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VOTE: azeruitch ant matter train once wrong next top raindrops at cooking kites everybody runs. i like playing scum i also like playing town . i dont like pineapples on my pizza. sorry kid was typing stuff at random didnt have the heart to remove it. also there's my rvsscum cyrus slways kills carls night 1
Cyrus has us as scum together but I'm not sure this guy has the power to rally any votes given his playstyle
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i have never played you but i think as town we should draw the nk it protects the pr so they can help solve stuff for us. but i get what your saying at the same time no pressure to try to focus and you can just have fun.In post 19, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Vanilla Town is the best role because not only do I get to give zero fucks about drawing the nightkill, it's actually good for me to draw it.
StrangeMatter: Why Hockeyfan?scum cyrus slways kills carls night 1
Cyrus has us as scum together but I'm not sure this guy has the power to rally any votes given his playstyle
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what do you mean by partners?In post 86, StrangeMatter wrote:I'm also a bit confused by the Luke and me partners. @HockeyFan, can you explain why do you think Lukewarm would defend me?scum cyrus slways kills carls night 1
Cyrus has us as scum together but I'm not sure this guy has the power to rally any votes given his playstyle
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or at lest say l1 and then tell them to clime.
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pressure works wonders you never know one could slipIn post 138, StrangeMatter wrote:I really need to ask this, but why did you push HockeyFan earlier? Just wondering.
scum cyrus slways kills carls night 1
Cyrus has us as scum together but I'm not sure this guy has the power to rally any votes given his playstyle
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reads on 1st 6 pages when we havent even passed one day in rl no i like pressure and to poke and see will it leads me.In post 141, StrangeMatter wrote:@cyrus62 can you share some reads right now?- cyrus62
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you scared if they start ?In post 158, Lukewarm wrote:
This is way too early for anyone to be claimingIn post 137, cyrus62 wrote:or at lest say l1 and then tell them to clime.
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saids who? we know theirs only two prs so if scum slip and clime something then the real prs will know and bam caught the scum.In post 165, Lukewarm wrote:
Claiming early is bad for us...In post 163, cyrus62 wrote:
you scared if they start ?In post 158, Lukewarm wrote:
This is way too early for anyone to be claimingIn post 137, cyrus62 wrote:or at lest say l1 and then tell them to clime.
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your new so i'll let it slide however people do that on here.In post 166, Pavowski wrote:
Okay, y'all wanted a read? Antagonism is scummy. VOTE: CyrusIn post 163, cyrus62 wrote:
you scared if they start ?In post 158, Lukewarm wrote:
This is way too early for anyone to be claimingIn post 137, cyrus62 wrote:or at lest say l1 and then tell them to clime.
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the real prs wouldnt be outed becuse the real ones wil be the ones watching for fakes. you bring people to l1 and tell them to clime before you hammer if you just hammer you learn nothing. the real one would normaly soft if put to l1 to let the players know its a bad idea to vote them.In post 170, StrangeMatter wrote:
And what if the real PRs are outted, then what?In post 168, cyrus62 wrote:
saids who? we know theirs only two prs so if scum slip and clime something then the real prs will know and bam caught the scum.In post 165, Lukewarm wrote:
Claiming early is bad for us...In post 163, cyrus62 wrote:
you scared if they start ?In post 158, Lukewarm wrote:
This is way too early for anyone to be claimingIn post 137, cyrus62 wrote:or at lest say l1 and then tell them to clime.
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every one will clime vt unless its scum then they aim at pr role but smart scum know this and say vt any way. so yes even if we say clime and the person saids they are pr then chances are they are not.In post 172, Lukewarm wrote:
I think says you?In post 168, cyrus62 wrote:
saids who? we know theirs only two prs so if scum slip and clime something then the real prs will know and bam caught the scum.In post 165, Lukewarm wrote:
Claiming early is bad for us...In post 163, cyrus62 wrote:
you scared if they start ?In post 158, Lukewarm wrote:
This is way too early for anyone to be claimingIn post 137, cyrus62 wrote:or at lest say l1 and then tell them to clime.
If a PR claims a PR role, then the scum team can kill them. If a VT claims VT, then the scum team can avoid killing them, and be more likely to kill a PRIn post 98, cyrus62 wrote:i think as town we should draw the nk it protects the pr so they can help solve stuff for us.- cyrus62
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your learn the truth soon trust me one day your think the same . right now i could just be messing with your head to see what all i can get out of you so far . luckwarms reaction makes me think they are town so i wont vote them.In post 180, Lukewarm wrote:
Why are you arguing that that anyone should be claiming less then 24 hours into Day 1?In post 176, cyrus62 wrote:every one will clime vt unless its scum then they aim at pr role but smart scum know this and say vt any way. so yes even if we say clime and the person saids they are pr then chances are they are not.
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your right 1 town point for you.In post 181, Pavowski wrote:
I do not even begin to comprehend this logic. Basically you're saying everybody will/should claim VT?every one will clime vt unless its scum then they aim at pr role but smart scum know this and say vt any way. so yes even if we say clime and the person saids they are pr then chances are they are not.
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yepIn post 188, Lukewarm wrote:In post 186, cyrus62 wrote:
your learn the truth soon trust me one day your think the same . right now i could just be messing with your head to see what all i can get out of you so far . luckwarms reaction makes me think they are town so i wont vote them.In post 180, Lukewarm wrote:
Why are you arguing that that anyone should be claiming less then 24 hours into Day 1?In post 176, cyrus62 wrote:every one will clime vt unless its scum then they aim at pr role but smart scum know this and say vt any way. so yes even if we say clime and the person saids they are pr then chances are they are not.
What is the benefit?
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crumbs its always good to leave some . somehow if you are pr so you can prove it in day2 or 3In post 177, StrangeMatter wrote:Really didn’t expect these kinds of ideas coming up. We can agree they aren’t really all that helpful. Roles should just be left anonymous until absolutely necessary.- cyrus62
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this is a town post.In post 195, Save The Dragons wrote:crumbs aren't always good to leave because scum hunt for them
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im trying to get more pages some how that way i can see whos . whoIn post 191, Save The Dragons wrote:this is a wacky discussion- cyrus62
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oh are you trying to shad . i think i found some town with that reaction test . makeing it easyer for me to shortIn post 201, HockeyFan wrote:
Okay well its been a pretty fun game, everyone has been chill, and there have been some productive comments/reads which I have been able to make reads of. I didnt think cyrus's "reaction test" was needed and it was a waste of time, but I'm still leaning null on himIn post 200, StrangeMatter wrote:
Opinion of the game so far.In post 199, HockeyFan wrote:
Idk what u mean by "opinion". You asking for my reads or just my general opinion of the game?In post 198, StrangeMatter wrote:@HockeyFan what’s your opinion of the game so far?- cyrus62
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i have to change the way i play. every game other wise people use meta.In post 203, HockeyFan wrote:
No, I'm not trying to shade you, while u may have found some town from that reaction test, most of the posts were NAI. If this is your way of scumreading, then thats fine but It was not smth I do/was expecting.In post 202, cyrus62 wrote:
oh are you trying to shad . i think i found some town with that reaction test . makeing it easyer for me to shortIn post 201, HockeyFan wrote:
Okay well its been a pretty fun game, everyone has been chill, and there have been some productive comments/reads which I have been able to make reads of. I didnt think cyrus's "reaction test" was needed and it was a waste of time, but I'm still leaning null on himIn post 200, StrangeMatter wrote:
Opinion of the game so far.In post 199, HockeyFan wrote:
Idk what u mean by "opinion". You asking for my reads or just my general opinion of the game?In post 198, StrangeMatter wrote:@HockeyFan what’s your opinion of the game so far?- cyrus62
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your new you will get better i used do the same.In post 213, HockeyFan wrote:
I get what you mean by "look over the game with fresh eyes" but I think i have done that somewhat? I said the pair of Luke/Strange probs doesnt exist anymore and even gave town points to Strange and started SR'ing Zyra in the last few posts. Im not sure on my SR on STD anymore as they havent posted alot, but I think their scuminess has gone down a bit. To Re-Iterate, I do not think I am tunneling that bad and have made new reads as the game progressesIn post 210, Lukewarm wrote:
So far I have TR on you early, and then been engaging with you logic. I think that your logic has been.. not great, but I am not really sure if that is from you being scum or just because this is your first game on site. I have mainly been pushing back on it, because I was hoping you would see that the logic was faulty, and look over the game with fresh eyes. But I think that the more I have pushed on it, the more you have tunneled on it which... also not greatIn post 208, HockeyFan wrote:He didnt? I was getting the assumption by him pushing me by pressuring me about the fact that I SR him and Strange. and fwiw, A. I said a bit of and thats not even the main content of my post
My town lean on you is weaker at this point then it was early, but your early stuff really did ping me as town- cyrus62
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omg can be a scum tail.In post 217, HockeyFan wrote:
Okay if that is the case, then I rescind some of my SR on u but i think you still may be possible scum because your only read is that I am scumIn post 216, Zyla wrote:
Nope, just youIn post 214, HockeyFan wrote:
Okay it may not beIn post 211, Zyla wrote:
I don't have any more response to this. My first post about you had enough information that saying it was only based on other people pushing you just seems insincere.In post 208, HockeyFan wrote:Okay Cyrus didnt post. Why does that change that your push was meh and based on other ppl pushing me?Spoiler: sniponly, but it was defintely based somewhat on other peoples reads?(may be wrong on this)- cyrus62
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i and that is why i change everygame not two games are the same. im like a snowflakeIn post 221, Lukewarm wrote:Maybe cyrus's posting style is a bit, but it is a bit that makes it way harder to sort him.
I did a quick look at his other games, and he did not post this way in them.- cyrus62
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they dont post much and it seems they are looking for easy votes trying to get a mis lynchIn post 223, HockeyFan wrote:
I dont like this at all. Pav has made about 1-2 reads and his read on u was pretty genuine and came from a town perspective so what part of their reaction do u think is scum?In post 222, cyrus62 wrote:pav pins me as scum- cyrus62
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cant answer that.In post 228, Lukewarm wrote:
Do you normally change in ways that make you harder to sort in your current game?In post 224, cyrus62 wrote:
i and that is why i change everygame not two games are the same. im like a snowflakeIn post 221, Lukewarm wrote:Maybe cyrus's posting style is a bit, but it is a bit that makes it way harder to sort him.
I did a quick look at his other games, and he did not post this way in them.- cyrus62
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why the white knightingIn post 229, HockeyFan wrote:
What "easy" votes are they going for exactly? They have had 2 total votes. Their vote on Luke was a RVS vote and their vote currently on u is not at all an easy vote IMO and they did give some townie reasoning for their voteIn post 226, cyrus62 wrote:
they dont post much and it seems they are looking for easy votes trying to get a mis lynchIn post 223, HockeyFan wrote:
I dont like this at all. Pav has made about 1-2 reads and his read on u was pretty genuine and came from a town perspective so what part of their reaction do u think is scum?In post 222, cyrus62 wrote:pav pins me as scum- cyrus62
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for are sake i hope not.In post 232, Lukewarm wrote:
Well there is a distinct difference between changing your play style to be harder to meta read, and changing your play style to make it harder to read you in game.In post 230, cyrus62 wrote:
cant answer that.In post 228, Lukewarm wrote:
Do you normally change in ways that make you harder to sort in your current game?In post 224, cyrus62 wrote:
i and that is why i change everygame not two games are the same. im like a snowflakeIn post 221, Lukewarm wrote:Maybe cyrus's posting style is a bit, but it is a bit that makes it way harder to sort him.
I did a quick look at his other games, and he did not post this way in them.
But I will say that your last few posts seem to lean less into you bit, even if I don't know if I agree with the takes.
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tha is the point i dont want to be to town. people who are to town get nk . people who scum think are easy lynches get though to d2.In post 234, Pavowski wrote:
I don't know how the hell to read Cyrus actually, he could be scum just flooding the thread with smoke or a VT trying to draw the NK or get lynchedIn post 223, HockeyFan wrote:
I dont like this at all. Pav has made about 1-2 reads and his read on u was pretty genuine and came from a town perspective so what part of their reaction do u think is scum?In post 222, cyrus62 wrote:pav pins me as scum- cyrus62
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2017 and still towny? you dont play much do you.In post 238, Azeru wrote:
I don't love this question in context. He's insinuating that yeah, he 'could be' messing around just to gauge reactions, but let him get to that point and say it for himself as opposed to handing him the out. To me this feels like the earlier situation quoted below.In post 188, Lukewarm wrote:
So this was a reaction test?In post 186, cyrus62 wrote:
your learn the truth soon trust me one day your think the same . right now i could just be messing with your head to see what all i can get out of you so far . luckwarms reaction makes me think they are town so i wont vote them.In post 180, Lukewarm wrote:
Why are you arguing that that anyone should be claiming less then 24 hours into Day 1?In post 176, cyrus62 wrote:every one will clime vt unless its scum then they aim at pr role but smart scum know this and say vt any way. so yes even if we say clime and the person saids they are pr then chances are they are not.
What is the benefit?
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Please do not answer questions that weren't specifically addressed to you. I don't care about what your answer to the question is;In post 120, StrangeMatter wrote:
Based off your questions for me, and likely the start that I had early on.In post 117, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
Can you restate why Strange is scum?In post 114, HockeyFan wrote: Strange Matter is the scummier one right now but STD is very close to being as scummy Strange rn(although as of right now, the read on STD can change a ton based on their next few posts, unlike the Strange SR from me rn)I do care very much that you spoonfed Hockey an answer before he had a chance to answer it for himself.- cyrus62
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i stated it was a test . just messing with your head to get a reaction in which case luke came off right . pr hunting is anti town if any one was up for it i could have found scum. and so did hockeyIn post 243, Azeru wrote:
By asking someone who's making anti-town statements if their statements were anti-town "as a test", of course they're going to say yes. Without that question it's much harder for them to later go back and say "oh it was a test".In post 241, Azeru wrote:
I emboldened the part at the end that was most pertinent. I quoted the second part to draw the direct comparison between the situations, and show the perspective that Luke asking Cyrus if his bit was a reaction test kinda feels like he was just giving him a free out.In post 239, HockeyFan wrote:You quoted the 2nd part of that to do what ... exactly?- cyrus62
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im adding flavor to the gameIn post 245, Azeru wrote:I do not. You can look at my profile and see this is only my second game on the site in an almost 4 year span.- cyrus62
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go for it if anything my wagon helps me.In post 249, Azeru wrote:I'll reiterate and say I get it. I won't deny the other side of it being 'adding flavor to the game' or 'reaction testing' or whatever it may be. It very well could be just that. Regardless of whether or not it is that, I don't vibe with it at all for reasons stated, and my vote will stay where it is for now.- cyrus62
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I actually want to cycle back to this tbh. What TR did that "reaction test" give you?In post 202, cyrus62 wrote: oh are you trying to shad . i think i found some town with that reaction test . makeing it easyer for me to short
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Can't fully answer this yetIn post 251, Zyla wrote:In post 195, Save The Dragons wrote:crumbs aren't always good to leave because scum hunt for them
they can be helpful but beware
I actually lost my last game because I interpreted a joke as a breadcrumb and made it too obvious that I was PR hunting, so I can definitely see even fake-crumbs as useful when used correctly. Unfortunately, I'm not quite experienced enough to use them correctly, even if that seems like a cop out
Considering that this is a newbie game and you are not a Jester, I see no way that that makes sense. How could being seen as scummy be good for you?In post 250, cyrus62 wrote:
go for it if anything my wagon helps me.In post 249, Azeru wrote:I'll reiterate and say I get it. I won't deny the other side of it being 'adding flavor to the game' or 'reaction testing' or whatever it may be. It very well could be just that. Regardless of whether or not it is that, I don't vibe with it at all for reasons stated, and my vote will stay where it is for now.
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day2In post 255, Zyla wrote:
Because of ongoing games, or are you waiting until day 2?In post 254, cyrus62 wrote:
Can't fully answer this yetIn post 251, Zyla wrote:Considering that this is a newbie game and you are not a Jester, I see no way that that makes sense. How could being seen as scummy be good for you?- cyrus62
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I 2nd thatIn post 256, Pavowski wrote:I nominate that we move on from this discussion with Cyrus about his antics here. His schtick is weird but we all get the point.
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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=80202 here i realy didnt want to do this but here is how i act as scum. you will see a more focus less wild side.- cyrus62
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i cant answer this right now.In post 271, HockeyFan wrote:wild- cyrus62
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i cant answer this right now.In post 271, HockeyFan wrote:In post 270, cyrus62 wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=80202 here i realy didnt want to do this but here is how i act as scum. you will see a more focus less wild side.
?? Idk why you're using this as a way to "defend yourself"/give Pav a way to read u since u said in posts 205 and 224, "I change my meta every game"- cyrus62
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i can give a hint i am pro town.In post 274, Zyla wrote:In post 230, cyrus62 wrote:
cant answer that.In post 228, Lukewarm wrote:Do you normally change in ways that make you harder to sort in your current game?In post 254, cyrus62 wrote:
Can't fully answer this yetIn post 251, Zyla wrote:Considering that this is a newbie game and you are not a Jester, I see no way that that makes sense. How could being seen as scummy be good for you?
Ok so since this seems to be your main answer to questions, how about you just tell us what you can answer?In post 273, cyrus62 wrote:
i cant answer this right now.In post 271, HockeyFan wrote:?? Idk why you're using this as a way to "defend yourself"/give Pav a way to read u since u said in posts 205 and 224, "I change my meta every game"- cyrus62
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the words when used right spell somethingIn post 97, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: azeruitch ant matter train once wrong next top raindrops at cooking kites everybody runs. i like playing scum i also like playing town . i dont like pineapples on my pizza. sorry kid was typing stuff at random didnt have the heart to remove it. also there's my rvs- cyrus62
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the words when used right spell somethingIn post 97, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: azeruitch ant matter train once wrong next top raindrops at cooking kites everybody runs. i like playing scum i also like playing town . i dont like pineapples on my pizza. sorry kid was typing stuff at random didnt have the heart to remove it. also there's my rvs
like i said when you use the words right it spells something.In post 277, HockeyFan wrote:
?? What hint? It seems you are trying to dodge questions by not giving complete answersIn post 275, cyrus62 wrote:
i can give a hint i am pro town.In post 274, Zyla wrote:In post 230, cyrus62 wrote:
cant answer that.In post 228, Lukewarm wrote:Do you normally change in ways that make you harder to sort in your current game?In post 254, cyrus62 wrote:
Can't fully answer this yetIn post 251, Zyla wrote:Considering that this is a newbie game and you are not a Jester, I see no way that that makes sense. How could being seen as scummy be good for you?
Ok so since this seems to be your main answer to questions, how about you just tell us what you can answer?In post 273, cyrus62 wrote:
i cant answer this right now.In post 271, HockeyFan wrote:?? Idk why you're using this as a way to "defend yourself"/give Pav a way to read u since u said in posts 205 and 224, "I change my meta every game"- cyrus62
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yea it does trust me.In post 279, HockeyFan wrote:
iI'm not here to decipher random words and even if I do decipher these words it doesn't make u "pro-town". u have anything else to prove you're being pro town?In post 276, cyrus62 wrote:
the words when used right spell somethingIn post 97, cyrus62 wrote:VOTE: azeruitch ant matter train once wrong next top raindrops at cooking kites everybody runs. i like playing scum i also like playing town . i dont like pineapples on my pizza. sorry kid was typing stuff at random didnt have the heart to remove it. also there's my rvs- cyrus62
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its not breaking any rules but stoping it would be pro townIn post 280, Zyla wrote:Unless the moderator says otherwise, I think we need to stop this conversation (Rule Misc3)- cyrus62
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some people do that here i wanting to see who is more for removing some one like me even if i am town or not then the others . scum want a mislynch . town wont be so quick just in case i might be town.In post 284, Zyla wrote:Alright, since a topic change is in order, this seems like a good time to post my reads
Towny
Azeru - Honestly, 94 felt towny to me, which is mostly a gut read, but they keep up the towniness through the rest of their posts so I'm letting it stand.
Pav - Extremely scumy vibes from 85 (/joke) Honestly I like 102 as a start, and 268 seems like pretty good analysis to me even if I disagree on some points
Null (Town-Lean)
Luke - He isn't playing any differently than our last game, which he was town, and he hasn't done anything scummy, but I don't want to give him too much credit just from meta (as that's my least favorite way of playing), and while his posts have been good for the town, a lot of them read more as a more experienced player trying to make sure everyone understands the dos and don'ts than anythingparticularlytowny.
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Haschel - Haschel seems to be an aggressive player, which can be good or bad, but I need a few more posts before I'll have a good read
Dragons - I gotta say, I donotlike 13. It seems odd to me that an experienced player would even post that, it feels like he's distancing himself from town for some reason. The rest of his iso just doesn't seem to have much substance, no questions asked, no real jumping points for discussions.
Scum Leaning
Strange - Honestly, looking through their Iso, I just see a lot of posts with very little to say. Mostly gut read though
Scum
Hockey - I feel like I've made my case enough here
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why worry about it. right now dont worry what they will do . just try to look at whos trying to seem towny the most.In post 290, StrangeMatter wrote:What do you think Mafia will do in this current situation.- cyrus62
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I'm starting to feel pev is just looking for any reason to vote any one . However strange has been given me where vibs.so this could be early busingIn post 330, Pavowski wrote:I guess I could've figured that out if I scrolled back a little bit. Have I mentioned posting from a phone is suboptimal?
I don't like leaving my vote in limbo so I'm gonna put it on my top scum read for the moment. VOTE: strange
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cant answer till day2In post 335, Zyla wrote:
First, Happy Scumday!In post 334, cyrus62 wrote:im so hoping i dont die tonight.
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what dont tell me you can read code.In post 338, Save The Dragons wrote:christ on a stick- cyrus62
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its not ment for everyone to read its a codeIn post 341, HockeyFan wrote:
sigh, you are actually so hard to read because half of the time, idk what you're saying lolIn post 337, cyrus62 wrote:inch fast that hat earth right east. in soon after dont only count, shoot ant vest every . match empty.
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