A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

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here, lots of reading

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awe our hedwig died

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ok so off a skim and my gut I will VOTE: mirhawk please claim flavour.

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UNVOTE:
checks out for now

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I'm not liking Cerberus at all.

FoS

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nah let's hammer scum
VOTE: mirhawk claim sounds like a fake claim.

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Actually yeah a good chunk of this is shottys fault too.

I straight sheeped itl here

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Sigh. Pip was probably the absolute worst person to sheep.

Well 210 pages is a lot to read.

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also I'm pretty sure I didn't hammer

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VOTE: Mirhawk

Think that's L-1

This was L-3

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It was a good reaction test though, I feel you were genuine,
UNVOTE:

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also I'm pretty sure I didn't hammer

I know. There's only 5 votes on him total. Shoulda kept up the act longer though shotty.

Nah I got what I want. I had reason to believe he was telling the truth, but that seemed like a good opportunity to test the waters.
VOTE: flubber feels like a good vote after the fake l-1

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uhhh no, his l-1 post come across as sincere, why are you so quick to deffend him?

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if it is sincere it's not a reaction test or a gambit

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also I'm pretty sure I didn't hammer

I know. There's only 5 votes on him total. Shoulda kept up the act longer though shotty.

Nah I got what I want. I had reason to believe he was telling the truth, but that seemed like a good opportunity to test the waters.
VOTE: flubber feels like a good vote after the fake l-1

I have no idea why you're scumreading flubber for doing what you were doing....before you were doing it.....

never said I scum read him. That is the point of putting pressure on them.

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also I'm pretty sure I didn't hammer

I know. There's only 5 votes on him total. Shoulda kept up the act longer though shotty.

Nah I got what I want. I had reason to believe he was telling the truth, but that seemed like a good opportunity to test the waters.
VOTE: flubber feels like a good vote after the fake l-1

I have no idea why you're scumreading flubber for doing what you were doing....before you were doing it.....

never said I scum read him. That is the point of putting pressure on them.

So you're not voting for Flubber because you think he's scum? You're voting him for some ephemeral garbage about wanting pressure on him? Why would you want to put pressure on a slot you don't think is scum? We're not in the RVS phase anymore, man.

the only pressure people you think are scum argument is a bad one. By that logic no one would ever do anything

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I'm starting to think flub vs dwe is t vs t

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I'm starting to think flub vs dwe is t vs t

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Here still, also I can confirm mirhawk isn't lying about what musical thye are from if that helps any

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I'm pretty sure it doesn't really do anything.

We appear to have many tracker/watcher type dealies, I'm betting your role is more of a fruit vendor-esque type of thing in that it can be confirmed by the watchers or trackers.

I haven't seen any indication that there is some kind of use for the flava you can confirm.

Also I'm still curious is anybody found any crumbs by Dave, I find myself wishing I knew if he had any useful results but am unable to find anything.

Well if flavour doesn't matter my role is useless >.<

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For those following at home I still think Mirhawk slipped role hunting he was doing in a scum pt. This actually works perfectly if dwlee is a scum tracker too.

....

Why have you previously expressed a degree of dissatisfaction with my slot and/or the Mirhawk push if you feel that way?

Because those happened before what I'm seeing now

<3 good answer.

this is scummy

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For those following at home I still think Mirhawk slipped role hunting he was doing in a scum pt. This actually works perfectly if dwlee is a scum tracker too.

....

Why have you previously expressed a degree of dissatisfaction with my slot and/or the Mirhawk push if you feel that way?

Because those happened before what I'm seeing now

<3 good answer.

this is scummy

Not really. I asked him why he did/didn't do something, and his explanation makes sense. I already knew the answer, but was checking to see if he was going to try to create a reason when the chronology of events is pretty clearly laid out.

In law I think this is called leading, also confirmation bias? I'm going to meta you now

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Look into what? There's only two possible scenarios, either I'm scum and I made a PT slip or I didn't remember exactly what piper said two weeks ago.

My point is that I don't think you would be able to convince me that the former is more likely than the latter. So what makes you do sure this is the case?

VOTE: mirhawk
the more I think about it the more I am willing to put this to the test. Your argument is, well either I'm scum or I'm bad and lazy. That's not a good enough deffense for me.

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thats l1 btw

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unvote

This feels town for mir. Not liking tgr L-1 anymore

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That isnt what Im talking about. Im talking about them saying that and then not even saying who the scum in the group is.

I don't like giw solid and open you expect or want everyone's reads to be

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That isnt what Im talking about. Im talking about them saying that and then not even saying who the scum in the group is.

I don't like giw solid and open you expect or want everyone's reads to be

ebwip how

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unvote

This feels town for mir. Not liking tgr L-1 anymore

Why the unvote? You've never seen scum be defensive?

Yes, but I've always seen town get scared, L-1 means I may not get the time I need to discern what's what.

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Or if you're tired of waiting, you have the power to speed it along. You are more to us than just cranky grandpa dramonic.

Why is there AtE is so much of what you say?

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Or if you're tired of waiting,

you have the power

to speed it along.

You are more to us

than just cranky grandpa dramonic.

Why is there AtE is so much of what you say?

Did you mean to quote that post?

Yes

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Or if you're tired of waiting,

you have the power

to speed it along.

You are more to us

than just cranky grandpa dramonic.

Why is there AtE is so much of what you say?

Did you mean to quote that post?

Yes

Dramonic said that he was just waiting for everyone to mislynch Mirhawk and move on. I pointed out that this wasn't his only option. How was that AtE?

The second quote was a playful jab, I won't sincerely or seriously call someone a "cranky grandpa".

You are calling him to action by trying to taunt him and saying you aren't using your power and saying that you need him and he matters

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its really not pistach

I think it's town upset over the bull shit

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its really not pistach

I think it's town upset over the bull shit

Do you really think dram cares enough to be upset?

I think he is frustrated he can't care

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VOTE: mirhawk
let's just do this, my read really depend on the flip

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This game needs the Mirhawk flip to move on
Either that or TPP

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Shotty's flavor cop claim needs to be tested legitimately also. The Mirhawk check after he had already claimed doesn't count.

We can do that,

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Shotty's flavor cop claim needs to be tested legitimately also. The Mirhawk check after he had already claimed doesn't count.

We can do that,

People who haven't claimed flavor in this game should point that out so that shotty knows his choices. I've already claimed.

Thank you, this would be great

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I'm not going to commit to one person

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Why, because I'm not your scum buddy?

Lol no, are you really asking a town pr to say what they will do during the day? Do you want to be JK'd or get me rolestopped? You are asking for pages of WIFOM

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ugh I really want to lynch shotty but

ugh

why?

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is tpp getting wagon'd yet?

still waiting on mir to die

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Shotty, I also want to know the effect of mirhawk flip on your reads etc.

not going to happen

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Shotty, I also want to know the effect of mirhawk flip on your reads etc.

not going to happen

Do it
or else

Ya I don't respond to threats or ultimatums if my life's not on the line so....,,,,, no? Ya let's go with no.

Here's the thing bucko, unless it's me or him, only scum has something to gain from knowing who and who I want to go after tomorrow. I find it very odd that you piped up said this. Definitely doesn't feel town.

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The "or else" was a joke btw
The point of the question is the way you went "oh Mirhawk's flip will affect my reads a lot" so I'm interested in knowing how it will. And now you're being all cryptic about it.

It's not cryptic. There no cypher to unlock it. My answer is no.

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no it just creates wifom

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I like how you're trying to engage Shotty.
It's endearing.

ily2 dram!

and as to doll face's first paragraph, I didn't respond because there is nothing to gain from further layers of well poisoning, wifom, or speculation. We need to lynch mirhawk and move the fuck on.

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VOTE: tpp
i wanna be a cool kid.
plus tpps flip will be just as useful

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my religion tells me I must actively preach about tpp's need to be voted off the island.

How do I join the congregation formally.

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VOTE: podoboq
you and flubber look nice together

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Meanwhile I've had a correct read on every lynch so far ^.^

This is meaningless unless you're town. Arguably, it's moderately scummy. ^^

What the fuck are we doing at this point btw? I see the votes creeping back onto fucking TPP. WTF? Is this really happening again?

This is my first time at this rodeo, and I'm liking it.

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VOTE: tpp well if we can get this wagon going, great

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VOTE: podoboq

Also nice opportunism

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you know I can see where this goes
VOTE: dwee

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Because this town is composed of clownfucks and they know that once again, they're gonna dodge the rope in favor of some other sap who doesn't have enough cocksucking inertia to dodge it.

this lynch is your ass
VOTE: tpp

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VOTE: Dwlee

I don't like this vote

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VOTE: tpp
seriously dwee we are going to end up at a no lynch.

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VOTE: dwee I can get back to this

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Like I said yesterday I want to see.pressure put on podo
VOTE: podo

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Mirhawk's interactins with Dwlee are so bad he might actually be town.

And
VOTE: itle
Nice fence sitting and assuming mir will be todays lynch and setting your self up to get town points and told a sos

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There was zero town incentive to unvote TPP after that awful claim. Dwlee was obviously bussing.

So dram are you upset we lynched scum? Are you going to address how wrong you were about dwee? Honestly if dwee flipped town I would be voting you today. We probably have 2 scum left. I'll give you the bus possibility here, but who else is scum to you. I'm still down for a tpp lynch because it would clear a lot up. But take tpp out what wagon are you on?

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vote: TPP

such bus, much wow.

TPP isn't scum because they just killed scum, when they could have easily left an opening to mislynch Mirhawk instead.

Scum slip! There is no other way you know mir would have been a mislynch. Votes please.

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Flub vote pod

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vote: TPP

such bus, much wow.

TPP isn't scum because they just killed scum, when they could have easily left an opening to mislynch Mirhawk instead.

Scum slip! There is no other way you know mir would have been a mislynch. Votes please.

Don't like lynching Mirhawk, because I think TPP makes a solid case, and I was starting to doubt his scuminess.

Mirhawk

- Mirhawk seems pretty genuine to me here, and is reminding me a lot of FS. I also like the basic villager claim, because I'm certain we have some, and he's the first to claim basic, rather than some random power role. So far, the two scum have had weird modifiers. Mirhawk could safely claim that, or anything else that Rob provided as a fake claim, but instead he just says basic. I don't think that's farfetched.

You're an idiot if you believe that's a scumslip rather than "I'm confident that Mirhawk is town."

Confidence and surety is the difference between town and scum

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Fair enough dram, infact you hardly said a think about or to dwee

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Pod you just purposefully misrepresented a definition. Your only defence is flawed semantics? Come on dram if he flips town we will wagon the hell out of tpp tomorrow

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You weren't talking about certainty. Why are you failing to remember what you even said? You said mirhawk would have been a mislynch.

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Pod you just purposefully misrepresented a definition.

Your only defence is flawed semantics?

Come on dram if he flips town we will wagon the hell out of tpp tomorrow

If you read my post, you'd see that it's a ribbing, not a defense*.

You just misrepped my defense, on the other hand....

What defense then? All you said was the word I used wasn't right. Then proceeded to tell ME what I meant to say.

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You weren't talking about certainty. Why are you failing to remember what you even said? You said mirhawk would have been a mislynch.

Mirhawk would have been a mislynch because Mirhawk is town. I'm pretty damn confident in that.

Let's not call an apple an orange here, you're uncomfortable with my level of confidence, and that's a thing that we could discuss, and you could ask me about, but instead of that, you called it a scum slip, which it obviously isn't. I assume you're a smart enough person to realize it's not a scum slip, and now you have me wondering why instead of engaging in a real dialogue about the thing that was bothering you, you choose to disengage, point a finger, and call me scum.

I'm not interested in your back peddling or excuses. Also no it isn't obviously not a scum slip. I, unlike you, don't know everyones alignment. Sorry, you slipped up and now you must die.

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Podo, because marquis' blind cop claim obviously makes him town. There's no significance there when your have an example of horrible scum play if he had made falsely made that claim (unless Rob13s mod meta is such that we have cause to believe he doesn't usually have cops. Did anyone ever check that?).

Anyways, I was just pointing out that your definition was wrong. The best argument for shottys thought that you scum slipped is because the nature of the slip is in the usage of mislynch, rather than lynch. It's a very easy mistake to make, but like I said above...such a stance is in line with your previously expressed opinions on Mirhawk, so it's not as meaningful.

It's only an easy mistake if you are scum. Town never assumes a mislynch.

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VOTE: Mirhawk

Awesome vig shot. I feel way better about this game now.

It's concerning to me that everyone who I am more suspicious of than confident in (podo, itlepip, and cakez) are also on the Mirhawk wagon..I still don't like mirhawk though. This is a terrible quqndary I find myself in..

Most of my town reads are refusing to vote (Marquis, TPP, you). I'm townreading Cakez and dramonic at this point, and they're on opposite wagons.

Basically, same.

Friendless Seniors: The Pied Piper, Flubbernugget, talah, Axelrod, Malakittens, davesaz, podoboq, itlepip, Mirhawk (9)

Actually look at this wagon. Mir hammered it, Axel was in it in a safe spot, another scumread for me (Flubber) lead it.

This might be an opinion difference, but I don't think a counterwagon counts

unless scum are actively trying to push it

. I'm pretty sure flubber wasn't, I don't think Axel was either (though I cant remember entirely), and

I know I wasn't

.

So if it was a counterwagon who was pushing it.

Is this what a scum slip looks like? Usually, I'm not a fan of people yelling "scum slip," but I have to admit this looks kind of egregious to me. Anyone else have thoughts?

The votes on him are easy to get. He's effectively lynched right now. Marquis and I are both willing to vote for him, we just haven't because(in my case at least) I was hoping there would be some decent conversation today.

Luckily for us, the golden goddess Marquis has returned to bring concise and relevant thoughts. Now if we could shut Mirhawk and TPP up, kill dramonic's apathy, and get dwlee to start thinking about non-TPP related stuff, we might be able to use the day.

Friendless Seniors: The Pied Piper, Flubbernugget, talah, Axelrod, Malakittens, davesaz, podoboq, itlepip, Mirhawk (9)

Actually look at this wagon. Mir hammered it, Axel was in it in a safe spot, another scumread for me (Flubber) lead it.

This might be an opinion difference, but I don't think a counterwagon counts

unless scum are actively trying to push it

. I'm pretty sure flubber wasn't, I don't think Axel was either (though I cant remember entirely), and

I know I wasn't

.

So if it was a counterwagon who was pushing it.

Is this what a scum slip looks like? Usually, I'm not a fan of people yelling "scum slip," but I have to admit this looks kind of egregious to me. Anyone else have thoughts?

This can only be a scumslip if flubber is also scum, but I was scumreading flubber anyway. Like, it seems to perfect to be true, but at the same time, it checks out.

Prod dodge / read list:

Def Town:

Marquis

- Pretty self explanatory. I also happen to have experience with her play, and she's playing basically exactly the same way she did last time we were town together. Not lynching.

dramonic

- I didn't want to have to spell this out, but look at the voting pattern. Dramonic voted Axelrod before it was cool, when Axelrod had absolutely no pressure on him, for basically the entire game. Dramonic is town.

pistachion

- duh

Mala

- Marquis has an innocent on her.

Pretty towny:

Cakez

- A lot of gut. A lot of consistency with how he played as town in our previous game. A lot of him having good reads. A lot of players I trust trusting him. I think Cakez is good.

shotty

- Don't like his opinions on the current game state, but I liked TO/Talah a lot. Would like to have him back.

Flubbernugget

- I don't know why, but I like him. I was ready to lynch Tictac, but I like Flubber's claim, and his contributing today has been worthy of keeping him around, as opposed to some other players in the game.

Pretty scummy:

dwlee

- HEY, HOW ABOUT BUILDING A CASE INSTEAD OF SHOUTING INTO THE VOID, which is basically what I'm doing by trying to speak any amount of reason to you.

itlepip

- Kinda just tired of this slot, to be honest. Beeboy was a whole lot of wifom, death tunneling someone who is now confirmed town. Itlepip protected dramonic for absolutely no reason other than "I think he's town, lol," then backed off of voting me when I was adamant about my read, but didn't actually vote for dramonic, or explain why he stopped voting for me. Like, I was 1v1ing dramonic, itlepip picked a side, then just jumped out of the middle of it when I gave him shit for it. Dramonic and I were town v town, and itlepip probably just realized he should leave me alone and let me fight rather than egg anything on, because it was bringing attention to him. But that's just how I'm reading it. If anyone forgets this exchange, and would like me to find the post number where it starts, I'll go digging.

I don't even know what to think any more:

TPP

- If I wanted to read a book, I would have finished Game of Thrones by now.

Cerberus

- All of his votes in the game have been for Mirhawk, which I find really weird. I don't know how to read this slot basically at all. I intend to ISO it at some point.

I trust Marquis:

Mirhawk

- Mirhawk seems pretty genuine to me here, and is reminding me a lot of FS. I also like the basic villager claim, because I'm certain we have some, and he's the first to claim basic, rather than some random power role. So far, the two scum have had weird modifiers. Mirhawk could safely claim that, or anything else that Rob provided as a fake claim, but instead he just says basic. I don't think that's farfetched.


I'm voting Mirhawk because I trust Marquis to read him better than I would, so I'm basically sheeping. If it were up to me, I'd lynch dwlee or itlepip here, or remove TPP and just call it a day.

And why should we assume pod thinks mir is town? It isn't until two recent posts that he even started to consider him for town. Infact quite quickly his read went from scum to "I know he is town"

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dram mentioned the exact same player as a mislynch, except mentioned twice, without logic to back it up, and I haven't seen you discuss this at all, which is weird considering that one of those quote chains INCLUDES you. You didn't think it was a problem when dram was calling Mirhawk's lynch a mislynch, but it's suddenly a problem now?

To clarify, this doesn't make dram scum, for the same reason it doesn't make me scum.


OK, angry responses over. I'm gonna go eat and let you think about your actions, shotty.

Who said I didn't think dram was scum? See there you go assuming and forgetting everyone doesn't know what you do. Also dram said it with much different context and from a place of anger.

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Come on dram if he flips town we will wagon the hell out of tpp tomorrow

But Podo is probably gonna flip scum. Then it'll be the same fucking song and dance AGAIN.

If he flips scum I will still vote tpp.

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Oh ya forgot to switch it back after itles response
VOTE: pod

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But....we're not going to lynch TPP. And since they're not dead yet, it seems unlikely that they're gonna get vigged.

fine dram tomorrow we do my lynch
VOTE: tpp

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I know one way to find out if tpp is scum or not.

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Still the same reasons as before.....
Dram's behavior post-Dwlee flip has driven him up my scum list if it wasn't obvious
Itle's BG claim is believable for now
Shotty is in the Talah slot and hammered Dwlee
Mala/Marquis/Pist are conf town
Dwlee's push makes TPP basically conf town

Not much left over

Want to headline a dram push with me?
VOTE: dram
I haven't liked him for a bit, and his tunnel is concerning, but at the same time he is dram, and due to that I am biased.

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VOTE: dramonic
Whatever, I liked the Axelrod stuff from dram, but he was like that with me and TO at the beginning anyway, so I guess it's null. This business with TPP is frankly unbelievable, and self voting is deserving of a policy lynch in my book.

Caught ya!
Can we please lynch this backpedaling, opportunistic scum?
VOTE: pod

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So tired

vote: Podo

We're getting there dram

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Back, somewhat.

I didn't like the podoboq-dwlee interactions actually, looking back in podo's iso.

then join us

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I think I'm ok lynching Podo and having dram vigged if he town flips?

Works for me, would clear up a lot

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Rude

Take it as a compliment, my experience is your scum game is great

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I know I'm getting into wine territory but something bugs me about having two death-tunnelers on the same scum team

Wine? Where is it?

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TPP: why aren't you continuing your analysis?

Because his first priority is making the person pushing for his lynch look scummy.

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VOTE: podoboq
I think my flip podo, vig dram if town plan is the way to go.

Or you could reverse that. Lynch dram, vig me if dram flips town. Could you talk to me about why you're scum reading me, Cakez.

Of course you would, because then at least someone else dies right?

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I think you're greatly overestimating Dwlee.

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Sc this looks bad buddy. Role cop is fairly useless on either alignment.

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Well I was blocked or they just didn't use it 3 of the nights

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Actually I'm a flavour cop not a role cope. I'm just told the musical you are in. Which is not very useful
#posting while pulled over

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Again flavour cop not role cop

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Well I was blocked or they just didn't use it 3 of the nights

I doubt that TO just forgot to use it. Consider asking Rob for a list of who your targets were? That's information a player should have, I would think.

I got a list of results I'll go back and look when I get to my computer. All I know is mirhawk was the only result RO got that wasn't no result

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I got a list of results I'll go back and look when I get to my computer. All I know is mirhawk was the only result RO got that wasn't no result

Yeah, if you have a list of targets to, that should be helpful. Not only can it confirm that your role was blocked (rather than TO forgetting to use the action,) but it could potentially eliminate players from the pool of potential roleblockers.

Stop looking town in this post.... gah

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Here still, also I can confirm mirhawk isn't lying about what musical thye are from if that helps any

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...did mirhawk claim any flavor?

If I remember correctly, Urinetown.

bingo

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*sigh* okay, 1) did mirhawk claim before shotty chose his targst? 2) did shotty announce mirhawk flavor, before it was claimed?

No I don't think, and no I just said I could say he wasn't lying about him claim's musical

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*sigh* okay, 1) did mirhawk claim before shotty chose his targst? 2) did shotty announce mirhawk flavor, before it was claimed?

Shotty

Shotty's slot has yet to out a player's flavor. He invested pistach n1, got no result, and challenged it, if I remember correctly. I think during N2, he checked Mirhawk, and didn't out the flavor. He just confirmed that it was Urinetown after Mirhawk did. Apparently, the slot has had two no results since. I'm gonna go dig and make sure I have that stuff right. Will provide quotes.

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh no? mirhark was night 4. night 1-3 were no result.

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night 3, then what ever our last night was. I know I got a urinetown result when I replaced in, because I replaced in at night and confirmed I wanted him to be the target. Every other night was no result

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Did talah choose the target before replacing out and the mod asked if you still wanted to target Mirhawk, or did you choose on your own to target Mirhawk?

TO chose it, I just said yes that is fine.

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Please provide a short dissertation on your theory there.

Her votes have been opportunistic but more importantly she's done a lot of the "lol I'm so bad at this game" and it doesn't sit well with me.

Okay thanks.

Can you please specify your Miller role. I have a result on you which says you're not a miller.

p-edit: Are you saying that you don't have a result on pistach for n1?

N1- No Result
N2- No Result
N3- Mir is urinetown
N4- Beloved Prince

[drmyshottyizsik]

I'm guessing axel,

[drmyshottyizsik]

I'm guessing axel,

Is that just a guess? Have you checked your role PM to see if the targets were divulged? Sorry I'm prying. I'm just trying to figure out what we know and what we don't.

Give me 10 minutes and I'll be back in the office and can check my pm's.

unvote podo

Dram let's go with tpp and vig podo if tpp is town.

VOTE: tpp

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when I took over I was told this

Night 1: Investigate pistachi0n; no result.
Night 2: Investigate Axelrod; no result.
Night 3: Investigate Marquis; still pending.

I'm sorry my memory is bad sometimes(not often), I did change my investigation to mirhawk

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@Shotty: Do you remember why you decided to investigate Mirhawk?

Ya I was just looking at my notes here from when I first read the game. He looked to be the wagon that would take off the next do so I wanted to be ready to call bs on a fake claim(to the degree I could). Infact I'm going to go back to my original read through list for scum, I'm thinking dram got in my head(he is good at that)
Scum are Mirhawk and Dram. I actually had TPP and Podo on my town reads, I've been brainwashed by the need to sheep

VOTE: dram

let's vig mir regardless.

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So the consensus is that town is in a good position--we could potentially break the game by picking off people one by one in the lynches since we have 3 (basically) confirmed town.

I would prefer dram today, will hammer podo if he gets to l-1

I need dram gone because I scum read him, but I can' think when he's around.

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Glad to see you've returned to the side of goodness and reason.

@Shotty: Do you remember why you decided to investigate Mirhawk?

let's vig mir regardless.

I think I'm OK with this for the most part, but there are some things I definitely want to figure out before we set up the vig for the night.

First and foremost: If Dram flips scum, and the game doesn't immediately end, we either have five scum or a serial killer. Which of the two is more likely?

at that point, for town, it is all the same

[drmyshottyizsik]

Glad to see you've returned to the side of goodness and reason.

@Shotty: Do you remember why you decided to investigate Mirhawk?

let's vig mir regardless.

I think I'm OK with this for the most part, but there are some things I definitely want to figure out before we set up the vig for the night.

First and foremost: If Dram flips scum, and the game doesn't immediately end, we either have five scum or a serial killer. Which of the two is more likely?

at that point, for town, it is all the same

Not really. There are subtleties. I can think of a few, but I don't want to delve into it just yet.

I meant surely from a numbers and probability stand point. The SK alone would essentially be a final mafia member

[drmyshottyizsik]

Mir why aren't you scum?

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First and foremost: If Dram flips scum, and the game doesn't immediately end, we either have five scum or a serial killer. Which of the two is more likely?

I don't think there's any way to tell. At least not right away.

I'm not asking anyone to claim here, but did I miss a claimed vig or are we just assuming? Because in that case a SK may not be unlikely, again do not claim if you are the vig and already have.

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sounds good to me

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Body guards die instead....

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Shotty should target either Mala or myself tonight.

Why should the BG target you? We have conf town (and basically confirmed), and you aren't one of them.

Nevermind. Forget shotty was the rolecop, not the bg.

FLAVOUR COP

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sorry I got in a car accident last night, hospital post, will be out later today sorry.

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I should be, they are doing x rays and stuff and hve me on drugs

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Sure is, btw stop telling me who to investigate, I'm not setting my self up to be blocked and then called a liar.

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Hope nothing's broken, Shotty. Take care of yourself.

Nah that's my doctors job :p
But thanks! My wife brought me my computer so I'm good now, great wifi here

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I'm not claiming today

gladiate cakes

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If this is real I'm gonna be really fucking bitter.

Ya good lord, I can't believe you all bought the flavor cop thing! Now choose.

Spoiler: wait

Just Kidding I'm still a flavor cop

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Ya I'm good, leaving the hospital in the morning, on a lot of morphine so I'm not doing any modding and not much playing, kinda staygin over in gd

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anything happened yet? no? ok.

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Occam's razor... I don't see how that applies here. I think we have to make fairly equal leaps for everyone here.

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VOTE: podo
ok cool
now if you are town let's vig dram and move the fuck on

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squirm more podo

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[drmyshottyizsik]

It's not going to help that I checked SirCakes, and got J&H. I still say we go after dram, best bus ever?

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He has a weird tunnel on me and I thought he was playing strange. I figured scum would kill one of the unclaimed to try and make me look bad, so I figured I had a better shot checking outside of that.

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I hate to say it but I look bad

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Also I'm paranoid of all the cops running around >.>

One of marquis / shoty is scum and I don't think it's marquis

Why one of us? I'm not disagreeing, but did I miss something? Also I'm a flavor cop, fairly useless to scum.

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what about me

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oh sorry, wow, that's from a long time ago my bad didn't see the quote tags on mobile

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fuck this jumping ship

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still here

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can we just lynch dram

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i still think we choose between dram and podo. I would choose dram.but I'd vote podo today too

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come on dram let me bait itle into giving me a case on a dead man

[drmyshottyizsik]

So someone tell me why their isn't a itle wagon again?

[drmyshottyizsik]

but you didn't know who was dead...

[drmyshottyizsik]

So someone tell me why their isn't a itle wagon again?

Cuz youre not voting with me

It all makes sense now!
VOTE: litlledick

[drmyshottyizsik]

^^ ok that was autocorrect not an insult, but damn that was funny

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VOTE: itle
I won't try to phone type that whole name any more, again not an insult,

[drmyshottyizsik]

ok itle is def scum

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VOTE: flubber
mirhawk dies tomorrow if he sees one.

[drmyshottyizsik]

glad we got off the mir wagon,

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rob

you should run musical games by decade

[drmyshottyizsik]

God no, I'm not doing musicals by decade games. I don't know enough about old musicals to manage that.

The most recent idea I've had is "Minor Annoyance Mafia" or possibly themed as "First World Problem Mafia". All roles involve minorly annoying aspects (usually annoying aspects that you can inflict on others, especially across factions).

Alternatively, I eventually want to do an Always Sunny in Philadelphia Mafia if someone hasn't done one recently.

I WAS GOING TO RUN THAT AS A LARGE THEME SOON!

But go for I'd rather play anyway!

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plot really hurt me. Posted to much before I replaced in, my work truly suffered