Uberninja(2): CooLDoG, Porochaz

DeltaWave

(2): iamausername, Captain Leela
iamausername(1): Mastermind of Sin
Mastermind of Sin(1):

PeregrineV

Not Voting:

Slaxx

, jasonT1981
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Porochaz(2): GreyICE,

DeltaWave

Uberninja(2): CooLDoG, Porochaz

DeltaWave

(2): Captain Leela, iamausername
iamausername(2): Mastermind of Sin, UberNinja
Mastermind of Sin(1):

PeregrineV

Not Voting:

Slaxx

, jasonT1981
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Porochaz(2): GreyICE,

DeltaWave

Uberninja(2): CooLDoG, Porochaz

DeltaWave

(2): Captain Leela, iamausername
iamausername(2): Mastermind of Sin, UberNinja
Mastermind of Sin(1):

PeregrineV

Not Voting:

Slaxx

, jasonT1981
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Porochaz(2): GreyICE,

DeltaWave

UberNinja(2): CooLDoG, Porochaz

DeltaWave

(2): Captain Leela, iamausername

PeregrineV

(2):

Slaxx

, UberNinja
iamausername(1): Mastermind of Sin
Mastermind of Sin(1):

PeregrineV

Not Voting: jasonT1981
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

PeregrineV

(3):

Slaxx

, UberNinja, iamausername
Porochaz(2): GreyICE,

DeltaWave

UberNinja(2): CooLDoG, Porochaz

DeltaWave

(1): Captain Leela
iamausername(1): Mastermind of Sin
Mastermind of Sin(1):

PeregrineV

Not Voting: jasonT1981
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

PeregrineV

(3):

Slaxx

, UberNinja, iamausername
Porochaz(2): GreyICE,

DeltaWave

UberNinja(2): CooLDoG, Porochaz

DeltaWave

(1): Captain Leela
iamausername(1): Mastermind of Sin
Mastermind of Sin(1):

PeregrineV

Not Voting: jasonT1981
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Porochaz(2): GreyICE, UberNinja
UberNinja(2): CooLDoG, Porochaz
Mastermind of Sin(2):

PeregrineV

,

DeltaWave

PeregrineV

(1): iamausername

DeltaWave

(1): Captain Leela
iamausername(1): Mastermind of Sin

Not Voting: jasonT1981,

Slaxx

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

DeltaWave

(3): Captain Leela, iamausername, UberNinja
UberNinja(2): CooLDoG, Porochaz
Mastermind of Sin(2):

PeregrineV

,

DeltaWave

iamausername(1): Mastermind of Sin

Not Voting: jasonT1981,

Slaxx

, GreyICE
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

DeltaWave

(4): Captain Leela, iamausername, UberNinja, jasonT1981
UberNinja(3): CooLDoG, Porochaz,

DeltaWave

Mastermind of Sin(1):

PeregrineV

iamausername(1): Mastermind of Sin

Not Voting:

Slaxx

, GreyICE
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

DeltaWave

(6): Captain Leela, iamausername, UberNinja, jasonT1981, CooLDoG, Porochaz

UberNinja(1):

DeltaWave

Mastermind of Sin(1):

PeregrineV

iamausername(1): Mastermind of Sin

Not Voting:

Slaxx

, GreyICE
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

PeregrineV

(2): Mastermind of Sin, jasonT1981
UberNinja(2): CooLDoG, Porochaz
Porochaz(2): iamausername, UberNinja

Not voting: GreyICE,

PeregrineV

, Captain Leela

PeregrineV

(3): Mastermind of Sin, jasonT1981, GreyICE
Porochaz(3): iamausername, UberNinja, Captain Leela
UberNinja(2): CooLDoG, Porochaz

Not voting:

PeregrineV

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

[PeregrineV]

PV the way I see it is you were controversial and had to go so that I can have peace of mind.

Really? So the game isn't about winning, it's about your peace of mind?!?

Perhaps someone should update the wiki and Newbie games, since they are doing it all wrong...

---

I'm actually beginning to think CoolDog might be scum regardless of my massively huge town read on him earlier. Mostly because the same thing happened with DeltaWave, but also thanks to these posts:

Really, WTF in regards to UN... its fucking punch myself in the face obvious...

If we lynch a townie today instead of uberninja grey ice is going to have hell to pay. And I mean hell to pay.

Who here is going to defend the circle jerk between UN/dw/greyice? Someone please do.

Really, WTF in regards to UN... its fucking punch myself in the face obvious...

If we lynch a townie today instead of uberninja grey ice is going to have hell to pay. And I mean hell to pay.

Who here is going to defend the circle jerk between UN/dw/greyice? Someone please do.

question:

why is GREYICE gonna have hell to pay instead of ME?

theoretically, if i was not lynched, and i was scum, then wouldn't i still be alive come dawn of the next day?

better work on your order of operations there Mr.

Hey as long as you have peace of mind, that's what counts.

My team thinks CoolDog is scum. I don't think so, but I don't really know. And I'm dead.

[UberNinja]

Why do they think CoolDog is scum?

[PeregrineV]

Why do they think CoolDog is scum?

Zar quotes
170
171
253
307 as his reasons.

Isa says scummy vibes and 747

[CooLDoG]

Uberninja are you really going to base your scum read off of one post instead of 57 pages of "solid town read on cooldog"?

[UberNinja]

Interesting. Is there any indication that CoolDog tries harder as scum than as town?

Because I have seen that a lot of people do; they don't care about town games because they happen all the time, but scum games which are less frequent, are more of a treat and so they do their best to appear pro-town.

Also, does he have a meta of being THIS FUCKING DUMB? because that's also a possibility; he's being dumb in order to be discounted as a complete idiot, so nobody will suspect he could possibly be devious like that.

It'd also explain me getting left alive last night and the night before: I had a town read on them both, and CoolDog would probably think he could lynch me.

And in a game with personalities like this: Glork, MoS, iama, Haylen, myself -- it'd be just that much easier to get written off as "totally fucking stupid townie" when in reality you're dancing for joy on the inside because you're a dirty dirty scumsucking son of a bitch.

[UberNinja]

Uberninja are you really going to base your scum read off of one post instead of 57 pages of "solid town read on cooldog"?

....




...aaaand, this post just made up my mind for me.

CoolDog dies tomorrow.

No fucking buts.

[UberNinja]

btw, I'll probably die tonight so... later, everyone.

[Porochaz]

And in a game with personalities like this: Glork, MoS, iama, Haylen, myself -- it'd be just that much easier to get written off as "totally fucking stupid townie" when in reality you're dancing for joy on the inside because you're a dirty dirty scumsucking son of a bitch.

Post segment of the game.

[CooLDoG]

Interesting. Is there any indication that CoolDog tries harder as scum than as town?

Because I have seen that a lot of people do; they don't care about town games because they happen all the time, but scum games which are less frequent, are more of a treat and so they do their best to appear pro-town.

Also, does he have a meta of being THIS FUCKING DUMB? because that's also a possibility; he's being dumb in order to be discounted as a complete idiot, so nobody will suspect he could possibly be devious like that.

It'd also explain me getting left alive last night and the night before: I had a town read on them both, and CoolDog would probably think he could lynch me.

And in a game with personalities like this: Glork, MoS, iama, Haylen, myself -- it'd be just that much easier to get written off as "totally fucking stupid townie" when in reality you're dancing for joy on the inside because you're a dirty dirty scumsucking son of a bitch.

I have a meta of being fucking dumb. Also, I have played so many scum games recently that I was drawn to team mafia because I could choose to be town and not be forced to be scum for the 7th time in a row. But what ever, you are going down tomorrow, no questions asked. If we loose this game it is because we failed to lynch you.

Anyway, let's wait for the flip.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I think it's hilarious that PeregrineV doesn't seem all that suspicious that his "neighbor"-buddy iam is the one who hammered him...

Also, town-MoS is the only one that bothers with VCAs (and rarely at that), as far as I'm aware. This is a rather extreme example (as I usually don't give this much of a fuck or have the time to go this in-depth), but here's the proof you wanted, cuz I'm feeling generous.

You'll want to note the following sentence from that post:

Even though I rarely resort to this as a scumhunting tactic, I don't feel like I have a good read on anyone especially as a replacement myself, so let's look at the voting patterns to see if anything important comes up

This applies especially much in games where I don't give a fuck enough to actually put a ton of effort into game analysis. I'll let you all answer for yourselves whether or not you think I'm putting effort into this game.

For the record, Bunnylover, Mykonian, StrangerCoug, and Nocmen all ended up being scum, and that I was the one who caught them (despite marking Bunny/myko as most town at the beginning of that post). So anyone who thinks town-MoS doesn't change his mind drastically whenever he fucking feels like it can go fuck themselves.

That said, I think there is a 60% chance that PeregrineV is scum bullshitting us (and may even be a scum neighborizer), because there is absolutely no way after the last two days that anyone town could possibly think I'm a good scum candidate in this game. I'm still pretty happy with this lynch, especially since he only came out with his claim AFTER the guy he claims to have neighborized hammered him...lol!

Also, Jason/MoS/SlaxxOrGrey scumteam is super lulz and if PV was actually town he should probably just quit now because he hasn't been ahead for a while...that said, you're more than welcome to spam the thread with as much afterthought as you want. We'll find out soon enough if it's actually worth reading. Then I might come back to it...but probably not.

[hasdgfas]

PeregrineV(5): Mastermind of Sin, jasonT1981, GreyICE, UberNinja, iamausername
UberNinja(2): CooLDoG, Porochaz
Porochaz(1): Captain Leela

Not voting: PeregrineV

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The town had barely started discussing anything, when suddenly, over half the town pointed at PeregrineV. Since it seemed everyone was agreed, they found a tree and strung him up as soon as they could. In his pockets was a small bottle of wine with a note that said "for our night chats". However, that was all. No guns, no notes from the mafia, nothing. Just wine.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

PeregrineV, Town 1-shot Neighborizer, lynched Day 3

It is now Night 3. Night deadline will be posted once I know it.

[hasdgfas]

Night Deadline is Sunday, June 10

[hasdgfas]

With such a quickly-concluded day yesterday, everyone had gone off to their houses to prepare for the next day. However, one person stood around the square. UberNinja preferred staying outside to think. The scenery was better, and having something nice to look at is the best way to facilitate thinking.

However, from far off in the distance, a little *tink* was heard. Shortly thereafter, UberNinja toppled over. The next morning, the rest of the town found him there, with a peaceful smile on his face. They couldn't find anything special in his pockets though. The town was visibly nervous. They saw that there weren't many of them left. They had to start getting it right.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

UberNinja, Townie, killed night 3

It is now Day 4. With 7 alive, it will take 4 to lynch.

Deadline is provisionally June 25. I will post confirmation or any change to that once I get it.

[CooLDoG]

An interesting night kill to say the least. We are in lylo, correct?

[iamausername]

OK, everybody: Massclaim? Y/N

(the correct answer is Y)

We are in lylo, correct?

What makes you say that?

[jasonT1981]

I have no issue with claiming... however I will point out, with 7 alive, and 1 scum gone, today should not be LyLo based on a normal 3 person scum team. With 1 already down, that leaves 2... meaning we actually do have another day before we are in that situation at worst case. (assuming it is the normal 3 person scum team for a 13p game)

[iamausername]

(assuming it is the normal 3 person scum team for a 13p game)

6. Explicitly Allowed: You may mention who is on each team. You may mention what stage (e.g. Day 2) a game is in. You may mention how many players are left alive from a team, including your own. You may mention how many scum have been killed/alive in a particular game (or town alive/killed), knowing that

all games are 10v3 or 9v3

. You may talk as much as you wish about a game that is finished.

[jasonT1981]

OK, so that answers it then, we are not in LyLo.