D.N. Does Star Wars (Town Victory)

[BBmolla]

Hi.

Will reread when I can.

[BBmolla]

brb rereadan

[BBmolla]

I will read the thread and post some thoughts soon. I promise.

If I delay another day or so, I'll request replacement so I stop wasting all of your time.

[BBmolla]

Fennin/BBMolla = breadcrumb of Yoda, which has still not been explained to my satisfaction.

Why does it matter

[BBmolla]

Fennin/BBMolla = breadcrumb of Yoda, which has still not been explained to my satisfaction.

Why does it matter

He breadcrumbed his role name, not his role. Why would you breadcrumb your role name and not your role?

Why does it matter unless you're trying to rolefish?

[BBmolla]

Fennin/BBMolla = breadcrumb of Yoda, which has still not been explained to my satisfaction.

Why does it matter

He breadcrumbed his role name, not his role. Why would you breadcrumb your role name and not your role?

Why does it matter unless you're trying to rolefish?

A person's rolename doesn't say anything about their alignment, so it makes little sense to crumb it. The only logical reason to do so would be if scum lack confirmed fakeclaims and fakeclaim a town player's rolename, but town are unlikely to infer that to be the case, since it is against site meta.

On the other hand, crumbing one's gamerole is relevant to action claims down the line.

Iecerint thinks that is the point.

Iecerint is correct. Yoda is "good guy" in star Wars universe, so you would crumb that to cause doubt in the minds of readers.
But rolename has no bearing on alignment.

So why do it?

Hint: Scum

Well, you see, Yoda is a very important person. That is relevent to this game because I am Yoda and my skills are very important.

To me it seems like you're saying "THAT GUY BREAD CRUMBED COP, BUT IN THIS GAME COP CAN BE EITHER ALIGNMENT. WHY WOULD HE DO THAT? HINT: SCUM" Can you see why this seems like role fishing to me?

And yes, I'm Yoda. Congrats.

He breadcrumbed his role name, not his role. Why would you breadcrumb your role name and not your role?

^Which is why this makes no sense. My role name is my role.

[BBmolla]

Peregrine, do you have a seperate role name and role?

Example: "Boba Fett, the cop" or just "Boba Fett"
Because mine is the latter, but your quote indicates it should be the former which is why I'm so confused.

[BBmolla]

I know why but I'd have to fullclaim all my powers. And it'd defeat the purpose of his plan.

[BBmolla]

i am not asking you to claim..please don't yet...
but umm... did he leave a little plan of attack behind for you? how would you know what HIS plan is/was?

He didn't leave anything for me, it's just pretty obvious for me to see what he was trying to accomplish.

[BBmolla]

If we decide to start a wagon on me, let me claim what I can do as Yoda so I can shut that wagon down swiftly.

[BBmolla]

Fennin/BBMolla = breadcrumb of Yoda, which has still not been explained to my satisfaction.

Why does it matter

He breadcrumbed his role name, not his role. Why would you breadcrumb your role name and not your role?

^Take huge note of this, my PM only has one name. This is possibly a scumslip.

Unless anyone else has a role and role name, which if they do they should speak up.

[BBmolla]

So I just realized why I hate rereading this game so much, and it's because there are no avatars saved in the cache. So I'm gonna put in avatars and reread.

[BBmolla]

Shit never mind doesn't work, the image cache refreshes each page.

Damnit.

[BBmolla]

SoO, I am the new Kurtis. A pleasure to make your acquaintance and all that. I took a slight peek at the cache'd game, but the lack of ISO ability makes trying to find what Kurtis said among the clutter rough. I'd prefer to look at who is playing now rather than try to sort through replacements in the cache as well. From what I can see, Kurtis had an issue understanding that crumbing one's role name in a DeathNote game is inherently scummy.

^scum.

Town has zero reason to care what former them said unless specifically asked.

[BBmolla]

Bro I haven't even been in the game for more than a week, what are you talking about.

[BBmolla]

Why does it matter what Kurtis said?

[BBmolla]

It's k I forgive you.

There is only two things you will obtain from rereading him as town.
1) You will see if he claimed.
2) You will see if he did anything dumb.

Both will become fairly obvious by just posting in the thread.

It's become quite apparent to me, for example, that Fennin managed to do both and I didn't read a single post of his.

[BBmolla]

Ok, recent activity shows me that PeregrineV has made a full page of posts all over site but is dodging this thread and answering what is needed from him.

I can't stand that.

UNVOTE: WrathChild
VOTE: PeregrineV

Why him over me?

[BBmolla]

Oh that's right, PV is rolefishing this game, I forgot.

[BBmolla]

He breadcrumbed his role name, not his role. Why would you breadcrumb your role name and not your role?

What was the point of this question if you only have a role name?

[BBmolla]

Ok, recent activity shows me that PeregrineV has made a full page of posts all over site but is dodging this thread and answering what is needed from him.

I can't stand that.

UNVOTE: WrathChild
VOTE: PeregrineV

Why him over me?

And I answered that.

I know why but I'd have to fullclaim all my powers. And it'd defeat the purpose of his plan.

Now, do you want to rolefish and have me tell you, or will you stop being anti-town and move on?

[BBmolla]

You probably have screwed it up already tbh. Congrats.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: PeregrineV

His rolefishing is fake scumhunting, there is no town reason to pursue that thing specifically this much.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: PeregrineV

His rolefishing is fake scumhunting, there is no town reason to pursue that thing specifically this much.

I'll say it again. In a theme game, certain characters have connotations of good and bad. The mod even says that even though a character is good or bad in the star wars universe, it has no bearing on their alignment this game.

However, despite that, Fenrin breadcrumbed Yoda, who is a good guy in the star wars universe.

Given that the mod stated that a characters goodness/badness in the star wars universe is not relevant to this game, what is the town motivation to breadcrumb?
What is the scum motivation?

Now, I will answer.

The town motivation is none, since your claim will be believed or disbelieved on the merits of your play at the time you actually make the claim.

The scum motivation is that because the character is a good guy in the star wars universe, you will breadcrumb the good guy role in the hopes that come claim time, you can point back and say, "see, I'm Yoda, a good guy! I hinted back in post 1!" hoping that that will weigh more in the mind of the audience than the mod's admonition that it has no bearing on alignment in this game.

Does this make sense? If not, explain how you are confused and I will try and clear it up for you.

The town motivation is that the Yoda breadcrumb was intended for Mafia to notice and make a big deal out of, not town. Because Town shouldn't care about his role because Yoda doesn't mean anything to them. However, Yoda is scary to mafia, because they know he's not on their team and that he's probably pretty powerful.

[BBmolla]

You know that this is? A bona-fide slip.

Free internet cookies to anyone who can point out why.

He somehow knows there is only one scum team.

[BBmolla]

I'm tempted to claim, my plan won't work anyway, and I want whoever is town and pursued my wagon to feel like a dumbass.

[BBmolla]

@BBMolla- No one wants you claim. And I find your crumbing excuse lacking.

"I don't want you to claim. I find the fact that you're not claiming to explain your breadcrumb unsatisfactory."

[BBmolla]

I'm so sick of your passive bullshit. I'm claiming.

I'm Yoda, and if I'm correct, I'm

unkillable

. I have an active that deflects blaster shots and a passive that renders force powers useless.

It's really fucking obvious to me that Fennin was attempting to draw the night kill, or at least, that's the most obvious reason I can see.

So congrats, really, you sure fucked that plan up.

[BBmolla]

Feel free to either back off or keep pushing, I'm still gonna try to lynch your scum ass.

[BBmolla]

...explain to me the point of this type of ability being an active ability when you have no other active abilities?

I also can attract people to me, but I felt that wasn't as relevent.

What other ways can people die? Do you think Mafia use lightsabers or something?

[BBmolla]

Force pull, active, I choose one player and they are forced to target me.
Immune Force, passive, force powers don't harm me.
Deflect, active, prevents blasters from harming me.

I guaruntee that if I'm lynched it is going to be pushed through by scum.

[BBmolla]

BB should have said: "Having seen BB's role, there is a good reason why Fennin did what he did. It will become clear when BBMolla claims."

I know why but I'd have to fullclaim all my powers. And it'd defeat the purpose of his plan.

i am not asking you to claim..please don't yet...
but umm... did he leave a little plan of attack behind for you? how would you know what HIS plan is/was?

He didn't leave anything for me, it's just pretty obvious for me to see what he was trying to accomplish.

Ice are you reading my posts?

Shmugen I have zero clue what you're referring to, stop being a cryptic douche and say what you mean.

Slan why would my claim be scum?

[BBmolla]

For you slow people, the most likely plan was like this(I haven't reread, so I'm just pulling this out of my ass.)

1. Breadcrumb Yoda
2. Have mafia notice because TOWN SHOULDN'T GIVE TWO FUCKS
3. Have mafia oanic "Omg he claimed yoda he must be powerful, kill him"
4. No night kill
5. Claim?

Probably some shit like that.

[BBmolla]

can you explain to me the sense in having a protown role which cant be killed except via lynch which wouldnt happen because you are protown?

To draw a night kill?

I really don't know bro I don't have any idea what the rest of the setup is like.

Don't you think it'd be even

more

overpowered as scum?

Correction real quick, Immune Force makes it so powers can not

target

me. I somehow misread. My Deflect ability prevents blasters from harming me, I'm assuming I must have mixed them.

That means that my role, in better terms(assuming I don't use the Force Pull active), is

Unlimited Bulletproof Reflexive Roleblocker

.

If scum had this role, I'd quit. It'd not only be a Godfather and a Ninja, it'd be immune to Vigs.

That'd be unbelievably overpowered and extremely unrealistic for scum to have.

[BBmolla]

The above post assumes that normal abilities(Cop, Doc, Tracker) are force powers, please correct me if that's wrong. Or don't. Idc.

[BBmolla]

Blame PeregrineV.

I've posted all that I was told except for my win condition, which indicates I'm town but does not explicitly say it.

[BBmolla]

@BB: Firstly, you're a moron if you think any game with this amount of testers would have a role that was unkillable all by themselves. I could see them perhaps missing some strange combo, but all by yourself? Really? I don't know what 'cryptic douche' things I was saying, it was quite clear. Ironically enough, BB, I think you've succeeded. I think you're town, and I think you are going to draw the night kill. The problem is your assumption that all scum kills are going to be force related. Sure, they probably had some, but now they are going to choose their non-force related kill methods. You say to blame PeregrinV, I say you have no one to blame but yourself for losing your temper. You have the scum saying this:

I have no issues with being night killed. Stops more important PRs from being killed. I don't believe i'll be killed though, too many folks are like "OMG YOU'RE LYING" for that to happen.

And I'm only unkillable if I don't use force pull.

[BBmolla]

What is there to respond to?

I also can attract people to me, but I felt that wasn't as relevent.

This looks very much like you messed up and tried to revise your claim after getting called on it. Also:

I know why but I'd have to fullclaim

all

my powers. And it'd defeat the purpose of his plan.

Whoops?

Next time I'll make sure to specific "I know why, but I'd have to fullclaim two out of my three powers, one of which is useless to the reasoning that I believe contributes to his breadcrumbing of the situation."

If you seriously think this is a slip or something you are a fool.

What other ways can people die? Do you think Mafia use lightsabers or something?

I have no idea, but there is no reason to assume blaster fire and force powers are the only way. Especially given that flavor name doesn't imply alignment in this game, why shouldn't mafia have someone who could use lightsabers or whatever other method to kill?

I don't know, it seems logical flavor wise, I can't think of any other weapons besides Blasters, Force, and Lightsabers. I guess we'll find out won't we.

[BBmolla]

This isn't as ridiculous as you are trying to make it sound. If you had simply said, "I know why, but I'd have to claim", there wouldn't be an issue. However, you used the words "fullclaim" and "all". That's pretty much my point here.

Nope, there would be an issue, because you'd say "WAIT YOU HAVE NO ROLE NAME, WHAT DO YOU MEAN CLAIM? WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY CLAIM YOUR POWERS? BOTCHED FAKE CLAIM GG WP NO RE"

MoI I love you, you're like a glimpse of sanity within this game.

Shmugen remember that my immunity to blaster fire is an active. So it only works if I don't use force pull.

[BBmolla]

This isn't as ridiculous as you are trying to make it sound. If you had simply said, "I know why, but I'd have to claim", there wouldn't be an issue. However, you used the words "fullclaim" and "all". That's pretty much my point here.

Nope, there would be an issue, because you'd say "WAIT YOU HAVE NO ROLE NAME, WHAT DO YOU MEAN CLAIM? WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY CLAIM YOUR POWERS? BOTCHED FAKE CLAIM GG WP NO RE"

MoI I love you, you're like a glimpse of sanity within this game.

Shmugen remember that my immunity to blaster fire is an active. So it only works if I don't use force pull.

Did you find out what caused Fenrin to spill his guts?

You'll need to quote, I didn't bother reading what Fennin did, scumhunting off of what's happening now seems to be working goodenough for me.

[BBmolla]

@BB you should have left it alone right here:

He didn't leave anything for me, it's just pretty obvious for me to see what he was trying to accomplish.

that was plenty....

If so, ask Peregrine why he kept fishing.

[BBmolla]

Why are you so afraid of being wagoned?

I thought we were near deadline when I posted(3-4 days). Deadline lynches suck balls. I could be wrong.

[BBmolla]

I flip town. What are Peregrine and Shmugen?

[BBmolla]

1. Why did you specifically use the words "fullclaim" and "all"? This is not just semantics, this is an outright contradiction if you can't explain this.
2. Why did you think being immune to "force powers" made you bulletproof (and no, saying "I thought it was logical" is not an answer because any reasonable person can see that you can't conclude this)?

1. Because normally I just claim my role so I'd say "I'd need to claim role," but because that wouldn't work I decided to use "I'd need to fullclaim all my abilities." Force Pull doesn't matter all that much, but if I'm claiming the other two there isn't really a reason not to claim it. It also makes sense synergy-wise with my abilities.
2. I'm assuming "force powers" are normal powers(Cop/Doc/Vig/etc). I thought Mafia night kill would probably be blasters(in addition to town night kill obv). If I use my active, I think I'm bulletproof. My passive is reflexive roleblocker.

It is just semantics.

[BBmolla]

I have an easier explanation:
Step 1: BBmolla claims to be unkillable
Step 2: He lied
Step 3: Lynch him

Where did I lie.

[BBmolla]

@Briz- Honestly, I expected him to tell the truth, not go batshit ape crazy and claim. This is a forum game. If you get that upset, take a walk and come back when you're calmer. And while I'm still out overall on BBMolla, I don;t want to lynch him today.

...

I

did

tell the truth. In the only way I could. Which was by claiming. Which is what you asked for.

[BBmolla]

Also I wouldn't call myself "extremely active," I've only had 14 posts since my last one, most of them having to do with non-game-related content.

I'm on the PeregrineV wagon and am happy with it.

Lynching me today is completely stupid as has been discussed. Look elsewhere bucko.

Maybe if you're lucky, Mafia kill with sticks and I don't have stick protection and I'll die tonight. Man you'll sure have showed me how dumb I was for claiming.

[BBmolla]

Kdub, why

don't

you believe my claim?

[BBmolla]

He has no good answers for the issues with his claim, he reacted in a very evasive and dismissive way to questioning,

Quotes please, I've responded to every question I've seen(90% of them are the same dumb question.)

[BBmolla]

Kdub doesn't know what sarcasm is.

Is he dumb or scum?

[BBmolla]

Another evasion. You're doing a great job racking those up. And sarcasm aside, you continue to refuse to acknowledge that your explanation for Fennin's play is bogus.

How so?

[BBmolla]

...You still think I'm scum based off of my claim?

What is wrong with you? I just didn't mention an irrelevent ability when I first claimed, why the hell are you so bent on my claim being wrong? Do you really think I could come in here, make up a totally fake claim without reading the game, insist my fake claim was what my replacee was going to accomplish despite me not even knowing what my replacee had done, and then claim it without claiming one ability because I'm retarded? Like, what the hell is your plausible explanation here bro?

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: BBmolla

Going to keep my vote here in case this gets traction. If not, I will switch at the deadline.

...You still think I'm scum based off of my claim?

The problems with your claim on top of Fennin's previous scumminess was the original reason I voted you, but your continued evasiveness has contributed to strengthening my scum read on you. You still have not addressed the contradiction I quoted. You spent several posts avoiding my questions and trying to turn mostly irrelevant questions on me instead. Your activity has dropped and you have done zero scumhunting since I started attacking you. Stop acting like a victim here, your reactions are not town in the slightest.

Don't even know what you're referring to. Forgive me for not even recalling what it is. I haven't had time to scumhunt.

For the last time, BB only claimed immunity to blasters and force powers. Unless you know the scum kill methods fall under these categories, then he is not bulletproof.

Please name three other possible and plausible scum kill methods.

[BBmolla]

The bolded is what you said, yet it is not what you did when you claimed. You left out the Force Pull claim. That is the contradiction I am talking about.

I claimed it 8 posts later. It's clear that my thought process wasn't "I'm going to claim two and hide this one." it's "These are my abilities and why he breadcrumbed you twats! Oh yeah, forgot, this less important ability too that I feel fine claiming because I don't care."

Yet you've had time to scumhunt in other games and post in GD. Look at your own iso prior to April 8 and compare it to your posts since then. The level of scumhunting basically fell off a cliff.

My ISO in other games? Or this one? My activity was shot in all my games cause I'm a complete retard and replaced into a ton to help even though I didn't have time for them all. Posting in GD takes a very different time effort than rereading/scumhunting.

Lightsabers, thermal detonators, force pikes, concussion missiles, proton torpedoes, getting eaten by a rancor, ...should I go on? There could easily be oddball kill methods that I couldn't even think of. And, let's suppose for a second that your assumption was right and that the scum could only kill through force powers or blasters. There are many characters in Star Wars who don't use blasters or the Force. If your assumption were true, a massclaim would immediately clear those players. You don't see a problem with that?

If you think I'm scum, why do you think I would not know the scum kill method? There isn't something right with your logic buddy.

[BBmolla]

And why was this game a lower priority than the others you were posting content in, given how close the deadline is?

It was way longer than any of my other games.

What? This is only valid if we assume you wouldn't lie as scum. I just gave you a whole list of plausible kill methods that you asked for BTW, you still want to claim that you didn't consider any of those?

I find them all very implausible as a scum normal kill.

Why is Slandaar flipped, did I miss something?

[BBmolla]

So when you originally suggested "lightsabers" yourself, you thought it was implausible?

Yes.

Have you seen Star Wars?

Unless theme supports it, I find it highly unlikely that Mafia stole all the lightsabers in the galaxy and can use them to kill me.

[BBmolla]

You guys should have blastered Kdub.

What's the scum case on WC, is it just his shitty hop on to a scumread on me?

SD was a serial killer right? Or am I reading that wrong?

Andrius is probably scum.

@Shmugen: Sure sucks that I claimed and got night killed right. owait...

[BBmolla]

Meh. Killed N1 again I knew this would work out badly ;..( Go team, go!

Cool, so he's confirmed not serial killer.

Go no rule against bah posts!

[BBmolla]

Pure OMGUS. You have no reasoning here except that I think you are scum.

Yeah your tunneling is really annoying. Sometimes misguided town can be as bad as scum.(tldr, I got a player who I thought was town lynched because his reads were so off base. He had both scum as obvious town and had me, the doctor, and the cop as scum and was creating huge bogus cases to push his reads.)
And I don't even really think you're all that town, I'd love to see you die.

Cool, non-force related kills. And yet I'm not dead.

[BBmolla]

BB, one more role fish out of you and I'll join Kdub as hard as I can.

How did I role fish. At all.

[BBmolla]

Also, note the kill flavors from last night and how they are clearly non-Force related. Next time someone tries to make a "BB's claim is too valuable to lynch" argument, they get scum points.

I was responding to this.

[BBmolla]

Also, note the kill flavors from last night and how they are clearly non-Force related. Next time someone tries to make a "BB's claim is too valuable to lynch" argument, they get scum points.

I was responding to this.

[BBmolla]

Interesting ability to respond to posts before they happen. Do you figure there are three kills at night then?

Well no shit, two scum teams plus town night kill.

[BBmolla]

Despite my opinion of him, I don't think BB was role fishing. Shmugen's post 846 is the latest in a long line of BB-Shmugen interactions that feels forced and insincere. Didn't you think BB was town yesterday?

This seems really town to me.

[BBmolla]

BB why are you doing... nothing?

I have zero clue as to who scum is.

Gimme a bit, I'll try to ISO.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Nexus

Found one scum. He's playing like he did when I was his buddy. Lurking in the shadows and such.

Andrius is probably scum too. His play this game is very reminiscent of a game I played with him a while ago where he lurked into oblivion as scum. I don't think Andrius does that as town, or am I wrong?

[BBmolla]

that was a quick 7 minute scumhunting session

Yup.

why did I have to prompt you to spend 7 minutes to find scum?

Because I'm a lazy ass. And this game made me all bitchy so now I just have a bitchy tone associated with it.

[BBmolla]

I'll need to devote a full reread of ISOs to WC and Shmugen. I think I did before, which is why I'm reluctant to atm.

What's the scum case on WC, is it just his shitty hop on to a scumread on me?

^This was me reading WC's ISO and not comprehending all the scumreads.

Let Shmugen/WC live for now, let's get one of Nexus/Andrius.

P-Edit: Nexus because you were voting him, and I agree with the scumread for my own reasons. I don't know what yours are, his play here seems very calculated and such like he was in Community Mafia. Andrius I remembered that I had some sort of bad read on him. See here:

Andrius is probably scum.

Their ISOs are also very easy to read due to little postings.

[BBmolla]

BB, did you read any isos and determine that whichever player was town, or did you only read Andy and Nexus and determine that they were scum?

Separate question: Do you have any townreads?

(You need not share them.)

Yeah I have townreads.

I ISO'd some others, but came to nothing really conclusive.

[BBmolla]

lol it looks, BB did a quick ISO on himself to see who he could say was scummy without contradicting himself...

Say what you want, I recalled ISOing WC and I remembered posting about it. In that same post I found out I had come to same conclusion on Andrius.

[BBmolla]

lol it looks, BB did a quick ISO on himself to see who he could say was scummy without contradicting himself...

Say what you want, I recalled ISOing WC and I remembered posting about it. In that same post I found out I had come to same conclusion on Andrius.

After or before Slandaar prompted you?

After.

[BBmolla]

BB saying let Smugen and WC live gives me some bad vibes.

They're my buddies and I don't feel like bussing them.

[BBmolla]

BB saying let Smugen and WC live gives me some bad vibes.

They're my buddies and I don't feel like bussing them.

vote: BBmolla

Policy vote for claiming scum, even in a joking manner.

What if I said they were my mason buddies?

[BBmolla]

BB saying let Smugen and WC live gives me some bad vibes.

They're my buddies and I don't feel like bussing them.

vote: BBmolla

Policy vote for claiming scum, even in a joking manner.

What if I said they were my mason buddies?

You didn't. And you would never use the phrase "bussing" when referring to mason buddies.

What's it called if you try to get your mason buddy lynched in order to distance yourself from them?

Also I'm neither scum nor a mason.

[BBmolla]

Iec finds it hard to take BBMolla seriously re: 3-4 isos in 7 minutes and weird "WHAT IF MASONZ" response to has's vote, but Iec got townvibes from that "BBMolla is bitchy" post.

Has is policy voting me for "claiming scum."

He should policy unvote me for "claiming masons."

It only makes sense.

tldr, I'm trying to be right and it's non-alignment related.

[BBmolla]

Iec has never seen anyone use the term "buss" outside the context of scums. It looks like an ad hoc NUH UH-type explanation rather than a reflection of whatever you were really thinking.

I didn't mean masons. I meant we were scum together.

I'm being an ass hat in response to Cow's policy vote because it's a dumb policy.

[BBmolla]

Aside from the fact that I find it amazing that someone did a full iso of Nexus and Andrius in a matter of minutes as you apparently did, I would like you to explain your Nexus read a bit more. It's pretty convenient that the player you chose to iso and vote just happens to be the vote leader at the time. What is "calculated" about his lurking? Do you think Nexus is strategically lurking, and why that rather than regular lurking?

Here is scum Nexus.

[BBmolla]

I actually need to look up Town-Nexus.

His pushing of me and Slandaar doesn't read as town to me.

[BBmolla]

Go to the link and look up some of the ways he pushed his wagons on players.

It reads very much the same.

[BBmolla]

I have been modkilled for saying something like that before

I think BB will be also

You cant say you are scum without being modkilled because otherwise it conftowns you as scum are not allowed to play against win con which is what it is, therefore anyone who says they are scum even joking has to be modkilled.

I doubt BB will be modkilled.

I wouldn't get your hopes up.

Eheheh

WC why is MoI scum

[BBmolla]

I just think he's town, that's all.

[BBmolla]

Anyone else feel like MoI is buddying me?

[BBmolla]

Also, I would like to point out that your original claimed reason for suspecting Nexus specifically mentioned the fact that he was lurking. Now you're saying it has to do with the way he pushes cases on people. It's not a complete backtrack, but it looks very much like you just quickly grabbed some suspects once more people started to notice your non-contribution and are trying to manufacture a case on them after the fact.

He lurked in that game.

But then whole game did.

So I don't know how relevent that is.

[BBmolla]

Lulz. Really? I’d actually have said the opposite since you were all “MoI I love you” when I was busy fighting off the rather stupid momentum towards your lynch yesterday.

lol

[BBmolla]

Well I just think it's best if we agree to think the other is buddying.

Also, that wasn't really the response I expected, which is a good thing.

[BBmolla]

MoI Shadow wasn't an SK.

[BBmolla]

Meh. Killed N1 again I knew this would work out badly ;..( Go team, go!

^This

Also, I understand the misconception, I thought that originally.

Ooba (General Grievous) feel into a hole night one. He was a scummy scummy person.
Shadow Dancer (Boba Fett) was sliced and diced night one. He was also a scummy (only one scummy) person.

One scum team are "scummy scummy"
The other is "scummy"

[BBmolla]

@BB – a faked Bah post isn’t exactly something unheard of. That said I read the “only once scummy” line as saying he was the only member of his faction AKA a Serial Killer. Time will tell I suppose.

I read it like that at first too. But it makes more sense if it's specifying that there is only one scummy in the title. What would the point of WIFOMing as a Serial Killer be, he loses no matter what MoI.

That's your only comment on the game after I showed your reasoning on Nexus was crap?

I think the better note is that Nexus hasn't had any comment on the game since your last post.

Why are you so opposed to me voting him? Can I not try to explore a venue of a player whose lack of activity I find suspicious?

[BBmolla]

That was probably a townslip by MoI btw.

[BBmolla]

I think the better note is that Nexus hasn't had any comment on the game since your last post.

Why are you so opposed to me voting him? Can I not try to explore a venue of a player whose lack of activity I find suspicious?

Sure, Nexus is lurking, but he's been lurking all game. You, on the other hand, only respond when I attacked you, and it took several people talking about your lack of content before you finally dug up some suspects. Now, you are parking your vote on Nexus when you couldn't even keep straight why you originally suspected him. You are not looking for scum, and your play isn't even what I could see as lazy town play. You are trying to appear active only because people started calling you on it, then you made up some reasons to suspect Nexus. That's like the definition of active lurking.

Do you think he's town

[BBmolla]

Also I see you posting all over the site, BB.

I am posting all over the site. This is just one of few games that annoy me and that I can't stand for too long.

MoI is probably town for townslipping about the SK situation folks.

drmy is prob scum too btw.

I await Nexus's catch up.

[BBmolla]

That's actually not related to my reasoning at all.

[BBmolla]

Cow's probably scum.

[BBmolla]

This MoI wagon blows.

[BBmolla]

...God damnit Nexus stop that. Why can't you just be scummy and hop on like everyone else.

UNVOTE:

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Shmugen

Hopping on the bandwagon.

[BBmolla]

@BB: What did you do last night?

Deflect

[BBmolla]

Why? Did you feel threatened by the town, or did you feel like being useless?

Is it confirmed scum can't use blaster?

[BBmolla]

Why? Did you feel threatened by the town, or did you feel like being useless?

Is it confirmed scum can't use blaster?

No, it isn't confirmed, however it's every townie's vested interest to be useful. You have two ways to be useful; you can scumhunt during the day and see what happens when you force someone to target you at night. Why are you doing neither?

Because people don't listen to me. Like the shitty MoI wagon, that should never have happened.

Also I find redirecting to be rather anti town in general. Redirecting a Track to myself or some shit would blow.

[BBmolla]

Hated = Takes one less to lynch yes?

If we have a Tracker and Watcher then there is most likely a ninja.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:

I'm not really feeling this.

[BBmolla]

Tammy stop being scummy.

[BBmolla]

Tammy.

Seriously.

Stop.

[BBmolla]

Hey everyone! I'm replacing drmyshotgun.

Getting ready to head out of town, so I probably won't have time to read the entire game before deadline. It is tomorrow right? I'll try, but I'm not promising anything - I'll at least try to catch up on day two.

So, on the most likely chance that I can't read everything, could someone please fill me in on what I need to know right now?

I've skimmed the last couple pages and the first page, it looks like it's multifaction? And they cross-killed last night?

I got a basically positive feeling from MoI's recent posts so if the people who are voting for him could give me reasons, that'd be great. Oh wait, I'm one of them...ok so

unvote

Icerint looks like the leading wagon right now. Care to give me a summary? From my skim, I saw fencesitting, buddying, lurking, no scum hunting.

Oh and I saw this mentioned a couple times. How about you

not

blaster shot me...kthnxbai

"Oh a wagon? Well here's a list of scummy stuff I've seen. I'm not gonna join though. Also I've somehow noted these things without reading anything."
"Oh also, don't blaster me, because my survival is super important despite the fact that my death shouldn't matter all that much considering I'm part of the town. Or maybe I'm just claiming super important PR, but I'm intelligent so probably not."

I'm being

scummy

?

BB stop being silly.

"Let me belittle your accusations in an attempt to seem relaxed and make people disregard them."

[BBmolla]

I haven't even read Iec. It's on my to do list.

JK btw, Tammy is probs town. Unless she's figured out her town meta.

[BBmolla]

Seanald needs to die soon.

[BBmolla]

No, I actually thought your posts were scummy.

You redeemed yourself with your "OMG HOW CAN YOU THINK I'M SCUM BB THAT IS SO LUDICROUS THAT YOU ARE SCUM RAR RAR ARRAR RARARRARA"

[BBmolla]

^That wasn't sarcasm btw.

[BBmolla]

I do find it funny that you say I normally have better instincts, I don't think I accurately read anyone in the games I played with you lol

[BBmolla]

Oh hey

I think this contributes to my "MoI is town" theory

[BBmolla]

I don't know what was scummy about that post but I'm not going to get into the semantics of a chicken farm with you either .

Eheheh.

Also my reads are god awful this game.

Mostly due to a lack of reading most of it.

Which is cause I'm an idiot.

The good news is we can read this together now. Well sort of.

How much have you read so far?

[BBmolla]

I believe the hated part btw. He mentioned it ages ago, it'd have to be an insane(and pointless) gambit to not be true.

Don't know if that is relevent to alignment.

4nx and/or Seanald should die tomorrow.

[BBmolla]

MoI, I've had limited success with Amish recently unfortunately. There was a time where it worked like five times in a row, but since then I don't think I've had one successful Amish.

Tammy why do you find it worth noting your predecessor was bad?

In regards to Shmugen, I get the same thing about something bugging me that can't be placed.

In general I wholeheartedly believe we are completely overlooking actual scum and instead focusing on finding scum in the active players, which is bad news bears.

[BBmolla]

Tammy the thing is that it's pretty much verbatim an Amish tell.

[BBmolla]

If there was some reason you didn't want me to spell it out specifically MoI my apologies, I'm not a mind reader.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Iecerint

Let's lynch one of Seanald/4nxiety tomorrow, they're actually scum.

[BBmolla]

Told you. On like 3 of them.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Seanald

[BBmolla]

shotgun wtf is wrong with you?

Where is Magna to defend against all this? it is alot of heat and I would have thought he would say something by now.

And on the another note. I think I am in love with Slandaar your posts in combination with pictures bring tears of joy to my eyes.

I will be reading through the game more to try and catch up and offer some actual substance soon, but for now my posts will most likely be made of questions and be based off of the current posts.

^Post includes NOTHING even remotely close to scumhunting. Is ALL active filler.

Yeah BB, you sound like a joke lol.

Vote: Iecerint

Boom prod dodge lololol everyone shit on my face yeeeaaah...

^Wagon hop on.

These are all of Seanald's posts.

Not to mention that previous him was lurking Andrius.

[BBmolla]

Additionally, why are you announcing unnecessar V/LA's? You are only off site for about 48 hours and activity prods set in after 72 hours. Are you afraid of being accused of lurking?

insinuating someone is scummy for "not following through on their vla" because "they are afraid of looking like a lurker"...? leap in logic to further

cement a mislynch

is what that comment says to me.

I will support a WC, Iece, or Shmugen lynch today. Something about shmugen's hated claim is making me pause about that lynch yet I still prefer it over a MoI lynch.

unvote, vote: wrath

Can we lynch Anxiety please?

VOTE: Anxiety

^This is okay too.

[BBmolla]

For the record, Cow's distrust in me and Shmugen reads as ungenuine and scummy.

[BBmolla]

BBmolla's first post on D3 makes me think he's scum. "Told you so" posts are not something that should come from town. Ever. I feel like jokeclaiming scum is more likely to come from scum, therefore he's a scumread. It's partially a policy lynch, but only because of the policy of wanting to lynch scum.

Cow how do I play as town

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Cow

[BBmolla]

Okay then why do you think I play badly? I mean I do, but if this is your only experience with me, I don't understand what your reasoning is for saying that.

[BBmolla]

I am insightful!

(BB is scum)

Yeah I'm bussing, help me

[BBmolla]

Hascow
Sean

Just add Anxiety to that list.

[BBmolla]

BB you dont think briz is scum?

Haven't really been noticing anything super scummy.

I'll give him a read.

[BBmolla]

Checking in.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: brizingre

[BBmolla]

I'm bussing.

I'm unsure of the composition of my wagon. Brizingre's ISO doesn't seem town.

[BBmolla]

I'm bussing.

I'm unsure of the composition of my wagon. Brizingre's ISO doesn't seem town.

So, that would be a no, you don't have any reason for your change of mind. Prevaricating remarks about "his ISO doesn't seem town" do not constitute a reason.

Unvote; Vote: BBmolla

Also, your "wagon" consists of a grand total of two people besides you.

*shrug*

At least lynching me will move this game along.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Seanald

Join me cow.

[BBmolla]

But I'm Yoda

[BBmolla]

Who am I drawing to me folks.

[BBmolla]

V/LA till Thursday btw

[BBmolla]

Force pulled 4nxiety.

This is probably relevent.

[BBmolla]

@BB - Why Anxiety?

He's scummy.

[BBmolla]

Shmugen any reason you're suddenly assuming I'm town

[BBmolla]

does force pull affect blasters?

It affects force powers.

[BBmolla]

Oh hey.

So looked at my role PM.

I'm just a redirector. Not force related actions.

[BBmolla]

Force pull, active, I choose one player and they are forced to target me.

This isn't new knowledge.

[BBmolla]

I guess "Redirecter-to-self" is a better term.

[BBmolla]

Then what's your theory in regards to my claim.

[BBmolla]

I mean this is pretty easily provable, just have someone who gets results and I can redirect them to me.

[BBmolla]

Shmugen is town more likely to butcher their claim or scum.

[BBmolla]

Oh, I'm a big fan, Nero. Slips are delicious. The usual 'but scum are so careful!' argument should be showing up any post now.

Show me 3 scumslips that were actually slips.

brb getting "scumslips" that were town being derp.

[BBmolla]

^Take huge note of this, my PM only has one name. This is possibly a scumslip.

Check it out, from

this game

from

myself

.

Another example from a town game I was in.

Getting third one sec.

[BBmolla]

Example 3

Your turn

You're also ignoring my post, have a role that gets results back and I can easily prove this you asshat.

[BBmolla]

WOW!!! This is the most active BB has been in days. He's prob a rb and blocked 4nx.

Work just ended and I have no plans for the next few hours. Raging at people in mafia to kill time.

[BBmolla]

Yeah k, I'm a Lawful Good Wizard, with the ability "Hold Person," which makes a player unsuccessful at any Night action they try. AKA, Roleblocker.

I didn't use it cause I didn't want to mess anything up.

Good luck Lawful folks.

15. Skenvoy BBmolla Lawful Evil Wizard was lynched Day 4

I don't like to fake claim as scum.

[BBmolla]

Oh, I'm a big fan, Nero. Slips are delicious. The usual 'but scum are so careful!' argument should be showing up any post now.

^You said this earlier, which I assume would be your argument to my argument that I am more careful as scum. Which I am.

[BBmolla]

BB you see nothing wrong with NC post?

I think BB is scum because he didnt find anything wrong with NC pairing him up with Andy; hence this question.

Pairing BB with Andy means he was pairing him up with ooba. Ooba/BB dont make much sense when you realise BB = Fennin.

I think the lack of paying attention from BB makes him scum. Im pretty sure Town BB would have realised this.

I'm scum for not saying that a pairing of me with someone as scum is ridiculous.

...

[BBmolla]

In addition, it's really not all that ridiculous I love to bus Slandaar.

[BBmolla]

Ignoring cases where people are calling you scum is scummy?

Link to where you've seen this before?

[BBmolla]

I called out Seanald as scum did I not?

[BBmolla]

Doing a bit of risk/reward analysis.

Unvote, Vote: BBMolla

If we lynch Cow and he is town, we no longer have enough blaster shots to do anything.

Again, chums, THE PLAN IS TO BLASTER ME TONIGHT. Do NOT let the scum keep me around to endgame. If I'm still alive tomorrow, I'm driving after Cow with everything I have.

Just making you aware, if you're town, this puts town at 4-1-2 tomorrow(minus the two nightkills which could possibly put us at 2-1-2)

Just saying.

I don't even know anymore.

[BBmolla]

I want to talk with BB

Talk to me.

Briz is more than likely scum exclusively for his claim imo.

[BBmolla]

BB what do you think general scum strat in this game n1 would be

try and shoot town or try nd cross kill

we can assume both teams knew there was another team as it should be pretty easy for them to wokr out

Also can you clarify your claim/full claim again.

Probably shoot town n1, get rid of the other scumteam midgame by scumhunting them and gaining towncred through their lynch. That's what worked in Secret Society Mafia. If it was close to endgame(like 4-3-3) then I'd crosskill.

Anything else? I feel like this is very irrelevent.

[BBmolla]

Yoda
Force pull makes target target me.
Immune force makes force powers not target me.
Deflect stops blasters from hurting me.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: briz

[BBmolla]

Slan which scum team am I on

[BBmolla]

Second is passive.

[BBmolla]

You could just tell me who to target. Regardless of my alignment I'll be forced to do so.

[BBmolla]

Before anyone asks, I no actioned last night.

Will give this game a look in a bit.

[BBmolla]

you no actioned last night and we are missing a kill.....

Yes.

Are you implying that I'm scum claiming that I no killed.

[BBmolla]

Shoot, forgot about BB's force pull. Either way BB or Briz can disrupt what should happen tonight. I need to look back and decide who's scummier.

You could just tell me who to target. Regardless of my alignment I'll be forced to do so.

Then silence.

[BBmolla]

I can't bus both teams.

[BBmolla]

Need to check the rest later, I think BB looks better also... kindof (he does love to bus ) Reserve the rights to revoke this as I wonder about his 'which team am I on junk'

Clearly I'm on both scumteams and bussing both of them because I'm a serial killer usurper on the Mafia teams.

[BBmolla]

I agree with cow.

I'll probably no action again unless otherwise needed.

[BBmolla]

BB: who is scum?

Shit if I know. 4nxiety? My other two reads were right.

[BBmolla]

So know one answered my question yesterday. Where is Vader? I am starting to get afraid that Slandaar is Anakin Skywalker, not only that but young Anakin. Could it be possible that he grew up after a certain amount of days and is now Vader?

And I blastered Shmugen like I was told to.

If this is it, this game is bastard. AKA, I doubt it.

[BBmolla]

Pretty sure Vader was used as an example in previous thread.

Also lucky is scum.

[BBmolla]

You're not scum hunting. You're pretending to by noting the lack of vader.

[BBmolla]

Guys who do I pull.

[BBmolla]

I've been quiet this whole game.

Also Scummer of Love has been keeping me pretty occupied. Just got home, going to dedicate rest of weekend to stop sucking in this game.

[BBmolla]

Hey if we agree to blaster me can I use my ability that stops that shit from hurting me

Or is that no bueno

[BBmolla]

Why aren't we no lynching again?

[BBmolla]

going to dedicate rest of weekend to stop sucking in this game.

K

No excuse here.

[BBmolla]

I'll be back tomorrow.

To do stuff.

Shouldn't we lynch between me and the other stabber?

[BBmolla]

Slan you don't think No Lynching has its benefits in this situation

:/

[BBmolla]

Modslip was lame but I think briz would have been lynched eventually anyway.

I played like shit, gj town.

[BBmolla]

Could we have roles/QTs?